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Was haltet ihr davon?
Geschrieben von jahmat - 10.09.2007 09:58
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Es ist ja bekannt, daß unsere Stadt ständig mit finanziellen Engpässen bei der Verwirklichung ihrer Vorhaben zu kämpfen hat.
Das war ja auch bei der Instantsetzung des Freibades so und deshalb um Spenden ihrer Bürger gebeten hatte.
Neulich wurde aber vom Bürgermeister eine kleine Spende zu dem gewesenen Parkfest, mit dem Hintergrund, daß diese
mit einem Spruch (ich glaube der Wortlaut war): "alles für Deutschland, nichts für uns" versehen war, als rechtsradikal
eingestuft und abgelehnt.
Kann sich unsere Stadt wirklich leisten, auch allerkleinste Gaben, egal ob diese von einem Spender kommt der sich
einer politischen Richtung angeschlossen hat, abzulehnen? Spenden von Bürgern anderer pol. Richtungen werden doch
da auch nicht abgelehnt (jedenfalls hat man das noch nie gehört), wenn man sich schon für diese Vorgehensweise
entscheidet, muß man das dann nicht auch für CDU- und SPDtreue Bürger anwenden? Oder ist das vielleicht einfach nur
der Ausdruck von Arroganz oder machen zu müssen, was die entsprechende Parteispitze als Verhaltensregeln vorgibt?
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Re:Was haltet ihr davon?
Geschrieben von Isabel Kerber - 22.09.2007 23:22
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Ich finde es schade das eine Spende eines Bürgers unserer Stadt abgelehnt wurde!
Ich bin der Meinung das die Stadt auf finaziele hilfen angewiesen ist und ja auch wie schon aufgeführt wurde um Spenden
gebettelt! In ganz Hainichen hingen Spendenaufrufe für das Freibad aus auf dem ein fremdes Freibad abgebildet wurde!
Warum sowas? Ich bin Bürger der Stadt Hainichen und soll für unser Stadtbad spenden! Ist es dann zu viel verlangt
gewesen ein Bild unseres Stadtbades auf den Spendenaufruf zu machen!
Das jedoch viele Bürger gespendet hatten ist ja schön aber das dann spenden eines Bürger abgelehnt werder ist nich
akzeptabel! Zumindest meiner Meinung nach! Geld ist Geld und wenn das Geld benötigt wird und einem Guten Zweck
dient dann bin ich der Meinung das Mann spenden soll! Jedoch aber nicht mehr wenn die Spenden zurück gesendet
werden!
Schade für die Stadt Hainichen das solche Gelder nicht dem Allgemeinem Wohl dienen können!
Lieber Gruß Isa
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Geschrieben von Kay Dramert - 28.09.2007 11:49
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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
gemäß mir vorliegender Informationen handelte es sich bei dieser erwähnten Spende (und dem damit verbunden Schreiben)
um den Versuch des NPD Ortsverbandes Hainichen-Striegistal, sich politisch zu profilieren. Beim Lesen des Schreibens
wird deutlich, dass es der NPD nicht um das Wohl der Bevölkerung und der Stadt Hainichen ging, sondern lediglich um
den Versuch politisches Kapital zu schlagen.
Insofern handelt es sich nicht um eine Spende eines besorgten Bürgers, wie der Autor "jahmat" versucht den Eindruck zu
vermitteln.
Für mich als Mensch mit einer demokratischen Überzeugung ist das Verweigern der "Spende" verständlich und ich halte das
für sehr richtig! Auch als Stadtrat bin ich nicht bereit, Geld von einer Partei anzunehmen, die nach eigenen Aussagen
verfassungsfeindlich ist.
Viele Bürger haben für das Bad gespendet. Und viele haben für das Parkfest gespendet. Dafür können wir alle dankbar sein!
Ich bin mir sicher, dass der überwiegende Teil dieser Spender nichts mit der NPD zu tun haben will. Aus dieser Position
heraus wäre die Annahme der "Spende" eine Beleidigung der Menschen, die sich wirklich für ihre Stadt einsetzten wollen.
Eine Spende der verfassungsfeindlichen NPD ist weder dem Allgemeinwohl zuträglich, noch für einen "guten Zweck"
gedacht.
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Liebe Isabel Kerber, ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass du in irgendeiner Weise mit der NPD in Verbindung stehen willst.
Daher solltest du deinen Beitrag noch einmal überdenken.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Kay Dramert
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Geschrieben von Nicole - 30.09.2007 13:37
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Sehr geehrter Herr Dramert,
als ich dies hier gelesen habe war ich geschockt. Ich dachte wir haben in Deutschland eine Meinungsfreiheit. Wie kann
es sein, dass sie sich herausnehmen jemanden, der seine Meinung kund tut, diese zu überdenken. Was ist wenn er das
nicht macht. Wird er da als rechtsradikaler Bezeichnet? Kann ich nicht verstehen.
Die Spende war bestimmt nicht macht worden, um sich politisch zu profilieren. Wäre diese Spende privat erbracht worden,
wäre diese auch angenommen worden. Aber die Spende wurde offiziell gemacht.
Sicherlich war der Brief auch sarkastisch gemeint, aber das hat nichts mit einer Spende zu tun. Für alle die es wissen
wollen, hier der Brief:
“Sehr geehrter Herr Greysinger,
Die Mitglieder unserer Partei nahmen mit Unmut den von Ihnen an die Gastronomen unserer Stadt gerichteten
schriftlichen Spendenaufruf (im Volksmund ach “Bettelbrief” genannt) auf.
In Anbetracht der Tatsache, dass das bevorstehende Parkfest ohne Hainichener gastronomischer Beteiligung (die
Gaststätte im Park mal ausgenommen, die ja ohnehin im Gelände liegt und sicher mit einer saftigen Standgebühr verurteilt
wird) über die Bühne geht, gehört schon eine große Portion Unverfrorenheit dazu, derartige Anliegen noch an den Mann
zubringen. Die hohen Ratsherren brauchen sich nicht zu wundern, wenn sich die Spendenwut in Grenzen hält, wenn
überhaupt was kommt.
Hier zeigt sich wieder einmal die enge Verbundenheit der Stadtverwaltung mit dem “Rest” von Hainichen. Darüber kann
auch der diesjährige freie Eintritt (zum Parkfest) nicht hinwegtäuschen.
Wir als Nationaldemokraten sind der festen Überzeugung, dass es Möglichkeiten gegeben hätte diese Problematik anders zu
lösen. Wir fordern Sie hiermit auf, dazu Stellung zu nehmen und der Bevölkerung der Stadt Hainichen eine Erklärung
abzugeben.
Wir stellen uns auf alle Fälle solidarisch hinter die Betroffenen du hoffen, dass die Bürger unserer Stadt, trotz der
Feierlichkeiten im Stadtpark am kommenden Wochenende, noch Zeit und Muse für einen Gaststättenbesuch finden.
Um die Sache nun zum Schluss zu bringen, übergibt die Ortsgruppe 10,00 Euro der Stadt Hainichen, um die
Spendenausfälle etwas zu lindern.
Alles für Deutschland, nichts für uns!“
Wenn ich den Brief lese, kann ich eigentlich nur schmunzeln. Ich kann nur sagen: Eine jede Partei hat es sich zur
Aufgabe gemacht, sich für Menschen, Ungerechtigkeiten und noch einiges mehr einzusetzen. Dies sollte normalerweise
auch so sein. Man schimpft immer nur über die NPD, aber was ist mit den anderen Parteien. Die denken die können sich
alles erlauben, Steuerhinterziehung, Verschwendung von Steuern, Erhöhungen von Steuern (obwohl sie gar nicht nötig
sind und das nur um Ihre Diäten zu erhöhen oder den normalen Bürger bis auf die Haut auszuziehen). Aber das ist ja nichts,
die dürfen das ja machen, da kann man ja auch nichts sagen. Das ist doch alles richtig so.
Die Leute die gespendet haben, wollten was für Hainichen tun. Fragen sie doch jeden einzelnen welche Meinung er hat
und sie müssten bestimmt die Hälfte der Spenden zurückgeben.
Anstatt sich über solche so was aufzuregen und anderen (mal sarkastisch geschrieben) den Mund verbieten, sollten sie
sich lieber um die wichtigen Sachen kümmern. Neue Arbeitsplätze schaffen, Firmen anwerben, Geschäfte nach Hainichen
bringen, damit man nicht immer eine Weltreise unternehmen muss, wenn man was brauch.
Ich weiß, dass ich jetzt in Ihren Augen rechtsradikal bin, auch schon weil ich den Brief habe. Denn jeder der seine
Meinung äußert die solchen wie Ihnen nicht gefällt ist das ja nun mal so.
Macht mir auch nichts aus, muss da nur noch lachen drüber, aber genau das ist es was viele Leute dann zur NPD oder
anderen solchen Vereinen treibt.
Nicole
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Geschrieben von Kay Dramert - 01.10.2007 18:08
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Werte Nicole,
wenn Sie meinen Eintrag eingehend lesen, dürften Sie feststellen, dass ich niemanden als "rechtsradikal" bezeichnet
habe.
Die Spende der verfassungsfeindlichen NPD war meiner Meinung nach nur aus politischen Gründen eingereicht worden.
Wie sonst erklärt sich denn das Tamtam, dass seitens der NPD darum gemacht wurde?
"Sicherlich war der Brief auch sarkastisch gemeint, aber das hat nichts mit einer Spende zu tun." Interessante Aussage.
Es geht hier doch um eine Spende. Und es lag doch Geld bei, oder täusche ich mich da?
Ich kann nur sagen: Eine jede Partei hat es sich zur Aufgabe gemacht, sich für Menschen, Ungerechtigkeiten und noch
einiges mehr einzusetzen. Sehr richtig. Die NPD setzt sich nicht nur für Ungerechtigkeiten ein, sondernauch für
verfassungsfeindliche Ziele. Ich darf aus dem NPD-Programm zitieren: Deutschland ist größer als die
Bundesrepublik!weiterhin heißt es: Wir fordern die Revision der nach dem Krieg abgeschlossenen
Grenzanerkennungsverträge.(Parteiprogramm der NPD, Punkt 10)
Nun denn. Diese Forderungen dienen natürlich nur dem Wohl der Menschen.
Zum Thema andere Parteien: Nicole, bezüglich Steuerhinterziehung möchte ich auf einen Artikel u.a. des "Tagesspiegel"
hinweisen. Demnach soll die NPD Gelder zurückzahlen, die unrechtmäßig erschlichen wurden.
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/div/;art771,2036391
Weiterhin halte ich fest, dass ich niemandem den Mund verbiete. Mein Beitrag war eine Klarstellung um nicht ein
falsches Bild entstehen zu lassen. Damit war der Hinweis verbunden, dass Isabel Kerber ihre Aussage überdenkt. Habe
ich damit jemandem das Wort oder den Mund verboten? Ihre Aussage diesbezüglich war weder sarkastisch noch ironisch,
sie war völlig fehl am Platz.
Ich bin ein Verfechter der freien Meinungsäußerung. Denn das weder in 40 Jahren DDR möglich, noch in den Jahren der
Nazizeit zuvor. Aber Äußerungen, Handlungen und Meinungen werde ich immer dann verurteilen und mißbilligen, wenn sie
verfassungsfeindlich sind und gegen Gesetze verstoßen, die von den demokratischen Entscheidungsinstanzen
beschlossen worden sind.
In diesem Sinne verbleibe ich mit meiner demokratischen Überzeugung.
Hochachtungsvoll
Kay Dramert
Beitrag geändert von: Robert.Frisch, am: 2007/10/30 09:40
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Sehr geehrter Herr Dramert,
ich habe Ihren Eintrag richtig gelesen. Anscheinend wissen sie selbst nicht was sie geschrieben haben.
1. Ich zittiere: „Liebe Isabel Kerber, ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass du in irgendeiner Weise mit der NPD in Verbindung
stehen willst. Daher solltest du deinen Beitrag noch einmal überdenken.“
Nun für mich und bestimmt einige andere heißt das. Wenn sie ihre Meinung überdenkt ist alles OK. Aber wenn sie das nicht
tut, steht sie laut Ihrer Aussage mit der NPD in Verbindung und die NPD ist rechtsradikal und somit Frau Kerber auch.
Soviel erst mal dazu.
2. Wegen der Spende macht nicht die NPD ein Tamtam sondern der Kopf in Hainichen zu dem auch sie zählen. Tatsache
ist doch, wäre die Spende angenommen worden, wäre nicht einmal darüber geredet worden, aber so hat sich der Kopf von
Hainichen das selbst zu zuschreiben und ich denke das wissen Sie auch.
3. Sie regen sich hier auf das die NPD verfassungsfeindliche Ziele verfolgt. Ich weiß, dass ich mich mit dieser Äußerung jetzt
weit in die Nesseln setzte.
Ist es nicht so von Seitens unserer Regierung Gesetze verabschiedet haben und auch bestimmt noch werden, die
verfassungswidrig sind, wie z.B. unser Hartz IV, falls Sie das noch nicht wussten, dann lesen sie sich das mal durch
http://www.gegenhartz.de/nachrichtenueberhartziv/0344e199970cb3301.php. Dient das etwa auch nur dem Wohl des
Volkes, nein es dient nur denen die sich an uns bereichern.
4. Noch was zum Schluss, wir hatten in der DDR und auch in der Nazizeit so wie auch heute eine Meinungsfreiheit. Aber
man durfte diese nur äußern, wenn sie für den Staat war. Wenn sie gegen ihn war, wurde dies verfolgt und bestraft. Anders
ist es heute nicht, sondern genau so. Denn das hat man in Ihrer Aussage gegenüber Frau Kerber gemerkt und das hat
nichts mit demokratisch zu tun.
Wer mehr über Ungerechtigkeiten, Lug und Betrug lesen möchte, sollte sich mal auf www.wissenswertes.oyla12.de
umschauen. Ich hoffe, dass dieser Link nicht entfernt wird, denn die Seite ist sehr lesenswert.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Nicole
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Ich hab noch was vergessen, die Regierung versucht schon seit längerer Zeit die NPD zu verbieten. Wenn sie so
verfassungfeindlich ist dürfte es ja auch kein Problem darstellen dies zu tun. Warum geht das dann nicht. Aber wäre das
der Fall, wäre es nur eine Gleichschaltung der Partein, was nichts mit einer Demokratie zu tun hat. Dies hatten wir ja
schon einmal.
Gruß Nicole:)
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Geschrieben von Rene - 02.10.2007 19:30
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Hallo Nicole,ich habe mit großen Interresse die Beiträge hier gelesen.Endlich mal jemand, der sich traut es offen
auszusprechen.Ich bin mit dir einer Meinung zwecks Meinungsfreiheit.Für mich bedeutet Meinungsfreiheit,dass man die
Meinung anderer akzeptiert,auch wenn man diese Meinung nicht teilt.Zum Thema NPD habe ich folgendes zu sagen.
Es gibt in jeder Partei solche und solche.
Man kann nicht alle für das vergehen eines einzelnen oder einer Gruppe verantwortlich machen,was natürlich für viele der
einfachere Weg ist .
Dies ist nichts anderes wie Sippenhaftung,wie wir es schon in der Zeit von 1933-1945,und 1949-1989 hatten.
Übrigens funktionieren die Links bei Deinen Kommentar nicht,vielleicht kannst Du diese hier im Forum nochmal reinsetzen.
„Demokratie ist die Regierung des Volkes durch das Volk für das Volk.“
Abraham Lincoln
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Hallo an alle,
ich habe nicht geglaubt, daß meine einfache Frage solch einen Wirbel auslöst, aber es ist schon unglaublich, wenn Herr
Dramert jemanden auffordert, seine Meinung zu überdenken, das ist schon ganz schön arrogant. Seine Meinung soll auch
seine eigene Einstellung bleiben und wenn jemand anders darüber denkt, dann ist dies demjenigen sein gutes Recht und
nicht alles was jemand sagt/schreibt muß auch richtig sein.
Übrigens, egal wie man zur NPD steht, vielleicht ist ja schon mal jemanden aufgefallen, daß auch diese Partei demokratisch
vom Volk in den Landtag Dresdens gewählt wurde und wenn die arrogante Haltung der großen Parteien so weitergeht,
werden das wohl noch mehr werden die sich überlegen werden wo sie ihr Kräutzchen mal hinmachen werden, nur weil man
stolzer Verfechter der Parolen der SPD ist, muß man eine anders gesinnte Partei noch lange nicht angreifen und
niedermachen, ganz gleich was auch mal im deutschen Reich schlimmes passiert war. Da gibt es noch mehr Parteien,
die nicht gerade schuldlos an dem Elend eines Volkes waren, denkt mal drüber nach ;-)
Außerdem ist es sehr schön endlich mal den gesamten Wortlaut des Briefes lesen zu können, danke an Nicole, wobei der
letzte Satz ja nur im Gellertstadt Bote herausgegriffen wurde, aber eigentlich die hohen Herren mal zum Überdenken ihrer
eigenen Politik anregen müßte, aber außer superschlaue Kommentare loslassen und beleidigt tun, ist da wohl nichts.
Dem Geldschein sieht man ja wohl letztendlich nicht an, wie sein Spender politisch arrangiert ist und Politik hin oder her,
unsere Stadt brauch jeden Pfennig und kann es sich nicht leisten wegen so etwas hier so einen "Willi" zu machen, es ist
wirklich ein unglaublich und kleinliches Verhalten der Entscheidungsträger....
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Hallo jahmat,
mach dir keine Gedanken, dass das von Dir geschriebene so einen Aufriss gemacht hat. Ich hätte bestimmt nichts gesagt,
wenn Herr Dramert nichts von Meinung überdenken geschrieben hätte.
Früher hätte ich meinen Mund gehalten, aber in der heutigen Zeit ist es wichtig zu sagen was man denkt, denn nur so kann
man vielleicht was ändern. Und wenn man merkt, das denjenigen die Argumente ausgehen ist das gut. Denn das zeigt
uns doch wieder einmal, dass diese sich nicht mit uns auseinandersetzen können oder wollen.:cheer:
Hier ist noch mal die Adresse zu der HP ich hoffe das er diesmal funktioniert.
http://wissenswertes.oyla12.de/cgi-bin/hpm_homepage.cgi
Hab ihn gerade getestet funktionierte, hoffe auch nachdem er hier gespeichert worde. Da findet man auch den Link zum
Hartz IV.
Ich Grüße alle ganz lieb
Nicole;)
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Geschrieben von Isabel Kerber - 13.10.2007 18:26
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Hallo an alle,
um alle zu beruhigen ich werde meinupng nicht ändern und auch nicht überdenken! Ich finde es Schade das man jetzt auf
diese weise versucht seine wähler zu halten und Fehler damit zu entschuldigen das andere nur eine falsche Meinung
haben!
Als nächstets noch ein paar Worte an Herr Dramert!
Herr Dramert ich zeige Ihnen hiermit einmal das ich nicht damit einverstanden bin das Sie mich mit Du ansprechen!
Meines Wissens nach kennen wir uns privat nicht und weder Sie haben mir das Du angeboten noch ich Ihnen! Das z.B
gehört zu den einfachen Benimmregeln unserer Zeit!
Vielleicht sollten Sie mal diese Regeln überdenken und sich an diese halten! Oder ist das in Ihrer demokratischen
Überzeugen nicht der Fall das Sie diese Regeln einhalten!
Ich in meimer Überzeugung habe dies aber von Kindheit an gelernt und werde es auch dabei behalten!
Noch ein paar Worte an jahmat:
eine einfache Frage ist manchmal die wichtigste und beste Frage die man stellen kann! Und diese Frage oder
anoregung war berechtigt und ich freue mich das einige auf deine Frage geantwortet haben! Und sollche Fragen können
ruhig öfters gestellt werden da wir nicht immer nur den Mund halten können! Schweigen ist zwar manchmal Gold aber das
war es nur in der DDR in der BRD muss der Mund geöffnet werden damit das Volk gehört wird!
somit verbleibe ich und freue mich auf hoffentlich viele weitere Antworten!
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Geschrieben von Romy - 22.10.2007 15:28
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Hallo Nicole, Rene, Isabel und jahmat... BRAVO, endlich mal jemand, der seine Meinung offen sagt und sich nicht
einschüchtern lässt! Im übrigen kann ich mich euch nur anschließen...
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Kay Dramert schrieb:
Insofern handelt es sich nicht um eine Spende eines besorgten Bürgers, wie der Autor "jahmat" versucht den Eindruck zu
vermitteln.
Liebe Isabel Kerber, ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass du in irgendeiner Weise mit der NPD in Verbindung stehen willst.
Daher solltest du deinen Beitrag noch einmal überdenken.
Kay Dramert
Werter Herr Dramert,
ich kann es mir nicht verkneifen, Sie heute und hiermit aufzufordern, Ihre unqualifizierten Äußerungen und Unterstellungen
mit sofortiger Wirkung zu unterlassen!
Weder habe ich als Autor von diesem Thread versucht "einen Eindruck zu vermitteln" sondern ganz einfach ein Thema
zur Disskussion gestellt, noch steht es Ihnen auch nur im geringsten zu, Frau Isabel Kerber aufzufordern, ihren "Beitrag
noch einmal zu überdenken". Wir sind hier in keiner Weise gewillt, uns politisch von Ihnen agitieren zu lassen, also
unterlassen Sie Ihre Methoden, hier Stimmung zu machen.
Wenn Sie nicht in der Lage sind, Texte richtig zu interpretieren, sollten Sie sich lieber zurück halten. Wahrscheinlich
haben Sie noch immer nicht dazu gelernt, als Beiträge von Ihnen im Hainichener Gästebuch im Nachhinein, auf Proteste
von vereinzelten Bürgern hin, wegen Verstoß gegen die Forum/Gästebuchregeln und ebenfalls dem Versuch politischen
Einfluß auszuüben,von den Admins editiert und auch aufgeführte Links zu Ihrer privaten Homepage aus diesem Grund
gestrichen wurden.
Dieses Forum wurde auf Anregung von einzelnen Bürgern hin, unter anderem auch mir gefordert, damit eben gewisse
Themen, gute und nicht so gute Fragen und Probleme hier disskutiert werden können und von den beiden jungen Leuten
(Admins) in ihrer Freizeit uns Bürgern dafür zu Verfügung gestellt, da die Offiziellen unserer Stadt das ja nicht umsetzen
konnten (vorsichtig und zurückhaltend ausgedrückt). Übrigens deswegen und hier auch noch einmal ein Dankeschön an Herrn
R. Frisch und M. Schmalfuß.
Wer hier seine Meinung äußert und das kann und sollte schließlich jeder und auch noch viel mehr, sollte immer daran
denken, höflich und bestimmt zu bleiben, ohne andere dabei nach Möglichkeit zu diskriminieren oder zu beleidigen! Wir
leben hier ja angeblich in einer Demokratie, und da ist eine freie Meinungsäußerung, Herr Dramert, die Vorraussetzung
dafür. Es kann einen schon mal etwas falsches heraus rutschen, aber wir können schon unterscheiden ob un- oder gewollt,
dann gibt es auch die Möglichkeit sich dafür dann doch mal zu entschuldigen, wenn es keine Absicht war und mal "über
seinen Schatten zu springen."
Deswegen verwundert es mich auch, wenn Sie in Ihren Beiträgen einmal die Höflichkeitsform und anderer Seits das Du
verwenden. In einem Forum ist meines Wissens eigentlich die Du - Form üblich, aber da Sie die Allgemeinheit ja mit Sie
anreden wollen, werde auch ich und auch nur bei Ihnen, aus Höflichkeit, diese Form verwenden, darum auch sicherlich
das Unverständnis von Frau Isabel Kerber über das plötzliche Duzen, also man muß sich schon mal für eins entscheiden
können.
@Romy
Klar sagen wir unsere Meinung und wir lassen uns von miemanden ins Boxhorn jagen oder einschüchtern, wäre ja noch
schöner und wenn es gewisse Leute absolut besser wissen und nicht kapieren wollen, dann kann ja jeder auch noch zu
Rechtsmitteln greifen, das sollte zwar immer das Letzte bleiben, aber ich scheue mich auch davor nicht, um gewisse
Leute in ihre Grenzen zu weisen, die meinen müssen, besser zu sein wie der Rest der Gesellschaft. Wahrscheinlich
lassen wir uns doch zu viel gefallen und müßten dann noch eher diesen Schritt gehen, wir sind auch nicht schlechter als die
Herrn, die in der Politik zu tun haben und denken, wir müssen die Klappe halten, nix da!
tschüß an alle und sagt Eure Meinung!
-jahmat*PS übrigens, als kleiner Tip, es ist nicht unbedingt üblich, in Foren seinen Real Namen zu verwenden ;-)
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Geschrieben von TG besorgte Ex-Einwohnerin - 19.01.2008 13:17
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Ich glaube es einfach nicht!
Wie blind, taub, schwer von Begriff kann man sein?
Auch schöne Floskeln "ich verbleibe", "hochachtungsvoll" etc. können Dummheit nicht verbergen.
Fazit: Mehr Bildung braucht das Land, v.a. die Stadt!
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