Ss axali ministri midis

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oTxSabaTi, 18-24 dekemberi 2013 #16 (016), fasi 2 lari
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Ss axali ministri midis
WikaiZe midis,
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rom RaribaSvils
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ratom dasTanxmda vano
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igives imeorebs?
_ jerjerobiT, dadasturebulad ar SemiZlia
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mizani marTlac
CamoTvlili faqtebi
iyos?
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gancxadebam
politikur
WrilSi ar gadaiyvanos wminda samarTlebrivi sakiTxebi,
aucilebelia,
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aRniSnuli faqti Seiswavlos
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_ uSiSroebis sabWos
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merabiSvilisa da kaxeTis
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zurab WiaberaSvilis
saqme prokuraturas unda
CamoerTvas da
parlamentis sagamoZiebo
komisias gadaeces
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samarTliania bokerias
moTxovna?
da RaribaSvili
didxans apirebs
xelisuflebaSi yofnas,
me cixidan ver gaval~, _
ganacxada merabiSvilma
quTaisSi gamarTul
sasamarTlo procesze.
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uwodebs, romlis mizani sazogadoebis SecdomaSi Seyvanaa. realurad ra mizans
SeiZleba emsaxurebodes yofili premieris gancxadeba,
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àrCevnebisa da politikuri
teqnologiebis kvlevis centris xelmZRvaneli~ kaxa
kaxiSvili esaubra.
_ batono kaxa, wina
xelisuflebas swored
formacia miawodos, vano
merabiSvilis gancxadebis
namdvilobis, an ararealobis
Sesaxeb. bunebrivia, Tu aRniSnuli faqti sasjelaRsrulebis erT-erT dawesebulebaSi moxda, im uwyebaSi,
romelic
aRWurvilia
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subaris uwyebas SeuZlia, moipovos yvela is masala,
romelic daamtkicebs, an
uaryofs yofili premierministris gancxadebaSi moyvanil faqtebs.
_ `nacionaluri
moZraoba~ gamoZiebis
dasrulebamde mTavari
prokurorisa da
sasjelaRsrulebis
ministris
uflebamosilebis
SeCerebas moiTxovs.
adekvaturia maTi
trebsa da prokurorebs
uflebamosileba ar unda
SeuwydeT. SeiZleba xval, an
zeg kidev gakeTdes msgavsi
tipis gancxadebebi, maSin mTeli mTavroba paralizebuli
gveyoleba da ase win ver
wavalT. Tumca mimaCnia, rom
sasjelaRsrulebis saministrom, yovelgvari winapirobis gareSe, mokle vadaSi, sazogadoebas unda miawodos
konkretuli informacia
vano merabiSvilis gancxadebaSi moyvanil faqtebTan
dakavSirebiT.
_ prokuratura
merabiSvilis gancxadebas
srul absurds uwodebs,
romlis mizanic
sazogadoebis SecdomaSi
Seyvanaa. amasTanave,
prokuratura
merabiSvilis gancxadebas
yofili premieris zurab
Jvanias saqmis gamoZiebis
gaaqtiurebasac ukavSirebs.
SesaZloa, merabiSvilis
_ vfiqrob, es Zalian
araseriozuli moTxovnaa.
Tavad giga bokeriamac kargad icis, rom parlamentis
sagamoZiebo komisia is organo ar aris, romelsac xelewifeba saproceso gamoZiebis
Catareba da adamianebisTvis
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saqmeze parlamentis sagamoZiebo komisiam daiwyos sakiTxebis Seswavla.
_ SesaZloa, vano
merabiSvilis gancxadeba
xelisuflebis
diskreditacias isaxavdes
miznad?
_ kargad vicnobT `nacionaluri moZraobis~ qmedebebs,
amitom gamoricxuli ar aris,
rom `nacmoZraobas~ amgvari
gancxadebiT dasWirda diskreditacia prokuraturis,
axali xelisuflebis samarTaldamcavi sistemis, radgan
moipovos saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis yuradReba vano
merabiSvilis procesTan
dakavSirebiT. Tundac igive
zurab Jvanias saqmis gaxsnas
safuZvelSive Cauyaron undobloba. gamakvirva vano
merabiSvilis gadawyvetilebam advokatebze uaris TqmasTan dakavSirebiT. SesaZlebelia am gadawyvetilebiT Cafiqrebulia, rom merabiSvili
dasTanxmdes saxazino wesiT
advokatis ayvanas da saboloo ganaCeni dahbraldes
imas, rom prokuratura da
saxazino wesiT daniSnuli
advokati SeTanxmebulad moqmedebdnen, ris gamoc, merabiSvils gamamtyunebeli gan-
aCeni gamoutanes. anu advokatma mas Segnebulad daaklo
argumentebi, raTa gamamtyunebeli ganaCeni damdgariyo.
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#16 (016)
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iaraRis didi wmenda
lizaciis parolia im SemTxvevaSic ki, Tu erT-erT mxares
regionis antikorufciul
liderad moaqvs Tavi. mogaqvs
1,5 miliardi dolari yovelwliurad! anu, mTlianobaSi, 45 miliardi dolari mainc.
zogierTebi 6-7 miliard
dolarsac asaxeleben. es
fuli rom ekonomikis ganviTarebas, Sida investiciebs,
samuSao adgilebis Seqmnasa da
infrastruqturas moxmareboda, dRes saqarTvelo saSualo aRmosavleT evropuli
donis qveyana iqneboda yvela
TvalsazrisiT.
isic ar aris SemTxveviTi,
rom uklebliv yvela Cinosani,
visac am bnel saqmesTan dakavSirebiT apatimrebdnen da apatimreben, Rrma pativiscemas
gamoxatavs ministris (ministrebis) mimarT, maT winaaRmdeg Cvenebis micemaze uars
ambobs da keTilSobili raindis rolSi gvevlineba,
romelmac adamiani crud ar
daasmina. sinamdvileSi, es
Zalian Wkvianuri taqtikaa,
riTac sakiTxis politizeba
xdeba. anu, raime kerZo daintereseba ki ar yofila
ukrainuli jarTis Sesyidvisas, aramed politikuri
strategia iyo aseTi.
bolo dros, irakli ala-
da mogqondes _ maSin SenTan
saqmes ubralod ar daiWeren,
raki saeWvod moeCvenebi.
yvelaze saintereso mainc
isaa, ramdeni daixarja 2004
wlidan 2008 wlamde (swored
am periodSi) samxedro jarTis Sesyidvaze, romlis
udidesi nawili karaleTis
tyeebsa da cxinvalis sanaxebSi darCa. zogierTi cnobiT,
saniam ramdenjerme ganacxada,
rom amieridan armia ufro
TavdacviTi SeiaraRebiT aRiWurveba, xolo Tanamedrove
sistemebs dasavlur qveynebSi SeiZenen im fuliT, rac sabWouri warmoebis tankebis
gayidviT amoigeba. `gavyidoT
afrikaSi da viyidoT belgiaSi~ _ rogorc Cans, es xdeba
saxelmZRvanelo devizi.
Tu daviviwyebT, rom
traibalisturi
omebis
monawile afrikelTa garda,
naxevarsaukunovan ukrainul
tankebs aravin iyidis, mainc
unda gvixarodes, raki, jer
erTi, evropaSi sityva òtkatis~ mniSvneloba bevrad naklebma Cinosanma icis (iq yvelaferi, rac samxedro Sesyidvebs ukavSirdeba, gamadidebeli SuSis qveSaa) da,
rogorc iqna, gveRirsa xelisufleba, romelic SedarebiT adekvaturad afasebs
qveynisa da misi armiis SesaZleblobebs.
gela kalandaZe
T
avdacvis
saministros
Sesyidvebis
departamentis
yofili
ufrosis,
aleko ninuas
dapatimreba
moulodneli
aravisTvis yofila. maT
Soris, rogorc Cans,
arc TviT ninuasTvis,
Tu misi gancxadebebiTa
da winaswari PR-aqciebiT
vimsjelebT. araTu
moulodneli, aramed
gasakviri is ufro
iqneboda, prokuraturas
kiTxvebi ar gasCenoda
im uwyebis saqmianobasTan
dakavSirebiT, romelic
wlebis ganmavlobaSi
yidulobda iaraRs
qarTuli armiisTvis.
TiTqos sul sxva sakiTxia,
rom im iaraRis didi nawili,
rac mosaxleobisgan (maT
Soris sacodavi `wvrili
movaWreebisgan~) biujetis
sasargeblod axeuli fuliT
`viyideT~, 2008 wlis agvistoSi rusebma da osebma waiRes
xiTxiTiT. es garemoeba
nagulisxmev kiTxvebs mxolod
aZlierebs da arsebiTad
bevrs arafers cvlis iuridiuli TvalsazrisiT, Tumca
politikurad uamravi ram
marTlac gasarkvevia: ra idiotizmi iyo tankebisa da sxva
SeteviTi iaraRis mTebis SeZena maSin, rodesac ruseTi
emzadeboda saqarTvelos
winaaRmdeg agresiisTvis?
axla gvimtkiceben, rom icodnen: swored ruseTi emzadeboda. da Tu asea, maSin gana TavdacviTi iaraRis SeZena ar
sjobda?
nebismier damkvirvebels
(prokuraturaSi romc ar
ijdes) aucileblad gauCndeba eWvi: politikuri SekveTis
garda, arsebobda kidev
konkretul CinosanTa msuye
interesic, xolo lobireba
xdeboda zustad im mimarTulebiT, sadac metis Sovna
SeiZleba.
oRond sakiTxavia, ratom
mxolod ninua da vin
daijerebs, rom ninua an misi
winamorbedebi iRebdnen politikur gadawyvetilebebs
sruliad
usargeblo
samxedro teqnikis Sesyidvis
Taobaze. Tanac, ZiriTadad
postsabWour qveynebSi!
im dros (ese igi 2008 wlamde) dasavleTis qveynebs jer
kidev ar hqondaT dawesebuli
embargo saqarTvelosTvis
iaraRis miyidvaze, anu savse-
biT SesaZlebeli iyo Tanamedrove, dasavluri warmoebis
mobiluri tanksawinaaRmdego
Tu sxva TavdacviTi sistemebis SeZena, nacvlad danjRreuli, mravalgzis Camowerili
da
asjer
gadaRebili
ukrainuli tankebisa, rom-
lebic pirvelive swavlebaze
fuWdebodnen.
eqsprokurorma da Tavdacvis ministrma irakli
oqruaSvilma brifingze, misi
winamorbedis, giorgi baramiZis ramdenime yofili TanamSromlis
dapatimrebac
moiTxova, razec baramiZem
upasuxa, rom axal teqnikas
(igulisxmeba isev da isev
tankebi) aravin mogvyidda,
naxmars ki, ra Tqma unda, remonti
regularulad
dasWirdeboda. am saqmeSi maSin prezidenti saakaSvilic
Caeria, xolo premier-minis-
tr noRaidels mcire xniT
kievSi gadafrena mouwia saqmis Casafarcxad, Torem
ukrainelebi samxedro kontaqtebis gauqmebiTac imuqrebodnen, Tu Seuracxmyofeli
gancxadebebi ar Sewydeboda.
amasobaSi, miSa ebrauli
`merkavas~ yidvas gegmavda
aRlumebze saCveneblad. sul
or egzemplarze iyo saubari,
magram Wkvianma ebraelebma
droulad Tqves uari. axla
ukve Znelad dasadgenia, ratom: nuTu imitom, rom es
tankebic rostovSi ar aRmoCeniliyo?
samagierod, ukrainuli
tankodromebidan danjRreuli teqnikis Sesyidva `vaxturi
meTodebiT~ grZeldeboda,
raki aseTi iyo politikuri
SekveTa. vin ramdeni `motexa~
da vin vis Cautana wili _
gamoZiebis gasarkvevia. faqtia, rom postsabWour qveynebs Soris sxvagvarad ar da
ver xdeba: òtkati~ am civi-
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premieri
axali ambebi
iusticiis saxlis
momsaxurebis darbazis
usafrTxoebis
garantia ar arsebobs
saqarTvelos iusticiis ministris moadgilis mixeil sarjvelaZis TqmiT, italiurma
kompaniam, romelic iusticiis
saxlis mSeneblobis procesSi
monawileobda, Senobis dazianebuli nawili Seiswavla,
yvela detali gaaanaliza da
Sualeduri Sefaseba warmoadgina, sadac naTqvamia, rom italiuri kompania Tbilisis iusticiis saxlis usafrTxoebaze
pasuxismgeblobas ver iRebs.
“ Cven ar SegviZlia, sasworze
davdoT adamianis sicocxle da
janmrTeloba. unda gvqondes
zusti da utyuari argumenti
imisa, rom am sivrceSi adamianebis yofna maTi sicocxlisa
da janmrTelobisTvis usafrTxoa”, - ganacxada mixeil
sarjvelaZem da dasZina, rom
gamoricxuli ar aris, Senobis
Sefasebis procesSi sxva specialistebic CaerTon.
emzar goguaZe:
parlamenti
sazogadoebrivi
mauwyeblis xelSi
Cagdebas cdilobs
sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis
bordis Tavmjdomare emzar
goguaZe acxadebs, rom bordis
axali wevrebis arCevis procesi xelovnurad daCqarebuli da
marTulia.
rogorc goguaZem “praimtaimis” presklubSi dRevandel
preskonferenciaze Jurnalistebs ganucxada parlamenti
sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis
xelSi Cagdebas cdilobs.
goguaZem
dRevandel
preskonferenciaze konkretuli deputatis Temur Wkuaselis gvaric daasaxela.
“dauSvebelia mmarTveli
gundis am procesSi Careva,
amis magaliTad deputati Temur Wkuaselis gancxadebac
ki sakmarisia. Wkuaselma parlamentis maRali tribunidan
gaakeTa gancxadeba Tu
mmarTveli gundi procesSi ar
Caereoda, sazogadoeba mauwyebels dakargavda. is Riad
ambobda, rom 68 kandidats
Soris misi nacnobebi arian. me
vTvli, rom msgavsi gancxadebebi dauSvebelia”, - acxadebs
goguaZe.
axali ambebi
#16 (016)
`vis atyueben eseni?~
aleqsi nozaZe
`premiers~ mamuka
areSiZe esaubra:
_ saqarTvelos
parlamentis vice-spikeris
murman dumbaZis
gancxadebam
sazogadoebaSi
araerTgvarovani reaqcia
gamoiwvia. gaisma
mosazrebebi, rom es
aris warsulis
ritorika, rom aseTi
gancxadebebi
provocirebs
separatizms. Tqven
rogor SeafasebdiT am
daZabulobas da aris Tu
ara is realuri
safrTxis Semcveli?
_ me amis gansakuTrebul
dramatizebas ar movaxdendi.
ramdenimejer wavikiTxe dumbaZis gancxadeba. marTalia,
man bevri ram ilaparaka, magram mainc vfiqrob, ar gavarTulo mdgomareoba da is
fraza gamovyo, romelic man
inga grigolias eTerSi ganacxada da romelSic logika aris, _ biujetis sakiTxze
iyo laparaki da ara centraluri xelisuflebis
Carevazeo.
biujetTan dakavSirebiT gasagebia _ cen-
mamuka areSiZe:
`yvelas unda moeTxovos
pasuxi, marto beriZes ki
ara - yvelas~
traluri
xelisufleba
aWaris biujetis xarjvis nawilSi, erTi SexedviT, ar unda
ereodes, Tu es ar exeba samarTaldamcavi organoebis
sakiTxs. magram, meore mxriv,
es erTgvari TvalTmaqcobaa
imitom, rom, principSi, centralurma xelisuflebam
RaribaSvilis piriT iqneboda es naTqvami, Tu kalaZis
piriT, gancxadeba gaakeTa
ara rogorc aWaris erTerTi xelmZRvanelis Taobaze, aramed, rogorc `qarTuli ocnebis~ erTi-erTi warmomadgenlis Taobaze. es
aRiniSna kidec. iq ar yofila laparaki, rom beriZes
pasuxi moeTxoveba, rogorc
aWaris umaRlesi sabWos
Tavmjdomares, aramed, mas
moeTxoveba pasuxi _ rogorc
`qarTuli ocnebis~ wevrs. ase
rom, sityvebis TamaSTanac
gvqonda saqme.
magram axla me sxva
rames minda Sevexo. CemTvis
sasixaruloa, Tu xelisufleba dainteresdeba zustad am TemiT _ arasaWiro
xarjebiT saxelmwifo Cinovnikebis mxridan. es iqneba avtomobilebis SeZena, Tu sxva
sikeTeebis mopoveba. dRevandel mdgomareobaSi, rodesac praqtikulad Zalian mwiri Tanxebi gamoiyofa kulturisTvis, socialuri sakiTxebisTvis da roca qveyanas
marTla uWirs realurad, da
amas aqvs Tavisi subieqturi
da obieqturi mizezebi, aseTi tipis xarjebis gaweva ar
SeiZleba. magaliTad, erTerT saministroSi, ar minda
davasaxelo,
ministris
moadgilem gadawyvita, zustad igive gaekeTebina. gadarCa imitom, rom, ubralod,
droSi ver moaswro. misma am
xarjma kinaRam Seiwira TanamSromlebis premiebi.
_ SegawyvetinebT, kalaZem
marTla Tqva, rom
sakiTxs politsabWoze
gaitandnen? magram,
modiT, viyoT
samarTlianebi, ganvlili
erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi
Cven aseTi araerTi
faqti vnaxeT
centraluri
xelisuflebis
warmomadgenlebis
magaliTze. ministrebi
da maTi moadgileebi
kabinetebSi ar Sevidnen,
sanam inventari ar
gamoacvlevines da
remontebi ar Caatares.
TiTqmis yvela ministrma
gamocvala yofili
ministris naqoni
avtomobili. aseTi
araerTi SemTxveva
dafiqsirda raionebSi.
ra, amas ver xedavda
`qarTuli ocnebis~
xelmZRvaneloba, Tu rac
dasaSvebia erTisTvis,
dauSvebelia meorisTvis?
#16 (016)
premieri
_ amas vambob mec. yvelas unda
moeTxovos pasuxi, marto
beriZes ki ara _ yvelas, dawyebuli gardabnis raionis
gamgeblidan, romelmac aseve
SeiZina jipi. gardabnis gamge-
belma zaza onianma erT-erT
sainformacio gamoSvebaSi
satelefono CarTvisas ganacxada, Cven es SevisyideT
imitom, rom Zveli `nivebi~
CavabareTo. vis atyueben eseni? sxva Tu araferi, gardabnis raions namdvilad kargad
vicnob. isic Zalian kargad
vici, rom araviTari `nivebis~ Cabarebaze iq laparaki ar
iyo. pirdapir SeiZines es manqana. me ar vici, samwuxarod,
visTvis SeiZines, magram
TavisTvis namdvilad ar
SeuZeniaT da simarTle Tqvan,
sjobia. magram es pirveli
mercxali iyo. rogorc ki
arCevnebi dasrulda, Zalian
mokle dro gavida da uceb
gardabnis raionis xelmZRvanelobam es jipi SeiZina da
amas mohyva Semdeg sxvebic.
dRemde ase midis _ manqanebis
gamocvla, uaxlesi manqanebis SeZena, ofisebis garemonteba, teqnikis SeZena da ar
vici, romeli erTi CamovTvalo. amas damatebuli xelfasebisa da premiebis sakiTxi.
yvelaferi es aris sazogadoebis gansakuTrebuli interesis qveS, rac, saboloo
jamSi, sazogadoebis gaRizianebas iwvevs. amis keTeba ar
SeiZleba. magram sjobs gvian,
vidre arasdroso naTqvamia.
me vfiqrob, rom beriZis Tema
aris ganzogadebuli da ara
konkretuli.
_ modiT, isev dumbaZis
personas davubrundeT.
man garkveuli
uTanxmoebis gamo Tavis
droze `respublikuri
partia~ datova.
ramdenad aris imis
safrTxe, rom
beriZisTvis, romelic
murman dumbaZis kadria,
`yuris awevis~ SemTxvevaSi
is `qarTul ocnebas~
ganudges?
_ mimaCnia, rom aseTi ram ar
moxdeba. dumbaZe respublikelebs roca ganudga, maSin gamosavali hqonda. axla
gamosavali namdvilad aRar
aqvs. magram asec rom ar iyos,
is ar aris iseTi tipis adamiani, rom aqeT-iqiT irbinos.
yvelafers Tavi rom davaneboT
`
aWaraSi aris uamravi
adamiani, romelmac
Zalian didi wvlili
Seitana `qarTuli
ocnebis~ gamarjvebaSi.
_ yovel SemTxvevaSi, im
pirobebSi, rodesac
garkveuli daZabuloba
saxezea, ramdenad aris
safrTxe, aWaraSi
arsebulma calkeulma
destruqciulma Zalebma,
_ vgulisxmob ara
mxolod saqarTvelos
moqalaqeebs, aramed ucxo
qveynis moqalaqeebsac, _
saTavisod gamoiyenon es
viTareba da aWaraSi
situacia arion?
_ erTi ram SemiZlia, darwmunebiT giTxraT. dumbaZem,
ra Tqma unda, Tavis winasaarCevno poziciaSi calkeuli koreqtirebebi Seitana,
igive azizies meCeTTan dakavSirebiT, magram, is ar aris
_ im periodSi, rodesac
`qarTuli ocneba~
iqmneboda, Tqven swored
rom regionebTan
urTierTobis sakiTxebs
ganagebdiT. dRevandeli
gadasaxedidan Tu
SevafasebT movlenebs,
saintereso ram ikveTeba
_ adamianebs aqvT
pretenziebi
gamgeblebTan, igive
beriZesTan. ra xdeba,
nuTu ase rTuli iyo
mosaxleobisTvis
misaRebi kadrebis
SerCeva? rogor ver
moiZebna erT raionSi
Tu regionSi erTi iseTi
adamiani, romelic
adgilobrivi
mosaxleobis
arCil xabaZe, romelic, ase
vTqvaT, pirdapir kavSirSia
biZina ivaniSvilTan da Tqven
iciT, ratomac _ is misi
kadria. axla getyviT erT
rames, romelic SeiZleba, sxva
viTarebaSi arc meTqva. rodesac me viyavi `qarTuli ocnebis~ regionuli samsaxuris
ufrosi, pirvelma me vTxove,
CvenTan mosuliyo. me usufaSvilTanac viyavi, rom dumbaZesa da mas Soris urTierToba damelagebina. es aris 2012
wlis ianvari an Tebervali.
es is droa, rodesac saWiro
da aucilebeli iyo aWaraSi
gundis Seqmna da es is periodia, rodesac yvelaferi
sasworze iyo Semodebuli.
dumbaZe iyo CemTan mosuli.
is Tamaz diasamiZem moiyvana.
amis mere mivedi usufaSvilTan da vTxove, rom yofiliyo
Serigeba. marTali giTxra,
Sedegs ver mivaRwie verc
erTi mxridan. magram amas ara
aqvs mniSvneloba. saboloo
jamSi, dumbaZem moaxerxa,
rogorc Cans, sxva àrxi gaeWra~. Tebervlis mere me ukve
aRar viyavi partiaSi imave
poziciaze. mokled, dumbaZem
daamyara kavSirebi partiis
xelmZRvanelobasTan. axla
rac Sexeba Tavad im situacias, romelic iq Seiqmna. iq
uamravia iseTi adamiani,,
romelic namdvilad Rirsi
iyo, rom aWara warmoedgina
rogorc centralur xelisuflebaSi, aseve adgilze.
magram `qarTul ocnebaSi~
Seqmnilma situaciam es mdgomareoba ar ganapiroba. imitom rom centrSi, `qarTul
ocnebaSi~ bevri cdilobda,
Tavisi kandidatura gaeqaCa
sxvadasxva regionebSi da maT
Soris aWaraSic. maT ise
gaagiJes ivaniSvili, rom,
bolos da bolos, aWarlebze
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axali ambebi
ukanono
cecxlsasroli
iaraRi amoiRes
sapatrulo policiis
TanamSromlebma 1974 wels
dabadebuli, warsulSi nasamarTlevi levan c. TbilisSi, aRmaSeneblis xeivanSi
daakaves.
sapatrulo
policiis ekipaJma sagzao
moZraobis wesebis darRvevisTvis „renos” markis avtomanqana.
samarTaldamcvelebma avtomanqanaSi myofi mgzavris levan c-s
qceva saeWvod miiCnies da
manqanidan gadmosvla sTxoves, sapatrulo policiis
TanamSromlebma misi garegnuli
daTvalierebisas
saqamreSi cecxlsasroli
iaraRi SeniSnes, romelic
araregistrirebuli aRmoCnda. samarTaldamcvelebma
levan c. cecxlsasroli
iaraRis marTlsawinaaRmdego SeZena-Senaxva-tarebis
braldebiT daakaves.
saministroSi acxadeben,
rom eqspertizis daskvniT
amoRebulia „makarovis”
sistemis pistoleti, 1 mWidi da 9 sabrZolo vazna.
gamoZieba cecxlsasroli
iaraRis marTlsawinaaRmdego SeZena-Senaxvis faqtze
mimdinareobs (sssk-is 236-e
muxlis 1-li da me-2 nawilebiT).
SatberaSvili: ra
gaxda aseTi
avTandil beriZe,
romelmac sakuTari
qolga ver daikava
xelSi
maTi umravlesoba
darCa procesebsmiRma.
am adamianebs krebaze ki
ara, Sekrebebzec ki
aRar eZaxian. es
adamianebi arian
ganawyenebulebi da maT
Soris aris bevri,
marTlac, sanaqebo
adamiani. ase rom, ar
iqneba dumbaZe _ iqneba
sxva.
`
is kaci, romelic SeiZleba
saqarTvelos mtrebs gverdiT
daudges.
an
Tundac
saqarTvelos Semviwroeblebs.
dRes aWaraSi aris seriozuli Zala, romelsac
SeuZlia, eqspansiis calkeul
gamovlinebebs, aseve, seriozuli winaaRmdegoba gauwios.
es zustad is SemTxvevaa,
rodesac centraluri xelisuflebis neba unda iyos
amisTvis.
umetesobisTvis misaRebi
iqneboda da ara
Zaladobrivad
Tavsmoxveuli?
_ aWaris SemTxvevaSi swored
rom dumbaZis pozicia iyo,
rom beriZe yofiliyo aWaris
umaRlesi sabWos Tavmjdomare.
_ maSin dasturdeba is
moaruli xmebi, rom
aWaras
dumbaZe
ganagebs...
_ mTlad ase araa... ar ganagebs. imitom rom arsebobs
gadawyvita pirdapir dayrdnoba. aseTi iyo xabaZe da aseTi iyo dumbaZe. mokled,
`
aWaruli
warmomadgenlobis
normaluri portretis
Seqmnas TviTon
`qarTuli ocnebis~
mesveurebma SeuSales
xeli TavianTi
auwoneli
aqtiurobiT.
`
“memarcxene aliansis” erTerTi lideri soso SatberaSvili acxadebs, rom partia “qarTulma ocnebam”
aWaris umaRlesi sabWos xelmZRvanelis avTandil beriZis sakiTxi unda ganixilos
da mas disciplinuri sasjeli unda daakisros.
“rogor unda gauCndes
beriZes aseTi moTxovnilebebi sakuTari personis, ojaxis
mimarT, rom man bulvarSi
iaros Tavisi jipiT, iq sadac
akrZalulia sxva manqanebis
Sesvla, Tavis Tavs vip persona uwodos, mezoblebi gaanawyenos TagvebiT savse bunkris
gamo, hyavdes qolgis damWerebi. socialur qselebSi
vrceldeba fotoebi, rogor
ukavia qolga inglisis dedofals, jorj buSs, bil klintons, sxva did politikosebs.
ra gaxda aseTi avTandil beriZe, romelmac sakuTari qolga ver daikava xelSi”,-aRniSna SatberaSvilma.
axali ambebi
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#16 (016)
`samoqalaqo sazogadoebis dasusteba
undaT da ase amitom iqcevian~
anka bazeraSvili
adgilze. Tan davureke
advokatebs, rom unda
gavficuliyaviT. amitomac
ver gabedes bolomde,
rac undodaT, imis
gakeTeba.
s
aqarTvelos
advokatTa
asociaciis ukve
meored
arCeuli
Tavmjdomare,
zaza xatiaSvili
`premiers~ Sehpirda,
rom male qarTvel
advokats Tavisi
codniT,
esTetikurobiTa da
RirsebiT gamorCeul
figurad aqcevs. is
apirebs momavali
wlidan qarTveli
advokatebisTvis
mantiebic Seakerinos da
regionebSi advokatTa
saxlebic gaxsnas.
zaza xatiaSvili:
_ arCevnebze advokatTa
asociaciis 5 kandidati viyaviT da 80 procentamde xmebi me
aviRe. Zalian TvalSisacemi
gamarjveba iyo. pirvelad rom
gavxdi Tavmjdomare, 4 wlis
winaT, pirvel turSi xmebis 35
procenti aviRe, amitom meore
turi gaxda saWiro. axla ki
advokatebi gabedulad mendnen da es mixaria. Zalian didi
ndoba gamomicxades, rac pasuxismgeblobas mizrdis.
ufro metad unda vibrZolo
maTi uflebebis dasacavad da
imis gamo, rom es profesia
prestiJuli gaxdes.
_ axla is miTxariT,
advokatebis aseTi ndoba
riT daimsaxureT?
_ Cavibare dangreuli asociacia, romelic ganTavsebuli iyo samoTaxian binaSi. asociacias ki 80 aTasi vali edo
kiserze wina xelmZRvanelobisgan darCenili. 4 welSi
movaxerxe da valic gavistumre, 4-sarTuliani Senobac
vuyide asociacias, sami Tvis
win ki saswavlo centrisTvis
SevuZine Senoba da valdebuls
vxdi yvela advokats, yovel
wels, 12 saaTi iq ufasod iswavlon, codna aimaRlon,
eTikaSi gaiaron treningebi,
raTa samoqalaqo sazogadoebas ukeT moemsaxuron. asociacia vaqcie yvelaze mZlavr
struqturad, romelic qveya-
`
ìvaniSviliviT, raRacas Tu ver
vakeTeb, sxvebs ver gadavabraleb~
naSi marTla viTardeba. es
dainaxes advokatebma da amitom damidgnen gverdSi. roca
am asociaciis Tavmjdomare
pirvelad gavxdi, 111 advokati cixeSi damxvda. erTaderTi Tavmjdomare viyavi evropis masStabiT, romelmac oficialuri daskvna aviRe evropis advokatTa saerTaSoriso
observatoriidan, rom advokatura aris riskis sfero
da advokati SiSis qveS axorcielebs Tavis uflebamosilebas. Tomas hamerbergma, romelic iyo adamianis uflebebis
dacvis komisari, mxolod Cveni qveynis advokatebze dawera,
rom midis advokatebis institucionaluri devnao. aseTi
ram ar dauweriaT arc belorusze, arc azerbaijanze
da sxva qveynebze. am daskvnebis Semdeg mTeli evropa iTxovda saakaSvilis reJimisgan
advokatebis ganTavisuflebas.
100-mde advokati gamoviyvaneT
cixidan. ori kviris win viyavi
briuselSi, advokatTa asoci-
aciis axali aRmasrulebeli
sabWos pirvel nomerTan, advokat daviT asaTianTan erTad. evropis advokatTa asociaciis moTxovniT iq gvyavda
Cayvanili advokati mariana
ivelaSvili, romelic aRiares,
rogorc yvelaze ukanonod
dapatimrebuli advokati da
iq is daajildoves. Tavis qeba
ki gamomdis, magram simarTlea
is, rom es swored Cemi ZalisxmeviT moxda. mariana Tanamdebobis borotad gamoyenebisTvis iyo dapatimrebuli. Tanamdebobis borotad gamoyeneba Tavisufali profesiis adamianis mimarT evropaSi aqamde ar dafiqsirebula. es iciT,
rogor aris? axla Tqven
CemTvis arasasurveli interviu rom CaweroT, mere me giCivloT da Tqven Tanamdebobis borotad gamoyenebis muxliT dagapatimron. es saqme
msoflios ganxilvis sagnad
vaqcie da jer kidev nacionalebis dros, adeiSvilis mTavari prokurorobis period-
Sive SevZeli, SeewyvitaT advokatebis dabareba-dakiTxvebi im saqmeebze, romelsac isini awarmoebdnen. evropis advokatTa asociaciis samarTlis sabWos aRmasrulebeli
komitetis
Tavmjdomare
kruzi da evropis advokatTa
asociaciisa da samarTlis
sabWos dRevandeli vice-prezidenti maria slazaki Tavad
mividnen adeiSvilTan da
mosTxoves aseTi qmedebebis
Sewyveta. amis Semdeg nacionalebma daiwyes advokatebis mimarT civilizebuli formiT
urTierToba. 2012 wlis ianvridan aseTi ram aRar xdeboda. erT faqts hqonda mxolod
adgili, roca am SeTanxmebis
Semdeg dakiTxes advokati daviT dekanoiZe. man damireka da
miTxra, rom dakiTxvaze
ibarebdnen im saqmeze, romelsac Tavad awarmoebda. saRamos davureke robert kruzs.
igi diliTve Camofrinda
saqarTveloSi, mivida iusticiis saministroSi da is
prokurori, romelmac dekanoiZe daibara, maSinve gaaTavisufles samsaxuridan. advokats ki daurekes da bodiSi
mouxades.
`
mTel msoflioSi
akrZalulia advokatis
dakiTxva im saqmeze,
romelsac awarmoebs. es
igivea, mRvdeli
dakiTxo, aRsareba rom
Cagabara am adamianma,
miTxari, ra giTxrao.
es procesi nacionalebis
dros movspe
saqarTveloSi. megona,
axali xelisufleba
movidoda da
davisvenebdi, magram sami
Tvis win maTac moundaT
am binZuri tradiciis
aRdgena da advokati
inga kuprava daibares
quTaisis policiaSi
dakiTxvaze. gavige Tu
ara, maSinve Cavedi
kuprava daibares, bodiSi
mouxades da gamouSves. saintereso iyo isic, rom inga
kupravas winaaRmdeg saCivari
aravis ar hqonda Setanili.
gamomZiebeli eubneboda, operatiuli informacia miviReT
da amitom dagibareTo. aseTi
ram saakaSvilis drosac ar
momxdara, mTeli msoflio
Sevyare, yvelas mivwere, ra
zewolac xdeboda umizezod
advokatze.
mTavari
prokurori jer kidev kbilaSvili iyo. is winaT xom advokati gaxldaT da egreve gavaCereT es procesi. advokatis
dakiTxva Tavisi saqmianobis
gamo arafriT ar SeiZleba.
Semdgom gavige isic, rom im
dRes, roca kuprava gamoiZaxes dasakiTxad, sxva advokatebic dakiTxes sam uwyebaSi, magram maT ratomRac ar Sematyobines. ingas ar SeeSinda da
Camayena saqmis kursSi. anu am
xelisuflebasac undoda advokatebis winaaRmdeg binZuri
kampaniis agoreba, magram
prokuraturas es ar gavakeTebine. ician advokatebma, rom
vinc Sematyobinebs, ukanonod
vinme rames rom erCiT, maT
Tavs aravis davaCagvrineb. aseTi Sedegi arCevnebze amitomac dadga.
_ rogorc maxsovs, axali
xelisuflebis periodSi,
kanonmdeblobaSi
cvlilebebis gamo
quTaisSi, parlamentTan
aqciebic moawyobineT
advokatebs. am protestmac
gamoiRo Sedegi?
_ diax, gamoiRo. 1-li ianvridan mowme pirdapir sasamarTlo procesze daikiTxeba
da es swored parlamentTan
gamosvlebiT, premier-ministrTan werilebis gagzavnisa
da erTi ambis atexis Semdeg
moxda. yvela qveyanaSi mowme
mxolod sasamarTloSi ikiTxeba, aq ki policia Tavisi manqaniT CamouvliT, SeyriT, waiyvanT da eubneba, Cven rogorc
gvinda, ise unda dawero, Tu
ara da, Senc CagagdebT cixe-
.
“opoziciis aqtiurobam da sazogadoebis mxardaWeram
Sedegi gamoiRo”
“erTmniSvnelovnad SemiZlia vTqva rom opoziciis aqtiurobam da
sazogadoebis mxardaWeram TviTmmarTvelobis kodeqsTan dakavSirebiT
Sedegi gamoiRo. umravlesobis warmomadgenlebTan arsebobs SeTanxmeba
TviTmmarTvelobis kodeqsTan dakavSirebiT. norma romelmac SesaZloa
gaaaqtiuros separatistulad ganwyobili Zalebi iqneba amoRebuli. exla
win aris meore mosmena da Cven am dros aseTive aqtiurad gavagrZelebT
muSaobas. ianvris bolomde Cven unda vicodeT rogori wesebiT vatarebT arCevnebs”
jondi baRaTuria,, “qarTuli dasis” lideri
komentari
“gvjera, rom ukrainis momavali evropaSia”
“ukraina dasavleTis da evropeli xalxis nawilia da ra Tqma unda,
arcerT
Cvengans
ar
surs
Zaladoba.
es
mSvidobiani
demonstraciaa. Cven, ra Tqma unda, mkacrad vgmobT Zalis gamoyenebas nebismieri adamianis mimarT. es demokratiul principebs ewinaaRmdegeba. aq imitom var rom gamovxato mxardaWera ukrainaSi
mimdinare movlenebTan dakavSirebiT. Cveni mTavari gzavnili Semdegia: Cven gvjera, rom ukrainis momavali evropaSia. Zalian vamayob
ukrainelil xalxis qmedebiT”.
jon makkeini,, amerikeli senatori
komentari
#16 (016)
premieri
Sio. aseTi iyo amaTi gamoZieba
aqamde. sacodavi mowme-moqalaqe iyo daucveli. axlaxan
briuselSi viyavi da iqac
vTqvi, romelime mowme Tu mokvda policiaSi, es iqneba
saqarTvelos parlamentisa da
yofili premier-ministris,
biZina ivaniSvilis brali-meTqi. 2012 wels am formiT mokles qimeriZe. maSin ivaniSvili
ambobda, roca Cven movalT xelisuflebaSi, aseT rameebs
aravis vapatiebTo, Tumca movidnen da mamuka miqautaZem,
romelic policiaSi mowmed
Sevida, misca Cveneba, gamovida
da Tavi moikla. mere ratomRac aRar ambobda ivaniSvili,
es imitom moxda, rom mowme
policiaSi ki ara, sasamarTloSi unda dakiTxuliyoo.
miqautaZeca da qimeriZec
policiaSi rom ar mieyvanaT
mowmis statusiT, orive cocxali iqneboda. samoqalaqo sazogadoebas vicav, roca vambob, rom iseTi sakanonmdeblo
cvlilebebi unda Catardes,
rogoric evropis qveynebSiameTqi. roca mowmis policiaSi
dakiTxvis vadis gagrZeleba
undodaT, am moTxovniT iciT,
vin Sevida parlamentSi? yofili premier-ministri ivaniSvili. iqneb gveRirsos, rom
Cvenc, rogorc nebismieri
evropeli moqalaqe, aRar
gvcemon, aRar gvawamon,
mowmed rom dagvibareben, mivideT da sasamarTloSi mivceT
Cveneba.
_ advokatma mamuka
nozaZem mediasTan
saubarSi aseTi ram Tqva,
wlebis ganmavlobaSi zaza
xatiaSvili ki iyo
advokatTa asociaciis
Tavmjdomare, magram
aRmasrulebeli sabWos
gareSe advokatTa
asociaciis Tavmjdomare
veranair gadawyvetilebas
ver miiRebda. axla
swored es sabWo
Seicvala da movediT
erTiani gundio.
mainteresebs, vin iyvnen
yofil aRmasrulebel
sabWoSi da romeli
gadawyvetilebebis miRebis
dros SegiSales maT
xeli?!
_ ar SemiZlia aseTi ram
vTqva, radgan yofilma sabWom
Zalian bevri gaakeTa advokatebisTvis. cxadia, iyo azrTa
sxvadasxvaoba, rac bunebrivia.
roca saqme advokatebis dacvas exeba, me xels verc Zveli
sabWo miSlida da romc
moundes _ verc axali. sabWo
advokatTa asociaciis ganviTarebis sakiTxebze muSaobs.
mamukas veTanxmebi imaSi, rom
axla sabWoSi varT erTiani
gundi da mxolod da mxolod
cnobili uflebadamcvelebi.
100 procentiT Seicvala sab-
Wo, radgan CavTvaleT, rom
advokatTa asociacias axali
sisxli sWirdeboda. aqamde
advokatTa dacvis komisias
marto vxelmZRvanelobdi,
axla ki CemTan erTad mamuka
nozaZec iqneba misi xelmZRvaneli, rac ganviTarebisTvis
Zalian kargia. mamukac saakaSvilis reJimis msxverplia. is
ukanonod iyo dakavebuli da
icis, ra Znelia ukanono patimrobaSi yofna. is cixidan
awarmoebda brZolas advokatTa uflebebis dacvisa da
gaZlierebisTvis. sabWoSi 11
wevria, me-12 advokatTa asociaciis
Tavmjdomarea,
romelic amavdroulad aRmasrulebeli sabWos Tavmjdomarecaa. vinc iyvnen winandel sabWoSi, iyvnen, axla maTi
gvarebis CamoTvlas namdvilad ar vapireb. ivaniSviliv-
saaTi ufasod datreningdnen
da gaiaron eTikis kursi. es
gaakeTa im sabWom da namdvilad ver davemdurebi. am
sabWom Tu gaakeTa maTze meti,
mec es minda. SemiZlia axali
sabWos Semadgenloba dagisaxeloT, yvela cnobili advokatia: daviT asaTiani, roin migriauli _ gakotrebis samarTalSi erTaderTi doqtori,
profesori amierkavkasiaSi,
zura rostiaSvili _ advokaturis legenda, cismari oniani _ es erTaderTi wamoviyvane Zveli gundidan, irma Wkadua cnobili advokatia, daviT
lanCava _ advokati, romelsac 10 Svili hyavs da meaTe
wels SeeZina, irakli yandaSvili _ axalgazrda asocirebuli profesori, mamuka nozaZe _ uflebadamcveli advokati, xaTuna modebaZe _
li organo. kanoniT, advokatTa asociacias warmoadgens
Tavmjdomare. dokumentebze
xelmoweras, advokatis miReba-ganTavisuflebas Tavmjdomare wyvets da veravin ereva am sakiTxebSi. sabWosTan
erTad ki unda vmarTo asociaciis saqmianoba. sad erTi
adamiani rom ifiqrebs am
saqmeze da sad erTi gundis
wevri 12 kaci?!
_ sabWos xom SeuZlia
Tqveni raime iniciativa
dablokos, ara?!
_ isedac erTpirovnuli
gadawyvetilebebis mteri var.
es antidemokratiuli qmedebaa da ar miyvars. winaTac
sabWosTan erTad vwyvetdi
asociaciasTan dakavSirebul
yvela sakiTxs da axlac ase
gavakeTeb. winaTac sabWos veub-
amiani Cemiania da cxadia, maTTan muSaoba ufro gamiadvildeba. Zvel sabWos xeli
rom SeeSala, verafers mivaRwevdi.
_ amjerad ris gakeTebas
apirebT Tqven da Tqveni
gundi, rogori gegmebi
gaqvT?
_ saarCevno sityva ar miTqvams, gamovedi da mxolod es
vTqvi _ rasac vakeTebdi axlac igives gavakeTeb-meTqi.
pirvelad gavakeTeb imas, rom
advokatebs davukargav xelisuflebis SiSs. amjerad
kidev aqvT es SiSi da sruliad movuspob amas. zaza xatiaSvili ki ar unda iyos maTi
dacvis garanti, kanonma unda
daicvas yvela advokati,
rogorc es normalur da civilizebul saxelmwifoebSia.
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centri, sadac samegrelosa da
aWaris advokatebi datreningdebian. maT unda vaswavlo
evropis sasamarTloSi saqmeebis warmoeba. ivnisSi viyavi
strasburgSi da maT 320 aTasi
evro mogvces, rogorc evropaSi iswavleba, im xarisxiT rom
vaswavloT evrosasamarTloSi
saqmis warmoeba advokatebs.
quTaisSi ukve Sevqmeni advokatebis Zlieri jgufi da baTumSic gavakeTeb amas. sanam
ivaniSvili xelisuflebaSi
movidoda, manamde is yvelas
afinansebda _ policias,
prokuraturas, aZlierebda
yvelas advokatis asociaciis
dasustebis xarjze. xelisuflebaSi rom movida, maSinac
ar miuRia arc erTi lari
Cvens asociacias misgan. yvelafers Cveni Sromisa da Tanxebis dazogviT vakeTebT. erTi
ram faqtia, xelisufali, vinc
ki modis, Tavidanve cdilobs,
advokatTa korpusi gaanadguros, radgan swored Cven
varT samoqalaqo sazogadoebis damcvelebi. aqedan gamomdinare, SemiZlia vTqva, rom
`
maT samoqalaqo
sazogadoebis dasusteba
undaT da ase amitom
iqcevian. erTaderTi
Tanamdebobis piri,
romelic amas ar
fiqrobs, aris Tea
wulukiani, danarCenebSi
ver vxedav survils,
rom samoqalaqo
sazogadoebas pozitiuri
saqmeebi gaukeTon.
`
`1-li ianvridan mowme
pirdapir sasamarTlo
procesze daikiTxeba~
iT, raRacas Tu ver vakeTeb,
sxvebs ver gadavabraleb. is
sabWo ukve aris warsuli da
me vacxadeb, rom man Zalian
kargad imuSava. maT dros moxda gangrZobad iuridiul sakiTxebze muSaoba da advokatebi valdebulebi gaxdnen,
rom yovel wels, 12 krebiTi
eTikis komisiaSi 8 weli
muSaobs, bondo alasania da
giorgi TevzaZe _ uflebadamcveli. sabWo aris arCeviTi. 39
kandidati iyo, 11 adamiani
piradad warvadgine da yvela
Cemi kandidatura gavida.
TavmjdomareebTan erTad, sabWo aris asociaciis mmarTve-
nebodi, rom ase gavakeToT, ase
sjobia-meTqi da maT arasdros
uTqvamT, es ar gaakeToo. mamuka aris uflebadamcveli da
fiqrobs, rom raRac momentSi
ufro meti mxardaWera damWirdeba. marTlac, es sabWo
imedia, ufro metad amomidgeba gverdiT, radgan Cemi gundia, amas vaRiareb. 11-ve ad-
aseve, Zalian minda baTumSi
gavxsna iseTive advokatis saxli, rogorc es quTaisSi gavakeTe. momavali wlis amocana
es aris. martis bolomde ganvadebiT SeviZenT iq saxls da
finansuri saxsrebis, Semowirulobebis mopovebaSi axali
sabWo damexmareba. iq unda
gavakeTo 40-kaciani saswavlo
axla
baTumSi,
quTaissa da TelavSi,
mere zugdidsa da samcxe-javaxeTSi gveqneba
advokatTa saxlebi. me
rom waval am Tanamdebobidan, advokatTa
asociacia iqneba saxelmwifo saxelmwifoSi. axla erT eqskluzivs getyviT. rac
meored gavxdi advokatTa Tavmjdomare, gadavwyvite, advokatebs
mantiebi Sevukero.
procesebze Tu mosamarTle mantiiT ijdeba, advokatic ase unda
gamocxaddes. Zalian
male gamovacxadeb
konkurss dizainerebSi. yvelaze karg mantiebs, rac
ki advokatebs aqvT msoflioSi, SevajerebT da qarTvel advokatebs gansakuTrebulad
mimzidvel mantiebs SevukeravT. advokati Zalian male
iqneba gamorCeuli figura
Tavisi codniT, esTetikurobiTa da RirsebiT.
.
TviTmarqvia devnilobaze axali amnistia
gamocxaddeba
“devnilTa xelaxali savaldebulo aRricxvis Sedegad uamravi
darRveva dafiqsirda. axali monacemebiT, qveyanaSi 205 aTasi devnilia, wina aRricxvis monacemebiT ki, am kategoriis adamianebis
raodenoba 272 aTass Seadgenda. 1 110 adamianis saqme mokvlevaSia
da aqedan 500 piris saqme mTavar prokuraturaSia gadagzavnili.
zogierTma maTganma miiRo msxvili fuladi daxmareba, romelic mas
ar ekuTvnoda, vinaidan is devnili ar iyo. vfiqrobT, rom uaxloes periodSi gamovides amnistia
da vinc nebayoflobiT aRiarebs, rom is ar aris devnili, mas Seiwyaleben”
daviT daraxveliZe,,
devnilTa da gansaxlebis ministri
komentari
umciresobam xmamaRla Tqvas, rasac parlamentis
adgilmdebareobaze farulad amboben
“gulze xeli daidon da xmamaRla Tqvan is simarTle, rasac
parlamentis quTaisSi mdebareobasTan dakavSirebiT farulad,
kameris miRma amboben. parlamentis adgilmdebareobis sakiTxTan dakavSirebul sakonstitucio cvlilebebze “nacionaluri
moZraobis” warmomadgenlebTan konsultaciebi mimdinareobs,
Tumca es sakiTxi am etapze gaCerebulia. umciresobazea damokidebuli, rogor gadawydeba aRniSnuli sakiTxi”.
vaxtang xmalaZe,, parlamentis wevri
komentari
10 premieri
#16 (016)
vasil maRlaferiZe:
àr momwons,
rodesac arCeul
adamianebs
demokratiuli
Tavadaznaurobis
gancda
gamoumuSavdebaT~
goCa mircxulava
p
remiers~
esaubra vasil
maRlaferiZe
maRlaferiZe:
_ batono
vasiko, bolo
dros araerTxel
movismineT mosazreba,
rom, Tu yvelaferi ase
gagrZelda,
xelisuflebaSi
`nacionalebi~
dabrundebian da ai,
maSin unda vnaxoT, ra
moxdeba. daaxloebiT,
analogiuri azri
gamoTqva amas winaT
batonma valeri
gelbaxianma. Tqven ras
fiqrobT amis Sesaxeb?
_ ori sityviT Znelia, upasuxo am kiTxvas. sazogadoebis erTi nawili, albaT, elodeboda, rom `nacionaluri
moZraobis~ mimarT ufro
mkacri RonisZiebebi gatardeboda. Cven gvesmis amis
Sesaxeb, rom adamianebi
moiTxoven viRacebis cixeSi
Casmas, dasjas. bunebrivia, es
adamianebi imedgacruebulebi arian.
is, rom `nacionaluri moZraoba~ uaxloes periodSi dabrundeba qveynis
marTvis saTaveSi arCevnebis
gziT, es me perspeqtiulad ar
meCveneba. odesRac da uxsovar momavalSi ver getyviT,
ra moxdeba. magram is, rom
uaxloes TviTmmarTvelobis
arCevnebsa da Semdeg saparlamento arCevnebSi `nacionaluri moZraobis~ dabruneba arCevnebiT moxdeba, amis
SesaZleblobas ver vxedav.
isini rom amas ZaliT SeZleben, es saerTod gamoricxuli mgonia.
`qarTuli ocneba~,
rogorc Cans, da arc malavs
amas, koabitaciis gziT midis
da miaCnia, rom unda moxdes
Segueba da SeiZleba, ase vTqvaT, Serigebac. bunebrivia, es
bevrSi iwvevs gaRizianebas.
isic bunebrivia, rom adamianebs TavisTavad uCndebaT
kiTxvebi, rodesac sadRac
viRac iniSneba, an ar aris
ganTavisuflebuli, viRac
agrZelebs muSaobs, viRacas
biznesebi isev rCeba. faqtobrivad, rom vTqvaT, `nacionalur moZraobas~, garda
imisa, rom mmarTveli Zala
aRar aris, praqtikulad
araferi dahklebia. man SeinarCuna yvelaferi _ maT
Soris Tavisi finansebi. es,
bunebrivia, aRizianebT adamianebs. rac Sexeba imas, rom
isini dabrundebian, anu dabrundeba
`nacionaluri
moZraoba~ da qveynis marTvas gaagrZelebs, miT umetes
im personebiT, romlebic
dRes `nacionaluri moZraobis~ saTaveSi arian, gamoricxuli mgonia da SeiZleba
vcdebi.
_ ukmayofilo adamianebi
axseneT, romlebic
samarTlianobis
aRdgenas moiTxoven.
CemTvis imTaviTve
gaugebari iyo, ras
gulisxmobda `qarTuli
ocneba~ samarTlianobis
aRdgenaSi. mimaCnda, rom
unda momxdariyo
institucionaluri
reforma _ am gziT
wasuliyo xelisufleba
da es slogani sakmaod
bevri adamianisTvis ar
gamxdariyo SurisZiebis
safuZveli. am fonze,
rodesac dResac
aqtualuria `vendeta~,
xom ar aris upriani,
xelisuflebam axla mainc
ganmartos, ra aris
misTvis samarTlianobis
aRdgena?
_ Wkuis maswavleblad ver
gamovadgebi xelisuflebas,
verc me da verc sxva moqalaqe. imitom, rom xelisufleba imoqmedebs ise,
rogorc TviTon miaCnia
saWirod. magram mTavaria,
yovelTvis iyos garemo da
jerjerobiT aris kidec, rom
xalxma arCevnebis gziT
Secvalos xelisufleba. Sesabamisad, yvela xelisufleba
damokidebuli
iyos
arCevnebze. Torem cxadia,
rom xelisufleba swored ise
imoqmedebs, rogorc mas
surs.
rac
Sexeba
samarTlianobis aRdgenas, erTi
ram ar dagvaviwydes, rom
sul raRac weliwad-naxevris
win qveyanaSi SiSisa da moqalaqeebis fsiqologiuri
daTrgunvis atmosfero iyo.
es iyo is mTavari, ramac xelisuflebis Secvla gamoiwvia. ar aris gamoricxuli,
rom, albaT, amas ityvian xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi, Tumca xelisufleba Wrelia da sxvadasxvanairad
moazrovne. magram getyvian,
rom Cven amas vxedavdiT samarTlianobis aRdgenaSi,
rom SiSisgan ganTavisufldnen adamianebio da marTlac,
rom SiSisgan ganTavisuflda
sazogadoeba. amis daunaxaoba, ubralod, ar SeiZleba.
yvelaze metad es, albaT,
Jurnalistebma unda igrZnon,
visac aqvs amis grZnobis unari. Tumca SesaZloa, bevrs
es arc hqondes. amis nimuSia
Tundac
saprezidento
arCevnebi, miuxedavad imisa,
vis moswons Sedegebi da vis _
ara. saqarTveloSi bevri
wlis Semdeg Catarda arCevnebi, romelic ar mimdinareobda cema-tyepis, zonderbrigadebis, sod-is, kud-isa da
policiis
lamis
gasamxedroebuli operaciebis fonze. SeiZleba swored es
Tqvan xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma, rom ai, amas vxedavdiT Cven samarTlianobis
aRdgenaSi da Znelia, Seedavo.
mesmis valeri gelbaxianis da misi ukmayofilebac, magram wlinaxevris winaT
is samSobloSi ver Camodioda da axla aq akeTebs am
gancxadebebs. es yvelaferi
mainc pirobiTia, anu adamianis kmayofileba rodis iqneba miRweuli.
mec SeiZleba bevri
ram ar momwons, magram ras
aviRebT samarTlianobis aTvlis wertilad, es aris
Zalian rTuli. am qveyanaSi
adamianebs saerTod SeuZli-
aT ki samarTlianobis aRdgena? adamianebis xvedri ara
mgonia, samarTlianobis aRdgena iyos.
_ Tqven brZaneT, rom
calkeuli raRacebi ar
mogwonT, magram
konkretulad ra aris is
umTavresi, romelic
Tqvens ukmayofilebas
iwvevs da ris
gamosworebiskenac
miuTiTebdiT
xelisuflebas?
_ rogorc yvela adamians,
mec maqvs imis srulad gamoxatvis saSualeba, rac ar momwons. roca aseTi ganwyoba
maqvs, vwer xolme amis Sesaxeb. Tu mimaCnia saWirod da
visTanac mimaCnia saWirod, im
eTerSi mivdivar da vambob
sruliad Tavisuflad. Tumca zogTan, Jurnalistebs
vgulisxmob, ar mimaCnia
saWirod, saerTod visaubro.
vin gaiTvaliswinebs
amas,
xelisuflebaze
vsaubrob, da vin _ ara, Cven
amas veravis davavaldebulebT. zogisTvis es faseuli iqneba, zogisTvis _ ara.
Tumca vatyob, rom xelisufleba amas iTvaliswinebs da
dRes metad angariSvaldebulia.
xelisuflebas ar
moswons arapopularuli
nabijebi, radgan es maT
qulebs ar matebs. Tundac is,
rom manqanebis SeZenasTan
dakavSirebiT, ori-sami dRis
Semdeg maT bodiSi mouxades
sazogadoebas da Tqves, rom
amas gamoasworeben, wingadadgmuli nabijia. gamodis, rom
isini ukve angariSs uweven mosaxleobas. ratom uweven angariSs?
imitom
rom
.
“evrokavSiris programebSi saqarTvelos monawileoba xels
Seuwyobs gamocdilebis gacvlas”
“dRes xeli movawereT oqms, romlis mixedviTac saqarTvelos SeuZlia
monawileoba miiRos evrokavSiris Sida programebSi, sadac amis SesaZleblobas
sakanonmdeblo CarCo iZleva. Cven vTavazobT saqarTvelos programebs, romlebic evrokavSiris Sida instrumentebs warmoadgens da romlebic xels uwyobs urTierTgagebis ganmtkicebasa da evrokavSiris doneze monawileobis
politikis ganxorcielebas. mtkiced mwams, rom evrokavSiris programebSi saqarTvelos monawileoba xels Seuwyobs gamocdilebis gacvlas, saukeTeso praqtikis damkvidrebas, sakanonmdeblo harmonizaciasa da reformebis ganxorcielebas.
linas linkeviCiusi,, litvis sagareo saqmeTa ministri
komentari
“sifrTxilis gamoCena aucilebelia, radganac procesebma
parlamentidan quCaSi ar gadainacvlos”
“mTavari braldebuli am TemaSi gaxlavT Cveni sazogadoebisTvis Tavmoxveuli obieqti da ara subieqti, kerZod – amxanagi kohabitacia. rodesac viwyebT kohabitacia, misi sivrcis warmodgena unda SegveZlos, Sesasvlelic unda vicodeT am koabitaciaSi da gamosasvlelic. winasaarCevno
kampaniaSi batoni margvelaSvili brZanebda, rom qveyanaSi kohabitacia dasruldeboda. rogorc Cans, es ar daijera batonma baramiZem da hgonia, rom
isev kohabitaciis procesSi iyo, isaubra ise, rom darwmunebuli iyo
araviTar pasuxs ar miiRebda Segonebebze”
soso ciskariSvili,, eqsperti
komentari
#16 (016)
premieri
arCevnebze arian damokidebuli. axla mTavaria, es SevinarCunoT _ xelisufleba
arCevnebze iyos damokidebuli. danarCeni maTi niWisa da
unaris sakiTxia. vinc Wkviania, is yovelTvis gaiTvaliswinebs garkveul rCevebs.
xolo vinc ugunuria, is
arafers gaiTvaliswinebs.
mTavaria,
ugunurs
ar
hqondes saSualeba, mudmivad
darCes
xelisuflebaSi
arCevnebis gareSe.
axla jerjerobiT
rac mTavaria, me vxedav, rom
arCevnebi
normalurad
Catarda
da
momavali
arCevnebic rom kargad
flebaSi iyos. xelisuflebaSi yofnas aqvs gadawyvetilebebis miRebis xibli.
magram es exeba xelisuflebis im nawils,
romelic uSualod aris
damokidebuli mosaxleobaze,
romelmac pirdapir airCia
isini.
samwuxarod, Cveni
cxovreba ise wavida, rom parlamenti didwilad damokidebuli iyo biZina ivaniSvilze da ara sakuTari
Tavze. amitom isini SeiZleba
damoukideblad ver grZnoben
Tavs.
damoukidebeli adamiani ufro metad ecdebo-
Catardeba, esec cxadia.
da, Tavi moewonebina amomrCevlisTvis da ar gadaedga
arapopularuli nabijebi.
magram ai, Semdegi arCevnebi,
rodesac ukve aRar iqneba
biZina ivaniSvili, _ am TvalsazrisiT Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo misi politikidan
wasvla, _ yvela sakuTari
gonebiT warmarTavs saqmianobas. yvela mixvdeba, rom
iseTi nabijebi unda gadadgas, romelic xalxs moewoneba.
sazogadoebrivi
politika aris Zalian martivi ram, Seni nabijebi unda
moewonos adamianebs. aravin
Tavi ar moityuos, rom arapopularul nabijebs gadad-
_ ramdenad
warmatebulad axerxebs
xelisufleba
sazogadoebasTan
komunikacias? araerTi
magaliTi viciT, igive
socialuri qselebidan,
rodesac calkeuli
pirebi ukmayofilebas
gamoTqvamen amJamad
parlamentis wevrebisa
Tu sxvadasxva
Tanamdebobis pirebis
sakuTar TavSi Caketvis
gamo.
_ xelisuflebaSi myofi adamiani unda cdilobdes,
ufro metad gaxsnili iyos.
Tu is, ra Tqma unda, dainteresebulia, rom xelisu-
gams da mainc airCeven. roca
aseTi raRac moxda, CerCilic ki aRar airCies.
_ parlamentis am
Semadgenlobaze,
umravlesobas
vgulisxmob, xSirad
saubroben, rom maT
akliaT
profesionalizmi da es
araerTxel aRiara
biZina ivaniSvilmac.
deklarirebuli da
faqtobrivi
araprofesionalizmis
pirobebSi ramdenad
produqtiuli iqneba
qveynisTvis
sakanonmdeblo organo?
_ me ar momwons es parlamenti imitom, rom kidev ufro
ukeTesi parlamenti minda.
erTi wuTiT ar minda, am parlamentis damcveli viyo, magram minda gagaxsenoT _
roca vsaubrobT, ratom arian es adamianebi xelisuflebaSi, me piradad Zalian kargad maxsovs da amis momswrec
var, rodesac `qarTuli ocnebis~ organizacia iqmneboda da damfuZnebeli kreba
imarTeboda, rogor Wirda
maSin 500-600 adamianis mokreba.
ar dagaviwydeT, rom
es gundi yalibdeboda im
dros, roca Zalian didi mniSvneloba eniWeboda pirad
gabedulobas, risks. ase rom,
dRes SeiZleba viRacebs pro-
fesionalizms uwuneben da es
zogierT SemTxvevaSi sruliad aSkarad Cans. magram kritikosebsac Sevaxsenebdi, rom
profesionalizmi garkveul
momentSi buCqebSi SeZromasac
ar niSnavs.
Cven SevZlebT, vilaparakoT, rogori parlamenti gvyavs, maSin rodesac
saqarTvelos mosaxleoba
yovelgvari avtoritetis
Carevis gareSe airCevs mis
wevrebs. es parlamenti aris
eqstremalur viTarebaSi arCeuli.
gaixseneT,
rom
arCevnebamde ramdenime dRiT
adre naxevar milionamde
adamiani idga quCaSi. es ar
yvela gadawyvetileba centridan modioda. Tumca es ar
niSnavs,
rom adgilze
araferi xdeboda. ra Tqma
unda, iyo calkeuli sakiTxebis SeTanxmebebi. magram minaxavs, rom yovelgvari konsultaciebis gareSe iRebdnen
gadawyvetilebebs gubernatorebi.
rac Seexeba axal
kanonproeqts, cvlilebamde
rac iyo, imas kargad vicnob.
unda giTxraT, rom Zalian ukmayofilo viyavi, ara imitom, rom CarTva mindoda. miuxedavad imisa, rom avtorebi ambobdnen, rom amis ganxilva gamWvirvaled midioda,
aris normaluri procesi.
normaluri arCevnebi unda
tardebodes daaxloebiT ise,
rogorc Catarda saprezidento arCevnebi. aseTive viTarebaSi visac airCevs mosaxleoba, Semdeg Tavad iqneba
pasuxismgebeli am kandidatebze.
vityvi, rom absoluturad
aragamWvirvaled warimarTa
da faqtobrivad, sazogadoebis zurgs ukan xdeboda ganxilva. Tan im moCvenebiTobis
SeqmniT, rom Zalian kargad
iyo yvelaferi.
guli mwydeboda, rom
am azris Seqmnas xels uwyobdnen
garkveuli
arasamTavroboebi, romelTac umuSavdebaT xolme
grZnoba,
rom
TviTon
demokratiis aznaurebi arian da ufleba aqvT, ise miiRon gadawyvetilebebi, rom
xalxs araferi hkiTxon.
TviTmmarTvelobis
kanoni uSualo sayrdenia
demokratiis. magram kanoni
_ ras gvetyviT
TviTmmarTvelobis axal
kanonproeqtTan
dakavSirebiT. miT
ufro, rom Tqven iyaviT
gubernatori da
rogorc ityvian, kargad
iciT problemis arsi.
_ roca gubernatori viyavi,
Cems dros TviTmmarTveloba
praqtikulad ar arsebobda.
11
ver
aamuSavebs
TviTmmarTvelobas, adamianebma
unda icxovron TviTmmarTvelobaSi. amitom Zalian
didi mniSvneloba aqvs, rom
maT gaigon amis Sesaxeb.
rac Seexeba kanonis
pirvel variants, iq Zlierdeboda gubernatori. is iZenda sameurneo funqciebs da
es iyo, Cemi azriT, xifaTi da
aris kidec, Tu ase darCeba.
imitom rom gubernatori
ganaxorcielebs isev did
proeqtebs da guberniaSi
mTavari moTamaSe iqneba, adamianebi ki masze iqnebian
orientirebulebi da es
rasakvirvelia,
TviTmmarTvelobis avtoritets
ver aamaRlebs. miT umetes,
rogorc proeqtSi iyo _
raionebi daiyofa ramdenime
municipalitetad _ es, bunebrivia, maT daasustebs
resursebis TvalsazrisiT da
finansuradac.
isini
masStabur proeqtebs ver ganaxorcieleben da adamianebisTvis SesaZlebelia, TviTmmarTveloba ar aRmoCndes
mniSvnelovani.
rogorc vici, cvlilebebi Sevida kanonproeqtSi. TviTmmarTvelobis
kanoni Tavisi arsiT qveynis
mowyobas gansazRvravs da,
faqtobrivad, mTel rig
SemTxvevaSi konstituciis
tolfasia, Tu meti ara. visurvebdi, rom aseTi iniciativebi ufro Riad da gamWvirvaled ganixilebodes.
sxvaTa Soris, es aris
is sakiTxi, rom vTqvi, rac ar
momwons. anu roca msjeloben
igive parlamentarebi da xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi, maT ar unda hqondeT gancda, rom demokratiis TavadaznaurobasTan gvaqvs saqme
da ise miiRon gadawyvetileba, rom aravis araferi
hkiTxon. miT umetes, rodesac rukebsa da municipalitetebis sazRvrebis
Secvlazea saubari.
marTali giTxraT,
swored es ar momwons, rodesac arCeul adamianebs, Tundac oTxi wliT, gamoumuSavdebaT es demokratiuli
Tavadaznaurobis gancda.
danarCens ki SevxedoT, ra
kanoni gamoqveyndeba pirveli mosmenis Semdeg, rac detaluri msjelobis saSualebas mogvcems.
Tumca davsZen, vinc
am kanons ewinaaRmdegeboda
im niSniT, rom eSinodaT decentralizaciis, me piriqiT
_ safrTxes vxedavdi imaSi,
rom es iyo centralizebuli
saxelmwifosken mimarTuli,
romelic TviTmmarTvelobas
did gasaqans ar aZlevda.
.
„CvenTanac iyo didi aqciebi magram Cven TiTic ar
gavanZrieT da isini Tavad daiSalnen”
„mec damisves kiTxva, rom Cems drosac Slidnen mitingebs, diax
rodesac Cven vatarebdiT did reformebs ra Tqma unda, iyvnen
iseTebi, romlebic aSkarad ukmayofiloni iyvnen CveniT da gamovidnen quCebSi, ruseTis kargi finansuri mxardaWeriT. iyo didi
mitingebi da me gadavdeqi da maT vuTxari - Cven gvindoda reformebis gagrZeleba, magram axali mandatis gareSe me reformebs
ver gavagrZeleb. aSin reformebis gagrZelebas saqarTvelos
mosaxleobis 54 % misca xma.”
mixeil saakaSvili,, saqarTvelos eqsprezidenti
komentari
“maindamainc “ burTic da moedanic” miSas unda dauTmos Cvenma xelisuflebam?”
“germaniis sagareo saqmeTa ministri, evrokavSiris ledi aStoni….
Cavidnen ukrainaSi da meidanze gamoCndnen da am JestiT Tanadgoma
gamoucxades meidanis evropisTvis mebrZoleebs… da Cven ???? maindamainc “ burTic da moedanic” miSas unda dauTmos Cvenma xelisuflebam da vinmes ver gaagzavnis solidarobis niSnad … Tu Cven aseve
evropisken ar miviswrafviT… Tu raRac Seicvala Cven ganZraxvaSi…
Tu…. Tu… Tu … Tus magivrad erTi Casvla sjobs !”
salome zurabiSvili,, “saqarTvelos gzis”
sapatio lideri
komentari
12 premieri
axali ambebi
daviT usufaSvili:
winaswar patimrobaSi
myof pirs aqvs
uflebebi, es
uflebebi aris
dasacavi yvelas
mxridan
parlamentis Tavmjdomare
daviT usufaSvili yofili
premier-ministris vano mera-
biSvilis gancxadebas exmianeba, rogorc JurnalistebTan
sakiTxis komentirebisas usufaSvilma ganmarta winaswar
patimrobaSi myof pirs aqvs
uflebebi, es uflebebi aris
dasacavi yvelas mxridan.
,,prokurorebi am qveyanaze
imitom arian, rom saqmeebi
gamoiZion da patimrebTan
hqondeT urTierToba da ara
ufro sasiamovno garemoSi
sxva Temebze saubari awarmoon. verafers getyviT, Tu
vin Sexvda baton vano merabiSvils, rodis Sexvda mas an
sad, romel dawesebulebaSi
imyofeboda batoni mTavari
prokurori. es me ar vici da
arc SeiZleba vicode. erTaderTi
rac
SeiZleba
giTxraT, aris is, rom yvela
patimars, winaswar patimrobaSi myof pirs aqvs uflebebi, es uflebebi aris dasacavi yvelas mxridan. amasobaSi gamoZiebas aqvs Tavisi
valdebuleba da uflebebi
gamoZiebisa da saproceso moqmedebebis warmoebis da amis
iqiT, Tu vinmes ufleba dairRva, arsebobs wesi da rigi,
rom amas mixedos”, - ganacxada usufaSvilma.
anka bazeraSvili
amudamo
TavisuflebaaRkveTili,
saqarTvelos
moqalaqe saiaT
ismailovic
didi xania
asaCivrebs mis mimarT
gamotanil sasamarTlo
gadawyvetilebas. misi
advokatis zurab
rostiaSvilis TqmiT,
isic udanaSauloa, Tumca
saakaSvil-adeiSvilis
prokuraturam,
garkveuli dainteresebis
gamo, es mZime braldeba
mainc SeuTiTxna.
s
zurab rostiaSvili
saiaT ismailovis advokati, advokatTa asociaciis aRmasrulebeli
sabWos wevri:
_ samudamopatimrobamisjili saiaT ismailovi 2007
uvado patimrebi
àm saqmeSi Careuli
iyo prokuroris
naTesavi~
saqme #.....
`Tu ase gagrZeldeba,
xalxi marTlac
Tavad daiwyebs angariSsworebas~
mailovs amdeni narkotiki
marTlac rom hqonoda, cidan xom ver Camoufrindeboda, Tu es marTla gaarkvies,
imas ver gaigebdnen?! saqmis
masalebidan Cans da aravin
uaryofs, rom lali gvilava
xSirad mgzavrobda ismailovis avtobusiT da aqedan
Sedga maTi ojaxuri nacnobobac. col-qmars kargi
urTierToba hqondaT ismailovTan. amitomac saqmeSi
Caweres, TiTqos man narkotiki misca jer lali gvilavas,
mere colma qmars gadasca da
bigvavam gaasaRao. es rac
mogiyeviT, lali gvilavam,
masze zewolis miuxedavad,
arafriT ar daadastura.
ismailovi baqoSi, reisSi midioda, roca daakaves.
zugdididan am reisiT mas
baqoSi unda waeyvana 4
pirovneba, maT Soris lali
gvilavac, magram sxvebi Camovidnen, lali ki _ ara. ismailovma zugdidSi gadaure-
moskovSi qarTveli
e.w. kanonieri qurdi
gaasamarTles
moskovis golovinskis
raionul sasamarTloSi 61
wlis qarTveli e.w. kanonieri
qurdi miron gorgiZe gaasamarTles. kriminalur avtoritets „mirikos” zedmetsaxelad icnoben. miron gorgiZe gansakuTrebiT diid
odenobis narkotikebis SenaxvaSi edeba brali. mas mosamarTle igor iakovlevma
mkacri reJimis koloniaSi 3
wliTa da 4 TviT Tavisuflebis aRkveTa miusaja.
SegaxsenebT, rom adre
araerTgzis nasamarTlebi,
quTaiseli miron gorgiZe
mimdinare wlis 20 ivliss
moskovelma samarTaldamcavenba daakaves.
gavrcelebuli informaciiT, e.w. kanonierma qurdma sasamarTlos mier gamotanili ganaCeni ukve gaasaCivra.
axali ambebi
#16 (016)
wels TbilisSi daakaves. es
sastiki ganaCeni ki, 2007 wlis
9 noembers gamoitana zugdidis sasamarTlom. mosamarTle, prokuraturis monamorCili da brZanebebis usityvo Semsrulebeli, daviT
kekenaZe gaxldaT. aqve vityvi,
rom
maSin
zugdidis
prokurori roland axalaia
iyo da iq rac xdeboda, albaT, warmogidgeniaT. vis daWerasac axalaia moisurvebda,
iWerdnen, viszedac ra sasjeli undoda, is gamohqonda
sasamarTlos da sityvis Sebrunebas veravin ubedavda.
mona-mosamarTle kekenaZes,
cxadia, es `piroba~ ar daurRvevia.
saiaT
ismailovi
saqarTvelos moqalaqea, warmoSobiT bolnisidan aris.
mZRolia, avtobusi hyavda da
indmewarmeebi, romlebic
baqodan Camotanili saqonliT vaWrobdnen, Tbilisidan
baqoSi dahyavda. misi klientebi iyvnen zugdideli colqmari vefxia bigvava da lali
gvilava. ismailovs brali
swored maTTvis narkotikis
miyidvaSi sruliad tyuilad
dasdes.
_ saqmis masalebis
mixedviT, ra
garemoebebSi Caidina es
danaSauli ismailovma?
_ ar Caudenia mas aseTi ram
da es faqtebiTac mtkicdeba,
Tumca prokuraturam aseTi
saqmeebis TiTxvnis meti ra
icoda?! daabrales, TiTqos
narkotiki man TbilisSi SeiZina, jer 10 grami, mere 20 da
bolos 36 grami, romelic
vefxia bigvavas mihyida. ar
aris aRniSnuli, ra viTarebaSi SeiZina Tavad ismailovma es narkotiki, ubralod,
Caweres, rom daudgenel viTarebaSi SeiZina da mere mihyida vefxia bigvavaso. is-
#16 (016)
premieri
ka mas da maSin gaigo, ra
SeemTxva col-qmars. dedamisma uTxra, rom lali da misi
qmari daapatimres. ismailovi
baqoSi roca wavida, misTvis
ukve cnobili iyo bigvavasa
da gvilavas dapatimrebis
Sesaxeb da warmoidgineT, mas
marTlac rom hqonoda xeli
aseT
saqmeSi
gareuli,
amjerad ratom gariskavda,
igive gaekeTebina?! ukan dabrunebisas uproblemod gadmolaxa azerbaijanis sazRvari. mogexsenebaT, sazRvarze hyavT narkotikis sunze
dageSili,
maZebari
kokespanielebi. azerbaijanis
mxares avtobusi Tavidan bolomde yvela meTodiT
gaCxrikes, magram iq narkotiki aravis aRmouCenia.
saqarTvelos sazRvarze,
ZaRlis meSveobiTac eZebes da
arc iq aRmoCenila aranairi
narkotiki, magram amis Semdeg
kidev movidnen policiis
sxva TanamSromlebi da ukve
maT daiwyes avtobusis qeqva.
erT-erTma maTganma ismailovs fexic ki Caartya da
uTxra, ukan gadio. is ukan
gaiyvanes, erT-erTi ki
TiTqos saWes Slida da iq
naxa 0,96 grami narkotiki. sinamdvileSi maT Cades es iq
da Tavadve amoiRes. dakavebis Semdgom ki ismailovs erT
epizodSi 10 grami narkotikis
miyidva dasdes bralad, meore epizodSi _ 20 gramis,
mesameSi ki 36 gramis da ise,
rom mtkicebulebebi ar hqoniaT, umZimesi braldebiT
gauSves cixeSi
ra bedi ewiaT, maT ra
ganaCeni gamoutanes?
_ ki magram, ar
eubnebodnen, es
informaciebi saidan
movitaneTo?
_ es sasamarTlos
lafsusia?
_ ris gamoc moxda es yvelaferi,
bolomde
ver
getyviT, radgan exeba erTerT ojaxs. mxolod imis Tqma
SemiZlia, rom ismailovs veravin ver `CauSvebda~, radgan sinamdvileSi, mas narkotikTan aranairi Sexeba ar
hqonia. mas am reisebiT isedac kargi Semosavali hqonda da aseTi binZuri saqmis
gakeTeba aRar sWirdeboda.
erT metad saintereso faqts
getyviT, saiaT ismailovis
damWeri erT-erTi policieli, am ambidan erT TveSi
narkotikebis realizaciisTvis daakaves. am saqmeSi ki
Careuli iyvnen koxta kodua
da misi megobrebi.
_ bigvavasa da gvilavas
_ gvilava sasamarTlozec
acxadebda, rom ismailovs
misTvis aranairi narkotiki
ar miuyidia, Tumca imasac
ambobda, rom misi meuRle
narkotikis momxmarebeli
marTlac iyo. mas icavda
policiis mona-morCili advokati xevsuriani, romelic
gvilavas magivrad pasuxobda
bevr kiTxvas. Cven dakiTxvis
dros misi pasuxebi moviTxoveT da man ismailovTan am
saxis urTierToba kategoriulad uaryo. prokuraturis
versiiT, bigvavam narkotiki
TiTqos vinme jambul maniaze
gaasaRa, magram manac uaryo
es ambavi. Tqva, narkotiki
erTad gagvikeTebia, magram
CemTvis ar mouyidiao.
miuxedavad am yvelafrisa, mosamarTle daviT
kekenaZem, samudamo patimrobis garda, 150 aTasi laric
daakisra jarimis saxiT saiaT
ismailovs, magram es ganaCenis gamocxadebis dros ar
Tqva. mxolod maSin gavigeT
amis Sesaxeb, roca ganaCeni
CavibareT. adamians misces
mudmivi patimroba, aravin
uwyis amis Semdeg odesme cixidan gamova Tu ara da Tan
150 aTasi laris gadaxdasac
akisreb saxelmwifos sasargeblod. rogori tvingayinuli
da gulgaciebuli unda iyo,
es rom gaakeTo, magram mona
mosamarTleebi amaze metsac
iRebdnen sakuTar Tavze,
oRond prokuraturisTvis
esiamovnebinaT.
_ usindiso adamians SeuZlia mxolod amis gakeTeba.
prokuraturisgan mosamarTle kekenaZe, etyoba, ise iyo
daSinebuli, sakuTar Crdilsac ki ufrTxoda. es lafsusi ki ara, monobusia, rac
monobaSi myof patara kacs
niSnavs.
_ ratom iyo idefiqsi
prokuraturisTvis da
policiisTvis
ismailovis dapatimreba,
samudamod cixeSi
gamoketva, Tu is
sruliad udanaSaulo
iyo, mainc ver gavige?!
_ am saqmeSi Careuli iyo
prokuroris naTesavi, amitom vinmesTvis es saqme bolomde unda daebralebinaT,
is rom mSralad gamosuliyo.
mxolod amis Tqma SemiZlia
amjerad, ismailovi marTla
udanaSauloa.
roca adamians akaveben, kanoniT valdebulebi
arian, auxsnan, risTvis xdeba
misi dapatimreba, magram ismailovisTvis dakavebis oqmi
ar gadauciaT. sabraldebo
daskvna ar miuciaT, naTargmni ganaCeni azerbaijanul
enaze ar Caubarebia. wesiT,
maT, aseve, unda eTargmnaT es
periodi zugdidis cixeSi
isxdnen da iq mouwiaT erTmaneTTan Sexvedrac. gvilavam
mas pirdapir uTxra, maiZuleben, xeli dagadoo. meubnebian, cixeSi dagalpobT,
rasac geubnebiT, imas Tu ar
gaakeTebo.
_ nacionaluri
xelisufleba ase
advilad ratom wiravda
kargad gagvacura. xalxs imedi hqonda, rom samarTali
izeimebda. am usindiso nacionalebma zogs qoneba
waarTves, zogs _ fuli, zogs
udanaSaulod miusajes mudmivi patimroba da nel-nela
xom unda daiwyos am ukanonobis gamosworeba? reJimisgan
dazaralebul adamianebs sakuTari qoneba xom unda
13
axali ambebi
giga bokeria:
vano merabiSvilisa
da zurab
WiaberaSvilis saqme
paralmentis
sagamoZiebo komisias
unda gadaeces
uSiSroebis sabWos yofili
mdivani da ,,nacmoZraobis”
wevri giga bokeria miiCnevs,
rom yofili premieris vano
merabiSvilisa da kaxeTis
yofili
gubernatoris
zurab WiaberaSvilis saqme
paralmentis sagamoZiebo
yvelaferi da ise gadaecaT,
radgan man mxolod azerbaijanuli ena icoda, magram
arc kanoni da arc ismailovi
arafrad ar Caagdes. mis Tavs
yvelaferi kanondarRveviT
moxda da axlac ase zis cixeSi samudamopatimrobamisjili.
am saqmis gamomZiebeli gaxldaT vinme laziSvili.
roca saqmis masalebi movTxove, ar momca, mere ki Cems
wvalebazec gadavida, nawili
momca da mTlian masalebze
pirdapir ganmicxada, ar gaZlev da rac ginda is qenio.
avdeqi da viCivle. mainc mivaRwie da yvela masala Cavigde xelSi. hoda, metad ucnauri ram aRmovaCine am
masalebSi. es iyo saqmis gayalbebis TvalnaTeli magaliTi. masalebSi aRmoCnda erTi
da igive ricxviT da saaTiT
gatarebuli ismailovis dakiTxvis ori oqmi. erTSi ewera, rom man narkotiki martsa da aprilSi gaasaRa, meoreSi ki _ mais-ivnisSio.
rogorc Cans, daaviwydaT,
pirvel yalb oqmSi ra Caweres
da meore oqmSi sul sxva ram
amitomac weria. amaze metad
rogor unda gaeyalbebinaT
saqme?! sasamarTlo proceszec bevri ram ar dadgenila, Tumca miuxedavad amisa,
daviT kekeliZem prokuraturisa da policiis davaleba zedmiwevniT Seasrula da
usindisod, mudmivi patimroba miusaja ismailovs. lali
gvilava da ismailovi, erTi
adamianebs samudamod
cixeSi gamosaketad?!
ratom uTiTxnidnen
udanaSaulo adamianebs
mZime braldebebs?
mxolod imitom rom
bevri patimari
hyolodaT da sakuTari
ZlierebiT
damtkbariyvnen?
_ maT undodaT sazogadoebisTvis daemtkicebinaT,
rom Zalian magrebi iyvnen.
bevri danaSaulis gaxsnac
piaris erT-erTi nawili iyo.
es xalxze marTlac moqmedebda. im periodSi sxvadasxva
qveynidan
advokatebi
mirekavdnen da meubnebodnen,
batono zura, Tqveni qveyana
ayvavebula da samuSaod mand
gvinda Camosvlao. vumtkicebdi, rom ayvavebuli ki ara
daqceuli iyo, magram zogs
Tu vajerebdi, zogi mainc
eWviT ismenda Cems naTqvams.
iseT reklamebs ukeTebdnen
yvelafers,
saqarTvelo
msoflioSi pirveli qveyana
gegonebodaT. sinamdvileSi
saqarTveloSi samarTali ki
ara, miSas banda zeobda da
`gulaobda~.
_ axla xom Seicvala
xelisufleba, ar Civis
ismailovi, Tu is
marTla udanaSauloa,
rom misi saqmis
gadaxedvac moxdes? ar
moiTxovs, mis mimarT
samarTali aRdges?
_ bolos rom vnaxe, me-6
dawesebulebaSi hyavdaT.
rogor ar Civis, mec vCivi,
magram am xelisuflebamac
daubrunon?! Camoiyvanon miSa
amerikidan, sxva `nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrebi
Sekribon da azRvevinon yvelaferi, es rTuli ratom
aris axali xelisuflebisTvis, ar mesmis. laziSvilisnairma gamyalbebelma gamomZieblebma, kekenaZisnairma
mosamarTleebma
da
prokurorebma pasuxi unda
agon imis gamo, rac maT xalxis winaSe nebiT, SiSiTa Tu
ZaldatanebiT Caidines, magram, samwuxarod, gayalbebuli saqmeebis Seswavla jer
azradac aravis mosdis, es
xalxi ki cixeSi suls Rafavs.
aseTi gulgriloba rogor
SeiZleba?! roca zugdidSi
mowmeebis dakiTxvas vaxdendi,
ramdenime advokatma isic ki
miTxra, rogor bedav, rogor
ar geSinia axalaiasi, rolandi aucileblad dagiWers,
giJi xom ar xaro?! advokatebic ki SiSis qveS iyvnen da
warmoidgineT, adamianis
ufleba rogor iyo fexqveS
gaTelili. am saqmeebis gadasaxedad aucileblad unda
Sedges komisia da man Seiswavlos yvelaferi. es Tu ar
moxdeba, maSin is miTxariT,
saidan daubrundeba xalxs xelisuflebisadmi rwmena da samarTlianobis aRdgenis imedi?! Tu ase gagrZeldeba, xalxi
marTlac Tavad daiwyebs angariSsworebas im adamianebTan, vinc am dReSi CayaraT.
situacia ukontrolo gaxdeba da axalma xelisuflebam
mere es sxvas ar daabralos.
komisias unda gadaeces.
,,mafiozur, ZvelbiWur,
kriminalur garCevaze wayvana opoziciis lideris,
romelic cixeSi zis, aSkara
muqara da absurduli ,,garigebis” SeTavazeba normalur
qveyanaSi aseT dros, pirvel
rigSi, kmayofildeba advokatebis
moTxovna,
rom
sameTvalyureo kamerebiT
gadaRebuli firebi gadaeceT da vnaxoT ra moxda.
amgvari skandaluri da
safuZvliani braldebis
fonze gamoZieba unda awarmoos saparlamento, sagamoZiebo komisiam, radgan
aranairi ndoma am piris mi-
marT, romelic mafiozur
garCevebSi monawileobs da
opoziciis liders, romelic cixeSi zis mZevlad
aqcevs, saknidan Tavis kabinetSi mihyavs da iq aSinebs
da ,,akaCavebs” man ra unda
gamoiZios ar mesmis”, _ganacxada bokeriam.
axali ambebi
14 premieri
noemberSi qveyanaSi fuladi gzavnilebis
moculobam 208.8 mln lari Seadgina
noemberSi qveyanaSi Semosuli fuladi gzavnilebis nakadebis moculobam 124.4 mln aSS dolari, anu 208.8 mln lari
Seadgina, rac 13.9 mln aSS dolariT (25.2 mln lariT), anu 12.6
procentiT metia 2012 wlis noembris analogiur
maCvenebelze.seb-is informaciiT, ucxoeTidan saqarTveloSi fuladi gzavnilebis 93.3 procenti
im 12 umsxviles donor qveyanaze modis, saidanac aseTi gzavnilebis moculobam noemberSi 1 mln
aSS dolars gadaaWarba. imave 12 qveyanaze gasuli wlis noemberSi mTeli fuladi gzavnilebis
94.8 procenti modioda.
#16 (016)
aWaraSi Seqmnili forsmaJoruli viTarebis gamo,
mewarmeTa nawili jarimisagan gaTavisufldeba
„9-14 dekembers, didTovlobis gamo, aWaris regions eleqtroenergia
SeferxebebiT miewodeboda. eleqtroenergiis etapobrivad aRdgenis paralelurad, sakontrolo Sesyidvebis procesSi dafiqsirda araerTi samarTaldarRveva da, Sesabamisad, gamoiwera samarTaldarRvevis oqmebi. Tumca, forsmaJoruli viTarebis gaTvaliswinebiT, Semosavlebis samsaxuris gadawyvetilebiT, gadamxdelebi,
romlebic 9-14 dekembris periodSi gamoweril samarTaldarRvevis oqmebTan dakavSirebiT mimarTaven Semosavlebis samsaxurs, saqarTvelos sagadasaxado kodeqsis 269-e muxlis me-7 nawilis
Sesabamisad, keTilsindisieri gadamxdelis principidan gamomdinare, gaTavisufldebian dakisrebuli jarimisagan_ naTqvamia Semosavlebis samsaxuris gancxadebaSi.
`romel socialur valdebulebazea saubari qveyanaSi,
roca adamians samasxro 150 lari aqvs pensia~
yalibdeba socialur Zalad.
nuca mircxulava
p
_ 2014 wlis biujets ukve
uwodes socialuri
biujeti, magram gauZlebs
biujeti amden socialur
valdebulebas da ris
winaSe SeiZleba momavali
wlis am dros
aRmovCndeT?
remiers~
esaubra
eqsperti
ekonomikis
sakiTxebSi
demur
giorxeliZe
giorxeliZe:
_ Tqven jer kidev 2013
wlis dasawyisSi
xelisuflebis
yuradRebas miapyrobdiT
calkeul sakiTxebze da
aRniSnavdiT, rom maTi
gadawyvetis gareSe
SesaZloa, qveyana
sabiujeto krizisis
winaSe aRmoCeniliyo.
amJamad Cven biujetSi
daaxloebiT 800milioniani garRveva
gvaqvs. ra aris
aRniSnulis konkretuli
mizezi da arsebobda Tu
ara am viTarebis
Tavidan acilebis
SesaZlebloba?
_ im mdgomareobaSi, ra mdgomareobaSic Cven axla vimyofebiT, mTavaria, adamianebma
saqmianoba daiwyon. xelisuflebam ki xeli unda Seuwyos
mcire da saSualo biznesis
ganviTarebas,
radganac
swored es aris dasaqmebis
uzrunvelyofis erTaderTi
gza.
magram,
rodesac
Tveebi gadis da mcire da
saSualo biznesi suls
Rafavs, rodesac ar icvleba
garemo, rodesac isev dominireben wina xelisuflebis
mier Seqmnili monopoliebi,
romlebic importze arian
orientirebulni da saerTod
ar ainteresebT adgilobrivi
warmoeba, roca arsebobs maxinji sabanko sistema, romelic fuls ar gascems ekonomikaSi da Sekrulia privilegirebul jgufebTan da ar
dauSvebs axali konkurentunariani jgufebis gaCenas
_ aseT pirobebSi xelisufleba moqmedebs xistad da
awesebs TamaSis saerTo wesebs.
awesebs garemos, romelSic
konkurenciis maRali xarisxia da sadac adamianebs SeuZliaT TavianTi interesebis
dakmayofileba sakuTari
proeqtebis realizaciis
gziT. magram amis aranairi
saSualeba qveyanaSi ar aris
da, bunebrivia, ekonomikac
demur giorxeliZe:
`mizerulia saqarTvelos
ekonomika
~
veranairad ver ganviTardeboda.
sistemuri krizisis pirobebSia da es moiTxovs sxvanair
_ kompleqsur midgomas, er-
mxridan. Sesabamisad, erTerTi mizezi strategiis
ararsebobaa...
_ Tqven brZaneT, rom
dominireben wina
xelisuflebis mier
Seqmnili monopoliebi.
ramdenad sworia
biznesSi imaze apelireba,
romeli biznesmeni vis
uWers mxars arCevnebis
dros. ra SuaSia es,
zogadad, ekonomikur
krizisTan? biznesmens
xom unda, nebismieri
xelisuflebis pirobebSi
warmatebuli iyos?
_ ratom ar gadadga
xelisuflebam saTanado
nabijebi am yvelafris
uzrunvelsayofad?
_ saqme isaa, rom qveyana
Tian strategiasa da ara
calkeul
iniciativebs,
calkeuli saministroebis
_ saqme is aris, rom xelisufleba, Tu Cven dasavluri
tipis saxelmwifos vaSenebT,
adamianebis diferenciacias
ar unda axdendes imis mixedviT, arCevnebis dros romel
politikur partias uWerda
mxars esa Tu is biznesmeni.
magram saqarTveloSi biznesi
yovelTvis xelisuflebis
gavlenis qveS iyo da ar hqonia sakuTari TviTorganizaciisa da Tu gnebavT, sakuTari socialuri pasuxismgeblobis gancda.
biznesmenebi ufro
xelisuflebis msaxurebi
iyvnen yovelTvis, vidre
damoukidebeli Zala, romelic Tavisi moqalaqeobrivi da
saqmiani interesebis erTmaneTTan koordinaciiT axorcielebs da axdens zewolas xelisuflebazec da gavlenis sxva jgufebzec. Tan
ise, rom miRweul iqnas Sedegi. magram amis nacvlad, biznesi mzad aris, morCili
iyos, oRond xelisuflebisgan keTilganwyoba miiRos. es
aris yvelaze did sisuste
qarTuli biznesisa. modis
axali xelisufleba, is gadaanawilebs qonebas, Semdeg axali mova da is isev anawilebs.
aseT SemTxvevaSi biznesi ar
_ es aris joxi ori boloTi,
romelsac rogorc ginda, ise
moixmar. romel socialur
valdebulebazea saubari
qveyanaSi, roca adamians samasxro 150 lari aqvs pensia
da is socialuri daxmarebebi, romelic arsebobs, aris
mizeruli. adamians saarsebo
minimums, Semosavlis uzrunvelyofis saSualebasac ki ar
aZlevs.
socialuri valdebulebi ki ar aris bevri,
aramed mizerulia saqarTvelos ekonomika. katastrofuli ekonomika gvaqvs. momaval wels Tu 5%-iani zrda
iqna, saqarTvelos biujeti
wlis bolos iqneba 17 miliard 300 milioni. anu saSualoze ufro susti erTi
amerikuli firmis brunva
wlis ganmavlobaSi. amitom
ekonomika Tu ar gaizarda,
mudam aseT mdgomareobaSi
viqnebiT. Tqven warmoidgineT, 2014 wlis biujetSi 50%
xarjebisa es aris aucilebeli socialuri gadaxdebi da
ganaTleba. meore 50% ki qveyanas unda moemsaxuros. aba,
miTxariT, am qveyanas ra perspeqtiva SeiZleba hqondes?
_ am fonze biujetSi
administraciuli xarjebi
127 milioniTaa
gazrdili...
_ saqme isaa, rom es aris erTerTi, razec SeiZleba sayveduri uTxra mTavrobas.
rodesac qveyanaSi aseTi
rTuli mdgomareobaa, es
xarjebi SeiZleboda erTi
wliT gadavadebuliyo. aseve,
gaumarTlebelia biujetSi
deficitis zrda TiTqmis
3,3%-mde mTliani Sida
produqtisa, radgan es aris
survili, daxarjo imaze
meti, vidre gaqvs. sanam
ekonomika fexze ar dagiyenebia, amis survili maincdamainc kargi ar aris. kidev
erTi _ 5%-iani mSp-s zrdis
kvalobaze inflaciis saorientacio maCvenebeli _ 3,5%.
es ki Zalian maRali inflaciaa aseTi dabali zrdis
SemTxvevisTvis.
#16 (016)
premieri
siRaribis daZlevisTvis saqarTvelo
evrokavSirisgan 27 milion evros miiRebs
saqarTvelo evrokavSiris axali iniciativis „meti metisaTvis”
farglebSi damatebiT 27 milioni evros daxmarebas miiRebs.
proeqtis ZiriTadi mizania xeli Seuwyos saqarTvelos
mTavrobas siRaribis daZlevisa da socialur-ekonomikuri ganviTarebis mdgradobis uzrunvelyofis procesSi. 27 milioni
evrodan, 20 milioni evro sabiujeto daxmarebis saxiT pirdapir saxelmwifo biujetSi
iqneba mimarTuli, xolo 7 milioni evro moxmardeba teqnikuri/saeqsperto daxmarebis
proeqtebis ganxorcilebas.
15
saqarTvelos sagareo savaWro brunvam 9681
mln. aSS dolari Seadgina
saqarTvelos sagareo vaWroba 2013 w. ianvari-noemberi
(winaswari) 2013 wlis ianvar-noemberSi saqarTveloSi saqonliT
sagareo savaWro brunvam (araorganizebuli vaWrobis gareSe)
9681 mln. aSS dolari Seadgina, rac wina wlis maCvenebelze 4
procentiT metia. aqedan, eqsporti 2618 mln. aSS dolari iyo (20 procentiT meti), xolo
importi 7064 mln. aSS dolari (2 procentiT naklebi). uaryofiTma savaWro balansma 2013
wlis ianvar-noemberSi 4446 mln. aSS dolari da sagareo savaWro brunvis 46 procenti
Seadgina.
àn mivalT isev sekvestrTan, rac xdeboda SevardnaZis dros,
an mivalT iqamde, rom ver gaicema xelfasebi da pensiebi~
laSa nodia
p
remiers~
esaubra
eqsperti
ekonomikis
sakiTxebSi
akaki comaia:
_ b-no akaki, dolarTan
mimarTebaSi laris
kursis gaufasureba
Seafases ise, rom es
ryeva ki ar aris, aramed
es niSnavs, rom
investorebma dakarges
ndoba erovnuli
valutis mimarT. Tqven
rogor afasebT?
_ laris kursze moqmedebs
ori mTavari faqtori _ erTi
es aris wminda eqsportis sidide, anu sxvaoba eqsportsa
da imports Soris da meorea
kapitalis wminda gadineba.
kapitalis wminda gadineba _
es aris, sazRvargareT rom
yiduloben qveynis moqalaqeebi aqtivebs, imas
gamoklebuli qveynis SigniT
gayiduli aqtivebi. amaT
Soris sxvaoba aris wminda
kapitalis gadineba, romelic Semadgenelia sasesxo kapitalis bazris. anu bazris,
bulebebis Sesrulebaze. an
mivalT isev sekvestrTan, rac
xdeboda SevardnaZis dros,
an mivalT iqamde, rom ver
moxdeba xelfasebisa da pensiebis gacema. am viTarebamde
aucileblad mivalT, Tu am
mimarTulebiT viareT.
itom, rom qveyanaSi pirdapiri ucxouri kapitalis
raodenoba Semcirda. SarSan
Semcirda 200 milioniT da
welsac Semcirdeba, savaraudod, minimum 200 milioniT.
Sesabamisad, kapitalis sqemas
Tu avagebT, kapitalis gadinebam gadainacvla marjvniv, ramac ukve gamoiwvia
savaluto bazarze miwodebis gazrda marjvniv. aqedan
gamomdinare, radgan kapitalis wminda gadineba
gaizarda da es ucxouri investiciebis Semcirebam ganapiroba, lari gaufasurda
dolarTan mimarTebaSi. es
aris makroekonomikuri Ria
modeli.
_ es procesebi
gamoiwvevs produqciaze
fasebis zrdas?
_ Tavi am problemisa aris is,
rom Cveni ekonomika gadadis
axal realobaSi _ ekonomika
mcirdeba, rasac Tvali unda
gavusworoT. yvelanairi
msjeloba, rom gavzardoT
erToblivi moTxovna, gamovuSvaT meti lari da xeli SevuwyoT raRaca meTodebiT
xarjvas, yvelafers amas
mivyavarT inflaciur procesebamde. mTavari aq aris
warmoebuli produqciisa da
momsaxurebis moculoba,
_ es laris kursis
ryevaa Tu ufro
ekonomikis globaluri
problema?
_
es
aris
sistemuri
ekonomikuri
krizisis
maCvenebeli _ laris gaufasureba. lari rom gaufasurda, es aris imis Sedegi, rom
ekonomika mcirdeba, amis maniSnebelia es da laris gaufasurebam uTxra adamianebs,
rom ekonomika Semcirda.
akaki comaia:
`mTeli qveyana bombze devs~
sadRac es dartyma unda momxdariyo. raRaciT unda
mieniSnebina ekonomikas, rom
recesiul mdgomareobaSia.
sadRac umuSevroba unda
gaizardos. lari rom gaufasurda, es Zalian didi dartymaa importiorebisTvis. importiorebma izarales. meore mxriv, es gamoiwvevs im-
produqciis fasebze. garda
amisa, mTavroba atarebs aqtiur monetarul politikas,
magaliTad, erovnulma bankma Seamcira refinansirebis
ganakveTi, rac niSnavs, rom is
xels uwyobs, iafi kreditebis gacemas, rac, sabolood,
midis samomxmareblo bazramde. anu adamianebi kredits
imitom ki ar iReben, rom
raRac proeqtebi ganaxorcielon, aramed ipoTekiT
tvirTaven an yiduloben iseT
produqts, rogoric aris avtomobili, sayofacxovrebo
teqnika da a.S. es qmnis
moCvenebiT situacias, rom
TiTqos ekonomika ki ar
mcirdeba, aramed viTardeba...
sabolood ki miviRebT
gazrdil fasebs da met
umuSevrobas, rac Zalian
male gamoCndeba.
_ finansTa ministri
laris kursis
gaufasurebas, sezonur
faqtors ukavSirebs. ras
niSnavs sezonuri
faqtori da ramdenad
sakmarisi argumentia
sezonuroba?
sadac xdeba sesxebis gacema.
saprocento ganakveTi am bazarze _ es aris fasi, romelic realurad gansazRvravs
moTxovnis im raodenobas,
rac warmoiqmneba sasesxo
kapitalze. amitom wminda kapitalis gadineba gaizarda im-
romelic, samwuxarod, mcirdeba. amis maCvenebeli iyo
pirdapiri ucxouri investiciebis mkveTri cvlileba.
Sesabamisad, ekonomika rom
Semcirda, aman gamoiwvia es
yvelaferi da saboloo jamSi, aisaxa laris kursze.
portirebul produqtze
fasebis zrdas. gamomdinare
iqidan, rom mTel savaWro
brunvaSi 70 procenti importirebuli produqciaa,
es fasebze zegavlenas
moaxdens. aseve, gavlenas
moaxdens
adgilobrivi
_ sezonur faqtorSi, albaT,
igulisxma is, rom saaxalwlo
periodSi matulobs gayidvebis moculoba. adamianebi
danazogebs akeTeben, rom
saaxalwlo periodSi xarjebi gaaaqtiuron. Sesabamisad,
izrdeba dolarze moTxovna,
magram es SeiZleba iyos 0,50,6 punqti da aman SesamCnevi
gavlena ar unda iqonios.
magram, radgan axla SesamCnevia es gaufasureba, aq sxva
sistemuri problema ikveTeba da amas sWirdeba analizi.
rogorc Cans, finansTa ministrs ar unda, realobas
Sexedos TvalebSi, magram realoba sxvanairia. ufro metsac getyviT, rodesac biujeti, romelic isea socialuri
valdebulebebiT datvirTuli, rogorc arasdros yofila, es Zalian didi risk-faqtoria. faqtobrivad, mTeli
qveyana bombze devs. aseTi
biujeti inflaciis did saSiSroebas gulisxmobs, rac
laris kurss kidev ufro gaaufasurebs.
_ socialuri
valdebulebebi ra
safrTxes Seicavs?
_ es yvelaferi aris im winasaarCevno dapirebebis fasi,
romelsac `qarTuli ocneba~
eweoda da cdilobs, aqcios
realobad. amis gakeTeba rom
utopiuri iyo da cdiloben,
mainc gaakeTon, realurad
amis fasi aris swored is,
rasac Cven vixdiT fasgazrdil produqciaSi. es
sabolood xelisuflebas
ufro mZime arCevanis winaSe
daayenebs. Tu isini axerxeben
dRes valis aRebas, momavalSi maT ufro meti valis aReba mouwevT. es ar dasruldeba manam, sanam xelisufleba
uars ar ityvis garkveuli
tipis socialuri valde-
_ ra nabiji unda
gadadgas xelisuflebam,
gamosavals raSi xedavT?
_ xelisuflebam unda aRiaros rom is socialuri valdebulebebi, romlis gatarebac
dagegma, iyo mcdari. es ver
moxdeba. es SeiZleba grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi moxdes.
meore _ maqsimalurad xeli
unda Seuwyos ekonomikuri aqtivobis sakiTxebs. maqsimalurad unda gamonaxos resursi
imisTvis, rom, vTqvaT, Seamciros gadasaxadebi. aseve, rac
SeiZleba naklebi regulireba
ganaxorcielos. ifiqros ara
antimonopoliur kanonmdeblobasa da aseT sakiTxebze, an
regulirebis
sxvadasxva
meqanizmebze, aramed piriqiT,
sruli deregulacia unda gaakeTos am periodSi. rac SeiZleba metad unda Seamciros
saxelmwifo xarjebi. maT
Soris administraciuli. maT
ki piriqiT, gazardes xelfasebi da a.S. unda gamonaxos
resursi imisTvis, rom maqsimalurad Seamciros xarjebi.
realurad saxelmwifos ki ar
SeuZlia ekonomikis ganviTareba, sazogadoebis wevrebi TavianTi proeqtebiT, aqtivobebiT, warmoebebiT da a.S., jamSi,
qmnian sistemas, romelic, saboloo jamSi, uzrunvelyofs
raRac periodul zrdas. rac
mTavaria, xelisuflebam saerTaSoriso asparezze unda
agrZnobinos ucxoel investorebs, rom aq aris usafrTxo
garemo da kargi situaciaa investiciebis Casadebad. am mimarTulebiT unda imuSaos
maqsimalurad. es aris erTaderTi gza, rac uzrunvelyofs
swraf ekonomikur zrdas.
16 premieri
nika
vaSakiZe:
`safrTxe didia da realuri~
gega silagava
ki _ zRapari. rogor
fiqrobT, ramdenad
realuria, ruseTs
marTlac hqondes
analogiuri saxis gegma,a
is gacilebiT mwvave iyos
da Cveni qveynis
usafrTxoebisTvis
realur muqarebs
Seicavdes?
p
remierSi~
gamoqveynebulma
statiam _
`ruseTma
saqarTvelos
winaaRmdeg
operacia `ÁðèÒâà~
aamoqmeda~ _ Cveni
mkiTxvelis did
daintereseba gamoiwvia.
mxolod gazeTis
internetversias 20
aTasamde mkiTxveli
gaecno. niSandoblivia
is faqtic, rom
mkiTxvelebis umetesobam
sakmaod seriozulad
aRiqva is safrTxeebi,
razec gamoqveynebul
masalaSia saubari.
skeptikosebi ki arc
Cveuli cinizmis
gamovlinebas moeridnen
da arc qiliks _ amaT
vin moaxsena operaciis
saxelio. gamoiTqva
mosazreba imis Sesaxebac,
rom Cven sazogadoebaSi
panikis daTesvas
vuwyobT xels.
amavdroulad unda
ganvmartoT, rom
masalaSi warmodgenili
informacia aris
utyuari da Cvens xelT
arsebuli informaciis
mxolod umniSvnelo
nawili. aseTi saxiT
misi gamoqveyneba
sworedac imitom
gadavwyviteT, rom
marTlac ar Segveqmna
panikis safuZveli.
gamoqveynebuli masaliT,
pirvel rigSi, gvinda
xelisuflebisa da
Semdgom sazogadoebis
yuradReba mivapyroT
im realur safrTxeebs,
romelic ruseTidan
momdinareobs da
romelsac zedapiruli
ganxilva ki ara,
siRrmiseuli analizi
da sifrTxile,
sazogadoebis
konsolidacia
sWirdeba.
#16 (016)
_ ruseTi gaafTrebiT ewinaaRmdegeba yofili sabWoTa
respublikebis
misgan
damoukideblobis xarisxis
zrdas. es xdeba imitom, rom
dRevandeli
ruseTis
mmarTveli elitis dRis wesrigis erT-erTi mTavari
amocanaa imperiis ama Tu im
formiT reanimacia rac SeiZleba farTo sazRvrebSi.
dRes am miznebis misaRwevad
ruseTs amoqmedebuli aqvs
evraziuli kavSiris proeqti,
romlis Semadgeneli nawili
e.w. sabaJo kavSiris Camoyalibebaa. bunebrivia, kavkasia da,
kerZod, saqarTvelo am kon-
`ras unda velodoT konkretulad?
principSi, es yvelaferi sakmaod kargad
aris aRwerili Tqven mier naxseneb
statiaSi _ `ruseTma saqarTvelos
winaaRmdeg operacia `ÁðèÒâà~ aamoqmeda~
teqstSi moiazreba. evropuli integraciisken nebismieri
Cven mier win gadadgmuli
nabiji sul ufro Seuqcevads
xdis Cveni saxelmwifos
damoukideblobisa da suverenitetis ganmtkicebis process da, Sesabamisad, kidev
ufro miuRwevads _ ruseTis
gegmebs, imperiuli siZlieris
aRdgenis TvalsazrisiT. amdenad, radgan evropis kavSirTan asocirebis xelSekrulebis parafirebis Semdeg
Cven davadeqiT am xelSekrulebis xelmoweris, misi
ratifikaciisa da Semdgomi
amoqmedebis gzas, bunebrivia,
unda velodoT imas, rom
ruseTi am procesis torpedirebisTvis Zal-Rones ar
daiSurebs. aucilebelia,
moxdes Cveni sazogadoebis
konsolidacia am safrTxis
daZlevis mizniT.
_ isev `premierSi~
gamoqveynebul masalas
davubrundebi.
komentarebis kiTxvisas
damrCa STabeWdileba,
rom Cveni bevri
Tanamoqalaqe verc ki
acnobierebs, rom
kremli Tavisi jariT,
`gru~-Ti, rezidenturiTa
Tu agenturiT
Tbilisidan 40
kilometrSia da ara
sadRac Sors _ gnebavT
sxva planetaze. ra
ganapirobebs aseT
damokidebulebas?
_ jariT 40 kilometrSia,
xolo Tqven mier naxsenebi
danarCeni komponentebiT,
aseve, Tavad TbilisSic da
Cveni qveynis sxva regionebSic. safrTxe didia da realuri. is, rom zogierTi
adamiani amas safrTxed ar
aRiqvams, metyvelebs an am
adamianebis gonebriv sisusteze an imaze, rom maTTvis
saqarTvelos suvereniteti
Rirebulebas ar warmoadgens,
an, rogorc wesi, oriveze
erTad.
aRniSnul Temaze `premieri~ saqarTvelos sagareo saqmeTa ministris
yofil
moadgiles,
ìveria.biz~-is erT-erT
damfuZnebels nikoloz
vaSakiZes esaubra.
_ batono nika,
`premieris~ wina
nomerSi, im safrTxeebis
Sesaxeb visaubreT,
romelic ruseTis
mxridanaa mosalodneli.
Cven mier gamoqveynda
ruseTis erT-erTi gegma,
romelic saqarTvelos
mxridan
evromiswrafebebze uaris
Tqmasa da saqarTvelos
ruseTis gavlenis qveS
moqcevas iTvaliswinebs.
am informaciam
araerTgvarovani reaqcia
gamoiwvia, nawilisTvis
es damajerebeli
aRmoCnda, nawilisTvis
_ modiT, safrTxeebs
davubrundeT. ukrainaSi
mimdinare politikuri
procesebis fonze,
samwuxarod, qarTuli
sazogadoebis
mniSvnelovan nawilSi ar
aris imis gancda, rom
momavali weli qveyanas
marTlac bewvis xidze
eqneba gasavleli. Tqven,
rogorc
profesionalma, da
bolo TiTqmis 20 wlis
ganmavlobaSi ruseT.
“kodeqsis avtorebs saerTod warmoadgena ar aqvT TviTmmarTvelobis funqciaze”
„am kodeqsis avtorebs saerTod warmoadgena ar aqvT TviTmmarTvelobis funqciaze. maTTvis TviTmmarTveloba aris bevri Sekrebili adamiani,
romelic msjelobs milze, magram aravi ar fiqrobs, rom es mili unda
Caidos. bevri msjeloba midis gaxvretil saxuravze, magram aravin ar
iqneba, vinc am saxuravs SeakeTebs. bevri saubari iqneba asfaltze, magram
kaciSvili ar iqneba, vinc amas daagebs. daaxloebiT aseTi sistema aqvT
warmodgenili. maT ar aqvT warmodgena, rom TviTmmarTvelobis operatiulobas da TviTmmarTvelobis efeqturobas ramxela mniSvneloba aqvs.
moqalaqisTvis.
gigi ugulava,, Tbilisis meri
komentari
laris kusi gamyarebas erT kviraSi daiwyebs
“valuta erT kviraSi simyarisken wava. dolari evros mimarTebaSi serozulad moZraobas bolo 5 Tvis manZilze. Cven
ubralod amas miCveuli ar varT, radganac saqarTveloSi bolo
ori wlis manZilze ekonomika iyo gayinuli. amas ormagi mxare
aqvs ekonomikis marTvis kuTxiT da ara mxolod momxmareblebis kuTxiT. mesmis, rom es mtkivneulia, magram es Cveulebrivi
ekonomikuri mdgomareobaa. arsebobs rezervi da saWiroebis
SemTxvevaSi „erovnuli banki” monetarul politikas aamoqmedebs. dRes amis saWiroeba ar arsebobs.
emzar jgerenaia,, eqsperti
komentari
premieri
premieri
oTxSabaTi,18-24
18-24dekemberi
dekemberi2013
2013
#16
#16
(016)
(016) oTxSabaTi,
saqarTvelos
urTierTobebSi
Caxedulma adamianma,
gTxovT, kidev erTxel
ganmartoT, ra realobis
winaSe SeiZleba
dagvayenos ruseTma?
_ vitoveb imeds, rom ukrainaSi mimdinare procesebi
welSi gatexavs ruseTis imperiis aRdgenis process da
es Cvenc did Svebas mogvcems,
Tumca ruseTis mxridan zewolisa da destruqciuli
qmedebis safrTxe, ra Tqma
unda, mainc darCeba dRis
wesrigSi. cxadia, unda velodoT agenturis, mexuTe kolonisa da ruseTis gavlenis
jgufebis
gaaqtiurebas.
Zalian samwuxaroa, magram
aseTi adamianebis arseboba
Tavad saxelisuflebo struqturebSic ar unda gamovricxoT. ras unda velodoT konkretulad? principSi, es yvelaferi sakmaod
kargad aris aRwerili Tqven
mier naxseneb statiaSi. mosalodnelia provokaciebi
okupirebul teritoriebze
da saokupacio xazze, zewola ekonomikuri berketebiT,
politikuri SantaJi, eTnikurad specifikur regionebSi separatistuli afeTqebebis provocirebis mcdeloba,
ruseTis politikur orbitaSi Sesvlis `sikeTeebis~ intensiuri propaganda da ase Semdeg.
_ rogorc xelisufleba
gveubneba, abaSiZekarasinis molaparakebebi
sakmaod warmatebulia.
Tavad batonma abaSiZem
ganacxada, rom dasaxuli
gegmis TiTqmis 80%
Sesrulda _ saubaria
ruseTis bazris gaxsnaze,
aviamimosvlaze,
kulturul da
saganmanaTleblo
urTierTobebze. aris Tu
ara SesaZlebeli, rom es
sikeTe, romelsac
kremli soWis
olimpiadis win
`gvCuqnis~, xval da zeg
sakmaod did ekonomikur
da moralur zianad
daubrundes
saqarTvelos?
_ sakiTxavia, ramdenad warmatebad SeiZleba CavTvaloT
is, rac abaSiZe-karasinis molaparakebebis Sedegad gadawyda. Tuki yvelani vTanxmdebiT imaze, rom ruseTTan yvelanair kavSirsa da ruseTze
yvelanair, pirvel rigSi,
ekonomikur damokidebulebas
moskovi Semdgom Cvenze
politikuri zewolis instrumentad gamoiyenebs, maSin abaSiZe-karasinis molaparakebebis ZiriTadi Sedegia
ruseTis mxridan saqarTvelos mowyvladobis xarisxis
gazrda. aris Tu ara es warmateba, Tavad gansajeT.
_ rusulma mxarem
ganacxada, rom
saqarTvelos mier
diplomatiuri
urTierTobebis
aRsadgenad wamoyenebuli
pirobebi _ deokupacia
da aRiarebis ukan waReba
ararealuri
moTxovnebia. am
gamoZebnis mcdeloba centraluri problemebis _
deokupacia da teritoriuli mTlianoba _ gverdis avliT konceptualurad mcdari da strategiulad mavne
politikaa.
_ diplomatia ar aris
is, rasac politikur
avanscenaze
pirobebSi,
rodesac
okupanti
pirdapir
gveubneba,
arafers ar
gibruneb da
am realobas
kremlSi
cekva-TamaSiT
Seegue, bazris
gaxsnisTvis
madloba
miTxario da
a.S.
sainteresoa,
moralurad da
politikurad
ramdenad
sworia is gza,
romelsac maTTan
saurTierTobod
virCevT?
_ es gza arasworia, is
dezorientacias ukeTebs
rogorc saqarTvelos mosaxleobas, aseve, saerTaSoriso
sazogadoebas. okupantTan
da agresorTan, romelic
Cveni saxelmwifoebriobis
sabolood mospobas isaxavs
miznad, ormxrivi dialogis
gziT saerTo interesebis
vxedavT. Tqven wlebis
ganmavlobaSi kolegebTan
erTad qarTul sagareo
politikas qmnidiT.
nuTu, mTeli am xnis
ganmavlobaSi ar iyo
Sansi, ruseTTan
urTierTobebi
kardinalurad
Secvliliyo
ukeTesobisken? da Tu
ara, maSin ra iyo is
umTavresi problema,
romlis mogvarebac
mxareebs Soris
kuluarul politikaSi
ver moxerxda?
_ 20 wlis manZilze qarTuli
diplomatiis
erT-erT
umTavres amocanasa da
mcdelo-
bas ruseTTan urTierTobebis normalizacia
warmoadgenda.
qarTul mxares amisTvis Zalisxmeva ar mouklia da uamravi iniciativiTac gamosula. Sedegi ver miviReT. ver
miviReT
imitom,
rom
saqarTvelo-ruseTis urTierTobebis jansaRi dalageba da maTi WeSmaritad
keTilmezoblur reJimSi gadayvana saqarTvelos suve-
renitetisa da stabilurobis
mZlavr faqtors warmoadgens. Tu es Seni mezoblis
gegmebSi ar Sedis, bunebrivia, is SenTan yovelTvis iTamaSebs normalizaciis process, xolo sinamdvileSi misi
qmedebebi
sapirispirosken iqneba mimarTuli da asec
xdeboda mTeli am 20
wlis manZilze. amis
imaze ufro naTeli
dadastureba ra
unda iyos, rom
ruseTis federac
i
a
m
saqarTvelosa da
ruseTs Soris
jer kidev 1993
wels xelmoweril megobrobisa
da keTilmezoblobis
CarCo xelSekrulebas ratificireba
ara da ar
gaukeTa.
erTi ram
unda vicodeT: Tu didsa da
patara saxelmwifos Soris
urTierTobebSi did saxelmwifos marTla unda am urTierTobebis sijansaRe da
normaluroba, is amas iolad
miaRwevs. am Sedegis ararseboba moskovSi Sesabamisi survilis
ararsebobaze
metyvelebs mxolod. da Tu
ratom ar aqvs moskovs es
survili, amaze Cven ukve visaubreT.
17
17
axali ambebi
saiam `kulturuli
memkvidreobis
Sesaxeb~ kanonSi
Sesatan cvlilebebze
-s mimarTa
UNESCO-s
saiam „kulturuli memkvidreobis Sesaxeb” kanonSi Sesatan cvlilebebze UNESCO-s
mimarTa. aRniSnulTan dakavSirebiT saia gancxadebas avrcelebs: rogorc sazogadoebisTvis cnobilia, saqarTvelos
mTavrobis mier
saqarTvelos parlamentSi
wardgenilia kanonproeqti,
romlis Tanaxmadac cvlileba Sedis „kulturuli memkvidreobis Sesaxeb” saqarTvelos kanonSi da mniSvnelovnad icvleba ZeglisTvis Zeglis statusis
moxsnis Taobaze arsebuli
regulacia.
sakanonmdeblo iniciativis Tanaxmad kanonis me-17
muxls emateba meore punqti,
romlis mixedviTac - gansakuTrebul SemTxvevebSi, saxelmwifoebrivi mniSvnelobis
aucileblobis arsebobisas,
ZeglisTvis Zeglis statusis
moxsna (garda erovnuli kategoriis mqone an/da msoflio
memkvidreobis nusxaSi Setanili Zeglebisa) SesaZlebelia
saministrosTan SeTanxmebiT,
saqarTvelos
mTavrobis
winaSe samarTlebrivi aqtis
proeqtis inicirebis uflebis mqone uwyebis wardginebiT,
saqarTvelos mTavrobis gankargulebis safuZvelze.
aRniSnuli kanonproeqtis
saqarTvelos parlamentSi
wardgenam sazogadoebis mniSvnelovan nawilis uaryofiTi
reaqcia gamoiwvia. miuxedavad
imisa, rom kanonproeqtTan
dakavSirebuli safrTxeebis
Sesaxeb, sxvadasxva doneze
araerTi Sexvedra gaimarTa,
samwuxarod, kanonproeqti
dRemde rCeba gansaxilvelad
saqarTvelos parlamentSi.
kanonproeqtTan dakavSirebuli gamowvevebisa da
mosalodneli uaryofiTi
Sedegebis Sesaxeb, saiam dRes
gaerTianebuli erebis ganaTlebis, mecnierebisa da
kulturis organizacias mimarTa”, _naTqvamia gancxadebaSi.
axali ambebi
.
biujetis valis gastumreba momaval Taobebs
mouwevs
“ didi valis aReba da amiT sabiujeto xarjebis dafinanseba
arasworia. biujetis mTavar problemas Zalian didi moculobis
vali warmoadgens, romelsac iRebs saxelmwifo da romlis gastumrebac mouwevs momaval Taobebs. Cven vTvliT, rom mTavroba,
romelmac 1 weliwadSi gaxarja biujetSi arsebuli 1 miliardiani
usafrTxoebis baliSi, dagvakargvina daaxloebiT 1.5 miliardi
ekonomikaSi, gaerRva biujeti 1 miliardamde da momaval wels
apirebs 2 miliardamde axali valis aRebas, ar
imsaxurebs Cvens ndobas”
zurab jafariZe,, saparlamento umciresobis wevri
komentari
“nacvliSvili merabiSvilis winaaRmdeg Cvenebis
micemas mTavazobda”
“laSa nacvliSvilma saqmis mTavari mowmis ramaz sulamaniZis piriT
SemomiTvala, Tu prokuraturas vano merabiSvilis sawinaaRmdego
Cvenebas mivcemdi, Cem mimarT prokuratura sisxlis samarTlebrivi
devnis Sewyvetis dadgenilebas gamoitanda. es xdeboda 19 aprilis
aqciamde ramdenime dRiT adre. me amaze ra Tqma unda uari ganvacxade da Semdeg moxda is, rac moxda. me da vano merabiSvili aRmovCndiT cixeSi da dResac braldebulis saxiT miwevs procesebze daswreba.
zurab WiaberaSvili,,
yofili gubernatori
komentari
18 premieri
pirispir
rezo SatakiSvili
w
armosadegia.
axla, eqimi araa,
magram eqimebis
garemocvaSia
gazrdili da
namdvilad
akmayofilebs
pipiniur moTxovnas: kargi
ojaxiSvilia _ cnobil
kardiolog anzor melias
vaJia. wynaricaa _ misi
wonasworobidan gamoyvana
mxolod dedis ginebas
SeuZlia. `premieri~
dimitri gelovans ki ara,
nika melias
warmogidgenT rubrikaSi
`pirispir~.
Tanamdeboba _ mTawmindis
gamgebeli.
saxeli _ ori: erTi ZiriTadi
_ nika da meore espanur `pontSi~
_ xorxe.
diplomi _ ori: erTi aqauri
uSiSroebis akademiis, meore oqsfordis.
xarisxi _ ori: _ orive magistris - samarTalmcodneobis da
saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis.
braldeba _ ori: erTi `qarTus~ gakotrebis ambebze, meore
vakeSi momxdar ayalmayalze.
samsaxuridan
gagdebulia
_ orjer: erTxel kaxa lomaias,
meored xaTuna kalmaxeliZis
mier.
enebi _ eqvsi: TbilisSi
TavisTavad naswavli qarTuli da
zugdidSi TavisTavad naswavli
megruli, rusuli _ kislavodskSi naswavli. espanuri _ uSiSroebis akademiaSi naswavli, inglisuri
_ inglisSi naswavli, franguli _
umuSevrobis dros naswavli.
nika _ meezoveebis
ustabaSi
dabadebis dro:
dro 1979 weli.
21 dekemberi. stalinisa da saakaSvilis dabadebis dRe.
dabadebis adgili
adgili: saqarTvelo. ufro zustad: Tbilisi.
sololaki.
kidev
ufro
zustad
zustad:
sololakisa da mTawmindis gasayari.
kerZod
kerZod: WonqaZis 12. e.w.
`bozarJiancis~ saxli. es saxli
kulturuli memkvidreobis nusxaSia. am saxlisTvis, Tavis droze,
TbilisSi saukeTeso saxlis titulic miuniWebiaT. am ulamazes
saxlSi gadaRebulia araerTi
filmi, maT Soris `gazafxulis 17
gaelvebis~ Sveicariuli epizodebi. amboben, rom `qeTo da kotes~
ramdenime scenac, magram nika
uarobs da azustebs: `qeTo da
kote~ ki ar gadaiRes, CvenTan
kote, anu baTu kraveiSvili cxovrobda. am saxls hqonda da aqvs
didi ezo, sadac did dros atarebda patara nika. swored iq gamoavlina lideris unarebi _ Tanatolebs razmavda da... ezos gvida. kariera meezoveobiT daiwyo,
ufro sworad meezoveebis ustabaSobiT.
nika melia:
`didi ezo gvaqvs, bevri Tanatoli myavda da marTlac did
dros vatarebdi ezoSi, CemTvis
saxli iwyeboda ezodan da mezoblebi xSirad mxedavdnen,
rogor vgvidi ezos. ara marto
me, aramed Cemi Tanatolebic. es
imdenad xSirad xdeboda, rom
maSayirebdnen kidec. sxvaTa
Soris, am zafxulsac SevikribeT
ezos biWebi da davasufTaveT ezo.
axlac movaxerxe es, roca ukve
gamgebeli var~.
#16 (016)
pirispir
nika melia
gamgebeli, braldebuli, sasurveli
sasiZo Tu yvelaferi erTad?
TeTrxalaTianebSi
gatarebuli bavSvoba
daibada eqimebis ojaxSi. mama _
anzor melia, cnobili kardiologi. deda _ nana canava, aseve eqimi.
babua _ giorgi canava, saxelganTqmuli anesTeziologi da
reanimatologi. dRes ukve eqimia
nikas dac. mokled, mis garSemo
yvela eqimia, yvela TeTrxalaTiani.
`rogorc eqimi, mama yvelaze
nakleb yuradRebas me maqcevda.
ufro did yuradRebas uTmobda
pacientebis janmrTelobas, vidre
Cems janmrTelobas. mamas ratomRac egona, rom me aucileblad
janmrTeli unda vyofiliyavi.
deda amas ukve iumorSi utarebda mamas. madloba RmerTs, marTla naklebad mqonda am mxriv
problemebi, magram aTasSi erTxel xom iyo problema, romelic
eqimis yuradRebas iTxovda?~
Tumca gamonaklisi SemTxvevebic iyo, roca eqimi mama yuradRebas ar aklebda _ motexilobebis dros. Tumca, raRa gamonaklisi, es wamdauwum xdeboda _ nika
xan xels itexda, xan _ fexs...
yvelgan burTs dasdevda
yvelgan burTs dasdevda _
xmeleTzec, wyalSic, dasdevda
fexiT, xeliT _ mozrdil burTs,
CogniT _ momcros. 5 wlis iyo
CogburTze rom miiyvanes, rena
abJandaZesTan. rena abJandaZem
maSinve dasva diagnozi _ rom nikas
CogburTs perspeqtiva ar hqonda, anu nikasgan CogburTeli ver
dadgeboda. misi azriT, patara nika
zedmetad mouqneli iyo CogburTisTvis. CogburTze ramdenime
Tve iara da SeeSva.
`CogburTs rom gavyolodi,
vin icis, iqneb mimeRwia kidec warmatebisTvis. Zalian gamocdili
mwvrTneli ki iyo qalbatoni
rena, magram xSirad cdebian
mwvrTnelebi, xSirad uTqvamT
bavSvze, rom misgan araferi gamova, magram gamosulan _ Tan didi
sportsmenebi. Tumca, me mainc
vfiqrob, rena abJandaZe marTali
iyo...~
dadioda wyalburTze. magram
iZulebuli gaxda, mietovebina:
naxevarze wyali ar iyo, Tu iyo
da gaTboba ver xerxdeboda da
umeteswilad sportul darbazSi
uwevdaT varjiSi, nikasac moswyinda es fizkultura da lamis
hipoTeturi wyalburTi da mamamissac _ misi tareba.
dadioda fexburTzec da fexburTis mitovebac mouwia _
dasajes da gamoiyvanes.
`meore cvlaSi vswavlobdiT.
me da Cems Zmakacs skolaSi wasv-
la gvezareboda da movigoneT,
viTom fexburTze, varjiSze
erTmaneTs SevaskdiT da Tavbru
gvexveoda. warmatebiT gavasaReT
es tyuili. magram me woliTi
reJimi momisajes, tvinis Seryeva
`damidginda~, Tumca maleve gamomiWires tyuilSi. jer erTi, Cemi
Zmakaci saeWvod male gamojanmrTelda da dadga fexze da meorec, 4-5 dRe gavida, ar mayenebdnen da mec momwyinda es wola da
gamovtydi. im dRis Semdeg fexburTs aRar gamakares~.
mSoblebs fexburTidan ufro
imitom gamouyvaniaT, rom ar undodaT, nika fexburTs gahyoloda. fexburTze aRar atarebdnen,
Torem fexburTis TamaSi ver
moaSlevines, gauTaveblad fexburTs TamaSobda. roca saxlSi
agvianebda, mis Zebnas kancelariis ezoSi da ToiZeSi iwyebdnen da
poulobdnen kidec _ sadac fexburTs TamaSobda. fexburTis
TamaSi dRemde sigiJemde uyvars
da TamaSobs kidec _ roca dro
da Sansi eZleva. nika dRemde ver
inelebs, fexburTs rom Camoa-
Sores.
msunagi nika, karate da...
mama TabaSirSi
mokled, anzor melia fuls ar
zogavda da yvelgan atarebda nikas, magram yvelaze Zviri mainc
nikas karateze tareba daujda.
`Cems bavSvobaSi yvelaze popularuli karate iyo. albaT, imitom rom sabWoTa kavSirSi ikrZaleboda da malulad varjiSobdnen, sabWoTa kavSiri daingra da
es akrZaluli xili uceb legaluri da popularuli gaxda. imdenad moduri iyo bavSvis karateze tareba, rom mSoblebic amayobdnen da interesdebodnen. maxsovs, varjiSidan movedi, mamam
miTxra, manaxe, aba, ra gaswavleso, mec didis ambiT vanaxe _
dartyma bruniT. rogorc Cans,
cota `kargad~ davtrialdi da
xeli movtexe _ eqimi kaci marjvenis gareSe davtove, mTeli
Tve TabaSirSi hqonda xeli~.
daatarebdnen sportze _ energia da kaloriebi rom daewva.
sportiT uswordebodnen, erTi
mxriv, nikas celqobas (dedam samsaxursac ki daaneba Tavi, rom
bavSvebisTvis miexeda), meore
mxriv ki, nikas msunagobas _ bavSvobidan sigiJemde hyvarebia tkbileuli, namcxvrebi, saerTod
comeuli. umalavdnen, bevri rom
ar eWama da sul ZebnaSi iyo. ho,
kidev, ra melia iqneboda, qaTmis
xorci rom ar hyvareboda? hoda,
uyvarda da uyvars. tkbileulic
uyvars dResac...
dakvra unotod
mokled, dahyavdaT yvelgan,
mozRvavebuli energia rom legitimurad daexarja. ai, musikis
maswavlebeli ki Tavad masTan
dadioda saxlSi. ufro sworad,
jer TamrikosTan, mis dasTan dadioda da mere TviTon nikamac
moiwadina, fortepianoze dakvra
eswavla. am ambavSi, albaT, uCveulo arc araferi iqneboda, rom
ara erTi garemoeba _ batoni
nugzari dakvras notebis gareSe
aswavlida. meliam dResac ar icis,
`do~ sadaa, magram ukravs.
`batoni nugzari marTlac unikaluri adamiani iyo, saocari
niWiT dajildoebuli, notebis
gareSe gvaswavlida dakvras, xelis fizikuri SexebiT gvaCvevda.
marto CvenTan ki ara, misi meTodi rom gaxmaurda, yvelasTan dadioda _ Cems klaselebTan, mezoblebTan. notebi dResac ar
vici, magram dakvra SemiZlia.
_ anu, rame dokumentis
parafireba rom dagvWirdes, Salaxos daukrav?
_ namdvilad (icinis)~.
swavla, ardadegebi
zafxulSi erT Tves zugdidSi
atarebda _ mamis mSoblebTan.
meore Tves _ kislavodskSi, saidanac dedis deda iyo, gavaSeli.
kislavodskSi bevri qarTveli cxovrobda _ gavaSlebi, lobJaniZeebi, metrevlebi...
swavliT, 47-e skolaSi swavlobda, misi bavSvoba areulobis
wlebs daemTxva _ Tan movlenebis epicentrSi iyvnen, cdeboda
gakveTilebi, skola icvlida Senobebs. nika mainc pasuxismgeblobiT ekideboda swavlas. Turme
skolaSic ki ar midioda, Tu
gakveTili momzadebuli ar hqonda. mere ki dadga etapi, roca momzadebul gakveTilebs maswavlebels ar abarebda.
ìm wlebs rom vixseneb, ori
ZiriTadi problema maxsendeba.
erTi is, rom areuloba iyo da
meore is, rom imdenad arapopularuli iyo swavla da Semdeg misi
klasSi gamomJRavneba, tiraJireba, xSirad me da Cemi Tanatolebi
Tavs vikavebdiT moyolisgan. vicodiT gakveTili da ar vyvebodiT. imitom rom es karg tonad
ar iTvleboda. ara mgonia, msgavs
simaxinjes sadme earseba duniaze.
Cven davdiodiT repetitorebTan da iq vavlendiT codnas~.
profesiis arCeva,
imedgacrueba
repetitorebs rac Seexeba,
erTxans qimiis repetitorTanac
uvlia _ nikac eqimobas apirebda.
bebia ocnebobda, TeTr xalaTSi
enaxa nika: ò, rogor vxedav SenSi eqims, TeTri xalaTi mogixdeboda~. dResac axsovs bebiis sityvebi. magram ar gamovida eqimi
_ eqimoba arc nikas undoda da
arc anzor melias emeteboda
Svili eqimobisTvis. ar undoda,
nikasac sxvisi cxovrebiT ecxovra, Zili da mosveneba ar hqonoda.
`mamaCemis Semxedvares marTlac male gamiqra eqimobis survili, Ramis 12 saaTze movidoda
saxlSi, Ramis 2 saaTze urekavdnen da isev mihyavdaT, xan ramdenime dRe aRarc mohyavdaT.
dRemde erT saxlSi vcxovrobT
da kargi mamaSviloba gvaqvs, magram Zalian bevr sakiTxSi ver
vTanxmdebiT da me rom eqimi gamovsuliyavi, gamovidodi kardiologi, momiwevda mamas klinikaSi
muSaoba da Zalian garTuldeboda Cveni erTad yofna...~
sadac uTanxmoeba vaxseneT,
barem isic vTqvaT _ mama-Svili
gansxvavebul
politikur
poziciebze dganan. roca qveyanaSi politikuri Caidani metismetad TuxTuxebs, nika cdilobs,
mamas moeridos...
rac Seexeba swavlis gagrZelebas, skola eqsternad daamTavra
da Caabara teqnikur universitetSi _ saaviacio fakultetze.
àviakompaniebisTvis amzadebdnen menejerebs, romlebsac sazRvargareT unda emuSavaT kompaniis warmomadgenlebad. perspeqtiul specialobad iTvleboda da
Cavabare. inglisuri enas gaZlierebulad gvaswavlidnen, magram maleve amicruvda guli _
pirdapir umaRles maTematikaze
#16 (016)
premieri
pirispir
pirispir
gadagviyvanes da...~
quCaSi napovni
gamosavali
mokled, nikas swavlaze guli
aucruvda, qalaqSi isedac mZime
kriminaluri suraTi iyo. ojaxi
sagonebelSi Cavarda, rogor
aeridebinaT nika quCisTvis da ai,
gamosavali isev quCaSi ipoves _
nikas da, Tamriko quCaSi SemTxveviT Sexvda Tavis
Tanaklasel biWs _
acvenili biWi dadinjebulad
eCvena.
rogorc gairkva, biWs
uSiSroebis akademiaSi
uswavlia da akademias
Seucvlia. Tamrikom
saxlSi axali idea miitana _ nikac uSiSroebis akademiaSi SeeyvanaT. sabolood asec
moxda da sololakeli nika èqskursiaze~
waiyvanes gldanSi.
`manamde gldanSi
saerTod ar viyavi
namyofi, gldani maSin vnaxe pirvelad, Ria karis dReze rom wamiyvanes. momewona saswavlebeli,
kargi pirobebi iyo, im dRis Semdeg 5 weli gldanSi gavatare da
dRes, raRac gagebiT, gldanelic
var, magram maSin sruli Soki
mqonda _ geografiul-kulturuli. kursze 120 biWi viyaviT,
saqarTvelos yvela kuTxidan,
yvela
raionidan
iyvnen.
sololakSi dabadebul-gazrdili
biWi,
romelsac
mxolod
sololakelebTan, mTawmindelebTan mqonda urTierToba, uceb
aRmovCndi garemoSi, sadac mTeli saqarTvelo iyo warmodgenili,
gaocebuli
TvalebiT
vuyurebdiT erTmaneTs. sxvanairad vmetyvelebdiT, mixra-moxrac
sxvanairi gvqonda... am faqtma ganviTarebaSi Zalian Semiwyo xeli.
iq vswavlobdiT da iqve vcxovrobdiT, mxolod SabaT-kviras
movdiodiT saxlSi, yvelaze rTuli is iyo, rom marto biWebi vswavlobdiTo. maxsovs, erTaderTi qali _ eqimi iyo, axalgazrda
qalbatoni. gvtkioda rame, ar
gvtkioda, iyo saWiro, ar iyo
saWiro, yvela cdilobda masTan
moxvedras, rom naxviT mainc enaxa
evas modgma~.
xorxe melia
nika melia uSiSroebis akademiaSi `kaveenSikobda~ kidec da
rogorc ixseneben, arcTu urigod. swored uSiSroebis akademiaSi iqca nika melia xorxe meliad.
es ambavi ase moxda:
àkademiaSi aucilebeli iyo,
erTi ucxo ena safuZvlianad Segeswavla. yvela sxvadasxva enas
swavlobda _ zogi sparsuls,
zogi ivriTs. me inglisuris arCeva
mindoda, magram mirCies, espanuri
amerCia, _ espanuri enis xasiaTSic
jdebi da vizualuradac espanels
ufro hgavxaro.
_ anu, rame rom
yofiliyo, dazvervaze
espanelad unda
gagesaRebina Tavi?
19
daawinaures kidec _ saqarTvelos
aRsrulebis biuros Tavmjdomare
gaxda. da swored im periods
ukavSirdeba saqme, romlis gamoc
dRes sasamarTloSi uwevs xSirxSirad siaruli. `Cven warmoebaSi
gvqonda sasamarTlo gadawyvetileba, romelic exeboda
`qarTu banks~. gamoZiebam miiCnia,
rom aRsrulebis procesSi iyo
xarvezebi, Tumca mimdinareobs
sasamarTlo da darwmunebuli
var, yvela im kiTxvas gaecema
pasuxi da ar dadasturdeba is
braldeba, rac gamoZiebam wamoayena. ginda-ar ginda, es saqme politizebulia, sabraldebo skamze
vsxedvarT sami saxelmwifo moxele da 15 biznesmeni, marTlac
araordinaruli sasamarTlo procesia _ 18 braldebuli erTad,
ramdenad arasasiamovnocaa, imdenad sainteresoa. myavda bavSvobis megobrebi, skolis megobrebi,
akademiis megobrebi, axla gaviCine
sasamarTlo megobrebi, imdeni
varT, rom praqtikulad rogorc
skolaSi, ise davdivarT~.
_ diax, diax. ase movxvdi espanuri enis jgufSi da 5 wlis manZilze vswavlobdi. am jgufSi
yvela students unda hqonoda
espanuri saxeli da me viyavi
xorxe~.
didi Sari da qurduli
`razborkebi~ palataSi
uSiSroebis akademia iuristis
kvalifikaciiT daamTavra, magram
akademiis damTavrebamde iyo didi
Sari. rogorc axasiaTeben, tanad
da janian nikas yovelTvis sCveoda fizikurad susti biWebis
dacva da gamosarCleba. ver itanda, roca maT usamarTlod Cagravdnen. `namdvilad ar minda,
Tavis qeba gamomivides, magram,
Tuki aTjer miCxubia, aqedan cxrajer _ sxvis gamo. ar vici, ase
gamzardes, rom susti unda damecva, marTali kacis mxare dameWira~.
am gzaze did xifaTSic amoyo
Tavi _ `peskebze~ daWres. 20 wlis
nika axloblis qorwilSi iyo
restoran `sarajiSvilSi~. im qorwilSi erTi biWi meores auxirda
_ iyo gineba da ayalmayali restornis win. nika gavida da daaSoSmina. damTavrda qorwili,
stumrebi iSlebodnen, nikac megobars eloda, rom wasuliyo da...
xuTjer esroles. rogorc aRmoCnda, erT-erT daSoSminebuls
ar epitnava daSoSmineba-gaCumeba,
saxlSi wavida, tabeluri iaraRi
moitana da esrola.
èrTi tyvia momxvda welis
areSi. bedad, rbil qsovilebSi
gaiara da gadavrCi. arafer SuaSi
ar viyavi, elementarulad vecade
gaSveleba. faqti gaxmaurda, daiwyo gamoZieba, saministros maRalCinosnebi dainteresebulic
iyvnen gamoZiebiT, magram maSin
qurduli samyaro imdenad Zlieri
iyo, verafers gaxdnen. sabolood,
moxda ise, rom am saqmes arCevdnen qurduli avtoritetebi da
arCevdnen pirdapir saavadmyofoSi, sadac viweqi... imdenad susti
iyo policia, iqve xdeboda
`razborkebi~.
modulSi, Semdeg inglisSi
mokled, sikvdils bewvze gadarCenilma
nikam,
akademia
daamTavra da muSaoba modulSi
daiwyo _ uSiSroebis saministros
gamomZieblad.
`sagamocdo komisiis Tavmjdomare batoni malxaz salayaia
iyo da me da Cemi ori kurseli
samuSaod wagviyvana. TiTqmis
erTi weli vmuSaobdi~.
2003 wlis agvistoSi nika meliam SvebulebiT isargebla da
erTi Tve enis kursebze wavida
londonSi. merme londoni da
inglisuri gautkba _ gagrZeleba
moindoma, mamamac Seuwyo xeli _
aq politikuri procesebi `saSemodgomo TaTarasaviT buybuyebda~ da ar surda, nika am TaTaraSi
amovlebuliyo CurCxelasaviT.
da aRmovCndi portugaliur
restoran `nando~-Si. bedis ironiaa, melia moxvda qaTmebis
restoranSi
da
grilerad
vmuSaobdi _ qaTmebs vwvavdi mayalze. vwvavdi yvelafers _
frTebs, gul-RviZls, barklebs.
xan grilTan videqi, xan _ salarosTan. Tavidan magrad meTakileboda, mitydeboda, meSinoda,
vinme qarTveli ar Semosuliyo
restoranSi da ar venaxe. mere es
movixseni da bevri ram gadavafase,
bednieri var, rom es gamoviare.
dRes ukve sxvanairad vuyureb
aseT adgilebSi dasaqmebul axalgazrdebs~.
qals gamokidebuli nika
da inglisSi datovebuli
sparsuli `lavsTori~
2003 wels Casuli inglisidan
2006 wels wamovida, arada hqonda
dareka da nika moikiTxa...
am siyvarulamde ki nikas cxovrebaSi yofila pirveli siyvaruli, romelsac pirdapiri
gagebiT daumunjebia nika _ `15
wlisas mezoblis gogo miyvarda.
danaxvisas xmas ver viRebdi~.
konfliqti kaxa lomaiasTan
saqarTveloSi dabrunebuli
samsaxurSi kote kemulariam aiyvana uSiSroebis sabWoSi, magram
wavida kote kemularia, movida
kaxa lomaia da nika melia samsaxuridan gauSva.
_ ratom gamogagdoT
lomaiam samsaxuridan?
_ rogorc xdeba xolme, icvleba xelmZRvaneli da icvleba
mis daqvemdebarebaSi myofi praqtikulad 90%. aseTi ram mxolod
iusticiis saministroSi ar xdeboda da, sabednierod, arc axla
xdeba.
franguli, aRsrulebis
biuro da isev gagdeba
lomaiam nika samsaxuridan
gauSva, magram nika 2 kvira mainc
dadioda samsaxurSi, dadioda man-
mokled, nikam enis Seswavla
gaagrZela. sabolood is erTi Tve
wlebad iqca, nika kidev _ magistrad.
ìnglisurze adrec davdiodi,
magram siaruli da swavla, codna
sxvadasxva ram aris. inglisuri
praqtikulad inglisSi viswavle
_ 1 weli movandome enis swavlas,
Semdeg davamTavre magistratura
oqsfordis bruqsis universitetSi, gavxdi saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis magistri. madlobeli var
Cemi ojaxis, me arc saxelmwifos
davufinansebivar, arc raime sxva
granti mqonia. mamam marTlac
SeuZlebeli SeZlo, ioli araa
studentis Senaxva inglisSi~.
melia qaTmebSi
Tumca, nika melia inglisSi
muSaobda kidec, arc meti, arc
naklebi, qaTmebis restoranSi.
`gvirCevdnen, paralelurad
gvemuSava, rom ena praqtikaSi gamogveyenebina da ukeTesad gveswavla. sxvebi dadiodnen, samsaxurs eZebdnen, aqtiurobdnen. me
raRac qarTuli kompleqsebi miSlida xels, bolos Cemma polonelma jgufelma gamiwia rekomendacia iq, sadac TviTon muSaobda
iq samsaxuris dawyebis Sansi, magram... qals gamoekida, ai, egre...
moxvda gela Carkvianis gamarTul
miRebaze, naxa iq qarTveli gogo,
aRfrTovanda
da
wamohyva
saqarTveloSi...
`dRevandeli gadasaxedidan _
es iyo morigi, rigiTi gataceba,
magram maSin ase ar vfiqrobdi,
gamovyevi saqarTveloSi, magram
aq davrCi imedgacruebuli, ganvixible, Tan Zalian male~.
am rigiT gatacebamde ki iyo
didi, samwliani romani, romelic
inglisSi darCa _ nikas londonSi
gazrdili iraneli gogo, gazeli
uyvarda. ojaxi ar iyo maTi qorwinebis winaaRmdegi, gogona mzad
iyo, qristianoba mieRo, magram...
qorwinebamde saqme mainc ver
mivida.
àravin winaaRmdegi ar wasula,
magram mainc ar Sedga, albaT,
oriveSi gaiRviZa fobiam, rom
erTi kultura sabolood meores
ver gaugebda... dRemde gvaqvs
urTierToba
socialuri
qselebiT. lamazi periodi iyo
Cems cxovrebaSi...~
2008 wlis agvistoSi, omis
dReebSi, meliebis ojaxSi zari
gaisma _ londonidan gazelma
am, sanam, bolos da bolos, lomaiasTan Sesvla ar moaxerxa da
pirSi Tqma im yvelafrisa, rasac
fiqrobda. samsaxuridan gamogdebulma nikam frangulis swavlas
mihyo xeli, Tan `sivebs~ gzavnida
_ sagareodan uari miuvida, dazvervidan _ Tanxmoba, magram dagvianebiT, nika ukve aRsrulebis biuroSi muSaobda. Semdeg iusticiidan sasjelaRsrulebaSi gadaiyvanes _ probaciis erovnuli samsaxuris ufrosad. rogorc axla
ambobs, motivirebulic yofila,
reformebis gatarebis JiniT aRsavsec, magram xaTuna kalmaxeliZisa da nika melias gzebi Zalian
male, zustad 37 dReSi gaiyara.
melia axla kalmaxeliZem gamoagdo. kalmaxeliZis gamogdebuli
melia aRsrulebis biuroSi, Tavis
Tanamdebobaze daabrunes _
Tbilisis biuros Sefad da male
didi oqtombris
arCevnebis Semdeg
didi oqtombris arCevnebis
Semdeg, melia mTawmindis gamgebeli gaxda.
`rogor aRmovCndi ugulavas
gundSi? gigis pirvelad iusticiis saministroSi, amerikelebis
Catarebul samdRian seminarze
Sevxvdi, xelis CamorTmeviT
viyaviT samdRiani jgufelebi.
arCevnebis Semdeg, aRsrulebis
biurodan wasvlis Semdeg, kerZo
seqtorSi gadavdiodi, am dros
miviRe SemoTavazeba gigisgan. es
SemoTavazeba macdunebeli iyo
imiT, rom am raionSi davibade,
gavizarde, skola davamTavre da
meZleoda saSualeba, Cemi wvlili
Semetana am raionis keTildReobaSi~.
`la-trufe~ da isev
sasamarTlo
àrasasiamovno faqti moxda, im
periodSi Zalian iyvnen politikurad aJitirebulebi. am konfliqtis monawile qali cxovrobda `la-trufes~ win da
etyoba, rom dainaxa, iq misTvis
saintereso stumari _ preziden-
ti mivida, Segnebulad Cavida
ramdenime pirTan erTad. me rom
mivedi, prezidenti ukve wasuli
iyo _ maleve dautovebia iqauroba. im qalbatonisTvis, cxadia,
yvelaze saintereso prezidenti
iyo, magram veraferi moaswro,
SerCa vano merabiSvili, magram
arc vano ar ahyva da xelSi SevrCi me _ maTi sufris wevrTan
momivida Selaparakeba. Zalian
agdebuli toniT mommarTa, iyo
skrabezuli gamonaTqvamebi ara
marto Cem mimarT, aramed Cemi
megobrebis mimarTac... usiamovno
SemTxveva moxda, amazec sasamarTlo midis. mokled, am bolo
dros sasamarTloebSi imdenive
dros vatareb, ramdensac samsaxurSi, razec Zalian mwydeba guli.
is dro, rasac iq vatareb, raions
rom movaxmaro, bevrad efeqturi
viqnebi~.
20 premieri
#16 (016)
Ss axali
ministr
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gega silagava
Z
alian male
28 wlis Ss
ministri
aleqsandre
WikaiZe
Tanamdebobas
datovebs. WikaiZe midis,
da arsebiTad didi
mniSvneloba ar unda
hqondes, risi Sefi
iqneba momavalSi
WikaiZe.
`
mTavaria, man davaleba
sworad da uSecdomod Seasrulos.
profesionali kadrebi
rom `qarTuli ocnebis~ aqilevsis quslia, es yvelgan da
yvelaferSi Cans, avTandil
samTavrobo ojaxs
urCevnia, iseTi
kandidatura moZebnos,
romelic misaRebic
iqneba da 26 maisTan
dakavSirebiT
WikaiZisTvis dasmuli
kiTxvebis analogiur
kiTxvebs ar gaaCens.
`
Tumca es kiTxvebic ar
aris mizezi, ris gamoc Wi-
etyoba, ministrebis
umetesobas es
gacnobierebuli ar aqvs
da erTi Wiqa
politikuri Caic rom
ar dauleviaT,
sasaxelod miaCniaT.
`
Tumca isic unda vaRiaroT, rom premier
`
RaribaSvils sulac
ar sWirdeba Ss
ministrad politikuri
figura, romelic
damoukidebeli iqneba
da Tavisi
individualizmiTa da
sxva TvisebebiT
SesaZloa, gamokveTil
politikur da
sazogado figurad
Camoyalibdes.
`
miT ufro, im pirobebSi,
rodesac uaxles qarTul
politikur
cxovrebaSi
modad iqca Ss ministrebis
gapremiereba ivane merabiSvilisa da irakli RaribaSvilis saxiT. aqedan gamomdinare, saqmiani, magram araambiciuri da zviad janyaraSvilis damyoli kadria mosaZebni. samTavrobo òjaxSi~
araerTi persona ityvis uapelaciod, rom is mzad aris,
Seasrulos Ss ministris mZime, magram `morCili~ misia.
Tumca RaribaSvilma da mis
ukan mdgomma personebma kargad ician, rom am saqmes yvelas ver andoben.
mokled, RaribaSvili da
òjaxi~ Ss axal ministrs
eZebs. rac Sexeba aleqsandre
WikaiZes, mas ministrTa kabinetidan aravin agdebs, piriqiT, is RaribaSvilis kabinetSi axal da metad mniSvnelovan _ sasjelaRsrulebis,
probaciisa da iuridiuli
daxmarebis sakiTxTa ministris portfels Caibarebs.
Sesabamisad,
pirveli ministri,
romelic irakli
RaribaSvilis
ministrTa kabinetis
Semadgenlobas
datovebs, sozar subari
iqneba.
`
RaribaSvilis motivacia Ss
axali ministris moZebnis
Sesaxeb, swored subaris
ugergilo da uxeiro saqmianobiTaa gamowveuli.
saakaSvilis cxrawliani
mmarTvelobis Semdeg swored
subarma gaxada aqtualuri,
rom cixe qurdebisaa. xolo
saxalxo damcvelma uCa nanuaSvilma hamerbergis gulistkivili cixeSi qurduli
tradiciebis dabrunebis
Sesaxeb, arc meti, arc naklebi, mravalazrovnad Seafasa
da brZana, _ is, rom qurduli samyaro arsebobs da misi
adgili
penitenciarul
sistemaSia, axali ar aris da
amiT hamerbergs axali
irakli sesiaSvili:
`RaribaSvilma
`premiers~ parlamentis
Tavdacvisa da
uSiSroebis komitetis
Tavmjdomare irakli
sesiaSvili esaubra.
_ `qarTuli ocnebis~
xelisuflebaSi mosvlis
Semdeg yvelaze naklebi
pretenzia Tavdacvisa da
Sinagan saqmeTa
saministroebis
misamarTiT ismis. es
aris calkeuli
personebis (ministrebs
vgulisxmob) damsaxureba,
Tu es im politikis
Sedegia, romelsac
oRond ara
samoqalaqo seqtorSi.
Ss ministris wasvlaze
gancxadeba maSin gakeTdeba,
roca misi Semcvleli moinaxeba.
`
aravin ifiqros,
rom RaribaSvils
ojaxis `naTlulis~
mimarT raime saxis
pretenzia aqvs. piriqiT,
mas upirobod endoba
beriZidan dawyebuli, TiToorolas gamoklebiT, parlamentis wevrebiT damTavrebuli. Sesabamisad, Sinagan saqmeTa axali ministris moZieba
sakmaod rTuli aRmoCnda.
Sss-s generaluri inspeqciis ufrosis, zviad janyaraSvilis ministrad daniSvna, romelic isedac faqtobrivi ministria, sazogadoebis mxridan SeiZleba Zalze
negatiurad iyos aRqmuli.
amitomac
kaiZe midis.
axalgazrda Ss ministrma
araerTxel ganacxada, rom
misi daniSvna kidev erTxel
adasturebs, rom Sss depolitizebulia
da
aseve,
araerTxel gausva xazi, rom
Sorsaa politikisgan, anu ar
aris politikosi. etyoba, es
ivaniSviliseuli sibrZne
mTavrobaSi didad sasaxelod
miaCniaT, miT ufro im
pirobebSi, rodesac ministri
politikuri Tanamdebobis
piria.
saxelmwifo am
mimarTulebiT atarebs?
_ CvenTvis mTavaria, avaSenoT
demokratiuli,
demokratiul principebze
damyarebuli saxelmwifo.
iseTi, rogoric Seefereba
civilizebul da Rirseul
xalxs. amisTvis saWiroa absoluturad gonivruli da
samarTliani midgoma. ra
Tqma unda, idealurebi ar
varT, ra Tqma unda, gveSleba
kidec. magram mTavaria, rom
xelisuflebas amis survili
aqvs da amisken midis. rodesac adgaxar gzas, romelmac
unda migiyvanos Zlier saxelmwifomde, am yvelafers
sWirdeba Tanmimdevruli
midgoma da moTmineba. yvelaze didi problema am qveyanaSi, da es, albaT, Cemi prob-
pirovnebebze. Cven rac ar
unda sistema SevqmnaT, mainc
bevri ram pirovnebebzea
damokidebuli. imitom rom,
pirovnebebi marTaven uwyebebs, rogorc maRla, ise dabla. ra resursic am qveyanas
aqvs, isic erTgvari winapirobaa imisa, rom dasaxul
miznebs mivaRwioT. resursi
arsebobs da am resurs sworad SerCeva sWirdeba.
batoni biZina ivaniSvilis mTavari niWi iyo is,
rom adamianebis SerCeva icoda, sworad sazRvravda, sad
SeiZleboda maTi resursi, ganaTleba, gamocdileba gamoy-
lemacaa, aris moTmineba. gvinda, rom yvelaferi xvalve
gvqondes, an ufro dRes.
ra Tqma unda, bevri
ramea
damokidebuli
enebuliyo. vfiqrob, igive
RaribaSvilis _ Sinagan saqmeTa ministrad, alasanias Tavdacvis ministrad gamweseba
swori gadawyvetileba iyo da
#16 (016)
premieri
21
ri midis
araferi uTqvams. namdvilad
ar uTqvams, magram
`
hamerbergma aqcenti
cixeebSi qurduli
samyaros mier sakuTari
Zlevamosilebis
aRdgenis tendenciebze
gaakeTa da ara im
aqsiomaze, rom qurdis
adgili cixeSia.
`
ise, Tu ar daiWire da ar
daumtkice, Cveni kanonmdeblobis mixedviT ki, Tu arc
imas aRiarebs, rom qurdia,
maSin, neta, ras erCi?
subari rom sakmaod susti
ministri da ivaniSvilis
mTavrobaSi erT-erTi susti
rgoli aRmoCnda, amaze didi
xania iwereba. xelisufleba
imasac grZnobs, calkeul viTarebaSi cixeSi myofma qurdulma samyarom viTarebaze
kontrolis aRdgenis mcdeloba
ara
mxolod
sasjelaRsrulebis dawese-
bulebebSi, aramed gareTac
daiwyo.
vin vin da am xelisuflebam yvelaze metad da ukeT
icis cixis Zala. rom ara
`cixis kadrebi~, romlis meSveobiTac `qarTuli ocneba~
xelisuflebaSi movida, axla
koalicia SeTxelebuli SemadgenlobiT parlamentis
umciresoba iqneboda, romelsac umravlesoba yoveldRe
Seaxsenebda, rom isini òligarqis~ politikuri pirmSoebi iyvnen.
is simptomebi, romelsac
amJamad subaris `cixe~ avlens,
sulac araa gasakviri, samomavlod xelisuflebisTvis
metad saproblemo aRmoCndes.
`
qurduli samyaro,
romelic LIVE-Si Tu
SKYPE-iT nakurTxi
qurdebiT dawyebuli da
mayureblebiT
damTavrebuli dRiTi
dRe Zlierdeba da ara
mxolod calkeuli
sasjelaRsrulebis
dawesebulebis ufross
atrialebs Tavis Wkuaze,
aramed ukve gareTac
agvarebs situaciebs, misi
kanonebis mixedviT,
xval xelisuflebas
Zalauflebis gayofas
mosTxovs.
`
es yvelaferi kargad aqvs
gacnobierebuli RaribaSvilsa da òjaxs~ da swored amitom gadahyavs am metad mniSvnelovan da sapasuxismgeblo
postze `naTluli~.
`
rac Seexeba subars,
misi politikuri
momavali axla
xelisuflebas naklebad
aRelvebs, Tumca sulac
araa gamoricxuli, rom
isic samoqalaqo
seqtorSi wavides.
`
ukeT icis vin, sad, rogor...~
Sedegic dadga.
_ Ss ministrze,
aleqsandre WikaiZeze ras
ityviT?
_ aleqsandre WikaiZe axalgazrdaa. aqvs garkveuli
gamocdileba, RaribaSvilma
is uSualod saqmeSi gamoscada, endo da Sesabamisad, Cven
es ndoba gaviziareT. danarCeni maszea damokidebuli _
rogor gamoavlens Tavis
unar-Cvevebs. vfiqrob, jerjerobiT kargad arTmevs
Tavs. mTavaria, nel-nela mivideT im kulturamde, rom ara
saxelebsa da gvarebze viyoT
damokidebuli da saxelebi da
gvarebi ki ar marTavdnen
uwyebebs, aramed ministri.
CemTvis ufro mniSvnelovania
saministroebis funqciurad
sworad datvirTva, marTva da
kontroli, vidre is, ra hqvia
da ra saxeliT marTavs.
_ SegawyvetinebT,
ministrebi arian
politikuri
Tanamdebobis pirebi,
Sesabamisad, maTma
politikurma wonam
mniSvnelovnad unda
ganapirobos calkeuli
saministros warmateba.
_ ra Tqma unda..
_ am SemTxvevaSi,
rodesac Cven igive baton
WikaiZeze vsaubrobT, me
misi sawinaaRmdego
pirovnulad namdvilad
araferi maqvs, magram
mas ar aqvs politikuri
gamocdileba da sul
imeorebs, rom is ar
aris politikosi.
_ ho, nu... sasurvelia, rom,
zogadad, nebismier ministrs
gaTavisebuli hqondes politikuri pasuxismgebloba.
politikosad aravin davbadebulvarT. mTavaria unarCvevebi, mTavaria Cveni codna, ganaTleba da gamocdileba. da mTavaria, rom, rodesac xelisuflebaSi modixar
da maRal Tanamdebobas
ikaveb, gaTavisebuli gqondes
politikuri pasuxismgeblo-
ba. SeiZleba qveyanaSi bevri
kargi oratori ipovoT,
romelic bevr Cinovnikze an
moqmed ministrze ukeT Camoayalibebs da gadmoscems
keTil azrebs. Cvens qveyanas
rom Tamadebi ar aklia, mgoni, amaze ar vikamaTebT, magram yvela Tamadas ministrad ver davniSnavT. Sesabamisad, garkveuli balansi
unda vnaxoT saqmis warmatebiT keTebis unarsa da politikur pasuxismgeblobis
Soris. am kriteriumiT SearCia batonma irakli RaribaSvilma WikaiZe. mas, rogorc
yvelas, mTels msoflioSi,
aqvs gamosacdeli vada.
vfiqrob, am droisTvis is
kargad uZRveba saministros
da darwmunebuli var, momavalSi kidev ufro ukeTesad SeZlebs amas.
_ ar vici, gaiziarebT
Tu ara am mosazrebas,
magram amaze iwereba da
sazogadoebaSic aqtiurad
saubroben, rom
saqarTvelos mTavrobaSi
erT-erTi susti rgoli
sasjelaRsrulebis
saministroa...
_ susti rgoli?
_ diax, susti rgoli.
_ kategoriulad ar veTanxmebi.
_ cixeebSi `mayureblebis~
dabrunebaze araferi
gsmeniaT? an calkeul
sasjelaRsrulebis
dawesebulebaSi
incidentebze?
momxdar
_ es yvelaferi aris Temis
agoreba da meti araferi. is,
rom tradiciulad yvelaze
rTuli viTarebaa; is, rom
rTulad samarTavia da cudi
ufro xSirad Cans, vidre kargi _ Cveulebrivi movlenaa.
advilia yvavilebis baRis
movla, damijereT.
_ ver dageTanxmebiT,
arc is ar aris advili...
_ ho, ra Tqma unda. magram
zogadad...
_ Tumca Cven gvaqvs
informacia, rom
batonma RaribaSvilma
SesaZloa, uaxloes
periodSi gaaTavisuflos
batoni subari da mis
adgilze batoni WikaiZe
daniSnos...
_ verafers getyviT amaze.
es Jurnalisturi fantaziebi ufroa. vfiqrob, yvela
ministri met-naklebad kargad uZRveba situacias. am
SemTxvevaSi, sirTulidan gamomdinare, Cemi azriT, subari kargad uZRveba saqmes.
Cven marto imis analizs vaxdenT, ra Sedegi gvaqvs dRes
da ar imis analizs _ ra Sedegi SeiZleboda gvqonoda. is
`mayurebeli~ dRes ar dabadebula, Cemo kargo. is `mayurebeli~ daibada saukunis
dasawyisSi. Cven Tu gvinda,
rom axla subars davakisroT
pasuxismgebloba, rom sauku-
nis dasawyisSi dabadebuli
`mayurebeli~ mospos erT weliwadSi, araswori iqneba.
_ ar aaRorZinos sxva
ramea, batono irakli
da mospos kidev _ sxva.
_ amitom imuSaos, ebrZolos mankier sistemas da am
mxrivac muSaobs. ra Tqma
unda, yovelTvis SeiZleba
ukeTesi moiTxovo, magram
isic SeiZleba, rom uaresi
yofiliyo. vfiqrob, saerTo
jamSi, kargi Sedegia da
ukeTesobiskenac wavalT.
_ Tqven ki brZaneT,
Jurnalisturi
fantaziebiao, magram
araerT faqts
gagaxsenebT, rodesac
fantaziebad Seracxuli
Semdeg marTldeba.
aqedan gamomdinare,
gekiTxebiT _ Tu miiRo
batonma RaribaSvilma
subaris
ganTavisuflebisa da mis
adgilze WikaiZis
daniSvnis gadawyvetileba,
riT iqneba es
gapirobebuli?
_ premieri aris pasuxismgebeli mTavrobis saqmianobaze.
pasuxismgebelia im gegmebze,
romelic mTavrobas aqvs
dasaxuli, Sesabamisad, Tu
aseT gadawyvetilebas miiRebs,
es iqneba misi pasuxismgebloba, rogorc amas kanonmdebloba moiTxovs. is uSualod
marTavs mTavrobas da man
ukeT icis, vin, sad, rogor...
22 premieri
axali ambebi
rusTavelis
gamzirze, ukrainis
evropuli arCevanis
mxardasaWeri aqcia
gaimarTeba
21 dekembers 14:30 saaTze
rusTavelis gamzirze, „erTiani nacionaluri moZraobisa” da ,sazogadoebis sxvadasxva jgufebis iniciativiT ukrainis evropuli arCevanis mxardasaWeri aqcia
gaimarTeba. „erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis” erTerTi lideris giorgi kandelakis ganmartebiT, “erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba” uerTdeba sazogadoebis
mravali jgufis ganwyobas
imasTan dakavSirebiT, rom
ukrainel ers gamovucxadoT Tanadgoma im zewolis
pirobebSi romelsac igi
ganicdis ruseTis federaciis mxridan, raTa
ukrainam uari Tqvas evropul momavalze.
„simboluria, rom es movlenebi emTxveva sabWoTa kavSiris daSlis sakvanZo
dReebs. swored axla, Cven
vxedavT ukrainis ukan, sab-
`sircxvilia,
saxelisuflebo partias hyavdes
merobis kandidati, romelic qveynis
danawevrebas, daxleCas uWerda mxars~
`gamodis, rom ivaniSvili evrosabWos
winaSe tyuilad alaparakes~
miranda nabaxteveli
WoTa sivrceSi SeTrevis
mcdelobas. am gadamwyvet
momentSi, Cven valdebulni
varT gverdSi davudgeT
ukrainel xalxs, maT Soris
imitomac rom ukraina
saqarTvelos gverdze dadga 2008 wlis agvistos ruseTis agresiis dros.
swored amitom, erTiani
nacionaluri moZraoba, sazogadoebis
sxvadasxva
jgufebTan erTad, 21 dekembers
14:30
saaTze
rusTavelis gamzirze moawyobs ukrainis evropuli
arCevanis mxardasaWer aqcias.
dRes ukrainaSi saqarTve-
los bedic wydeba, radganac
ukrainis evraziuli proeqtSi ZalmomreobiT SeTrevis
ardaSveba bevrad gaaadvilebs mravali Taobis Cveni Tanamemamulis ocnebis evropuli da Tavisufali
saqarTvelos - erTxel da
samudamod axdenas”- aRniSna
kandelakma.
axali ambebi
`qristian-demokratiuli~
moZraobis wevri levan
vefxvaZe xelisuflebas
mouwodebs, regionuli
ganviTarebisa da
infrastruqturis
ministri daviT narmania
postidan gadaayenos da
Tbilisis merobis
kandidatobidanac
moxsnas. sakiTxis
irgvliv `premieri~
levan vefxvaZes
esaubra.
_ batono levan,
ratom iTxovT
regionuli
ganviTarebisa da
infrastruqturis
ministris daviT
narmanias
Tanamdebobidan
ganTavisuflebas?
_ TviTmmarTvelobis reformasTan
dakavSirebiT
Tavdapirvelad warmodgenili
iyo konkretuli koncefcia,
romelic araprofesiulad
iyo gawerili da ar etyoboda, rom masze eqspertebs hqondaT namuSevari. Sesabamisad,
sazogadoebis Zalian didma
nawilma gamoTqva SiSi im safrTxeebTan dakavSirebiT,
rasac kanonproeqtis pirveli
versia iTvaliswinebda. axla
miviReT iseTi situacia, roca
TviTmmarTvelobis kodeqsis
80%, praqtikulad, aRar arsebobs, kodeqsi daiCexa, Seicvala. e.w. regionuli gaer-
Tianebebi aRar iqmneba, aRar
iqmneba soflis doneze adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobebi.
Sesabamisad, gamodis, rom
TviTmmarTvelobis reforma
Cavarda. Tu adgilobrivi
TviTmmarTvelobis reforma
araswori iyo, romelmac Tavad `qarTuli ocnebis~ wevrebis aRSfoTebac gamoiwvia,
amaze vinmem pasuxismgebloba
xom unda aiRos.
_ Tumca sakanonmdeblo
organom
pirveli
mosmeniT adgilobrivi
TviTmmarTvelobis
kodeqsi ukve miiRo.
_ swored amas vambob, kanonproeqtis pirveli mosmenis
miRebis Semdeg iq aRar aris is
detalebi, ra formiTac adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis
reformis proeqti Tavda-
pirvelad parlamentSi gansaxilvelad Sevida. Sesabamisad,
ver vxvdebi momxdaris gamo
daviT narmania sakuTar Tavze
ratom ar iRebs pasuxismgeblobas. sircxvilia, saxelisuflebo partias hyavdes merobis iseTi kandidati, romelic
qveynis danawevrebas, daxleCas
uWerda mxars.
_ narmanias
Tanamdebobidan
ganTavisufleba
realurad ras Secvlis?
_ es aris politikuri kulturis sakiTxi, rac imas niSnavs, rom, Tu raRac ver gamo-
dis, maSin pirvelma pirma unda
aiRos pasuxismgebloba. ar vambob, rom narmaniam sisxlis
samarTlis danaSauli Caidina,
man dauSva politikuri Secdomebi, romelzec poziciis
dafiqsireba mouwia sazogadoebas, sapatriarqos, politikur partiebs, amitom aiRos
Sesabamisi pasuxismgebloba
narmaniam da wavides. maisSi
arCevnebi unda CavataroT da
ar viciT, rogor unda
Catardes, amaze pasuxismgebloba viRacam unda aiRos, am
SemTxvevaSi ki narmaniam. adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis
reforma jer kidev biZina
ivaniSvilma daaanonsa evrosabWos winaSe, Tumca im
proeqts, romelic parlamentma pirveli mosmeniT miiRo, adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis reformasTan
saerTo araferi aqvs. Sesabamisad, gamodis, rom ivaniSvili
evrosabWos winaSe tyuilad
alaparakes.
_ xelisufleba Tqvens
moTxovnas Tu ar
daakmayofilebs, maSin ra
Sedegs miviRebT?
_ xelisufleba, romelic
pasuxismgeblobas Tavis Tavze
ver iRebs da hgonia, rom ministrad daibada da ministrad
mokvdeba, am kategoriis ministrebi sad da rogor arian,
kargad viciT. ministrad
aravin ar ibadeba da kvdeba.
amitom skamebs nu eWidebian.
#16 (016)
axali ambebi
parlamentis
sxdomebis
gacdenisTvis,
SesaZloa, sanqciebi
gamkacrdes
parlamentis sxdomebis
gacdenisTvis SesaZloa, sanqciebi gamkacrdes - gancxadeba amasTan dakavSirebiT
umravlesobis erT-erTma
liderma, deputatma zurab
abaSiZem gaakeTa.
“am Temaze umravlesobaSi
muSaoba mimdinareobs. deputatebis
arasapatio
gacdenebTan dakavSirebiT
pasuxismgeblobis gamkacrebis sakiTxi dRis wesrigSi
“nacionaluri moZraobis”
wevrebis gacdenebis safuZvelze dadga. “nacionaluri
moZraoba” adasturebs, rom
is aris sruliad upasuxismgeblo Zala. umciresobis
warmomadgenlebi saerTod
ar dadian sakomiteto sxdomebze, acdenen plenarul
sxdomebs, aranaiarad ar
arian CarTuli saparlamento saqmianobaSi. umciresobis warmomadgenlebisTvis
namdvilad sul erTia Tu
sad iqneba parlamenti - TbilisSi, quTaisSi, zugdidSi,
Telavsa Tu qveynis romelime sxva qalaqSi”, - acxadebs abaSiZe.
Tbilisis
aeroportSi
aradeklarirebuli
valuta da vercxlis
nakeTobebi
aRmoaCines
Tbilisis aeroportSi
aradeklarirebuli 31100 aSS
dolari aRmoaCines. kerZod,
reisiT dubai -Tbilisi erayis moqalaqe ibrahim m.
Camofrinda, romlis bargis
da xelbargis daTvalierebisas Semosavlebis samsaxuris
sabaJo departamentis TanamSromlebma aradeklarirebuli Tanxa, 31100 aSS dolari aRmoaCines.
Tbilisis aeroportSi
aradeklarirebuli valutis amjerad qveynidan gatanis
mcdelobis faqti 14 dekembers gamovlinda. reisiT
Tbilisi - dubai, saqarTvelos moqalaqe levan m. mifrinavda, romelsac aradeklarirebuli Tanxa 72580 aSS
dolari aRmoaCnda.
saqarTvelos sagadasaxado kodeqsis 289 -e muxlis
me- 13 nawilis Sesabamisad
rogorc erayis, aseve
saqarTvelos moqalaqes sanqciis saxiT Seefarda jarima Sesabamisad 3000 - 3000
laris odenobiT.
axali ambebi
#16 (016)
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gaiRviZe, nana, mamao modis...
gaxevebuli saxe da groteskuli iumori, rasakvirvelia,
acocxlebs da graduss
matebs warmodgenas. aseve,
unda aRiniSnos eka niJaraZe,
romlis personaJi TiTqos
garemos gamosafxizleblad.
garda amisa, `sizmarSi~
Tavs iyris religiis, fanatizmis, antiamerikanizmis aqtualuri Temebi, romelSic
Cven vcxovrobT da rom ara
aseTi SezRuduli formati,
am Temebis gaSla bevrad
ukeTesad SeiZleboda, aman
garkveuli daRi daasva piesas. Tumca aucilebelia, am
Temebze ufro xSirad da
ufro meti daiweros.
zurab papiaSvili: èrTia,
roca avtori wers piesas da
meorea, roca mas reJisori
acocxlebs. didi madloba
ninos imisTvis, rom piesa gaacocxla. albaT, uxerxulia
amis Tqma, magram piesam Tavisi saTqmeli Tqva, roca marjaniSvilisa da gaeros erToblivi konkursis finalSi
gavida. reJisorma levan wulaZem, ninom da me miviReT
gadawyvetileba, rom `sizmari~
marjaniSvilSi
dadgmuliyo. mogvianebiT is
Teatrma repertuarSic Seitana. konkursis pirobiT Zaladobis Temaze dawerili piesa scenaze unda dadgmuliyo.
mxolod madlobeli viqnebi,
Tu mayurebeli speqtakls
miiRebs. cxadia, mainteresebs
kritika, radgan es konkursia da garkveuli formati
gansazRvravs saTqmelsa da
moculobas. Tumca vfiqrob,
qalebis mimarT Zaladobis
Sesaxeb Cemi ZiriTadi saTqme-
mkvdaria, Caketili, avtonomiuri... romelsac yvela ubedureba sWirs da misi, ase
vTqvaT, socialuri da seqsualuri `gaSeSeba~ sagangaSo
gadaZaxilia aramarto socialuri da fsiqologiuri
li swored kacebis saxeliT
vTqvi~.
ase rom, droze gaiRviZe,
nana, vidre sxva mamao kars
ar mogadga da qristes saxeliT kidev erTi qadagebasizmari ar mogiwyo!
daviT buxrikiZe
m
arjaniSvilis
Teatris
`sxvenze~ asulma
Tu misulma
publikam, cota
ar iyos,
ucnauri warmodgena
ixila. marTalia,
saxelwodeba zedmetad
banaluria _ `sizmari~,
magram axalgazrda
dramaturgi zura
papiaSvili am saTauris
miRma da, zogadad,
piesaSi, sazogadoebaSi
gamjdar fobiebs,
tradiciebsa da
Sexedulebebs kritikuli
simZafriT asaxavs.
speqtaklis
reJisori
da
scenografia
nino
maRlakeliZe,
qoreografi _ gia marRania.
mTavar rolebs marjaniSvilis Teatris cnobili
msaxiobebi asruleben: eka
niJaraZe
(nana),
onise
oniani (gurami), valeri
korSia (mamao), qeTi cxakaia (lamara) nino wulaZe
(qeTi).
dramaturgi qalebis mimarT gamovlenil Zaladobis
ambavs sizmrebis formiT
aRwers da warmoadgens. Sesabamisad, Svidi sizmari,
romelsac saSualo asakis,
depresiuli nana erT RameSi
naxulobs, misi, anu sazogadoebis, seqsualur-siurrealisturi xilvebiTaa nakvebi. am xilvebSi monawileoben
yvelani _ fsiqoanalitikosebi, med-personali, sasuliero piri, nanas moZalade
meuRle, misi megobari qali...
dramaturgsa da reJisors
sizmrebis samyaroSi gadavyavarT, yvelaferi TiTqos burusSia gaxveuli; movlenebs
xilvebsa Tu abstraqciul
reJisorma nino maRlakeliZem genderuli
da religiuri SfoTvebi `sizmarSi~ asaxa
garemoSi vxedavT. raRaciT
federiko felinis filmi
`julieta da sulebi~ gaxsendebaT. Tumca julietas
lis bolomde, anu lamis
erTi saaTis ganmavlobaSi
nana leTargiul da gaSeSebul mdgomareobaSi imyofe-
àrtistuli moCvenebebisgan~
gansxvavebiT, bedkrul nanas
bevrad realisturi da saSiSi moCvenebebi awuxebs.
saSualo asakis martoxela
qarTveli qalis egzistenciur Tu erotikul SeSfoTebas eka niJaraZe ufro plastikur-qoreografiuli
monaxaziT warmoadgens, vidre dramatuli monologebiT. aseve, plastikurobiTa
da mZafri groteskiT gamoirCeva onise onianis gurami,
romelic nanas sizmarSi,
erTdroulad, moZalade
qmari da Zalze groteskuli,
seqsualuri kompleqsebiT
Sepyrobili mamaoa. eqimi qalisa Tu megobrebis gafrTxileba sabedisweroa: speqtak-
ba da ramdenjerme Cagvesmis
lamis jadosnuri fraza _
`gaiRviZe, nana!~
mayureblis survilia, nanam rac SeiZleba male gaiRviZos da moCvenebebs Zlios,
vidre fanatikosi mamao mova
da kidev ufro mZlavr, xilul koSmars ar daatrialebs. speqtakli marTlac
saintereso formisaa da masSi ufro mxatvrisa da dizaineris mzera igrZnoba, vidre
moqmed pirTa fsiqologiaSi
garkveuli reJisoris intuicia.
es arc aris gasakviri,
reJisori nino maRlakeliZe
ganaTlebiT grafikosi mxatvaria. daamTavra samxatvro
akademia da magistratura.
aris damoukidebeli prodiuseri, art-menejeri da reJisori. rogorc prodiuseri, muSaobda sxvadasxva qveyanaSi. ganaxorciela ramdenime proeqti londonsa da
niu-iorkSi. rogorc mxatvarma, saqarTvelosa da
kavkasiis farglebSi monawileoba miiRo ocamde gamofenaSi, maT Soris _ oTxi personaluria. gansakuTrebiT
mniSvnelovania mis mier
daarsebuli `24-saaTiani festivali~, romelic ukve ramdenime welia, rusTavelis
TeatrSi imarTeba.
informacia imis Sesaxeb,
daaxloebiT mainc ra tipis
dadgmas naxavdnen Teatralebi, cnobili iyo marjaniSvilis Teatrisa da gaeros
qalTa organizaciis erToblivi proeqtidan. gaeros
erTiani programa `genderuli Tanasworobis xelSewyobisTvis
saqarTveloSi~,
rogorc Cans, misaRebi aRmoCnda dramaturgisTvisac.
zura papiaSvilis `sizmari~
erT-erTi saukeTesoa im
piesebs Soris, romelic
qarTvelma dramaturgebma
ojaxuri Zaladobis Tematikaze Seqmnes. qalTa mimarT
Zaladobis Sesaxeb proeqtis
moTxovniT, scenuri versia
erT saaTSi unda Cateuliyo.
amis gamo piesa sqematuri
gamovida, Tumca erTdroulad tragikulic da komikuric. ase Tu ise, Sedegi mainc
STambeWdavia.
rogorc yovelTvis, maRal
klass inarCunebs qeTi cxakaia, romlis TamaSi cocxali,
msuye da zustia. mis mier
Seqmnili eqimis gaSeSebul-
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àr minda raindoba!!! mTavaria,
mayurebelma mimiRos msaxiobad~
urTierTobebi, aq, TbilisSi _
sxva, Teatraluri kidev sxva samyaro iyo da saerTod aiWra. aRiarebs, rom pirvel wels Zalian
gauWirda.
àdaptaciisTvis erTi weli
damWirda, am ferxulSi rom Cavmbuliyavi. Tan arc megobari myavda Tavidan, marto viyavi da myavda es xalxi, institutSi gacnobilebi, mere da mere nel-nela
aewyo yvelaferi, me marTla madlobeli var gangebis, ar vwuwuneb, bednieri kaci var~.
dRemde didi siTboTi ixsenebs pedagogs _ anzor quTaTelaZes, romelmac cxovrebis gzaze daayena _ jer jgufSi
aiyvana da Semdeg msaxiobis saxlTan arsebul TeatrSic waiyvana da xelfasic dauniSna _ 70
lari. levanma uceb aRmoaCina,
rom muSaobs _ Tan sayvarel
saqmes akeTebs da Tan fuls
iRebs amaSi...
pirvel kursze iyo, msxverpli rom gaiRo profesiisTvis _
TeatralurSi dResac `miTiviT~
uyvebian axalbeda studentebs
rezo SatakiSvili
r
obert sturuam
masze Tqva:
`renesansuli
garegnoba aqvs~.
es swored is
SemTxvevaa,
roca qarTuli
Teatrmcodneobis metri,
nodar gurabaniZe
ityoda, _ ìmpozanturi~,
anu is, vinc Tavisi
garegnobiT,
SesaxedaobiT axdens
Zlier STabeWdilebas.
levan xurcia.
rusTavelis Teatris
msaxiobi. arcTu urigo,
arcTu warumatebeli,
metic, sakmaod
popularuli, magram
dRes mis saubarSi Tqven
mainc daiWerT sevdian
notebs _ Tavmdablobis
talRazea.
sul axlaxan _ rusTavelis
TeatrSi Sedga jansuR kaxiZis
musikaze, mariam aleqsiZis mier
Seqmnili warmodgenis `hariras~
premiera. `miuxedavad imisa, rom
Zalian bevri vinerviule, bevri
vifiqre, erTgvari riski iyo baletis msaxiobebTan erTad
scenaze gamosvla. saboloo jamSi, Zalian visiamovne am speqtaklze muSaobiT~.
male _ TbilisSic Sedgeba
azerbaijaneli reJisorisa da
prodiuseris aiaz saliaevis
filmis premiera, sadac levan
xurciac TamaSobs, filmisa,
romelic mogviTxrobs Jurnalistis cxovrebaze mediasamyaroSi.
bavSvoba, kadrebi, romelsac dro ver anadgurebs
soxumelia. soxumSi iyo omis
dros, dacemamde 2 dRiT adre
datova soxumi, 20 kilometri
fexiT iara, samSvidobos rom
gamosuliyo. 11 wlis biWma sakuTari TvaliT naxa omis kadrebi,
is kadrebi, Cven rom televiziiT gvaqvs nanaxi. erTi kadri
dRemde ar amosdis Tvalebidan.
25 seqtemberia, mamasTan, dasTan
da
naucbadevad
Sekrebil
jgufTan erTad tovebs soxums.
sanapiro zoli. mcdeloba samSvidobos gaRwevis. dabombva
haeridan... jgufad Sekruli
xalxi da samxedro gemebi zRvidan
_ axla zRvidan atexili srola.
gamoqceva sanapiro zolidan da
axla _ ieriSi xmeleTidan. levani gaiqca, gaiqca, magram ar icis,
sad...
`mama gamomekida, maxsovs, did
xesTan migviyvana, am xes mimayena, ukan Cemi da damiyena da zRvis
mxridan gadagvefara, anu xmeleTidan xe gvicavda, zemodan am
xis totebi, zRvis mxridan TviTon _ taniT.… zRvidan Tu wamovidoda srola, pirveli mas
moxvdeboda tyvia.…ase videqiT
sadRac xuTi wuTi, mere, rom
levan xurcia
Tavmdablobis
talRaze
miwynarda, gamovuyeviT gzas.… es
kadri dRemde maqvs CarCenili
emociur mexsierebaSi~.
cxovreba gagrZelda... zugdidSi. dadioda skolaSi da uyvarda qarTuli literatura,
maTematika, ar uyvarda qimia,
biologia da saskolo speqtaklebSic imitom daiwyo TamaSi,
gakveTilebi rom legitimurad
gaecdina, Torem msaxiobobaze
sulac
ar
ocnebobda.
ekonomikuri ganaTlebis miRebas
gegmavda. mere am TamaS-TamaSSi
xalisic gaCnda, interesic. ise
Sevida eSxSi, rom 1-el seqtembers mouTmenladac eloda
xolme, rom axali rolebi mieRo. skolas rom amTavrebda, mixvda, rom male am yvelaferTan
gamomSvidobeba mouwevda da
guli winaswar swydeboda. guli
swydeboda da azradac ar mosdioda, rom TeatralurSi Caebarebina. ase iyo manam, sanam zugdidis Teatris msaxiobma merab
kakaliam ar hkiTxa, _ ar ginda
TeatralurSi scado? levans
mounda da miuxedavad imisa, rom
Sin ganzraxva ar mouwones, mainc
wamovida TbilisSi konsultaciebze.
pirdapir rusTavelis Teatrs
miadga
levanis da ukve TbilisSi
cxovrobda, magram im diliT ar
ecala da konsultaciebze ver
gahyva levans. levani marto wavida. zugdidelma biWma Tbilisi,
cxadia, ar icoda da Teatraluri
institutis nacvlad, miadga...
pirdapir rusTavelis Teatrs.
`rusTavelis Teatris fanjaraze davakakune, konsultaciebze movedi, SemomiSviT-meTqi. miTxres, ès rusTavelis
Teatria, Svilo, instituti gverdiTaao~.
TeatralurSi mivida kidec da
Cairicxa kidec. Cairicxa Teatralur universitetSi da axla
iq gamocxadda uCveulod _ TeatralurSi, sadac yvela jinsebSi daiareba, levan xurcia 1-el
seqtembers kostiumSi gamowyo-
imas, rogor gaiswora Teatris
gulisTvis levan xurciam yba.
àraswori Tankbilva mqonda da
gaviswore, samedicino enaze esec
ybis operaciaa, magram es ar iyo
plastikuri operacia. es araswori Tankbilva arafers ar uS-
bili mivida. dRes ukve RimiliT
gaixsenebs da Tavs wiTel kvercxsac Seadarebs, ityvis imasac,
rom misTvis, CamosulisTvis axali da ucxo iyo yvelaferi. iq
zugdidSi, sxva ritmi iyo, sxva
lida xels, magram metyvelebis
srulyofisTvis sasurveli iyo,
gamesworebina da gaviswore~
mesame kursze iyo, telekompania `mze~ rom gaixsna da
manana berikaSvilma gaxmovaneba-
#16 (016)
premieri
ze waiyvana.
meoTxe kursze iyo, radio
`fortunaSi~ rom daiwyo muSaoba musikalur wamyvanad. amas
daamateT repeticiebi TeatralurSi da warmoidgineT suraTi _ rogor sZinavs gadaqancul levan xurcias institutis
Sirmebze. radioSi 6 weli imuSava, gaxmovanebiT dResac axmovanebs...
rusTavelis Teatris scenaze
fexi pirvelad àrakolegialurad~ dadga _ studenti xurcia
speqtaklis Semdeg darCa, scenasTan miipara da Cumad marjvena
fexi dadga _ `raRac sisulele
gavakeTe, magram gaxarebuli gamovedi Teatridan, rom me
scenaze fexi davdgi~.
rusTavelis Teatris
scenaze _ legalurad
gava sul cota xani da legaluradac daadgams fexs. 2004
welia, `rusTavi 2~-Si muSaobs
gaxmovanebaze. TanamSromlisgan
_
nino Tarxan-mouravisgan
gaigebs, rom sturuasTan kastingia. ityvis rom uaris da am
uariT miRebuli tkivilis eSinia
da kastingze ar miva. hoda, motyuebiT miiyvanen _ dima xvTisiaSvili rusTavelis TeatrTan
miityuebs, _ saburavi dameSva,
dangrati mWirdebao. rusTavelis
TeatrTan misuls dangrats
aravin gamoarTmevs, qeTino kantiZe xels waavlebs, _ `sturuasTan xar dabarebulio~. xurciac daijerebs da Sehyveba.
`dabarebuli ki ara, Turme
Cveulebriv kastings gavdivar…
videqi gauparsavi, gaburZgnili,
pirvelad vxedavdi cocxal sturuas, suraTi gadamiRo TviTon
robikom, sad SevmZvraliyavi ar
vicodi, xmas ar viRebdi. mixvda,
rom did mRelvarebaSi viyavi da
gamomiSva~.
ki gamouSva, magram nerviuloba ar dasrulebula _ axla
pasuxs eloda. rom uTxres, sturua dainteresda SeniTo, veRar
gaego, marTali iyo, Tu awynarebdnen. Semdeg iyo meored
dabarebac da sturuas naTqvami,
_ `moval Sens speqtaklze,
oRond 2 skami Seminaxe~. sturua
marTlac miva sardafSi xurcias
scenaze sanaxavad da... isev molodini. orkviriani siCume. levani
TiTqmis Seegua azrs, rom darCa
rusTavelis Teatris gareSe. magram erT saRamos gaisma zari.
aiRo _ gauTiSes, isev daurekes
_ isev aiRo, isev gauTiSes, mesame jerze moaswro Segineba, `ras
magineb, qeTino var kantiZe,
damireke~. qeTino kantiZe ise
lakonurad amcnobs Tavad damtydar bednierebas, niko lorTqifaniZes SeSurdeba: `xval TeatrSi modi, kontraqts xeli
moawere, sturuam agiyvana, kargad iyavi~.
deda ikiTxavs, da ikiTxavs, _
ra moxda? pasuxi araa. gaStereba, damunjeba, jer fiqri _ ès
marTla moxda Tu gavreke~ da
Zlivs naTqvami, _ rusTavelis
TeatrSi amiyvanes.
saxlSi veRar gaZlo. `maxsovs,
Camovedi, sanapiroze foTlebi
rom yria, diRmis sanapirodan
orTaWalamde Cavedi fexiT. sxvas ver vakeTebdi verafers,
movdiodi da, es yvelaferi marTla xdeba Tu meCveneba-meTqi,
vfiqrobdi, uceb Cems cxovrebaSi moxda is, rac me Zalian mindoda...~
TeatrSi axalmisuls `12 ganrisxebul mamakacSi~ da laSa
buRaZis or piesaSi gaanawileben.
erT-erT repeticiaze Sevlen da
etyvian, _ `meTormete RameSi~
iosebis roli unda iTamaSo.
_ rodis?
_ zeg. patara rolia, ar in-
erviulo.
mainc inerviulebs da iTamaSebs _ `viTamaSe es iosebi.
movkvdi oRond, `meTormete
RameSi~ vTamaSob, speqtaklze,
romelzec vabodebdi. Semdeg
sturuam gadaakeTa, iosebisa da
mRvdlis roli gaaerTiana da
mRvdlis TamaSic me momiwia~.
isev `12 ganrisxebulis~
repeticiebi, isev Sevlen da
etyvian: `sam dReSi `meTormete
Ramea~, magram mRvdelsa da
iosebs ki ara, hercog orsins
TamaSob~.
dRisiT _ repeticiebi, RamiT
_ teqstis swavla. `gavaTene sami
Rame da viswavle, teqsti marTla ar SemSlia, ra viTamaSe, kacma ar icis, magram viTamaSe. sxva
speqtaklebis winac vRelav, magram dRemde, roca `meTormete
Rames~ vTamaSobT, sanam scenaze
gaval, vkvdebi da ise gavdivar,
is SiSi da emocia ver moviSore.
es iyo Zalian didi ndoba da pasuxismgebloba~.
ar uyvars piradze saubari
da ambobs, rom piradze saubars
ZmakacebTanac aridebs Tavs.
Tavad ar uyvars, magram medias
uyvars mis romanebze wera,
qalaqs _ laparaki. mas aRizianebs
iarliyi, romelic miawebes _
meqalTane. ìmdeni meZaxes
meqalTane, meqalTane... uazro
iarliyia. ver gavige, ra, Cemi
romanebi gaukvirdaT, milioni
romania, ver gavige, saerTod
ratom gaxda es salaparako? _
Tavisufali adamiani vcxovrob
Tavisuflad...~ _ ambobs da amatebs, rom am etapze mis pirad
cxovrebaSi seriozulad da oficialurad araferi mniSvnelovani ar xdeba. magram xdeba raRacebi, rac yvela adamianis cxovrebaSi...
uyvars da hyavs yvelaferi,
rac ki borblebzea _ manqanac,
motociklic, velosipedic. motocikli Tan eqstremis gamo
uyvars, Tan adgeba _ sul gadarbenebze var da amdens manqaniT
namdvilad ver movaswrebdio. da
Tan _ ekonomiuria. velosipediT
ki Rame dakataobs _ Tu dro aqvs.
RamiT araTu dakataobs _ xan
saTevzaodac dadis. daiWers, an
interesi fexburTisadmi, magram
ra ainteresebT maT, vinc fex-
iyos is maRali xelovneba, magram iyo problemuri, drouli,
aqtualuri da dadgmuli genialurad _ iumoriT, tkiviliT.
magram rodesac Tan sakasos dgam
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roli miiRos,
kmayofilic iyos, magram
Tavad msaxiobi ar iyos
kmayofili _ iq ar iyos
namdvili, Sinagani
gardasaxva. msaxiobisTvis
yvelaze Zvirfasi swored
gardasaxvis wamebia _
roca is Tavs grZnobs
sxva adamianad. pirvelad
rodis igrZeni Tavi sxva
adamianad?
_ rogor rames mekiTxebi, ici?
did, genios msaxiobebsac rom
hkiTxo, isinic ki SeiZleba
dafiqrdnen _ iyo ki aseTi momentebi? Tu ara? gardasaxva
udidesi ramaa da aseTi ram geniosebsac ki TiTebze CamosaTvleli aqvT TavianT SemoqmedebiT
cxovrebaSi. iyo mcdelobebi,
miaxloeba gmirTan, magram me,
samwuxarod, jerjerobiT ar
Semiqmnia roli namdvili gardasaxviT. SesaZloa, raRac TiTo
detali yofila... me Sinagan gardasaxvas vgulisxmob da ara vizualur detalebs. samwuxarod,
ver vityvi, rom raRac Zalian
magrad gamomivida. jerjerobiT,
samwuxarod, asea.
_ garegnobis gamo Tu
SegSlia xeli
SemoqmedebaSi?
_ xan SemSlia, xan piriqiT _
damxmarebia. simpaTiurobaze araa
saubari, saubaria habitusze, aRnagobaze, garegnobaze. msaxiobma
yvela axal rolSi sakuTari habitusi unda daangrios. neitraluri habitusi yovelTvis
ioli dasangrevia, gamokveTili
habitusi ki _ Zalian rTuli da
xan es faqtori xelisSemSleli
xdeba. xan piriqiT, swored es
mkveTri habitusi gexmareba.
da Tan uniWod, es ukve marazmia~.
aRelvebs is faqti, rom yvela sfero _ uniWobis TavSesafrad iqca, yvelgan _ profesionalizmis deficitia. `yvelgan
profesionalizmis naklebobaa,
es yvelaferi moitana TviTnaswavlobam, ar aqvT miRebuli saTanado ganaTleba da mainc xels
kideben im saqmes...~
aRar xiblavs _ Souebi.
`ramdenime SouSi momiwia monawileoba, kargia, rom momiwia, magram am bolo dros aRar mxiblavs Cemi Tavi SouSi da uari
vTqvi SemoTavazebebze. erTaderT SemoTavazebas davTanxmdi,
ìmedze~ samedicino gadacema
èmerjensi~ mimyavs, am gadacemam momxibla TemiT, akademiurobiT~.
ar daiWers, magram mainc.
uyvars nadirobac. mouklavs
kurdReli, frinvelebi. daTvze
sanadirod arc yofila.
uyvars varjiSic. rusTavelis TeatrSi trenaJorebis darbazi aRWurves, magram ra ginda _
aRmoCnda, rom marto xurciasTvis. `sxva ar varjiSobda? me
vvarjiSobdi,
amovicvamdi
Sortebs da davdiodi giJiviT~.
aRelvebs is, rom fuls ebmis yvelaferi _ sportic, xelovnebac. Teatri, kino _ salaros, fexburTi _ fsonebs, totalizatorebs. am fsonebma da
totalizatorebma ki gazarda
burTs uyurebs? sporti, TviTon fexburTi Tu dadebuli
fsoni da mogeba?
ùfro da ufro daukavSirda
salaros Teatric, kinoc. raRac
Sousken wavida yvelaferi.
egreTwodebul `sakaso speqtaklebs~ vgulisxmob. Tumca aqve
minda vTqva, TviTon sakaso
speqtaklebis dadgmac SeiZleba
ise, rom xelovneba iyos. am
TeatrSic dadgmula sakaso
speqtaklebi, magram modi da bevri arasakaso Seedaros im
speqtaklebs. igive `xanuma~ da
Tundac `mere ra, rom svelia,
sveli iasamani~. SesaZloa es ar
_ yvela msaxiobis
SemoqmedebaSi aris
speqtaklebi, rolebi,
romlebic ar uyvars,
magram mainc uwevs maTi
TamaSi. aseTi speqtakli
Tqvenc bevri geqnebaT.
gixariaT, rodesac aseT
speqtaklebs
repertuaridan xsnian?
_ Zalian bevri egeTi speqtakli
yofila, magram moxsnila da
guli mainc damwyvetia. roli ar
gamomsvlia ki ara, saSineleba
yofila, saerTod araferi gamomsvlia, magram mainc miTamaSia, imitom rom Teatria da sxva
gza araa, saboloo jamSi, mainc
unda wardge mayureblis winaSe.
swored es rom ici, ra uvargisi
speqtaklic ar unda iyos, Tavs
ar zogav, cdilob, pirnaTeli iyo
mayureblis winaSe da roca raRacas deb _ mere gulic gwydeba. Zalian bevri speqtaklia maseTi, dRes aRar vTamaSobT im
speqtaklebs da Zalian kargi, rom
ar vTamaSobT, magram im rolebze mainc mwydeba guli.
_ mayurebelma SesaZloa,
msaxiobis mier Seqmnili
_ msaxiobi yovelTvis
raRac talRazea, ra
talRaze xar, risi
TamaSis survili gaqvs am
etapze?
_ ratomRac am bolo dros,
Zalian mominda istoriul
filmebSi TamaSi. tye-RreSi mominda gadaRebebi, fari, xmali,
ambavi... kostiumSi gadaRebebi
aRar minda. Zalian minda, vinmem
Tu aseTi filmi gadaiRo, mec
rom viTamaSo...
_ kerZod, romeli
istoriuli gmiris
gansaxiereba ginda?
_ yvela istoriuli gmiri uaRresad sainteresoa gansaxierebis
TvalsazrisiT. hagiografiazec
mifiqria, Tundac abo Tbilelze,
varsqen pitiaxSzec _ varsqens
siamovnebiT viTamaSebdi, saSineli vnebebia, iyideba kaci,
saSinelebebi emarTeba. grigol
xanZTelzec mifiqria... cotne
dadianzec... ra vici, yvelafers
viTamaSeb, vinc ginda iyos, ginda
mefe, ginda gmiri, ginda veziri,
glexi. TviTon filmi minda.
_ mefeebi kinoSi ki ara,
ager karze mogvadgnen.
mgoni, Senc raindoba
ginda da ar amxel. emand
raindadac ar gakurTxon.
_ ar minda raindoba!!! mTavaria,
mayurebelma mimiRos msaxiobad,
esaa CemTvis cxovrebis azri.
CemTvis sainteresoa yvela
roli, sadac ki SevZleb Cemi
habitusis, garegnuli ieris darRvevas. CemTvis esaa yvelaze
saintereso, me yvelanairad vcdilob, ar vici, rogori gamomdis...
ar gamomdis, jerjerobiT, samwuxarod.
_ Zalian Tavmdablobis
talRaze xar...
_ ar momxdara, ar gamosula eg,
rom levan xurcia dangreula...
vcdilob, davarRvio...
26 premieri
daviT buxrikiZe
a
xlaxan
dasrulebuli
Tbilisis me14
saerTaSoriso
kinofestivalis
erT-erTi
gamorCeuli stumari,
udavod, cnobili
avstrieli reJisori
ulrix zaidli iyo.
misi gaxmaurebuli
`samoTxis~ trilogia _
`siyvaruli~, `rwmena~ da
ìmedi~, ZiriTadi
konkursis
paralelurad
specialur programa
`reJisoris fokusSi~
uCvenes.
sami sruliad gansxvavebuli qalis vnebas, miswrafebasa
da ocnebas ulrix zaidli
TiTqos erT gigantur
tiloze asaxavs. trilogiis
pirveli filmis `samoTxe:
siyvarulis~ mTavari gmiria
saSualo asakis tereza (margaret tizeli), romelic
sasiyvarulo Tavgadasavlebis ZiebaSi ardadegebs keniaSi, seqs-turizmiT cnobil
sazRvao kurortze atarebs.
trilogiis meore filmSi,
saxelwodebiT `rwmena~, zaidli dokumenturi, magram xazgasmuli neitralurobiT
aRwers terezas kaTolike
dis, ana-marias (maria hofSteteri) misionerul saqmi-
rwmena, seqsi da dieta
#16 (016)
`samoTxe: siyvaruli~ (2012).
ulrix zaidli Tbilisis
kinofestivals stumris statusiT pirvelad ewvia da
cxadia, is axalgazrda
qarTveli
reJisorebis
filmebiTac dainteresda.
misi Sexedulebebi art-hauzisa da meinstrim-kinematografis Sesaxeb, iseve
rogorc misi damokidebuleba xelovnebis, politikisa da
mediis mimarT, sainteresoa
da ZiriTadad, memarcxene
msoflmxedvelobiT gamoirCeva.
_ `samoTxis~ trilogia
_ `siyvaruli~, `rwmena~
da ìmedi~ ukve bevr
kinofestivalze uCvenes.
axla is ukve Tbilisis
saerTaSoriso
festivalzec naxa
mayurebelma. sxvadasxva
qveyanaSi filmis Cveneba
raimes cvlis aRqmis
TvalsazrisiT? Tqveni
azriT, ra SeiZleba
axali gagvego am
trilogiiT?
ulrix zaidli:
`Cven vcxovrobT samyaroSi, sadac ZiriTad
Temebs media ukveTs, qmnis da amaxinjebs~.
qaliSvili, avstriis erT-erT
specialur banakSi atarebs
ardadegebs, sadac Warbi wonis mqone mozardebma dieta
ij ist~ kinoTeatrSi `rwmenis~ Cveneba kaTolike aqtivistebma transparantebiT
gaaprotestes. Tavad re-
Jisori am faqts ase xsnis:
`skandali, mgoni, sasargebloa. da es imitom xdeba,
rom arasdros veridebi tabuirebul Temebs,
vaCveneb imas, risi naxvac xSirad SeiZleba,
arc gvindodes~.
zaidlma Tavisi
Semoqmedebis adreul
etapze saxeli gaiTqva
dokumenturi
filmebiT, romlebmac
avtors aRiareba da
araerT
saerTaSoriso kinofestivalze prizebi moutana. saxelovanma
germanelma reJisor-
ma, verner hercogma zaidli
Tavis aT sayvarel reJisors
Soris daasaxela. zaidlis
filmze `cxoveluri siyvaruli~ ki aseTi ram ganacxada:
`kinoSi aqamde jojoxeTi ase
cxadad arasodes minaxavs~.
swored pirvelma srulmetraJianma mxatvrulma filmma, saxelwodebiT `ZaRluri
sicxe~ (2001), moutana avstriel reJisors aRiareba da
veneciis kinofestivalis `Jiuris didi prizi~. garda
amisa, kanis kinofestivalis
oficialur
konkursSi
monawileobda misi ori momdevno mxatvruli filmi _
ìmport-eqsporti~ (2007) da
_ kinofestivalebze, sadac
Cems filmebs uCvenebdnen,
sruliad gansxvavebul adamianebs vxvdebodi da maTi mosazrebebi yovelTvis mainteresebda. aRqmis konteqsti
yovelTvis icvleba qveynebis
socialuri da kulturuli
gamocdilebis
gaTvaliswinebiT. Tbilisis kinofestivali erTgvarad damexmara
kidec, bevri ram xelaxla
gadamefasebina. cxovreba xom
yovelTvis moulodnel arCevans gvTavazobs; Tumca, Cven
garda, am arCevans veravin
gaakeTebs. mgonia, rom
saqarTveloSi ufro mZafri
aRmoCnda trilogiis socialur, seqsualur Tu religiur doneze aRqma...
_ Tumca Tqvens filmebs
amerikaSi bevrad mZafri
reaqcia mohyva, sadac
morwmune kaTolikeebma
`samoTxe: rwmenis~ Cveneba
kinoTeatrTan
demonstraciiT
gaaprotestes.
_ diax, es niu-iorkSi moxda filmis `vilij-kinoTeatrSi~ Cvenebis paralelu-
ulrix zaidli (SuaSi) veneciis kinofestivalze
anobas. aRsaniSnavia, rom
veneciis 69-e saerTaSoriso
kinofestivalze filmi Jiuris specialuri priziT
aRiniSna.
trilogiis bolo filmSi
`samoTxe: imedi~ reJisori
misTvis damaxasiaTebeli Savi
iumoriT aRbeWdavs kapitalizmis miuRwevel, hedonistur
miswrafebebs: idealur sxeulze meocnebe melani (melani lenci), terezas 14 wlis
unda daicvan... aRsaniSnavia,
rom filmi 2013 wlis TebervalSi, berlinis saerTaSoriso kinofestivalis sakonkurso
programaSi
uCvenes.
sakmaod Tamami, erotikuli da religiuri Tematikis
gamo, trilogiis samive
films skandaluri gamoxmaureba mohyva rogorc mayurebelTa Soris, ise presaSi.
magaliTad, niu-iorkis `vil-
kadrebi trilogiidan: `samoTxe: siyvaruli~, `samoTxe: rwmena~, `samoTxe: imedi~
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premieri
kadri filmidan `samoTxe: rwmena~
rad. esec kargad mesmis, radgan stereotipebi da konservatoruli Sexedulebebi
amerikaSi gacilebiT mZafria, vidre evropaSi. aseTi
mZafri reaqciis nacvlad,
magaliTad, avstriaSi ufro
ironiuli damokidebuleba
igrZnoboda, Tumca venaSi,
wminda stefanes saxelobis
erT-erTma moZRvarma gazeTSi aseTi ram dawera: `kidev
yovelTvis miyvars da miyvarda. radgan uSualod, gulwrfelad muSaoba SeuZliaT;
icaven qcevisa da azrovnebis raRac gansakuTrebul
wesebs, rac mamakacebs arasodes SeuZliaT.
_ Tqven sxvadasxva tipis
qalebs uCvenebT
filmebSi. isini imdenad
lamazebi ar arian,
ramdenadac silamazisa
unda axsovdeT! gaixseneT
viskontis genialuri filmi
`yvelaze lamazi~, ana manianis
monawileobiT
_ erT-erT interviuSi
Tqven ganacxadeT, rom
gadaiReT `trilogiaTerapia~ depresiaSi
Cavardnili evropis
Sesaxeb. axlac ase
fiqrobT?
_ yovelTvis ar maxsovs,
pir SemiZlia vuTxra msaxiobebs, anu araprofesionalebs, rasac me vakeTeb. mere
ramdenjerme vxvdebiT erTmaneTs da daaxloebiT vici _
unda ganviTardes an gagrZeldes urTierToba, Tu ara.
daaxloebiT igivea bavSvebTan. roca `sanapiros biWebsa~
da `samoTxe: siyvaruls~
viRebdi, uamrav bavSvTan momiwia muSaoba. es xangrZlivi
da momqancveli procesia,
romelic pirvel rigSi patiosnebas efuZneba. amis garda, araviTar sxva problemas
maTTan muSaobaSi ar vawydebi.
Sedegia?
_ da am gziT ipoveT,
magaliTad, patara
msaxiobi melani lenci,
romelic SesaniSnavad
TamaSobs ìmedSi~?
_ vfiqrob, Cems filmebs
marTlac aqvs garkveuli
xarisxi, raTa filmis diskursi sworedac sakamaTo
gaxdes da provokaciis naperwkali gaRvivdes. Tumca es
ar niSnavs eTikis normis darRvevasa da xalxisTvis nervebis moSlas, rasac xSirad
mabraleben kidec, minda
ubralod da gaxsnilad visaubro da vTqva _ Cven vcxovrobT msoflioSi, sadac
bevr Temas karnaxobs mon-
_ am filmis moqmedeba
xdeba wonis daklebis banakSi
(e.w. banaki-dieta), sadac gogonas bevrad xandazmuli adamiani uyvardeba. sanam melanis am rolze avirCevdiT,
movinaxule lamis yvela
sazafxulo banaki avstriaSi.
vesaubre bavSvebs, gavakeTe
_ avstriaSi am saxis banaki
TiTqmis yvelgan arsebobs.
zogan gasamxedroebulic da
Zalian mkacri pirobebiT.
magram mizezebi, ratom midian iq mozardebi, sruliad
sxvadasxvaa, mniSvnelovania
dietis Temac, rac Tavsmoxveul problemad iqca dasavlur mediasa da sazogadoebaSi.
_ ramdenad eTikuria,
rom kinoreJisorma
gangeb aurios
mayurebels goneba.
daabnios an misi
provocireba gangeb
gamoiwvios?
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arada, warmatebebs orive
`frontze~ miaRwieT.
_ dokumentur kinos aqvs
Tavisi sazRvrebi, romelTac
TiTqmis arasodes varRvev.
vcdilob, ukve gansazRvrul
CarCoebSi vimoqmedo. rac
Seexeba mxatvrul kinos, is
mniSvnelovani xdeba gacilebiT didi saerTaSoriso
rezonansis gamo. kani da venecia yvelas pirze akeria,
xolo dokumenturi filmebis festivalebi naklebad
icis vinmem da arc media aSuqebs maT, maSin roca holivudis ambebs, an kanis kinofestivals _ uamravi reportiori. amdenad, veneciis kinofestivalze warmateba
CemTvis gansakuTrebuli ar
yofila. manamde ukve gadaRebuli mqonda `cxoveluri
siyvaruli~.
_ qarTul kinos Tu
icnobT? ufros Taobas
vgulisxmob.
_ naklebad vicnob Tqveni
axalgazrda reJisorebis
Semoqmedebas, Tumca, cxadia,
vici ioselianisa da farajanovis filmebi. mesmis, es
kadri filmidan `samoTxe: imedi~
kargi, RmerTi naklebad interesdeba aseTi reJisorebiT~. es yvelaferi mxolod
erT rameze miuTiTebs: sazogadoebrivi da religiuri
institutebi Zalian moZvelda.
_ samive filmSi mTavari
gmirebi qalebi arian:
tereza, ana-maria da
melani... am trilogiiT
raime axali gaigeT
qalebis Sesaxeb? Tqveni
warmodgena Seicvala?
_ gadaReba karg SesaZleblobas iZleoda, gamego,
rogor aRiqvamen sruliad
gansxvavebul qalebs erTi
ojaxidan... rasac ukve velodi da vicodi kidec. mqonda
winaTgrZnoba, rom davangrevdi bevr stereotips da Cemi
azriT, es movaxerxe. vmuSaobdi Zalian karg msaxiobebTan
_ margaret tizelTan (`siyvaruli~ da maria hofSteterTan (`rwmena~). ver vityvi,
rom Cemi imiji da damokidebuleba qalebis mimarT
didad Seicvala. isini
da siyvarulisTvis
ibrZvian.
_ ar arsebobs silamazis
unikaluroba da Sesabamisad,
arc raime gansazRvruli
koncefcia arsebobs. ras niSnavs es? samwuxarod, Cven
vcxovrobT sazogadoebaSi,
sadac media da reklama
aweseben sakuTar kanonebs
silamazis Sesaxeb. magram isini mcdari da Zalian zedapirulia. Cven vcxovrobT
samyaroSi, sadac ZiriTad
Temebs swored media ukveTs,
qmnis da Tavad amaxinjebs.
minda vaCveno, ramdenad gansxvavebuli adamianebi cxovroben Cven irgvliv; davanaxo mayurebels qalebi
Sinagani gancdebiTa da samyaroTi da ara mxolod makiaJiT. am gziT maT mayurebelTa
stereotipebisganac
vicavT. es aucilebelia,
raTa yvelanair msaxiobs
mieces kinoSi gadaRebis saSualeba da ara `Tojinebs~.
filmi silamazis konkursi ar
aris _ es reJisorebs kargad
rasac vambob, magram Tu ase
vTqvi, aRmosavleT evropas
ar vgulisxmobdi. es exeba
avstriasa da gansakuTrebiT
dasavleT evropas. dRes
evropaSi Cveulebrivi qalis
imiji sruliad sapirispiro ideas
eyrdnoba, vidre
silamaze, religia
an finansuri krizisi gulisxmobs.
gancxadebebi. movinaxule
skolebi... mokled rom vTqva,
TiTqmis yvelaferi moviZie,
risi moZiebac SemeZlo.
_ wonis dakleba am
banakebSi realurad da
strad qceuli media da holivudis mesamexarisxovani
filmebi. xolo Tu kritikis
an mayureblis provocirebas
vaxerxeb, rogorc Cans, es
Zalian sasargebloa.
didi warsulia da kino ver
icocxlebs mxolod warsuli
dividendebiT. saWiroa Temebis mudmivi Zieba da winsvla.
magaliTad, Zalian momewona
Tina gurCianis dokumenturi
filmi, aseve levan koRuaS-
_ Tqven xSirad
iRebT
filmebSi
araprofesional
msaxiobebs.
rogor
axerxebT maT
darwmunebas,
iTamaSon Tqvens
filmebSi? amis
gamo
problemebi ar
geqmnebaT?
_
ubralod,
winaswar Catarebuli muSaoba da gadaRebis wina
etapi maZlevs amis saSualebas. me Zalian Riad da pirda-
kadri filmidan `samoTxe: imedi~
nebayoflobiT xdeba, Tu
es rkiniseburi
disciplinisa da
mtanjveli dietis
_ Semoqmedebis adreul
etapze Tqven dokumentur
filmebs iRebdiT, axla
_ mxolod mxatvruls.
vilis `SemTxveviTi paemnebi~,
romelic Tbilisis kinofestivalis gaxsnis saRamos
vnaxe.
28 premieri
rogor `gadavagdoT wamali~ da alkoholi
`...winaswar
gafrTxileb, verafers
getyvi sensaciurs, arc
saswaulmoqmedi, orsamkviriani meTodebi
vici. danebebis
moklevadiani receptebi
Cveulebrivi satyuaraa,
miraJi. realurad es
xangrZlivi procesia,
gauTavebeli brZola,
mravali dacemiT, kvlav
wamodgomiT, didi
tkiviliT...~ _ ase
daiwyo Txroba
ganvlil gzaze
yofilma Tbiliselma
`mkeTebelma~, giorgim
(giom). arada, ra unda
yofiliyo masze
sensaciuri?! arc me da,
vfiqrob, dedamiwis
zurgze, arc aravis
sxvas, jer ar unaxavs 30
wlis staJis narkomanis
sruli gankurneba!
sayovelTaod cnobili
wesia _ yofili
morfinisti ar
arsebobs, saubari
SeiZleba mxolod
narkomaniis metnaklebad xangrZliv
remisiaze. da ai, Cems
winaSe dgas
`gamonaklisi, romelic
mxolod amtkicebs wess~
_ sruliad
gamosworebuli
morfinisti!
Jurnal `tabulaSi~ (#3032) gamoqveynda interviu
giorgisTan, romelmac aTze
meti wlis winaT wamals Tavi
daaneba, amjerad samudamod.
publikaciis formati ar iZleoda saSualebas, mTlianad
gadmomeca Cveni saubari. qvemoT gTavazobT aRniSnuli
intervius or nawils:
I. Short stories _ sagzuri
jojoxeTSi _ mis mier Cawerili Semzaravi ambebi;
I I. rogor `gadavagdoT
wamali~ _ gza janmrTeli
cxovrebis wesisken..
nawili I.
Short stories _
sagzuri jojoxeTSi
imedia, es mokle istoriebi _ `morfinistuli saSiSarebi mZimeebis gareSe~ _ vinmes
mainc Caafiqrebs, sanam xelSi
Sprics aiRebs.
cxovrebis wesi _
narkomania
narkomania profesiuli
eqstrimia. anemiuri yofis
sisxliT avseba. sevdiani erTferovnebisgan gaqceva. mizidulobis kanonis simsubuqiT
uaryofa. kaSkaSa wva da
daferfvla. cxovreba sicocxlisa da sikvdilis zRvarze. Tavisuflebasa da
cixes Soris. namusisa da us-
indisobis SerwymiT. mudmivi
riski da gagiJebis piras misvla. Tavgadasavlis Zieba.
Cveulebrivi mSvidi cxovreba _ boselSi gasasuqeblad
Semwyvdeuli saqonlis arsebobaa. saklavi pirutyvis yasbis danis mosawyeni molodini. uwamlobis Jams alkoholic midis. dasalevi narkotiks
anacvlebs. usiamovno da
iT asxamda. fSSuu! fSSuu! me
da qirurgebi saaRdgomo
kvercxebiviT SeviRebeT. saoperacio lampa sisxliT daifara. ganaTeba aRar gvqonda. wneva nulamde davarda.
pulsi TiTqmis ar isinjeboda. kaTeteriT meore vena
aviRe. swrafi gadasxmebi nakadiT.
prednizoloni.
mucelSi qirurgebis brmad
adgilze. Cafiqrebuli qvis
lodi. usasrulod grZeli
gvirabi. siCume. SiSi. Tavi
xuTas kilograms iwonis.
didi yurebi. gaparsuli
drunCi. bazris daxlze Roris Setrusuli Tavi. leJanka
Semoitanes. lodi daWrili
avadmyofis paralelurad
wamoawvines. is bneli gvirabidan narkozis warmarTvas
deg davibaneo. bozis Svili
viyovo. ar gjeravso? ra ginda debils uTxra? gvianRaa.
Zroxas mudmivad Sorisis
fxaniT dakavebuli xelis mikrobebi saoperacio instrumentze gadabargdnen. me yovelive gamovaswore. mivvardi.
sakaifo 20-iani Sprici Tavis
nemsiTurT ori TiTiT amovasriale. zewari isev gada-
zurab odilavaZe
narkomanis
dRiuri
mainc Trobis momgvreli.
Tavisufali da SfoTiani
cxovrebis wyaro. oRond ara
simSvides! brZola sabWoeTis
dagubebul WaobSi Cafvlas!
sikvdili sjobs uRimRamo
gdebas! aris amaSi raRac
romantikuli da infantiluric.
saavadmyofo
1. respublikuri saavadmyofos me-12 sarTuli. garedan
obobasaviT davcocavdi. meddebs fanjris rafebze gadasvliT morfs vparavdi. zurgSi saburTalos civi qari.
TeTri xalaTis amayad afrialebuli afra. magrad meSinoda. ras ar gagakeTebinebs
wamali. bevri vifiqre da
davaskveni: obobebic ablabudis
saqsov
webovan
sekrets SiSisgan gamoyofen.
gadmovardnas
ufrTxian.
2. Sua operaciisas muclis
aorta gaskda. manamde tualetSi Sevirbine. gaviCxire.
xuTi ampula ras geyofa?
didi SiSi vWame. mTeli saoperacio alisferi sisxliT
gaiJRinTa. gulis yoveli SekumSvisas sisxli Sadrevaniv-
xelebis faTuri. gadavrCiT.
guli gaeSva. wneva 80-ze dastabilda. yvelani oflSi
gaviwureT. Semamcivna. mTeli
wamali oflma gamoitana. mxolod Cemi alisfrad SeRebili xalaTiRa iyo kaifSi.
iwva TavisTvis saoperacio
taStSi da yvinTaobda. bevri
narkotiki
miaqvs
avadmyofze nerviulobas.
3. xaSuris mowyenili saavadmyofo. didi gamoqvabuli.
Txunelebis saZvromebi. qirurgiuli
ganyofileba.
daWrili mSvidad kvnesis.
sikvdils Serigebulia. muceli amotrialebulia. katletis azelili farSi. sisxli
da denTis muri. Savi nasafantevi iarebi fuyfuyebs. mibjeniTaa nasroli. orives wamali gvWirdeba. fentanili
mogvitanes. sinamdvileSi
droperidolis
kuklebi
yofila. droperidoli 15jer Zlieria aminazinze.
iwvevs adamianis gaqvavebas.
mTel operaciaze ori kubi
keTdeba. ver mivxvdi. meCqareboda. oci kubi gavikeTe. netavi sul ar davbadebuliyavi! magis dedac! bevri
momivida. as giJs gaaqvavebda
Seudga. lodi usaSvelod
gadidda. ukidegano gvirabi
gaiwela. operacia bednierad
dasrulda. biWi gadarCa.
daWramde naTesavebs 15 wlis
colisdasTan SeuswriaT.
mucelSi Tofi CaucliaT.
operaciis Semdeg xeli odnav
dauCirqda. anTeba Zvalze
gavrcelda. ocamde operacia
gadaitana. Zvlis fxekiT.
saSineli tkivilebiT. anaerobuli infeqciiT dalia
suli. yvelasgan mitovebulma. ar arsebobs RmerTi?
aba, imas Cemi gadamkide
cocxals jer ra gadaarCenda da mere vin moklavda?
4. xaSurSi varT. me da koka.
Zmakacia. Zroxas veZaxdiT.
operacia damTavrda. yvelani gavidnen. fentanils saoperacio blokSive vikeTebT.
lomkaSi ver vinZrevi. baianze koka gavuSvi. maincdamainc
steriluri zewari aswia.
saoperacio instrumentebSi
xelis faTurs Seudga. aseTi
regveni araferi minaxavs. eg
steriluria! mand WuWyiani
xelis Seyofa rogor SeiZleba?! upasuxod ar damtova. Se
Cemao. saWmeli vWame da Sem-
vafare. saoperacios meddas
aRaraferi vuTxari. ra meTqva? Tqvens gasterilebul
instrumentebSi
Zroxam
yverebiani xeli afaTurameTqi? ise darCa. ras niSnavs eqimis xeli!
5. operacia damTavrda.
avadmyofi
reanimaciaSi
mimyavs. gadavawvine. gavsinje.
kargadaa. eqims gadavabare.
gavedi tualetSi. gaviCxire.
sigarets movukide. arxeinad
movseirnob. reanimaciis
karebTan vewevi. modis eqTani
mako. guSin viJimaveT. gatexa.
reanimaciaSi
Sevimale.
morige eqimi araa. naoperacievi gaSavebula. pulsi ar
isinjeba. sadacaa wava. piripirSi sunTqva. gulis masaJi.
adrenalini. prednizoloni.
gavardisfrda. Tvalebi gaaRo. baro, eqimoo! gadavrCiT.
zogi Wiri margebeliao.
mako myavs mxedvelobaSi.
6. axalbeda eqimi var.
pirveli
damoukidebeli
narkozia. vRelav. ar vimCnev.
anesTetikebi
Seviyvane.
davaZine. xelovnur ventilaciaze gadamyavs. sunTqva
unda gaiTiSos. relaqsanti
Sedis. vakeTeb intubacias.
#16 (016)
mili traqeaSi Semyavs. Semdeg
xelovnuri sunTqvis aparats
SevuerTeb. davaintubire. yvelaferi kargadaa. fonendoskopiT vamowmeb. sunTqva
ar ismis! amovagde mili.
Tavidan vaintubireb. isev ar
ismis! isev igive. xuTjer
gavimeore. sunTqva kvlav gaCerebulia. vcaxcaxeb. oflad
viRvrebi. Semovida Tea. mometmasna. eCqareba. samorigeod vrCebiT. CamCurCula.
fonendoskopis mosasmens
xufi moxsenio. wavaZvre.
davaintubire. sunTqva kargia! operacia daiwyo. ori
adamiani gadarCa. me _ daWeras. avadmyofi _ sikvdils.
amdeni SeZlo wamierma vnebam.
siyvaruli
namdvilad
gadaarCens samyaros.
quCa
1. SemeSala. wamlis magier
isev droperidoli Semomapares. saSineli wamalia. 15jer Zlieria aminazinze.
iwvevs adamianis gaqvavebas.
xmaroben giJebis dasaSoSmineblad. erTi kvira TavSi
lodebi dagoravda. barnovis
xidze videqi da vfiqrobdi.
axlave gadavxte da davexeTqo kekeliZis quCas
Tu mezareba? ha?
2. me da erTi wamalma
agvagdo. yayaCos rastvaritelis magier skipidari davasxiT. maRali sicxe gvqonda
saSineli gulisreviT. ori
dRe-Rame gverdi-gverd viweqiT. erTmaneTs varwyevdiT.
aRsasrulze vfiqrobdiT.
Riirs ki ase cxovreba? viyaviT ase. gadavrCiT. diliT
Semonaxuli koknari CavxarSeT. gavikeTeT. mainc magaria wamali!
3. meCnikovze narkologiurSi vzivar. davTveri. ra
vakeTo? modi movtydebi.
Sida kibidan sxvenze. iqidan
saxuravze. zafxulia. ofli
mdis. orsarTuliani Senobidan gadmoveSvi. gaTvlebSi
Secdoma momsvlia! damatebiTi erTi sarTuli _ saxuravia. narkologiuris ezodan
erTi sarTuliT qvemoT sanapiroa. iq unda daveSva. movfrinav meoTxe sarTulidan.
amjerad gaTvlebi zustia.
gzad Semxvda xe. roks gamovede. Sarvali barZayianad
gamexa. xelic movitexe. ara
da vicodi _ Svidjer gazome da erTxel gaWeri.
4. damiWires. narkotiki
Camides. dakiTxvaze mtkivneulad mcemen. Senia wamalio.
saxeSi zonari mwared mxvdeba. Tavze celofnis parki
Camomacves. kiserSi jinsovkis
sayeloTi miWeren. hipoqsia.
gonebas vkargav. tvinSi
raRac momeSala. gaRviZebisas
mTeli guliT vxarxareb.
aRuwerel eiforiaSi var.
ratom vicini ase gulianad,
ar vici. ratom mirtyamen,
arc is vici. biWebi ki uceb
gaerkvnen. siafandobs es
goTveranio. ZaRlebma danam-
#16 (016)
premieri
iwyebs ulamazesi surnelovani nayofis gamosxmas.
2. kokainiani Stangalasi.
baianebs vavsebT. cota morfi. CavujeqiT. koleqtiurad
vikeTebT. saxeze mkvdrebiviT
cxvirsaxocwafarebulebi
noxze viSxlarTebiT. yvela
xmamaRla erTmaneTs miuTiTebs. Cumad. suu... Cuu...
lednikis susxic
Segawuxebs.
kokaini
qals aucileblad
cxvirsaxoci fobiebisgan
damcvelis rols asrulebs.
sinaTle saxifaToa. prixodSi kaSkaSa sxivebma ar unda
gagaRizianos. samudamod
giJi darCebi. fsiqiatriuli
seansi bevrjer meordeba. ase
kokainis xaverdovani talRa
moiTxovs. sul 5 wuTs grZeldeba. amitomaa xSiri gameorebebi aucilebeli. uamravi
gaCxervisgan
venebi
travmirdeba. xmeba. yalibde-
waxval? Tavis mokvlasac
iCaliCeb. rogoria ucxo
garemoSi cxovreba? uwamlod
Tan! ratomRac dReSi Svidjer giWeren. upriCinod.
iRlebi. gafarCakebisgan
Zala ar gyofnis saqme bolomde miiyvano. naxevrad
siafandze iklav Tavs. venebs
iWri. rom gadarCe, ise. an
sxvam giSvelos droze.
2.
mdinaris
piras
davTveri. aTkaciani jgufi
zis. mivedi. gavaboleT. davlieT. Tbiliselebs dascinian. yvelaze didi amovarCie.
cxvirSi muSti vglije. gavxti. dana gavaZre. ver mekarebian. garSemo darbian. didma
raRac awia. liandags vxedav.
Cemi Tavis mimarTulebiT
moZraobs. miaxlovdeba. sami
Tve reanimaciaSi viweqi. yba
gamityda. ybaze TabaSirs ver
daadeb. kbilebs Soris
mavTulebi gamiyares. zeda da
qveda yba erTmaneTs miabes.
sami Tve usityvod. Cineli
swavluli
mandariniviT
dafaze vwerdi ieroglifebs.
dadebiTi Sedegi miviRe _
davdinjdi da davbrZendi.
sWirdeba kaci. kokains _ morfini. Zlier uyvarT erTmaneTi. gansakuTrebiT qals
uWirs marto darCena. asevea
kokaini umorfinod. gaiyinebi. sicive agitans. tvinic
yinulad geqceva. fobiebi
icis. darCebi nevroziani Sinabera. kokainis kokorma sul
patara doziT unda miiRos
mamakacis Zala. morfiniT
daimtveros. kokaini ifurCqneba. axali ZaliT yvavis.
ba SuSis venebi. sacodavi
sisxlZarRvebi SuSis simyifes
iZens. moyviTalo-momwvano
lurji zolebi dauyveba
xels. odnavi Sexebisganac
SeiZleba daimsxvres. idayvSi
ubralo moxrac ki did sisxlCaqcevas iwvevs. mogewonaT?
droze gaikeTeT. magaria.
kokains ar sWirdeba RmerTis
daxmareba. damoukidebeli
tipia. sam weliwadSi asiani mogasvenebs. gagyinavs.
dvilebiT ician, visi gaxdeba
wamali. magari profesiaa!
TiTqmis yvelaferi ici.
5. axalgazrduli TamaSebi
narkotikebTan
riT
mTavrdeba? gadaxede preiskurants. cxovreba jojoxeTad geqceva. sjobs, Tavi
daibrido. SeiZleba gagimarTlos. RmerTi wagiyvans.
siyvaruliT dagexmareba.
droze mogklavs. an gaparviT.
an tragikulad. Tu magrad
ar gagimarTla _ alkaSuri gafarCakebiT.
6. daTom Tavi moikla
TofiT. lulebi pirSi Caido.
gaxevamde Ria piri. damskdari tuCebi lulebze. fexis
ceri Caxmaxze. daZabuli saxe.
gamohkra. muxis kuboSi sazeimod gawolili daTo. cudi
biWia daTo. ar dautova sazogadoebas Sansi. ver datkbnen daTos gayviTlebuli
cxvirisa da erTmaneTis
cqeriT. daxuWul TvalebSi
Caxedva? gakicxva? WirisufalT adamianurad ar etiraT? TavganwirviT micvalebulis loyebi ar eloSnaT?
mis colze ar eWoravaT?
aramzadam xalxi mSralze
datova! Tavis qala hqonda
axdili. naxevari ybac cxvirTan erTad momZvrali. amdeni kiTxva ki datova!
7. saburTaloelma barnabam didi fuli iSova da saxlSi wamliT Caiketa. gareT
areulobaa. biWma Zlivs cxovreba aawyo. coli moiyvana. remonts morCa. me-8
sarTulze sastumro oTaxSi
sacurao auzsac amTavrebda.
fulis kursze Tvalis devneba ki miaviwyda. gaufasurebis
ambavi gvian Seityo. erTi Cemodani nayaCaRari fuli
qaRaldad eqca. sastikad
gautyda. gaaZro iaraRi. TavSi iglija. baax! magari braziani vinme iyo. axlad SeRebili kedelic sisxlnarevi
biT miegeba. damac farexis
karebi sixaruliT gauRo.
levanam manqana Seayena. Zravi
ar Cauqria. dawynarebuli
ojaxis wevrebi saxlSi Sevidnen. mSvidad daiZines. diliT
gaRviZebulebs levani sawolSi ar daxvdaT. gaTiSuli
pirze qafiT loginSi unda
gdebuliyo. daZebnes. miagnes.
qafi ki hqonda. farexSi gaparula. iqve CauyvinTia. manqanis gamonabolqv mxuTav
airs dauxrCvia. yvela ver
iklavs Tavs. am dros gangeba
cotas
Tu
gexmareba.
umarTlebs ase.
9. riJa kiravabadSi wamalze daawva. malxazasTan
erTad.
gzaSi
ZaRlebi
daedevnen. daeTesa. asociT
xes Seaskda. malxaza gadarCa.
axlaxan ciroziT mokvda.
Temuras grozno evaseboda.
iqidan modioda. gzad moefsa. gaaCerebina. Sarvlis Sexsnas Seudga. CaeyvinTa biWs.
wabarbacda da xramSi gadaiCexa. orive SemTxveva hgavs
_ gamarTlebaa. RmerTis
xeli urevia ueWveli.
10. me ar gamimarTla. smisgan gafarCakebulebis siaSi
Cavewere. sxva gzac ar mqonda. garSemo yvela jigrulad
mokvda. me ki gadavrCi.
TiTqos yvela Rone vixmare.
bevri vikeTe. manqaniTac
viqrole. didi riskebic
gavwie. Senc ar momikvde! ar
vevasebi RmerTs! vaJkacuri
sikvdili ar maRirsa. jer
iwvaleo. muxlebze ixoxeo da
ise daibrideo. sxvagvarad
ver daimkvidreb zeciur sasu-fe-vel-so. bazari ar ariso. morCa xvewna-mudarao.
ara xar Sen sxvebiviT kacurad sikvdilis Rirsio.
bedi da damsaxureba unda
yvelafers.
tvinis SxefiT gasvara. Riirs amis Semdeg remontze
amdeni nervebis Sla?
8. megobari myavda levana.
uSnod gaipara. wamalze dilaadrian motyda. gvian
RamiT manqaniT WiSkars moadga. nazranidan CamoeTra.
daRlili iyo. gawvalda.
farexis Tavze gaSenebuli
talaveri. gamovardnili
deda da da. gaxarebuli deda
danoqsironebul Svils Sve-
1.
aRar
alkoholi
1. alkoholi gagavelurebs. sxva gza arc gaqvs.
ufulod. uwamlod. uSvilebod. uamxanagebod. yovelgvar u-uoT. unda dalio. realobas versad gaeqcevi. sad
omi
1. es omi raRa iyo? me
kidev gagiJeba maklda?!
daaryebuli tvini isedac
astralSia gasuli. wamali
swyuria. sul gadavedi
Wkuidan. jer magrad ar isrodnen. aqa-iq mxolod. isic
RamiT. garToba? cota gakeTeba. bevri plani aryiT.
varazisxeviT televiziis
mitigze. an iSviaTad parlamentTan. televiziis mitingi sjobda.
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2.
deda
Sevagine.
samtredielma mxedrionelebma fexebiT amwies. Cems
Tavs asfalts atboini malatokiviT ubraxuneben. gonebas
vkargav. loginze viRviZeb.
yvelaferi mtkiva. neknebi
maqvs gatexili. ZlivZlivobiT avdeqi. sarkeSi Cavixede.
eee?! sad wavida cxviri?! ve-
arsebobs! gamoricxulia!
vecdebi, avxsna. jer alkoholur safrTxeze. ludis
gemo da surneli magrad miyvars, magram ise SemZulda
odnav gabruebac ki, rom am
sasmelsac aRar vekarebi. me
fxizlad cxovrebaze, moqmedebaze, qalis siyvarulze
davkaifdi, ase momwons.
Zeb. kefazeaa! airwinaRiviT
galurjebuli gofrirebuli
miliT saxes uerTdeba. airwinaRi Zlier aferxebs
sunTqvas.
3. amjerad zviadistebma
viTom marodiorobaze damiWires. marmarilos iatakze
vwevar. cxviriT univermaRis
mtvers visunTqav. lula
Tavzea mobjenili. sikvdili
axlosaa. Tvalebi davxuWe.
sibneles simSvide moaqvs. amobrundi! gesvri! Se axvaro
mxedrionelo! amotrialeba
ar SeiZleba. TvalebSi Camxedavs. mere advilad momklavs.
Cemi sxeulis konturebis naturidan xatvas iwyebs megreli leonardo. galewili
mTvralia. sakuTar daxvretas pirvelad veswrebi. jeri
yurisZirSi. yurebi damigubda. isev jeri. kargi msrolelia, etyoba. axlos ajens
tyviebs TavTan. saxeSi mesoba
atkecili mozaikis pawawina
nawilakebi. qvesknelSi viyurebi. ori mWidi damacala.
amouSva boRmis orTqli.
gauara gaSmagebam. megrelic
WeSmariti qarTvelia _
separatizms ver daswameb.
ar dambrida. jigaria. gadav-rCii-i-i!
mTavari motivacia ki aseTia. ici, ise Sevedi, SeveCvie am
axal saxes, amgvari cxovrebis
wess, rom is Cemi gaxda. warmoidgine, yvelasTvis _ gatanjuli dedebisTvis, meuRleebisTvis, debisTvis, damfrTxali SvilebisTvis, me var praqtikulad erTaderTi imedi,
magaliTi, yovel SemTxvevaSi,
me ase vuyureb sakuTar Tavs.
maT sjeraT, rom maTi Svili,
qmari, Zma da mama gamova
narkotikis tyveobidan. ginda
siamaye uwode, ginda sxva ram,
me es roli momwons da amden
adamians imeds ver davukargav... mokled, Sansi araa, erTic ki, rom warmosaxviT mainc
Cavidino es!
kidev davamateb. narkotiki
da arayi adamians sWirdeba
arasrulfasovnebis kompleqsis dasaZlevad. me, ramdenadac es CemTvis SesaZlebelia,
vaxerxeb, davikmayofilo `survili, viyo mniSvnelovani~ da
`seqsualuri ltolva~. metnaklebad orive gamomivida.
ase rom, arc maqvs mizezi, miviRo narkotiki. ratom unda
daviwyo Tavidan da davkargo
is, rac aseTi SromiTa da tanjviT movipove? 5-8 weli reanimaciaSi mogzauroba, RviZli,
sicxeebi, sunTqvis ukmarisoba,
saWmelad erTi moxarSuli
kartofili dReSi da wola,
wola, sami weli! gaunZrevlad!
ici, rodesac vkiTxulob am
Canawerebs, an vsaubrob warsulze, arc ki mjera, rom
yovelive gadamxda _ me. erTma
Cveulebrivma adamianma gavuZeli da gadavitane es... ara,
is viRac sxva iyo, sxva.
P.S.
me: gio, erTi ram mainteresebs... mainc eWvi mepareba,
nuTu amdeni xnis Semdeg,
dResac ar gaqvs cduneba,
erTxel mainc gasinjo wamali?
Sen xom flob danebebisa da
gamarjvebis gamocdilebas _
gaikeTeb, ikaifeb da Semdeg
daanebeb?
gio: hoo... ratom ar viwyeb
Tavidan? amis erTi Sansic ar
(gagrZeleba Semdeg
nomerSi)
30 premieri
#16 (016)
samoqalaqo sazogadoebis konturebi
1
989 wlis 9 aprilis tragediis Semdeg gavxdi studenti.
maSindelma saqarTvelos
ssr
centraluri komitetis
pirvelma mdivanma
givi gumbariZem eris istoriisTvis
sruliad uprecedento gadawyvetileba miiRo da studenti
gaxda yvela, vinc ki sabuTebi Seitana umaRles saswavleblebSi. amitom Cems Taobas gumbariZis xeldasxmulebs gveZaxdnen. dekonstruqciis pirobebSi CamovyalibdiT (sabWoTa saqarTvelos dekonstruqcia daiwyo 1988 wlis SimSilobis aqciiTa da dasrulda samoqalaqo omiT). am periodis (postmodernistuli epoqis) umTavresi
principi _ parodireba gasdevda
Cvens cxovrebasac. erovnuli
moZraoba nel-nela CixSi Sevida,
rieebi. uZraobis periodSi (ar iyo
cudi kaci breJnevi, mSvidoba uyvardao, ambobdnen) davibade im
imediT, rom komunizmSi SevidodiT (axla natoSi//evropaSi
unda SevideT), `perestroikis~
sioSi Segrilebuli, samoqalaqo
omisa da urTierTsiZulvilSi, sicivesa da upurobaSi gatarebuli
studentobidan dRemde, postsabWoTa saqarTveloSi mecnieris 160lariani xelfasiT gasrulebuli
movaRwie erTi ramis siyvaruliT,
dafarva rom sWirdeba (g. doCanaSvili) da am eklian gzaze, Cems rwmenasTan da imedebTan erTad, gadamarCina qarTulma leqsma (axla
dagvianebul romantikad da ironiuladac JRers). genialuri oTar
WilaZe werda: `me yvela sityvis
warmoTqma mtanjavs,/ Tvals yovel diliT tkiviliT vaxel /da,
sanam qari misinjavs majas, /miS-
colebisgan
gamogzavnili
fulebiT moqeife, dominosa da
nardis moTamaSe aryis msmeli
depresiuli sakaceTi), gamorCeuli eTika da esTetika (sufTa sadarbazoebiT dawyebuli da rekreaciuli zoniT damTavrebuli)
Tu ukanaskneli kvlevis Sedegebi, romelTa mixedviT, respondentTa 34,6% miiCnevs, rom colis
cema gamarTlebulia, Tuki is
Svilebs yuradRebas ar aqcevs,
qmars eCxubeba, saWmels wvavs,
uars ambobs intimur kavSirze an
nebarTvis gareSe gadis saxlidan?!
Tanamedrove qarTvelis mentaloba totalitarulia, is SiSsa da
TviTgadarCenis
instinqtzea
dafuZnebuli. amasTanave, rac yvelaze SemaSfoTebelia, Cveni morali farisevluri gaxda. marTalia,
amas xeli imanac Seuwyo, rom postmodernistuli epoqa Tavisi ar-
da `bolomde awveba~ qurdul
gagebas, `zakoni qurdi~ isev ZalaSia (ufro periferiebSi, magram
saqarTvelo marto TbilisiT xom
ar ganizomeba?!). arada, rogor
ginda SeebrZolo am mentalitets,
roca TviT umaRlesi sakanonmdeblo organodanac ki saqmis garCevisa da agresiuli ritorikis meti
araferi ismis. monobam qarTveli
adamiani gadaagvara, amitom axla
Znelia imis Tqma, rodis ascda is
WeSmaritebis gzas. qarTveli
glexi, gamorCeuli Tavisi sibrZniTa da alal-marTali cxovrebis
wesiT istoriis kuTvnileba gaxda. jer kidev ilia WavWavaZe werda òTaraanT qvrivSi~: `glexkacisTana xarbs, glexkacisTana gautanels, glexkacisTana Seubralebels da umadurs Znelad
Tu naxav sadme, maSinac ki, roca
Tavis moZme glexs viwroSi
ovrobT. arian saqmes Sewiruli
adamianebi, mTel cxovrebas, Zalisxmevas, drosa da energias sayvarel profesias Seswiraven da
mainc SeumCneveli da daufasebeli midian am qveynidan (didebuli
adamianebi uZeglod ikargebiano _
n. lorTqifaniZe), magram, amave
dros, sakmarisia scenaze erTi-orjer SeikuntruSo an romelime
telearxis ekranze mouxSiro gamosvlebs da ukve sazogado moRvawe xar. cotas Tu gairjebi, panTeonic garantirebuli geqneba
(Tumca axla sikvdilic daswrebazea, didubis panTeoni ixureba da
ra bedi elis sapanTeono sazogadoebas, jerjerobiT ucnobia).
TavisTavad, ltolva maRali kulturisadmi sazogadoebis prioriteti unda iyos, oRond Tbilisuri snobizmi, e.w. elituri meSCanur-inteligenturi (fasaduri,
saba metreveli:
dakarguli sivrce,
anu sxva saqarTvelo
sad aris?!
(werili meeqvse)
radganac politikurma procesebma isteriis saxe miiRo. daiwyo
totaluri daumorCilebloba,
umuSevroba, gaficvebi. isedac
gazarmacebuli da pirad iniciativas gadaCveuli eri ufskrulisken
mieqaneboda. aRar tardeboda
leqciebi, ufro sworad studentebs ar undodaT daswreba.
mizezi? _ mitingi parlamentis win,
mitingi universitetis ezoSi, mitingi... yvelgan! sazogadoeba gadavida permanentul samitingo reJimze. esec iyo politikur-karnavaluri deformirebuli realoba, Tavisi mxatvruli komponentebiT: simRerebiT, leqsebiT,
cekva-TamaSiTa da daumTavrebeli SeZaxilebiT: Tavisufal,
demokratiul, qristianul, erTian... (aq interpretacia Tavisufali iyo, vin ras daamatebda)
saqarTvelos gaumar-jos-josjos!!! aqedan daiwyo qveynis ukusvla,
romelic
damTavrda
ekonomikuri kraxiTa da totaluri agresiiT. es muxti grZeldeba dResac. Tanac siZulvilis eniT saubari Riad, aSkarad
Tu farulad vlindeba yvela
etapze, yvela doneze, iqneba es
qveynis elitad miCneuli saxelmwifo-moxele parlamentarebi, biznesmenebi da arasamTavroboebi
(igive grantiylapia enjeoSnikebi),
konformisti Jurnalistebi (ZiriTadad, telesaxeebi), sasuliero
pirebi, Teatrisa da kinos msaxiobebi (xelovanebi) Tu kutiu-
verili maqvs wvimisTvis saxe” _
aseT mdgomareobaSi var mec! marTla tkiviliTa da didi wuxiliT
vwer da giziarebT Cems fiqrebs.
mec xom am miwis Svili var, Tqven
Soris gazrdili, amitom SeuZlebelia ironia da nihilizmi mkvebavdes erovnuli satkivris analizisas. rogorc k. gamsaxurdia
ityoda: mec yvela Rirseba da
nakli Cemi erisa mitarebia, magram
xom unda dawdes wyali, mouswrobels xom unda moveswroT?! (i. abaSiZe), rodemde vicxovroT e.w.
sasowarkveTili optimizmiT?! daviT kldiaSviliseuli imedi da
moTmineba gvewureba, Tqveni Wirime, realobaSi unda davbrundeT
da, rogorc Tanamedrove Jurnalistebs uyvarT Tqma, adekvaturebi unda gavxdeT, Torem, Tu Sroma da locva erTmaneTs ar SevaSveleT, evroatlantikuri zraxvebi oxrad dagvrCeba!
Cven gvinda evropa, ufro metic, evropelebi varT! _ es ufro
iluzoruli samyaroa da isea Sors
realobisgan, rogorc marsi _
Cvengan. davuSvaT, ismina ufalma
da SevediT evropaSi. ra movuxerxoT qarTul mentalobas, ra
migvaqvs Tan wasatan lxenad?! _
erovnul-religiuri nacionalizmi
(rac kargebi varT, qarTvelebi/
marTlmadideblebi varT), qarTuli Sromisa da drois kultura
(qalis socialuri rolis uprecedentod gazrdis Sedegad ucxo
miwaze gadaxvewili marCenali
siT krizisulia, rom mas Tan
sdevs kulturul faseulobaTa
devalvacia, RirebulebaTa gadafaseba, rom faseulobebi masobrivi yidva-gayidvis sagnad iqceva, magram gana es rame nugeSia CvenisTana qveynisTvis?! kulturis
komercializacia Cveulebriv movlenad iqca da is, riTac qarTveli amayobda (nacionaluri kultura), gaufasurda, xarisxi dakarga. Cven gavyideT Cveni sulic.
`suli dacarielda da eleqtronis nakadiT ar SeiZleba misi amovseba, _ werda geronti qiqoZe
1928 w. axla SegviZlia davamatoT,
rom verc internetis socialuri
qselebi amoavsebs, verc `feisbuki~ uSvelis imas, rac ase dagvaklda: yuradReba da siyvaruli,
Tanadgoma da erTguleba, ndoba
da pativiscema erTmaneTis mimarT.
Tanamedrove saqarTvelos
erTi didi Tavsatexi kriminaluri
azrovnebis daZlevaa. ruseTis
orsaukunovani monobiT sakuTar
gzasa da Tavs acdenili qarTveli
sul imis cdaSia, ra mogatyuos,
ra gamogZalos, ra moiparos da
Sin waiRos. ar aris es martivi sakiTxi, mas seriozuli mixedva
sWirdeba. mxolod qarTuli sinamdvile Tu uwodebs quCur
cxovrebas akademias. ai, esaa `sxva
saqarTvelo~ Tavisi ZvelbiWuri
tradiciiT, ginebiT. vaJas epoqis
`kai yma~ axla `kai biWobiTaa~ Secvlili. bevri Segnebulad amayobs
moatans: daarCobs, miwasTan gaasworebs... magram cxovreba mainc
imaTSia: iqa hduRs ZarRvebSi
moaruli sisxli, iqa scems TiTon
sicocxlis ZarRvica. rac sTqvi,
eg WuWyia, qafia mduRare cxovrebisa, Tavzed mogdebuli. ZirSi ki
wmindaa~. ilias epoqaSi dawyebuli
ryeva qarTveli glexkacis istoriuli xasiaTisa 21-e saukuneSi
ukve gaformda brZeni da muyaiTi
qarTveli glexis kliSes dangreviT da mas mihyva inteligenti
qalaqeli kacic. sofeli mokvda,
daicala, moxucebis amaraa darCenili. qalaqs Sexiznulebi ki sociumSi adgils rTulad imkvidreben. amitom airia erTmaneTSi
yvelaferi da qalaqi daemsgavsa
did sofels. man dakarga tradiciuli (qalaquri) cxovrebis kultura. Cven zogad problemebze
vwerT, imaze, rac `WuWyia, qafia
mduRare cxovrebisa~, Torem Cveni arsobis Ziri rom sufTaa, es
gvsmenia. axla swored istoriaSi
dabrunebas, dakarguli sivrcis
povnas, `qarTlis meored moqcevas~ veswrafviT, raTa kvlav
davdgeT erad sxva erTa Soris
`wmidiT saydariT, /eniT mdidariT,/ swavlisa SuqiT ganaTebuli!/
zne amaRlebiT,/ Zlevis didebiT,/
samSoblo miwis siyvaruliTa!” (gr.
orbeliani), raTa ar daviviwyoT
mamulisa Cveulebisaebr slvai
(ioane sabanisZe), anu mamapapuri
gziT siaruli.
paradoqsebis qveyanaSi vcx-
moCvenebiTi da yalbi) urTierTobebi, ufro tusovkebSi, erTgvar
kastebad dayofil sazogadoebaSia
gadazrdili. ramdens vicnobT Cven
irgvliv iseT adamians, romelsac
codnis, ganaTlebis deficiti aqvs,
magram erTdroulad kritikosicaa, erTaderTi cocxali meigavec,
dramaturgic, tele- da radiowamyvanic da, Tu moindomebs _ reJisor-msaxiobic. mere aseTebi (axali epoqis kvaWi kvaWantiraZeebi)
utifrad gaZvreb-gamoZvrebian, maRal Tanamdebobasac gamohkraven
xels da uZaRlo qveyanaSi katis
yefis dauZleveli fazidan veRar
gamovdivarT. am cxovrebiseul
teqsts sxva qveteqstic (an iqneb
konteqsti) aqvs: dro qmnis antigmirs, raTa gmiri mogvanatros.
frTebgaSlili uniWoba damRupvelia. mas ver aCerebs veravin da
Cveni drois triqsterebi deformirebuli
sinamdvilidan
(romelSic isini brZeni da zekulturuli
movlenebi
arian)
groteskuli profiliT imzirebian. amitomacaa es cxovreba
tragikomikuri!
visac ar ezareba, yvela wers,
yvelas mwerali hqvia. axerxeben
da saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris wevrebi xdebian iseTi adamianebi, romelTa nawerebis gacnobisas meSinia, wera-kiTxva ar
damaviwydes, radgan SemoqmedebasTan, anu axlis qmnadobasTan,
fantaziasTan, SeTxzvasTan maTs
nawerebs saerTo araferi aqvs.
zogs leqsis wera gariTmva hgonia
(loya-ingoroyva), zogi amiTac ar
iwuxebs Tavs da, Tavisi WkuiT,
verlibrs gvTavazobs (danagvianda poezia _ gagaxsendebaT poetis
sityvebi). rac mTavaria, beWdaven
sakuTar wignebs, awyoben ase gavrcelebul
prezentaciebs
(ganuyreli furSetebiTa da `feisbukze~ dasayreli fotosesiebiT),
erTmaneTs uweren fsevdorecenziebs, mere sadme moaxerxeben da
dilis an dRis teleeTerSic moxvdebian da meti ra unda Cvens ambicias?! amas isic daemateba, rom
internetsivrceSi `daukomenteben~ aTasebi, rogorc `Zaan magar
namuSevrebs~ (ufro Sors Cveni
Sefasebebi xom veRar midis!).
visac ar ezareba, yvela mReris. rogorc erT-erT ìumorinaze~ g. pipinaSvilis iosebam Tqva:
`xma magas ar unda da svindis-namusi~. musikaluri talantis gamovlenas xels uwyobs amdeni
teleproeqti (Jiuris kompetencia
mudmivi gansjis sagania). Tbilisis
saxelmwifo konservatoriaSi ar
arsebobs saopero-simfoniuri diriJoris specialoba (ZviradRirebuli fufuneba) da, aba, davakvirdeT, ramdeni diriJori mogvimravlda! yvelas joxi uWiravs xelSi
da pultTan dgas! daismis pasuxgaucemeli SekiTxva: sadaa maRali
xarisxi xelovnebaSi, ras gahyva is,
dros Tu udroobas?! samagierod,
dRes yvela varskvlavia da yvela
talant-niWieri. varskvlavebze
gamaxsenda, Teatrebis win gaxsnilma varskvlavebma gaaufasura yvelaferi. maxsovs, ramaz CxikvaZem
miTxra: ise ar waval am qveynidan,
Cemi varskvlavi rom ar amovaTxrevinoo. erTxel CaiareT
dedaqalaqisa Tu raionuli Teatrebis win da zecidan mowyvetil
ramden
varskvlavs
icnobT
filaqnebSi, mere visaubroT! nu
gagikvirdebaT, Tuki male skolebis (Tumca ukve iyo amis precedentic), meriebis, klinikebis, salonebisa... da mravalTa sxvaTa
dawesebulebaTa win zecidan mowyvetil varskvlavebs amoikiTxavT!
visac ar ezareba, politikosobs, cekvavs, Jurnalistobs...
mTavaria, ekranze, sazogadoebis
yovlismWvretel TvalSi sadme
Cande. Tanamedrove qarTvel adamians oRond saqmes nu daavaleb,
barsa da guTans nu gaakareb (ra
yria sofelSi), xelSi wigns nu daaWerineb (magis nervebi sadRaa), nagvis
yuTSi narCenebs nu Caayrevineb
(quCa misi xom araa), piradi higienis dacvasac nu mosTxov (zamTaria, sicivea), samsaxurSi adre misvlac uxerxulia (`paxmeliazea~ an
kompiuterTan gadaaTena), daniSnul drosa da adgilzec minimum
naxevari saaTi unda daelodo (sacobSi moyva da magitom), oRond
Tavs nu Seawuxebineb (sad
Segvi(Z)lia), Torem
ise ki
mogikvdes Cemi Tavi _ sufrasTan,
restoranSi, Wama-smaSi, kacobaSi,
gagebaSi, CaxutebaSi... da bolos,
natoSi SesvlaSic!
dasasruli Semdeg
nomerSi
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`sakmaod mravlad arian adamianebi, vinc ar
epueba Seqmnil savalalo realobas~
#16 (016)
maka svimoniSvili
p
premieri
remiers~ poeti
mixeil
RaniSaSvili
esaubra:
_ dRes bevrs
saubroben, rom
wignieri eri ar
varT. SoTa rusTavelisa
da vaJa fSavelas
patronebs amis Tqma
ratom gviwevs? Tqveni
azriT, ra gaxda amis
mizezi?
_ Tavidanve gasarkvevia,
wignierebaSi ras vgulisxmobT.
Tu wignierebad is migvaCnia,
sazogadoebis ramdenma procentma icis wera-kiTxva, eg sxva
sakiTxia. xolo Tu wignierebaSi imas vgulisxmobT, ramdenad
kiTxulobs
Tanamedrove
qarTveli profesiulsa Tu mxatvrul literaturas, es kidev
sxvaa. wignis kiTxva, rogorc informaciis, ganaTlebis, codnis
miRebis saSualeba dRevandel
teqnologiurad ganaxlebul
saukuneSi, albaT, ukve aRar aris
iseTi masStabisa, rogorc es
adre iyo, rodesac mxolod
nabeWdi produqciiT SegeZlo
inteleqtualur siaxleebze
wvdoma. aSkaraa, rom wigns sakmaod woniani konkurenti
gamouCnda kompiuterisa da internetis saxiT, magram es calsaxad imas ar unda niSnavdes,
rom am gziT arafer Rirebuls
ar iRebs adamiani. wigniereba,
Cemi azriT, upirveles yovlisa,
mainc ganaTlebulobas niSnavs.
am mxriv Tu vimsjelebT, ar
meCveneba, rom gaunaTlebeli
Taoba gvyavs. miuxedavad `mamebis~ mxridan kritikisa, axlandeli axalgazrdobis sakmaod
seriozuli nawili ufro Sinaganad Tavisufali, inteleqtualuri, motivirebuli, kvalificiuri da mizandasaxuli mgonia. Tumca isic saTqmelia, rom
skolebSi jer kidev ar dgas saTanado doneze swavlebis
xarisxi.
_ Tanamedrove
mwerlobaSi sxva
moTxovnebi da
tendenciebi gaCnda. xom ar
CamovrCebiT am mxriv
Tanamedroveobas?
_ Tanamedrove mwerlobis moTxovnebsa da tendenciebze me Cemi
Sexeduleba maqvs: ar vTvli, rom
mwerlobaSi arsebiTad raime
unda icvlebodes. formalisturi Ziebebi Tu skolebi, gindac literaturis msoflmxedvelobrivi, esTetikuri principebis nou hauebi, romlebsac
gvTavazoben xolme, principSi,
siaxle arasodesaa. msgavsi
`siaxleebi~ yovelTvis garkveuli mwerali-individis an aseTTa jgufis TviTdamkvidrebis
saSualebaa. mwerlobisTvis ki,
moyolebuli homerosidan,
umTavres niSnad da Rirebulebad rCeba adamiani. qarTuli mw-
`meCveneba, rom axal TaobaSi aseTi
agresiuloba ukve ironias iwvevs da
damarcxebisTvisaa ganwiruli~
aqvs kavSiri. realurad, ruseTTan yvelanairi urTierTobis
aRdgenis momxre var: politikurisac, ekonomikurisac da,
cxadia,
kulturulisac,
oRond es unda xdebodes Tavad ruseTis mxridan Cveni suverenuli uflebebis cnobisa da
pativiscemis safuZvelze da,
maT Soris, kulturis sferoSic. ruseTTan kulturuli
urTierTobis aRdgena ar unda
iyos Zveli, sabWouri ufrosumcrosi Zmis sqemis kalkireba,
kulturis `moRvaweTa~ merkantilizmi,
enamoCleqili
farisevloba da mliqvneloba.
_ ratom aRar aqtiurobs
sazogadoeba sxvadasxva
erovnuli sakiTxis
dasacavad, mis did nawils
arc mavTulxlarTebi
gauprotestebia, arc
ukrainis mxardasaWer
aqciebze gamosula. ratom?
raki `nacionaluri
moZraoba~ am sakiTxebis
irgvliv Riad afiqsirebs
Tavis mosazrebas,
sazogadoebas xom ar
eSinia, rom mis
mxardaWeras daswameben?
erlobac yovelTvis orientirebuli iyo adamiansa da adamianurze. es tendencia CvenSi,
rusTavelis wyalobiT, rogorc
aRniSnaven, cotaTi kidec
uswrebs evropul renesanss. amdenad, Cemi xedviT, qarTuli mwerloba arc dRes CamorCeba
Tanamedrove msoflio mwerlobas da arc odesme CamorCeboda. metic, TviT sabWoTa epoqaSic, danarCeni msofliosgan
rkinis fardiT Semosaltul
droSi, xelovnebisa da mwerlobis am samareSic ki, xerxdeboda
im tendenciebis gaziareba da
aTviseba qarTuli mwerlobis
mier, rasac danarCeni sakacobrio samwerlo elita qmnida.
dRes saqarTveloSi mravali
samwerlo gaerTianeba, mimdinareoba Tu mimarTulebaa.
mravali niWieri mwerali wers
da beWdavs wignebs. ubralod,
Cven mcirericxovani eri varT,
Cvens enaze gamoqveynebul
nawarmoebs cota mkiTxveli
hyavs. samwuxarod, qarTuli samwerlo produqcia naklebad an
sul ver iTargmneba ucxo
enebze, rac xels gviSlis imaSi,
rom Tanamedrove samwerlo
procesebSi integrirebulni
viyoT, rom gamoCndes is siaxle, siaxlove da kavSirebi, rac
realurad aqvs qarTul mwerlobasa da Tanamedrove msoflio mwerlobas.
_ Tu urTierTobT
axalgazrda poetebTan da
rogor SeafasebdiT maT
Semoqmedebas.
_ Tanamedrove qarTveli axalgazrda mwerlebisa da poetebis naRvaws, SeZlebisdagvarad,
maqsimalurad vecnobi, bevr
maTgans piradadac vicnob. bevri udavod niWieri axalgazrda modis da Cemi Sefasebac maT
mimarT uaryofiTi namdvilad
ar aris. axalgazrdebis Semoqmedebidan bevri ram momwons,
zogi ram _ ara, Tumca vinmesTvis Wkuis swavlebas namdvilad ar vapireb, radgan mimaCnia, rom yvela maTgans Tavisi gza aqvs da Semoqmedsa da
Semoqmedebasac yvelaze metad
Tavisufleba sWirdeba.
_ rogorc amboben,
saqarTvelos amdeni
mwerlobis msurveli
arasdros hyolia,
rogorc dRes. mainc riT
aixsneba maTi simravle?
_ vfiqrob, rom Cvens mwerlobas msurveli arasodes, arc
erT epoqaSi ar hklebia. moxaliseebi am yanas yovelTvis hyavda da kvlavac eyoleba. me amaSi tragedias ver vxedav. ar maRizianebs es procesi. am realobas Tavisi mizezebi aqvs: jer
erTi, Cven marTla poeturi,
emociuri, temperamentiani
xalxi varT, gviyvars TviTgamoxatva, vetrfiT popularobas
da, meorec, wera-beWdvac SedarebiT
gaiolebulia.
rogorc erTi gonieri andaza
ambobs: `wyalni wavlen da wamovlen, qviSani darCebiano~. dro
Tavad gacris, gafiltravs yvelas naTqvam-nawers da saukeTesoni SeZleben TavTuxis uloebis dadgmas mindvris boloSi.
_ rodesac sazogadoeba
gansxvavebuli azris
mimarT agresias
gamoxatavs, amis mizezi am
sazogadoebis sibnelesa
da gaunaTleblobaSi unda
veZeboT?
_ cxadia, agresiis gamoxatva
gansxvavebuli azrisa da Sexedulebis mimarT, upirveles yovlisa, calsaxad gaunaTleblobis, uinteleqtobis, ukulturobisa da Sinagani sibnelis bralia. samwuxarod, Cveni sazogadoeba, am mxriv, bevrad
moikoWlebs. me, piradad, es Savi
(ufro sworad _ wiTeli) laqa
sabWouri gadmonaSTi mgonia.
inerciiT jer kidev moZraobs
homo sovietikusi da yvelafers, rac misTvis inteleqtualurad miuwvdomeli da miuRebelia, uaryofiTa da ganadgurebis surviliT xvdeba.
meCveneba, rom axal TaobaSi
aseTi agresiuloba ukve ironias iwvevs da damarcxebisTvisaa ganwiruli.
_ ras niSnavs TqvenTvis
evropuli faseulobebi,
romliskenac
miviswrafviT da mis
damkvidrebas vcdilobT?
_ miuxedavad imisa, rom Cven
kavkasiaSi vcxovrobT, aborigeni kavkasielebi varT da
geografiulad evropa-aziis
gzajvaredinze vimyofebiT,
qarTveli xalxi Tavisi kulturiTa da Sinagani mentalobiT yovelTvis evropulisken,
civilizebulobisken iswrafoda. Cvens am bunebriv swrafvas
evropisken yvelaze ufro
metad da uxeSad ruseTma
Seakveca frTebi. man gamogvketa imperiul rkinis galiaSi da
ecada Cveni sazogadoebis dezorientirebas. madloba RmerTs, rom saqarTvelom moaxerxa am galiidan gasasvlelis
moZebna
da
cdilobs,
daubrundes civilizebul samyaros. evropuli faseulobebi
CemTvis, uwinaresad, adamianis
umTavres faseulobad aRiarebas, Tavisuflebis primats,
liberaluri Rirebulebebis
upiratesobas, kulturis, am sityvis farTo mniSvnelobiT,
sayovelTao ganvrcobas da
damkvidrebas niSnavs qarTvel
sazogadoebaSi. evropisken,
dasavluri Rirebulebebisken
Cveni swrafva logikuri da
metad saWiro procesia da me
mas mxolod mivesalmebi.
_ ra azris xarT
ruseTTan kulturuli
urTierTobebis
aRdgenaze?
_ vici, rom zogierTs rusofobad mivaCnivar, magram amas
simarTlesTan misxaliTac ara
_ erovnul sakiTxebs, yvelaze
ufro saSiS periodebSic ki,
yovelTvis erovnuli adamianebi, sazogadoebis saukeTeso,
Sorsmxedveli da moazrovne
nawili icavda. masas yovelTvis
sxva, axlo, pragmatuli prioritetebi aqvs. ver vityvi, rom
dRes aravin icavs an aravis ainteresebs okupacia, mavTulxlarTebi, ukrainaSi mimdinare
movlenebi. sakmaod mravlad
arian adamianebi da maTi procentic sakmaod seriozulia,
vinc am barikadebze dgas da ar
epueba Seqmnil savalalo realobas. dResac, iseve rogorc
adre, am brZolaSi Cveni sazogadoebis saukeTeso, jansaRi nawilia CarTuli. vis mxardamWeradac undaT CamTvalon, me ki
Cemi Tavi am brZolis jariskacad warmomidgenia. kolaboracionizmi da koniunqturuloba CemTvis miuRebelia da mixaria, rom vxedav, ase mxolod
me ar vfiqrob.
_ Tqvens
siaxlea.
xom ar
SemoqmedebaSi ra
axal krebulze
muSaobT?
_ minda giTxraT, rom SemoqmedebiTad sakmaod intensiurad vmuSaob: yovel meore
paraskevs mweralTa saxlSi `mixeil RaniSaSvilis mudmivmoqmedi literaturuli seminarebis~ proeqtiT vmarTav Sexvedrebs. vwer da internetiT vaqveyneb axal-axal leqsebs,
prozaul Canawerebs. gaisad 50
wlis vxdebi da am TariRisTvis
vapireb, ori wigni gamovce:
erTi
istoriulfilologiuri xasiaTis samecniero-popularuli naSromi
ìltos xeoba~ iqneba, xolo
meore _ Cemi axali leqsebis
krebuli, romelsac `mTiskilourni~ erqmeva.
32 premieri
poezia
juba Rebeli
miwas fexs rom vabijeb,
fexis guli miwiva,
sul fexebze mkidia,
vinc samSoblos miwixlavs!
darCa sofelSi Cemi bavSvoba,
Cemi cxovrebis
mTeli simdidre!..
* * *
menatrebi Zalian, menatrebi ise,
Sensken rom modiodnen,
movyvebodi nislebs,
an Tergs gamovyvebodi,
Tu Tmebs gamiSrobdi,
ra Sori xar Zvirfaso, ra Zalian Sori!..
muxameSuris civi qarebi,
Cemi rionis mRvrie talRebi,
Walebi, Cemi soflis Walebi
da saflavebi...
fasis mTa, gona, buba da Soda,
rasac verasdros ver daviviwyeb...
Cemi cxovrebis mTeli simdidre!..
upirvelesad yovlis
begiTavi da berTa sanaxSo
da papaCemis skami samaxvSo,
erdo, sabZeli, beReli, xaro,
tkiviliT maxsovs...
vxvdebi me maTgan ukve ra Sors var
da meZaleba fiqri sikvdilze...
ra mklavs - patara gogo?!upirvelesad yovlis,
Seni sxeuli, rogorc,
fexdaudgmeli Tovli...
ra Sevadare Rrubels?!.upirvelesad yovlis,
Seni qaTqaTa ube,
gauTelavi moli...
laTqiSoraze xidi patara,
nafetvara da nakalavara,
Walukeebi, mindvris Saragza,
dapataravda...
veli gadaxma, siyrme damSorda,
gulSi ki qari qris da qirqilebs...
anwli, kuneli, atmis xeebi,
mware blebi da RoRnaSoebi,
sadaTveebi, sajixveebi,
tye da Rreebi...
rogorc CvilisTvis dedis saSo da
rogorc yvavili mtverSi gzis pirze...
zexenieri da dedaRvTisa,
qeris kverebi rZiT da SaqriTa,
mowodebuli bebos kalTidan,
gaqra, wavida...
civi binula kldeze CamoSra,
xval nasaxlaric xavss moikidebs,
ver miveCvevi uimaTobas
da meZaleba fiqri sikvdilze...
Wabuas
am mZime droTa raindo,
SemorCenilo ZvelTagan,
netav sul cremli madinos,
mag Senma kalam-melanma...
erSi xar, erSi dadixar,
saqme ki, vici, RmerTTan gaqvs.
Seni cxovrebis biliki,
Sekruli Zafis gorgali,
mduRare aris kiriviT,
xar daTa, gora mborgali...
SenTvis momkvdari sikvdilic,
sioa saamborali...
givlia gzebzec, ugzozec,
dros SerCenilo Wabukad,
fiqri giylapavs uzmoze,
samSoblos fiqrSi jvarcmulxar...
mTawmindis gza Zevs uZozec,
Sengan rom mosCans, Wabua!
#16 (016)
samSoblos
ar vici, Cemo mamulo,
riT miuvide winapars,
ra giyo mravaltanjulo,
sul erTi muWa miwa var!..
gulic maqvs muWisodena,
es SemiZlia gaviRo,
didi iqnebi odesRac,
dafleTilo da daRlilo!..
da Tu mec mkvdreTiT avRsdgebi,
Tu ki inebebs gamCeni,
fexebSi Cagivardebi,
Sens mtvrad da miwad davrCebi!..
ufalo, mxolod SenTan
Sevcode!..
davdivar, vloTob, vmruSob da mainc,
taZris gzas veZeb, rogorc herode,
Sendobas Cemsas ara vTxov arvis,
ufalo, mxolod SenTan Sevcode!..
ris Toma, me var urwmuno, Torem,
ra uWirs Tomas, RvTis rCeul nawils,
ufalo, mxolod SenTan Sevcode,
sxva aravisi ara maqvs vali!..
me mxolod Cemi sindisi mqejnis,
Cemi bagidan wamcdari sityva,
ufalo, suli savse maqvs jvrebiT
da axla sulic xorciviT mtkiva!..
vinc samSoblos miwixlavs
bebos yveli amoyavs,
mifcqvnis cxel-cxel kartofils,
roca Cemi tato myavs,
natosic da katosic!
meidanze vaWarTa
kasta amokiskisda,
roca vwurav xvanWkaras,
martinisac, viskisac!..
saqarTvelo SensaviT
saqarTvelo SensaviT,
jvarcmulia, ufalo,
moasvene beCavi,
ar umtyunos gulmao!..
moasvene, geTayva,
sanam daclil-daSlila,
axla Cemi qveyana,
ususuri bavSvia...
xan mxars wamoartyamen,
xan xels uTaTuneben,
miwa Semoatyaves,
zeca Camoubneles...
xan CrdiloeTs abamen,
xan azias, evropas,
RvTismSobelo, sadamde,
moasvene, eyofa...
daiRala beCavi,
ar umtyunos gulmao,
saqarTveloc SensaviT,
jvarcmulia, ufalo!
aRarc gza sawiwamuro...
aRarc gza sawiwamuro,
aRarc vin tyvias gaxlis,
SerCenili var sawuTros,
rogorc qvis lodebs xavsi...
taZarSi
o, rogor minda am taZars,
muxlCoqviT Semovuaro,
maradiulad aqa var,
arsad wavsulvar, ufalo!
ar Camivlia kacisTvis,
gauRimeblad, usalmod,
mainc rad metrfis macili,
Cemgan ra unda, ufalo?!.
bevrjer mindoda mecxovra,
Seugineblad, uvalod,
codvili, magram mec xom var,
erTi Sengani, ufalo!..
sul erTi fiqri damyveba,kaci ar grCeba umadlod,
yvela giyvardes amqveynad,
ra movale xar, ufalo?!.
Cumad ver dadis sicocxlec,
kvalic ar qreba ukvalod,
aqa var, minda icode,
arsad wavsulvar, ufalo!
galaktions
rogorc wesi, galaktions,
ar uyvarda mxolod frena,
fexs adgamda kavkasions,
fazisidan sibrZnes krefda...
cxel Subls miuSverda rions,
rom ar asxltomoda kefas!..
mainc aufrinda SaSvi,
mainc gaakeTa salto,
wavida da darCa saxlSi,
leqsebi da Zveli palto...
didi, didi, didi... bavSvi...
martSi, martSi, martSic marto!
roca siyvaruls aRar
ganicdis
aRarc gza sawiwamuro,
aRarc vin tyvias gaxlis,
SerCenili var sawuTros,
rogorc qvis lodebs xavsi...
ver dagaberebs wlebi verxvebad,
Semojaruli droiT, manZiliT,
adamiani maSin berdeba,
roca siyvaruls aRar ganicdis.
rogorc sip qvaze mdinare,
mivelivlebi miwas,
aqedan gamomdinare,
var cremlisaviT wminda...
ver dagaberebs javri tiali,
verc dagaSorebs RmerTTan macili,
maSin berdebi adamiani,
roca siyvaruls aRar ganicdi.
magram mJavea es cremli,
gulis naRvelis mdeda,
sul wuTisofels Sevcqerdi,
rogor sisxliviT mxvrepda...
maS, siyvarulo, modi afeTqdi,
jer xom sul raRac asi wlisa var,
Semomabnie wiTel-bafTebi,
axlos mamyofe dedamiwasTan!..
ra tkivilebad damRvara,
ra siyvarulad madno,
is, rac viyaviT, aRar varT,
axla imasRa vdardob...
Semomzeurdi sulSi, sxeulSi,
miZinebuli amivulkane,
Sens als da elvas gadaCveuli,
uSenod am guls ver vumkurnaleb!..
xval ra saxeli erqmeva,
Cemi mamulis zecas,
sxeuls vadnebi leqsebad,
miviparebi mzesTan!..
ver dagaberebs droiT, manZiliT,
Semojaruli wlebi verxvebad,
roca siyvaruls aRar ganicdis,
adamiani maSin berdeba!..
#16 (016)
premieri
m
saxiobma
Juliet druem
yvelaferi,
rasac ki
cxovrebaSi
miaRwia,
viqtor hiugos
Seswira. es siyvarulis
saocari istoria iyo.
viqtor-mari hiugo 1802
wlis 26 Tebervals, bezansonSi, lotaringieli kapitnis
ojaxSi daibada. dabadebisTanave
misi
aRzrdiT
dedamisi sofi trebuSe iyo
dakavebuli. Zalauflebismoyvare sofi vaJs Tavisi nebis gamoxatvis uflebas ar
aZlevda. momavali poetis
romantikul naturas siyvaruli swyuroda, magram
mkacrma dedam ymawvils pirvel siyvarulTan, adel fuSesTan Sexvedra sastikad
aukrZala.
mxolod
dedis
gardacvalebis Semdeg, mamam ukve
19 wlis biWis tanjvas bolo
mouRo da mas sayvarel adamianTan urTierTobis neba
darTo. am dros hiugos poetad Camoyalibebis procesi
sruldeboda.
hiugos leqsebis pirveli
krebuli Zalian moewona mefe
ludovik XVII-s. man axalgazrda poets yovelwliuri pensia _ 1200 franki dauniSna,
rac mas Zalian sWirdeboda.
1822 wlis 12 oqtombers
adelma da viqtorma, parizis
sen-siulpisis eklesiaSi
jvari daiweres.
maTi colqmruli cxovreba bednieri iyo. mosiyvarule
colma viqtors xuTi Svili
aCuqa. Tavad hiugom ki aRiareba moipova ara mxolod
rogorc romanistma, aramed
dramaturgmac. misi piesebi
warmatebiT idgmeboda safrangeTis
saukeTeso
scenebze. is cnobili da mdidari gaxda.
ojaxur keTildReobas
wertili dausva 30 wlis viqtoris axalgazrda msaxiobTan _ Juliet druesTan Sexvedram. man is parizis erTerT TeatrSi Tavisi piesis
`lukrecia
borjias~
repeticiis dros gaicno.
piesaSi Julieti patara
rols TamaSobda.
madmuazel drue parizis
ulamazes qalTa Soris gamoirCeoda. axalgazrdobis
miuxedavad (maTi Sexvedris
dros msaxiobi oci wlis iyo),
ubralo xalxidan gamosuli
Julieti daxvewili kurtizani qali iyo. Wkvian da Tavisuflebismoyvare gogonas fufunebiT savse cxovreba hqonda. uamrav Zvirfaseulobasa
da mdidrul tansacmels
Tavisi mravalricxovani sayvarlebis xarjze yidulobda.
is tkbeboda restornebiTa da
maRali wris sazogadoebiT
da mudmivad amtkicebda, rom
dabali wris gogonasac SeeZlo ganaTlebuli gamxdariyo
da sayovelTao aRiareba
moepovebina.
Juliet drue axla mTlianad viqtor hiugos ekuTvnoda. is iyo misi Crdili,
erTdroulad mfarveli angelozic da monac. Julieti
tori
safrangeTidan
gaaZeves.
eWviani viqtori namdvil
tiranad iqca. hiugo Juliets ukrZalavda saxlidan
uyoymanod asrulebda sayvareli mamakacis survilebs.
Julieti awarmoebda hiugos
pirad arqivs, iwerda mis xelnawerebs. is mas gahyva gernsis kunZulzec, rodesac viq-
marto gasvlas. Julieti
xSirad ramdenime dRis ganmavlobaSi saxlSi viqtoris
dabrunebas elodeboda, im
dros, rodesac is sxva
qalebTan erToboda. Julietma daTvla, rom erTi wlis
ganmavlobaSi viqtorma 200mde sayvareli gamoicvala.
magram morigi romanis Semdeg viqtori kvlav Juliets
ubrundeboda. Julieti ki
TiTqos Tavis amoralur warsuls inaniebda, iTmenda, patiobda da uyvarda.
viqtori aRiarebda, rom
Julietis mimarT siyvaruli
yvelaze maRla idga _ RmerTze, Svilebze da didebazec ki. mxolod Julieti iyo
misi `WeSmariti coli~,
romelic unazes grZnobebs
imsaxurebda.
viqtoris
kanonierma
colma adelma sikvdilis win
Juliet drues patiebac ki
sTxova.
adelis
gardacvalebis Semdeg, 1868 wels
Julieti colad gahyva sayvarel mamakacs da sicocxlis bolomde misi erTguli
darCa. Julieti 1883 wlis 11
maiss gardaicvala da viqtori uzarmazar, cariel
saxlSi
srul
sasowarkveTilebaSi datova.
viqtor hiugom Tavis TavSi ver ipova Zala, Julieti
ukanasknel gzaze gaecilebina. misma cxovrebam yovelgvari azri dakarga. viqtori
1885 wlis 22 maiss infarqtiT
gardaicvala.
maTi mimowera hiugos 15
aTas da Julietis 17 aTas
werils iTvlis. werilebi
savsea sinaziT, moTminebiTa
da didi siyvaruliT. sikvdilis win Tavis ukanasknel
gzavnilSi viqtor hiugom
yvela im borotebis patiebis
niSnad Juliets Tavisi fotosuraTi gadasca, warweriT:
`siyvarulis 50 weli. es
saukeTesoa yvela qorwinebidan~.
viqtor hiugo da Juliet drue
siyvarulis 50 weli
Juliets viqtori ugonod
Seuyvarda, Tavad hiugo ki,
romelsac 11 weliwadi adeli siyvaruliT anebivrebda,
verc warmoidgenda, rom
Julietis mimarT moulodneli siyvaruli mis cxovrebas
sruliad gadaatrialebda da
morcxv axalgazrda kacs
Tavdajerebul da Rirseul
mamakacad gadaaqcevda.
maTma sasiyvarulo kavSirma, romelic 50 wels gagrZelda,
gauZlo mraval
aRzevebasa da dacemas. Julieti viqtors namdvili siyvarulisa
da
vnebis
gakveTilebs utarebda.
maTi vnebiani siyvarulis
erTi wlis Tavze gamovida
hiugos moTxroba `klod ge~,
romelic man Juliets miuZRvna. `Cems angelozs,
romelsac frTebi ezrdeba~,
_ aseTi warwera datova hiugom nawarmoebis Tavfurcelze. maTi romani gaxmaurda. viqtors megobrebi urCevdnen, wertili daesva
Tavqarian msaxiobTan urTierTobisTvis. amaze ki hiugo
pasuxobda, rom is ar apirebs
gawyvitos sasiyvarulo kavSiri, romlis wyalobiTac ìs
gaxda bevrad ukeTesi, vidre
Tavisi umankoebis dros iyo~.
Julietma datova scena, uari
Tqva mravalricxovan Tayvanismcemlebze, maRali wris
garTobebze da sent-anastazis quCaze ganmartovda.
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moamzada
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avtoritets endobian?
sofo kilasonia
“gazafxulze
wvima
icis
saqarTveloSi da mdinareebi diddeba p.s. mere rom ar gagikvirdeT da ar iZaxoT aseTi wvima
pompeusis Semoslis Semdeg ar
yofilao. an Tavad cxonebul pompeuss rom ar daabraloT.”
zura jafariZe
germaniisa da poloneTis
prezidentebs safrangeTis prezidentic SeuerTda soWis olimpiadis boikotirebis sakiTxSi. safrangeTis prezidentis am nabijs
aucileblad mohyveba e.w. dominos principiT sxva didi da gavleniani qveynebis liderebis
boikotic putinis olimpiadis mimarT. saqarTvelom, ufro
sworad misma dRevandelma xelisuflebam xelidan sulmokled gauSva SesaZlebloba, gamxdariyo flagmani Tavisufali samyarosi soWis olimpiadis boikotirebis saqmeSi. arada,
am qveynebs bevrad mcire problemebi aqvT putinis ruseTTan,
vidre Cven. Zalian samwuxaroa, rom doylapiurad davkargeT
garantirebuli yuradReba 21-e saukunis ukanono da aRmaSfoTebeli samxedro okupaciis mimarT mTeli progresuli
msoflio sazogadoebisa. vimeoreb, sul raRac, ori Tvis win
SegveZlo am procesis lider qveynad vqceuliyaviT, razec
araerTxel ganvacxade mec da sxvebmac presiTa Tu televiziiT. dasanania.
nika rurua
amaze ocnebobdiT xom, rom me
21-e saukuneSi, sadac unamusoba
iyo Suqsa da gazze laparaki,
erTi saaTi meZebna Cabnelebul
saxlSi gineb-ginebiT sanTeli da
axla ase egnate ninoSviliviT
vmjdariyavi gaToSili. visac ra
vagine, erTi ar ascdes.
rezo SatakiSvili
avTosa da jipis skandalis Semdeg gamovdivar winadadebiT: saxelmwifo moxeleebs, garda ministrebisa, saerTod aekrZaloT samsaxurebrivi manqanebis yola. amiT
daizogeba biujetis saxsrebi, rac
gamoixateba avtoparkis amortizaciaSi, mZRolebis xelfasSi, romlebic isedac ZiriTadad maT
ojaxebs emsaxurebian da avtoparkis momsaxurebis sxva xarjebis dazogvaSi. am dazogili Tanxis nawili SeiZleba moxmardes CinovnikTa xelfasebis zrdas, visac survili eqneba,
TviTon iyidian manqanebs gazrdili SemosavliT.
nikoloz mWedliSvili
manam, sanam saqarTveloSi, Tanamdeboba asocirebuli iqneba fulis SovnasTan, privilegiebTan,
premiebTan, ZviradRirebul saCuqrebTan, manqanebTan, mdivnebTan,
momavali cxovrebis materialur uzrunvelyofasTan da rac
mTavaria, dausjelobasTan _ araferi gveSveleba.
samarTlis principi _ rac ufro meti ufleba gaqvs, meti
pasuxismgebloba gekisreba. miuxedavad imisa, rom saqarTvelos sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsiT es principi gaTvaliswinebulia, is mainc ar muSaobs.
kaxa kaxiSvili
afxazeTSic ase daiwyo...
wvril-wvrilad... Semdeg gamsxvilda... Semdeg afxazeTSi Sesasvleli gza gadaketes... bolos
omi... SeiZleba vcdebi, magram es
murman dumbaZe cota urevs mgonia...
darejan mefariSvili
amixseniT, ras niSnavs es gancxadeba? ar gvyavs devnilebi, mosaxleoba daculia da isinic, vinc 2008-Si
aiyarnen, ukan brundebiano. aba, me
sxva sazRvrispira soflebSi davdivar? sxva xalxs vesaubrebi? ukidures siduxWireSi da 3-4 qarTveli jariskacis amara darCenil soflebze SeiZleba Tqva, mosaxleoba daculi myavso?
namusi gaaqvs Sen, zaqareiSvilo???
mamuka gamyreliZe
suvereni dgas kanonze maRla. es
gamoixateba ara mxolod sagangebo
mdgomareobaSi, rasac Smiti ambobda, aramed sxva ramdenime konstituciur institutSi, rogoric aris
Sewyaleba (prezidentis mier), an konstituciis darRveva, dadasturebuli Tanamdebobis piris impiCmentze uaris TqmaSi
(parlamentis mier).
wesrigs mxolod samarTlebrivi meqanizmebi ver amuSavebs.
aris raRac, rac wesrigsa da samarTals Sorisaa, amas politikas vuwodebT. politikiT ki suvereni TamaSobs.
vaxuSti menabde
`saxelmwifo uwyebebis warmomadgenlebisTvis SeZenili ZviradRirebuli telefonebi 2013 wlis saxelmwifo biujets 264 000 lari daujda~,
_ `pirveli arxi~, giorgi futkaraZis
siuJetidan. _ arao, kaco, sad Cvena
da sad pompezurobao...
laSa berulava
araferi ar mamxiarulebs ise,
rogorc samefo kari da misi kancelaria :)
eka kvesitaZe
ambebi
ra usargebloebi arian kacebi. yvelafris keTeba isev me miwevs.
nino WeliZe
Zvirfaso mTavrobav! _ ki vici,
rom 21-e saukuneSi Suqisa da wylis damadleba cudi tonia, magram... gamouSviT da damamadleT.
qoci viyo, Tu wamogaZaxoT!
zaza bibilaSvili
#16 (016)
es kaci (deputati Temur
feiqriSvili. _ red.) yvela navSi
ra male xvdeba :)))
oTar qiria
batoni avTandilis mijiryvnis Semdeg
samarTliani iqneba, man `magTis~ gaTamaSebaSi wiTeli Range Rover moigos. `kakraz~
2014 wlis modelia.
mefec aRar gvyams, raindebic
daifantnen,… avTo jipze gawixles,
murmanais marjvena guuxma, maRalma
mozgana, samoqalaqo sazogadoeba
glovobs da eh,… davrCiT ase upatronod am winasaaxalwlod.
giorgi fofxaZe
kalaZis sagangebo gancxadeba:
àvTo beriZis sakiTxs `qarTuli
ocnebis~ politsabWo ganixilavs~!
_ Cemi azriT, bevrad ufro saintereso iqneba, kalaZem politsabWos im ganxilvis ambavi mogviyves,
romelic erTi wlis winaT, savaraudod, am tipis daniSvnisas Sedga. vgiJdebi, ise mainteresebs, ra kriteriumebi iqna gaTvaliswinebuli koaliciis mier,
roca mas saqarTvelos erT-erT yvelaze did regions
abarebdnen.:((
paata qurdaZe
Zalian imedgacruebuli var... rodis
iqneba movlenebis adekvaturi Sefasebebi
am qveyanaSi.
maka razmaZe
saqarTvelos prezidenti _ TveSi erTxel,
yoveli Tvis bolo paraskevs, erTi Cais kovzi,
Wamis Semdeg... zedmeti doziT miRebis SemTxvevaSi (praqtikulad gamoricxulia, magram mainc)
mimarTeT eqims. janmrTelobas gisurvebT!...
goga xaCiZe
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premieri
35
bob dilans rasizmis gamo sasamarTloSi uCivles
s
afrangeTSi mcxovrebi xorvati moqalaqeebis jgufma sasamarTloSi musikos bob
dilanis winaaRmdeg sarCeli Seitana. mas rasizmSi adanaSauleben. gamocema Business Insider-is informaciiT, sarCelis mizezi dilanis interviu gaxda, romelic
Jurnal Rolling Stone-is frangulma redaqciam 2012 wlis seqtemberSi gamoaqveyna.
JurnalistebTan saubarSi dilani aSS-Si TeTr da Savkanian mosaxleobas Soris
dapirispirebis Temas Seexo. `Savebma ician, rom TeTrebis umetesi nawili maT
monobaze uars ar ityoda. am adamianebs Tavisi rom gaetanaT, Savkanianebi dRemde
monobis uRels atarebdnen _ maT ar SeuZliaT Tavis ise moCveneba, rom amis Sesaxeb TiTqos
aravin icis~, _ Tqva musikosma. man aseve daamata: `Tu Tqvens ZarRvebSi Cqefs monaTmflobelis an klanis wevris sisxli (savaraudod, igulisxmeba ku-kluks-klani), Savebi amas
grZnoben. es dRemde SesamCnevia. aseve, ebraelebic grZnoben nacistur sisxls, serbebi ki _
xorvatiuls~.
ukanaskneli sityvebi safrangeTSi myofma xorvatma sazogadoebam Seuracxyofad miiRo.
maT bilanis frazaSi xorvatebis nacistebTan da ku-kluks-klanTan Sedareba amoikiTxes.
`xorvati xalxis aseTi Sedareba danaSaulebriv organizaciebTan aris rasizmis xelSewyoba
da xorvati xalxisadmi siZulvili. safrangeTis kanonmdeblobis Tanaxmad, es ikrZaleba da
isjeba~, _ aRniSnes xorvati sazogadoebis warmomadgenlebma.
savaraudod, serbebisa da xorvatebis dapirispirebaze saubrisas bob dilani gulisxmobda balkaneTis ori qveynis mkvidr mosaxleobas Soris oms, romelic 1991-1995 wlebSi iugoslaviis daSlis Semdeg mimdinareobda.
dilanis damnaSaved cnobis SemTxvevaSi mas jarima emuqreba, romlis raodenobac cnobili ar aris.
2013 wlis noemberSi bob dilani safrangeTis sapatio legionis ordeniT dajildovda.
amave wlis maisSi nominacia droebiT daibloka safrangeTis ordenis didi kancleris Janlui JorJelenis mier. JorJeleni ar Tanxmdeboda momRerlisTvis ordenis gadacemas imis
gamo, rom is garkveuli drois ganmavlobaSi marixuaniT iyo gatacebuli da Tavisi simRerebiT, romlebic vietnamis omis dros dawera, omis sawinaaRmdego mowodebebiT gamodioda.
eSton katCeri da mila kunisi samefo qorwils
gadaixdian
s
qeiT uinslets vaJi SeeZina
h
olivudis ulamazes qalsa da òskarosan~ msaxiobs qeiT uinslets vaJi SeeZina. 38 wlis msaxiobma
britaneTis erT-erT klinikaSi imSobiara. qeiT
uinsletis agentis cnobiT, dedac da Svilic Tavs
kargad grZnoben. es msaxiobis mesame bavSvia, mas
ukve hyavs 13 wlis qaliSvili mia pirveli qorwinebidan, reJisor jim trepltonisgan da 9 wlis
vaJi jo, meore qorwinebidan, sem mendesisgan.
2011 wels qeiT uinsletma, romelic qmars ukve gaSorebuli iyo, gaicno milioneri ned roknroli. maT gacnobidan
erTi wlis Semdeg iqorwines, axla ki ukve vaJic SeeZinaT.
qeiTsa da neds bavSvisTvis saxeli jer ar SeurCeviaT.
ul cota xnis win presaSi gavrcelda informacia
imis Sesaxeb, rom eSton katCerisa da demi muris qorwineba oficialurad gauqmda. axla katCeri aqtiurad emzadeba mila kunisTan qorwinebisTvis.
mila kunisi da eSton katCeri erTmaneTs 15 welze
metia icnoben, 2012 wlidan ki Sexvedrebi daiwyes.
wyvilis axlo megobrebi amtkiceben, rom mila kunisi
da eSton katCeri qorwils princ uiliamisa da kembrijis hercoginias rezidenciaSi _ kensingtonis sasaxleSi gadaixdian. 30
wlis kunissa da 35 wlis katCers surdaT, TavianTi SeerTeba
samefo garemoSi aReniSnaT. amitom milas uaxloesi megobris, iorkis princesas beatrisis SeTavazeba kensingtonis sasaxleSi qorwilis gadaxdis Sesaxeb, wyvilisTvis sasiamovno siurprizi aRmoCnda.
mila kunisi da eSton katCeri qorwinebis pirvel Rames erT-erT samefo saZinebelSi gaatareben.
stumrebis raodenobaze mila da eStoni ukve SeTanxmdnen. dResaswauls mxolod maTi axlo megobrebi da naTesavebi
daeswrebian.
ledi gaga soWis olimpiadis winaaRmdegia
e
pataJuri amerikeli momRerali ledi gaga soWis
olimpiadis winaaRmdeg brZolas ganagrZobs. cota
xnis win is erT-erTi iumoristuli gadacemis stumari iyo, romelic, gagas wyalobiT, politikuri
kamaTis asparezad gadaiqca. momReralma SemTxveviT
isargebla da ganacxada, rom mxars ar uWers ruseTis
qalaq soWSi olimpiadis Catarebas.
misi TqmiT, verafriT urigdeba im faqts, rom ruseTSi seqsualuri umciresobebis uflebebs arRveven da maT mSvidobian
demonstraciebs xelketebiTa da cremlsadeni gaziT arbeven.
`mimaCnia, rom Cven olimpiadaze saerTod ar unda wavideT.
mesmis, ra mZime Sroma uwevT sportsmenebs, magram vfiqrob, rom
absoluturad arasamarTliania, rodesac sxva saxelmwifoebi im qveynis ekonomikaSi deben fuls, romelic homoseqsualistebis uflebebs arRvevs~, _ ganacxada ledi gagam.
jenifer lopesma Tavisi gvaris dabruneba
gadawyvita
g
anqorwinebisTvis saWiro dokumentebis mowesrigeba did dros moiTxovs, romelic SesaZloa, ramdenime welic ki gagrZeldes. amaSi ukve darwmunda momRerali jenifer lopesi. man sasamarTlos
isev mimarTa, raTa saboloo wertili dausvas
momReral mark entonisTan urTierTobas.
saqme isaa, rom lopesma qorwinebis Semdeg qmris gvari munizi miiRo (entoni musikosis fsevdonimia). axla
ki Tavisi Zveli gvaris dabruneba unda. amis garda, man gadawyvita, yofil meuRlesTan erToblivi meurveoba gaaformos 5 wlis tyupebze maqssa da emize. SegaxsenebT, rom jenifer lopesi da entoni 2004 wels daqorwindnen, 2011 wels ki
gaiyarnen. yofili col-qmari erTmaneTs periodulad xvdebian, raTa Svilebis aRzrdaSi aqtiuri monawileoba miiRon.
gverdi moamzada
maka svimoniSvilma
36 premieri
mamakacebisTvis Seqmnilia
Casaxvis sawinaaRmdego
abebi
a
bebi muSaobs droebiTi
vazektomis principiT.
adrec iyo mcdeloba,
Zlieri sqesisTvis SeeqmnaT Casaxvis sawinaaRmdego abebi, Tumca misi
miRebis Semdeg mamakace-
bi apaTiasa da libidos daqveiTebas uCiodnen.
avstralielma mecnierebma SeZles, SeeqmnaT kontraceptivi, romelic Zalian gansxvavdeba
winamorbedisgan. doqtori sabatino ventura aRniSnavs, rom abebi blokavs or cilas, romelic monawileobs eakulaciis procesSi.
preparatis aRweraSi naTqvamia, rom is gamoscades Tagvebze. Sedegad, mRrRnelebis 100ve procentma dakarga gamravlebis unari. Tumca maT organizmSi sperma ar dazianebula _
mas Semdeg, rac maT preparatis miReba Seuwyvites, mamrebma janmrTeli STamomavloba Sves.
Casaxvis sawinaaRmdego abebi mamakacebisTvis 10 wlis Semdeg gaiyideba.
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aTi saukeTeso produqti, romelic Tmas ajansaRebs
m
ravalricxovani reklamis miuxedavad, arc erT Sampuns an kondicioners ar SeuZlia moutanos mniSvnelovani sargebeli Tmas. isini Seicaven garkveul qimiur
elementebs, romlebsac SeuZliaT Tmis pigmentaciis stimulireba, an sxva nivTierebebs, romlebic Tmas garegan silamazesa da Zalas aniWeben. es efeqti xanmoklea da ama Tu im Sampunis moxmarebis Sewyvetis Semdeg maleve qreba. amisgan
gansxvavebiT, yvela adamians SeuZlia, sakuTari Tma gaxados `bunebrivad idealuri~ _ Zlieri da lamazi, qimiuri elementebis Carevis gareSe. amisTvis sakmarisia Semdegi sakvebi produqtebis moxmareba:
1. ucximo wiTeli xorci _ Seicavs didi raodenobiT mikroelementebs da, pirvel
Tvalebis moZraobiT SesaZlebelia fsiqikuri gadaxrebis dadgena
b
ritanelma mecnierebma SeimuSaves revoluciuri testi, romelic adamianis Tvalebis moZraobis analizis safuZvelze fsiqikuri gadaxrebis dadgenis saSualebas
iZleva. Teoria imis Sesaxeb, rom fsiqikurad daavadebulebi anomaliurad uyureben
sagnebs, adrec arsebobda.
specialistebi amtkiceben, rom maT SeuZliaT Sizofreniis gansxvaveba bipolaruli darRvevebisa da mZime depresiisgan. principi Semdegia: specialuri kamerebiT akvirdebian im pacientebis Tvalebis moZraobas, romlebic kompiuteris
ekrans uyureben. rogorc eqsperimentma aCvena, Sizofreniis SemTxvevaSi, janmrTel adamianebTan SedarebiT, ekranze arsebuli gamosaxulebis kvleva naklebad srulfasovnad xdeba.
isini mzeras xangrZlivad gansazRvrul wertilebze aCereben da mTlianobaSi, mTeli suraT-
is TvalsazrisiT, wertilebis nakleb raodenobas moicaven.
bipolarul darRvevebs an mZime depresias Tavisi ganmasxvavebeli niSnebi aqvs. arsi is
gaxlavT, rom am sam gadaxras xSirad ureven erTmaneTSi, radgan Zalze msgavsi simptomebis
gamo Znelia diagnozis sworad dasma.
am sistemaze muSaoben madxu nairi, filip bensoni da devid sentkleri. maTi TqmiT, testi
darRvevebs 95%-iani sizustiT gansazRvravs, risTvisac mxolod 30 wuTia saWiro. winaswari
Sefasebebis mixedviT, samedicino praqtikaSi sistema uaxloes momavalSi dainergeba.
oqsitocini daexmara
autizmiT daavadebul
bavSvebs, emociebi
`CaerToT~
a
merikeli mecnierebis kvlevebma aCvena, rom oqsitocinis
erTjeradi
doza, miRebuli rogorc
cxviris sprei, autizmiT
daavadebul bavSvebSi zrdis tvinis aqtivobas. kvlevis Sedegebi gamoqveynebulia JurnalSi Proceedings of
the National Academy of Sciences.
kariesis aRkveTas laqtobaqteriuli
SaqaryinuliT Seecdebian
g
germanelma mikrobiologebma kariesis prevenciis fundamenturad axali strategia SemogvTavazes. maT am mizniT pitnis Saqaryinuli
gamoiyenes, romelic Seicavs sasargeblo laqtobaqterias L. Paracasei testma aCvena, rom nerwyvSi arsebuli kariesis gamomwvevi mTavari damnaSaveebi _ paTogenuri baqteriebi Streptococcus mutans koagregaciis meqanizmis xarjze
mniSvnelovnad Semcirda.
rigSi, rkinas. gansakuTrebiT es exeba 40 wels gadacilebul mamakacebs, vinaidan aseTi xorci dietologebis mier gamelotebis profilaqtikis saukeTeso saSualebadaa miCneuli.
2. kvercxi _ Seicavs biotinsa da A vitamins, romlebic kvebavs Tavis kansa da Tmas. gansakuTrebiT rekomendebulia im SemTxvevebSi, rodesac Tma mtvrevadia.
3. banani, ludi, qeri, qiSmiSi _ es produqtebi
gaerTianebulia erT jgufSi, vinaidan isini Seicavs
did raodenobiT kremniums, romelic
sasicocxlod mniSvnelovania TmisTvis
da maszea damokidebuli Tmis sisqe da
Zala.
4. muqi mwvane feris bostneuli _ brokoli da ispanaxi mdidaria A
da C vitaminebiT, romlebic xels uwyobs kanidan cximis gamoyofas. es mniSvnelovania Tmis janmrTelobisTvis, vinaidan
asrulebs Cveni Tmiani safaris kondicioneris funqcias.
5. xamanwkebi da zRvis sxva produqtebi _ SesaniSnavad gvicavs gamelotebisgan.
isini aseve efeqturia qertlis winaaRmdegac.
6. tkbili kartofili _ mdidaria beta
karotiniT, nivTierebiT, romelic Zalian mniSvnelovania Cveni kanisTvis, aseve, TmisTvis,
icavs ra orives simSralisgan.
7. lobio _ mdidaria gansakuTrebuli
cilebiT, romlebic, Cveulebriv, deficituria adamianisTvis. es cilebi aucilebe-
lia Tmis regularuli kvebisTvis.
8. citrusebi _ maTi meSveobiT Cven SegviZlia, miviRoT vitaminebis sruli nakrebi, romlebic sasargebloa Cveni janmrTelobisTvis.
isini aseve mniSvnelovan rols TamaSobs Tmis
normaluri ganviTarebisTvis.
9. omega-3 cximovani mJavebi _ mudmivad
karg mdgomareobaSi inarCunebs Tmis folikulebs, uzrunvelyofs maT kvebas da droTa ganmavlobaSi Tmas daberebis saSualebas ar aZlevs. is, aseve, mniSvnelovania Tmis cvenis
profilaqtikaSic.
10. zeiTunis zeTi _ uzrunvelyofs Tmis bzinvarebasa da Zalas.
gverdi moamzada
maia fircxalavam
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rZis produqtebis gadaWarbebulma miRebam
SesaZloa, adreuli sikvdili gamoiwvios
m
mecnierebi miiCneven, rom naRebis, yvelis, naRebis karaqis, nayinisa da Sededebuli rZis gadaWarbebulma miRebam, SesaZloa, adreuli sikvdili
gamoiwvios. eqspertTa gancxadebiT, es gansakuTrebiT qalebs exeba, romlebic sarZeve jirkvlebis
avTvisebiani simsivniT itanjebian.
amerikelma mecnierebma cximiani rZis produqtebsa da simsivniT gamowveuli sikvdilis maRal risks Soris
kavSiri aRmoaCines. rZis produqtebis moqmedeba qalis sqe-
sobriv steroidul hormonze _ estrogenzea damokidebuli.
rZis produqtebSi estrogenis Semcveloba Zalian maRalia,
radgan fermebSi rZes xSirad make Zroxebisgan iReben.
mecnierTa kvlevis mixedviT, qalebSi, romlebic yoveldRiurad erT an met ulufa cximiani rZis produqts iRebdnen, kiboTi gamowveuli sikvdili 49 procentiT maRali iyo.
ganaTlebul qalTan qorwineba mamakacis
sicocxles axangrZlivebs
S
premieri
vedi mecnierebi mividnen daskvnamde, rom ganaTlebul qalTan qorwineba mamakacis janmrTelobaze
dadebiTad aisaxeba. kvlevaSi 1,5 milionma ojaxurma wyvilma miiRo monawileoba.
Sedegebis analizisas Svedebi mividnen daskvnamde, rom colis ganaTleba pirdapir kavSirSia
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mamakacebs qalebi zamTarSi
ufro moswonT
q
alebi mamakacebisTvis
zamTarSi gacilebiT simpaTiurad da mimzidvelad
gamoiyurebian.
aseT
daskvnamde mividnen harvardis universitetis mecnierebi
mecnierebis azriT, aq saqme qalebSi ki ara, Tavad mamakacebSia. zamTris
periodSi mamakacebi qalebs sxvanairad uyureben, uZRvnian leqsebsa da
simRerebs.
eqsperimentis Casatareblad mecnierebma 114 moxalise mamakaci SearCies. maT aCvenes sxvadasxva sezonze
gadaRebuli qalTa suraTebi. zamTris TveebSi swored lamazi tani gaxda gacilebiT mimzidveli mamakacebisTvis.
mecnierebma mamakacebSi aseTi cvlileba mamakacur hormonsa da fsiqologias Soris ryevebs daukavSires. siciveebis
dadgomasTan erTad, planetis Zlier naxevars qalis siTbo da zrunva gansakuTrebiT sWirdeba.
tkbileuli ar asuqebs
t
kbileuli ar asuqebs. Sesabamisi daskvna
amerikelma mecnierebma gaakeTes.
mecnierebma gamoikvlies 5 aTasze meti
adamiani, romlebic tkbileuls sxvadasxva proporciiTa da drois intervaliT
miirTmevdnen.
rogorc gairkva, yvelas erTnairi
Sedegi aRmoaCnda. mecnierTa mtkicebiT, isini, vinc
iSviaTad Wamdnen tkbileuls da isinic, vinc xSirad miirTmevdnen mas, erTnairad iyvnen midrekili
simsuqnisken, gulisa da sxva daavadebebisken.
saqarozis gamo eqsperimentis monawileebs arc arteriulma wnevam auwiaT da arc sisxlSi qolesterinis donem.
amis miuxedavad, dietologebis rekomendaciiT, tkbileulis miReba SezRuduli raodenobiT sastikad akrZalulia. eqsperimenti konditerTa asociaciis mxardaWeriT Catarda.
dietologebma mavnebeli saaxalwlo produqtebis sia
Seadgines
d
qmris janmrTelobis mdgomareobasTan. sainteresoa, rom
mamakacis inteleqti qalis janmrTelobaze aseT zegavlenas
ar axdens. mecnierebi gamovlenil kanonzomierebas ase xsnian: swored coli iRebs saWiro gadawyvetilebebs ojaxis
cxovrebaSi, xSir SemTxvevebSi is adgens sakveb racions. ganaTlebuli qali yvelafers optimalurad wyvets, rac pozitiurad zemoqmedebs rogorc mis, ise ojaxis sxva wevrebis
janmrTelobaze.
dietologebma yvelaze mavnebeli saaxalwlo produqtebis sia
Seadgines.
yvelaze mavnebel produqtad eqimebma maionezi miiCnies, romelsac
xSirad iyeneben sxvadasxva salaTSi, maT Sorisaa yvelasTvis sayvareli òlivie~. dietologTa azriT, aseTi kerZebi sasurvelia, mcenareuli da zeiTunis zeTis Semadgeneli salaTebiT SevcvaloT.
saaxalwlo sufris mavnebel produqtad dietologebma aseve miiCnies alkoholuri koqteilebi da Sampanuri. koqteili mavnebelia imitom, rom
alkoholisa da ualkoholo sasmelebis narevi mZime nabaxusevs iwvevs, Sampanuri
ki SesaZloa, gulZmarvis mizezi gaxdes, amitom dietologebi gvirCeven mxolod
erTi bokaliT davkmayofildeT.
eqimebi aseve gvirCeven, uari vTqvaT cximian xorcian kerZebze, sasurvelia,
sufraze kurdRlis an qaTmis xorcis kerZebi gvqondes. romlebic SedarebiT
dieturia.
is, visac kuWis daavadebebi awuxebs, unda moeridos mandarins, radgan es produqti, SesaZloa, negatiurad aisaxos nawlavebsa da kuWis lorwovan garsze.
mecnierebma daadgines, ratom ar
axsovT adamianebs bavSvobis
adreuli wlebi
b
evr adamians bavSvobis wlebis gaxseneba uWirs. mecnierTa azriT,
amis mizezi sicocxlis pirvel
wlebSi neironebis maRali doziT
gamoyofaa. tvinis axali ujredebis formireba zrdis swavlis unars, magram is amave dros Slis
Zvel mogonebebs.
ingliseli mecnierebis TqmiT, tvinis zonaSi neirogenezi, romelic mexsierebasTan
aris dakavSirebuli, Tavis piks dabadebamde
da mis Semdeg aRwevs. zrdis paralelurad ki maCvenebeli daqveiTebas iwyebs. specialistebma
daadgines, rogor moqmedebs neirogenezi tvinSi `mexsierebis sacavze~.
mecnierebi axalgazrda da xandazmul Tagvebs akvirdebodnen. mozrdil cxovelebs Tu
neirogenezis done mexsierebis formirebis Semdeg ezrdebodaT da es zogierTi adreuli
informaciis dakargvis fons qmnida, axalgazrda cxovelebSi piriqiT iyo, neirogenezis
daqveiTeba, mexsierebis formirebis Semdeg, informaciis kargad damaxsovrebaze metyvelebda.
rac ufro dabali iyo neirogenezis done, miT ufro meti mogoneba iyo aqtivSi. mecnierebisTvis cnobilia sabavSvo amneziis Sesaxebac _ patarebs axsovT garkveuli movlenebi, magram mcire xniT. 4-5 wlamde fiqsirdeba hipokampis maRali aqtivoba, romelic informaciis
stabilur Senaxvas xels uSlis.
TeTri soko wonis daklebaSi dagexmarebaT
T
eTri soko warmatebulad Caanacvlebs wiTel xorcs da amave dros xels Seuwyobs
wonis daklebas. Sesabamis daskvnamde jons hopkinsis universitetis specialistebi mividnen. mecnierebi erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi klinikur cdebs atarebdnen.
kvlevis monawileebi
iyvnen Warbi woniT
Sewuxebuli adamianebi, maTgan 88 procents qalebi Seadgendnen. eqsperimentis monawileTa saSualo
asaki 49 weli gaxldaT.
eqsperimentis 73 monawile
erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi yoveldRe wiTeli xorcis nacvlad
mcire raodenobiT TeTr sokos
miirTmevda, danarCenebi ki Tavisi Cveuli racioniT Semoifarglebodnen. sakontrolo periodis ganmavlobaSi yvela monawilem, romlebmac sokos sasargeblod uari Tqves xorcze, wonaSi sami kilogramiT daikles. wonaSi daklebulebi, nakleb kaloriasa da cxims moixmardnen,
vidre sakontrolo jgufis wevrebi. maT SeumcirdaT sxeulis wonis indeqsi, aseve gauumjobesdaT sxeulis proporciebi.
gverdi moamzada
maia fircxalavam
38 premieri
#16 (016)
SeiaraRebul ZalebSi mimdinare sportuli Sejibri `gorgasliani~
dasrulda
s
aqarTvelos SeiaraRebul ZalebSi mimdinare sportuli Sejibri „gorgasliani”
dasrulda. Tavdacvis saministros SemecnebiT-saganmanaTleblo centrSi turniris
sazeimo daxurvis ceremoniali gaimarTa.
„gorgasliani” sportis oTx saxeobaSi Catarda. saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli
Zalebis specialuri operaciebis Zalebma turniris sam gundur saxeobaSi pirveli adgili daikaves. xelCarTul brZolaSi, sabrZolo mravalWidsa da mZleosnoba estafetaSi gamarjvebisTvis samxedro mosamsaxureebi 3 gardamavali TasiT da medlebiT
dajildovdnen. xolo Sejibris mTavari prizi - mglisgamosaxulebiani muzaradi da sa-
uefas saTao ofisSi CempionTa ligis 1/8 finalis wilisyra
gaimarTa
S
veicariis qalaq nionSi, uefas saTao ofisSi CempionTa ligis 1/8 finalis wilisyra gaimarTa. am etapis pirveli matCebi 18-19 da 25-26 Tebervals gaimarTeba,
sapasuxo matCebi ki 11-12 da 18-19 marts.
1/8 finalSi gundebi ase dawyvildnen: manCester siti - barselona, olimpiakosi
- manCester iunaitedi, milani - atletiko, baieri - pari sen-Jermeni, galaTasarai
- Celsi, Salke 04 - reali, zeniti - borusia, arsenali - baierni.
2013-2014 wlebis CempionTa ligis finals 24 maiss portugaliis dedaqalaqi
lisaboni, stadioni da luSi umaspinZlebs.
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fransua olandi soWis olimpiadis gaxsnas ar daeswreba
afrangeTis prezidenti fransua olandi soWis olimpiadis gaxsnas ar daeswreba.
qveynis sagareo saqmeTa ministris gancxadebiT, arcerTi frangi maRalCinosani,
maT Soris arc prezidenti soWSi ar gaemgzavreba. loran fabiusi warmatebebs
usurvebs ruseTs soWis olimpiadaze da acxadebs, rom fransua olandi ar aris
gaTvaliswinebuli olimpiadaze.
safrangeTis sagareo saqmeTa ministri ar ganmartavs, ra gaxda gadawyvetilebis miRebis mizezi. gamocemaSi aseve naTqvamia, rom safrangeTis prezidenti ar aris pirveli piri,
romelic soWis olimpiadas boikots
ucxadebs. cnobilia, rom zamTris
olimpiadis gaxsnas ar daeswrebian
germaniis, holandiisa da poloneTis
pirveli pirebi.
brZolo far-xmali specialuri operaciebis Zalebis meTaurs, vice-polkovnik dimitri
kiknaZes gadaeca. mTavari prizi mas generaluri Stabis ufrosma, general-maiorma vaxtang
kapanaZem gadasca.
„gorgaslianis” meoTxe saxeobis - Wadrakis gamarjvebulebi saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli
Zalebis sahaero Tavdacvis brigadis samxedro mosamsaxureebi gaxdnen. maT turniris gardamavali Tasi da medlebi generaluri Stabis administraciuli departamentis ufrosma,
polkovnikma zurab aslamazaSvilma gadasca.
dResve, saqarTvelos SeiaraRebul ZalebSi Catarebuli 2013 wlis Svidkaca ragbis gamarjvebuli gundebi da xelCarTuli brZolis instruqtorebi Sesabamisi medlebiTa da serTifikatebiT dajildovnen.
„gorgaslianis” turnirSi monawile samxedro mosamsaxureebs sityviT mimarTa generaluri
Stabis ufrosma. general-maiorma vaxtang kapanaZem samxedro mosamsaxureebs turnirSi gamarjveba miuloca da warmatebebi usurva. „am SemTxvevaSi damarcxebuli ar aris. yvela, vinc
ki monawileobda am RonisZiebebSi, gamarjvebulia, vinaidan janmrTeloba, janmrTeli suli,
Zliereba, Zala - es qarTveli meomris Camoyalibebis sawindari da aucilebeli piroba. es
ara marto fizikur jamrTelobas exeba, es sruliad moralur Zalasac ukavSirdeba” aRniSna generaluri Stabis ufrosma.
RonisZiebaze saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli Zalebis mTavarma moZRvarma, dekanozma daviT
londariZem piradi Semadgenloba daloca. daxurvis ceremonialSi monawile samxedro mosamsaxureebma da mowveulma stumrebma wuTieri dumiliT pativi miages saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTlianobisaTvis da saerTaSoriso misiebSi daRupul mebrZolta xsovnas. Sesrulda saqarTvelos saxelwmifo himnic.
Sejibri „gorgasliani” samxedro mosamsaxureTa fizikuri momzadebisa da sabrZolo
suliskveTebis amaRlebas isaxavs miznad. turniri 20 noembers daiwyo. masSi monawileoba
saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli Zalebis qveiTi brigadebisa da qvedanayofebis jariskacebma
miiRes.
2013 wlis falavani paata
RviniaSvili gaxda
c
irkis arenaze qarTuli
Widaobis turniri - falavnoba 2013 Catarda. sportisa da axalgazrdobis
saqmeTa
saministros,
olimpiuri komitetis da
qarTuli Widaobis federaciis erToblivad organizebul
turnirze gamarjvebulebi 4 woniT
kategoriaSi gamovlidnen, Catarda
absoluturi falavnoba, romlis gamarjvebuls prizad mersedesis markis
avtomanqana ML-is jipi gadaeca.
saqarTvelos 2013 wlis falavani
qareleli paata RviniaSvili gaxda, romelmac finalSi xaSureli
giorgi nozaZe damatebiT droSi
daamarcxa. mesame adgili ki beqa RviniaSvilma daikava.
falavnobamde Cempion-priziorebi
oTx woniT kategoriaSi: 80, 90, 100 da
+100 kilogramebSi gamovlindnen da
umaRlesi titulisTvis brZolac swored am wonebis oTx-oTxma saukeTeso moWidavem gaagrZela. Cempioni da priziori sportsmenebi medlebiTa da fuladi prizebiT dajildovdnen,
turniris mTliani saprizo fondi 35 000 lari iyo.
gverdi moamzada giorgi navrozaSvilma
#16 (016)
premieri
18-24 dekemberi 2013
verZi 21.03-21.04
kuro 22.04-21.05
kargi periodia ojaxSi finansuri konfliqtis mosagvareblad. samsaxurSi erideT zedmet danaxarjs. uari ar TqvaT
damatebiT samuSaoze mxolod imitom,
rom adre msgavsi samuSao ar SegisrulebiaT. SegiZliaT zomierad gariskoT. SeZlebT daasruloT yvela is
saqme,romelic didi xnis ganmavlobaSi
unda dagesrulebinaT.
kirCxibi 22.06-22.07
kargi droa uZravi qonebis SesaZenad.
materialuri mdgomareoba stabiluria.
nu iCqarebT mniSvnelovani gadawyvetilebis miRebis dros. jobs, kargad dafiqrdeT, radgan Secdoma finansur kraxamde migiyvanT. arasasurveli
dRea sxvadasxva saxis garigebis, xelSekrulebisTvis. ukeTes periods
daelodeT.
kursi axali biznesis ganviTarebisken aiReT. magram ar Rirs mimdinare
gegmebi daiviwyoT. erideT moulodnel emociebs, radgan saqmian partniorebTan urTierTobis gafuWebis
albaToba maRalia. kargi dRea uZravi
qonebis gasayidad. yvela wamowyebaSi
warmateba gelodebaT, Tamamad SegiZliaT axali saqmis dawyeba.
lomi 23.07-22.08
saqmian partniorebTan urTierTobisas maqsimaluri sifrTxile unda
gamoiCinoT. magram ar Rirs gawyvitoT
saqmiani kavSirebi, radgan maTTan urTierTobiT Tqveni biznesi izrdeba. gabedulad imoqmedeT. maRldeba Tqveni
saqmiani aqtivoba. kargi droa kontraqtebis dasadebad. kargi droa biznessaqmianobisTvis.
saswori 23.09-22.10
Rriankali 23.10-21.11
SesaZlebelia materialuri sirTuleebis warmoqmna. saqmiani winadadebiT
mogmarTaven, magram naCqarev gadawyvetilebas nu miiRebT, radgan rogorc
aRmoCndeba, igi momgebiani araa
TqvenTvis. Tqveni gamocdileba saSualebas mogcemT sworad gankargoT Tanxebi.
Tqven SeZlebT, adre dawyebuli saqme
warmatebiT daasruloT.
mosalodnelia materialuri mdgomareobis gaumjobeseba. saSualebas mogecemaT ufro gadamWrelad imoqmedoT, nebismieri sakiTxis ganxilvisas dafiqrdiT,
nu miiRebT naCqarev gadawyvetilebas. ar
aris sasurveli garigebis dadeba. frTxilad, ecadeT samsaxurSi ar mogivideT
Secdomebi. SesaZleblobis mixedviT gadadeT samsaxureobrivi mivlineba.
Txis rqa 22.12-19.01
ecadeT dafiqrdeT da gadawyvetilebas dauyovnebliv nu miiRebT. SesaZloa seriozuli cvlilebebi saqmeebSi. nu endobiT ucnob adamianebs. SesaZlebelia movlenebis
moulodneli Semobruneba, gafrTxildiT: situacia SesaZloa kontrolidan gamovides. iyaviT mSvidi da
TavSekavebuli.
merwyuli 20.01-18.02
SesaZloa sakuTari iluziis gavlenis
qveS aRmoCndeT, ar aris rekomendebuli
raime saxis dokumentze xelis mowera,
garigeba. emociur aRmasvlas igrZnobT,
magram arc erT SemTxvevaSi ar dakargoT
saRi azri. swor finansur politikas mihyvebiT. sasurveli droa saqmiani Sexvedrebis da molaparakebisTvis. SesaZloa
bevri orazrovani situacia Seiqmnas.
ornaldo blumma miranda qerisTan
qorwinebis gadarCenis axali gza moZebna
h
olivudis msaxiobma orlando blumma top-model miranda qerisTan qorwinebis gadarCenis saSualeba moZebna. msaxiobma ganacxada, rom maT
SvilTan erTad axal zelandiaSi, kamerebisgan
moSorebiT cxovreba unda scadon.
oqtombris bolos orlando blumma da miranda qerim ganacxades, rom ukanaskneli Tveebis
ganmavlobaSi erTmaneTs nel-nela CamoSordnen da 6-wliani
Tanacxovrebis Semdeg ganqorwineba gadawyvites.
erT-erT bolo interviuSi ornaldo blumma aRiara, rom
maT erTmaneTi isev uyvarT. „erTmaneTi gviyvars, Cven ojaxi
varT, Cven erTmaneTis cxovrebaSi dRis bolomde vrCebiT
da rogorc mosiyvarule mSoblebi, yvelafris miuxedavad,
vzrunavT Cvens vaJze - flinze. xandaxan cxovrebaSi yvelaferi ise ar xdeba, rogorc gvsurda, magram sabednierod,
me da miranda mozrdili adamianebi varT, me 36-is, is 30-is.
Cven vagrZelebT erTmaneTze da Svilze zrunvas”, - ganacxada msaxiobma.
varskvlavurma wyvilma qorwinebis SesanarCuneblad daxmarebis mizniT, fsiqologsac mimarTa. magram holivudis
msaxiobi konsultaciebiT ar dakmayofilda. ornalod blumma qorwinebis gadasarCenad axali saSualeba moZebna. is axal
zelandiaSi gadasvlaze ocnebobs, sadac „beWdebis mbrZanebelis” gadaRebebi mimdinareobda.
„me vaRmerTeb axal zelandias. am qveyanam saocrad SeinarCuna pirvandeli saxe. dro da problemebi mas ar Seexo. iq
adamianebi TavianTi siamovnebisTvis cxovroben, ar arian
Sepyrobilebi materialuri faseulobebiT. ai magaliTad niuiorkSi yvela gamudmebiT dakavebulia „SopingebiT” - xan erT
maRaziaSi Seirbenen, xan meoreSi. aq ki mxolod gaseirnebaze,
bunebiT, zRviTa da gemrieli kerZebiT tkbobaze fiqroben.
meti araferi undaT. es Cemi azriT SesaniSnavia”, - acxadebs
ornaldo blumi.
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18-24 dekemberi 2013
tyupebi 22.05-21.06
kargi droa xelSekrulebis, saqmiani
winadadebis, finansuri garigebisTvis.
saqme win midis, imedianad xarT. axla
saWiroa axali proeqtis ganxorcielebisTvis yvela detali gaaanalizoT. kargi droa axali ideebis gansaxorcieleblad, saqmeSi gagimarTlebT. xelidan
ar gauSvaT SesaZlebloba, ganaxorcieloT Tqveni ideebi.
qalwuli 23.08-22.09
Sexvedrebi da biznesgarigebebi
diliT awarmoeT. kargi da warmatebuli droa mogzaurobis, mivlinebebis
da gadaadgilebisTvis, vaWrobis da
sasamarTlo saqmeebisTvis. Tqven SeZlebT, bevri dagegmili saqme daasruloT. kargi da sasargeblo droa saqmiani Sexvedrebis, finansuri garigebebis da xelSekrulebis gasaformeblad.
mSvildosani
22.11-21.12
planetebis ganlageba Seaferxebs saqmis normalur mimdinareobas. SesaZloa rTuli saubari
xelmZRvanelobasTan, romelic
Tqvens sasargeblod dasruldeba
da Tqvens reputacias gaaZlierebs.
Rirs gadaxedoT Tqveni biznesis
ganviTarebis ZiriTad mimarTulebas, kardinaluri cvlilebebis
Setana saqmes sasikeTod waadgeba.
Tevzebi 19.02-20.03
ecadeT, Secdomebi ar mogivideT samuSaoze. nu daniSnavT molaparakebebs.
nebismieri finansuri problemebis gadawyveta sxva droisTvis gadadeT, xels nu
moawerT raime saxis dokunents. umjobesia daisvenoT: saqmeSi warmatebas nu
eliT. Tu daiwyoT raime axali saqme,
warmatebiT ar dasruldeba, Sexvedrebi
sasurvelia sxva droisTvis gadadoT.
40 premieri
P
l
egendebi Tan
sdevda meri
SarvaSiZis
cxovrebas...
am ramdenime wlis winaT qnma marina mxeiZem miambo:
èrTxel SeuZlod myof mamasTan, misi didi xnis nacnobi
eqimi moviwvieT sakonsultaciod. isaubres, uamravi ram
moigones,
Semdeg
wamlebi
gamouwera, daariga. roca vacilebdi, es darbaiseli moxuci
momibrunda da meubneba: neba
momeciT, qaliSvilo, Sublze
gemTxvioT. es rusulad warmoTqmuli fraza ufro xatis
mTxvevas Seefereboda. Sevcbi,
eqimi mixvda, rom misi narTaulad naTqvami ver gavige... _
Zalian hgavxarT mamidaTqvens...
nesterovma, abasTumnis karis
eklesiis moxatvisas, RvTismSoblis saxe meri SarvaSiZis
STagonebiT Seqmna! nuTu, ar
icodiT?! eqimi rom gavacile,
mamas davekiTxe.
ès mec msmenia, magram
verafers dagidastureb, Cveni
stumari ki wlebi muSaobda abas-
tereso movlenis mowme da
monawile gaxldaT es marTlac,
rom legendaruli qalbatoni.
danamdvilebiT cnobilia, rom meri peterburgidan
saqarTveloSi, kerZod quTaisSi, bolSevikuri gadatrialebis
(dasawyisi ix. #14-15)
wyvili dedaqalaqSi gadavida
sacxovreblad. meris Tan gahyva dedamisic~.
aTwleulebis Semdeg
poeti kolau nadiraZe sajarod gaacxadebs, rom is da galaktioni am jvrisweras eswrebod-
giorgi erisTavi da ufliswuli aleqsi
Semdeg dabrunda. 1919 wels is
giorgi (giguSa) nikolozis Ze
erisTavs gahyva colad. leib
gvardiis oficeri giorgi
erisTavi nikoloz I-is adiutan-
#16 (016)
nen... magram ufro sagulisxmoa
galaktionis 1950-iani wlebis
erTi Canaweri: `mas Semdeg, rac
daibeWda Cemi leqsi `meri~,
Zalian xSirad mkiTxavdnen, vin
iyo es meri, magram yovelTvis
uars vambobdi pasuxze. rogorc
poeti,
me
vsargeblobdi
uflebiT, TiToeuli leqsisTvis damerqmia is saxeli,
romelic msurda. erTxel me
amis gamo gulic ki momivida,
TiTqmis gacofebaSi movedi da
amxanagebma gaiges, rom meti
aRar SeiZleba maTi Caciveba.
meri, albaT, arsebobda. iyo
aseTi qali!~
uamravi ram dawerila
am Temaze, gamovyofT mweral
sergi Wilaias naazrevs: `meri~
ar aris erTniSniani, erTganzomilebiani, pirdapiri, erTi
qalis konkretuli jvrisweris
idebuli rusi aristokratebi
da inteligenciis warmomadgenlebi. sakmarisia gavixsenoT
sergei raxmaninovi, legendaruli ana pavlovas partniori,
baleroni mixeil mordkini, mxatvrebi sergei sudeikini, saveli sorini, didi da marinis
Teatris saxelganTqmuli msaxiobebi, meri SarvaSiZis peterburgeli araerTi nacnobi da
megobari. TbilisSi Cqefda
kulturuli cxovreba, idgmeboda SesaniSnavi speqtaklebi,
imarTeboda benefisebi, mxatvrebis gamofenebi, poeziis
saRamoebi... restornebi gadavsebuli iyo rCeuli sazogadoebiT. TiToeuli sufra
poeziisa da silamazis apoTeozi
gaxldaT. marTalia, konkretulad aravis aRuweria meri SarvaSiZis imdroindeli cxovreba,
magram im saintereso da dramatuli epoqis amsaxveli araerTi mogonebaa SemorCenili. Cven
mxolod erT-erT maTganze SevaCerebT Tqvens yuradRebas. am
ramdenime wlis winaT q-on nino
xoferias redaqciiT, meri SarvaSiZis megobris, babo dadianis
mogonebebi gamoqveynda. gasabWoebuli saqarTvelos tragediis amsaxveli umniSvnelovanesi dokumenturi wyaro. q-ni
babo mTeli cxovreba malulad
werda am dRiurs, werda STamomavlebisTvis, aragamosaqveyneblad. ixsenebda dros gardasuls, igonebda im adamianebs,
romelTa saxelis gagonebac
acofebdaT bolSevikebs. igonebda im gmirebs, romelTa
sicocxlec zvarakad Seewira
samSoblos Tavisuflebas. werda, magram ara mgonia, imedi
hqonoda, rom am Canawerebs
odesme ixilavda qarTveli sazogadoeba. Tavs nebas ver
mivcem Tundac amonaridi
meri SarvaSiZe, axal-senaki, mxeiZeebis baRSi, 1915 w.
Tbilisi saxazino, Teatri
quTaisi
TumanSi, albaT, man ukeT iciso~, _ da saxeze Rimilma gadauara.
nebismieri adamianis, miT
ufro sazogadoebisTvis saintereso pirovnebis biografiuli portretis srulfasovnad
giorgi
erisTavi
gadmosacemad piradi arqivis
gacnoba aucilebelia. samwuxarod, meri SarvaSiZis cxovrebis aRsawerad Cven am siamovnebas moklebulni varT. ar
viciT, werda Tu ara dRiurebs,
drois msaxvral xels gadaurCa
Tu ara misi arqivi... Tu arada,
meoce saukunis ramdeni sain-
ti gaxldaT da wlebis ganmavlobaSi samefo karze msaxurobda. saqarTveloSi dabrunebis
Semdeg is general-maioris
rangSi, qarTul armiaSi miiwvies
da ZiriTadad menSevikuri xelisuflebis mier warmoebul
diplomatiur molaparakebebSi
monawileobda,
rogorc
samxedro saqmis eqsperti. mas
Tanamedroveni erTxmad moixsenieben ganaTlebul da uaRresad keTilSobil pirovnebad.
qalbaton marina mxeiZesTan `meris~ legendazec
misaubria:
`mamaCemisgan
araerTxel gamigia, _ es yvelaferi xalxis fantaziaao,
quTaisis sazogadoebas, ubralod, sxva meri ver warmoedgina.
revoluciis Semdgom meri da
dedamisi, mamida nina, CvenTan
Camovidnen da erTad vcxovrobdiT daTeSiZis goraze. mamamisi,
prokofi
SarvaSiZe,
am
droisTvis gardacvlili iyo. is
1915 wels axal-senakSi gardaicvala da iqve davasaflaveT.
rodesac
merim
giguSa
erisTavze jvari daiwera, qorwilisTvis xoragi senakidan me
da varlam dadianma (meri SarvaSiZis deidaSvili) CamovzideT.
qarTuli aristokratiis xelmokleoba cnobili ambavia,
miT umetes im sayovelTao
gasaWiris wlebSi. qorwilSi arc
xalxmravloba yofila da arc
vinme ucxo. jvrisweris Semdeg
fotoebi paata qurdovaniZis kerZo koleqciidan
quTaisi,
TariRze dawerili leqsi. erTi
pirovnebis konteqstSi ver Caeteva es leqsi Tavisi Rrma,
zogadadamianuri filosofiiT,
siyvarulis uzenaesi cnebis
umaRlesi poeturi gamoxatviT,
magram raki xalxma aRiara da
arc galaktioni eurCeboda am
lamaz legendas, dae, ase iyos:
nu davacilebT galaktion tabiZis leqss `meris~ meri SarvaSiZis mSvenier saxes da igi unda
darCes rogorc legenda~.
Cven ki kvlav mivubrundeT 20-ani wlebis Tbilissa da axaljvardaweril bednier wyvils _ meri SarvaSiZesa
da giorgi erisTavs. im dros
TbilisSi
mravlad
iyvnen
bolSevikur vandalizms gamor-
klasikuri
gimnazia
gagacnoT, mkrexelobad mimaCnia! es wigni erTi sulis
amoTqmiT unda waikiTxo, Cemo
mkiTxvelo, rom kidev erTxel
gaiTaviso, rogori Semzaravi
saxadiT
_
rusuli
bolSevizmiT daavadda Cveni
bedkruli qveyana...
1921 wlis TebervalSi, meri SarvaSiZe iZulebuli
gaxda, samudamod damSvidobeboda samSoblos. bolSevikebis
SemoWris wina dReebSi, ojaxTan
da axloblebTan erTad, man
konstantinopols miaSura, sadac xelisuflebisgan molaparakebebze mivlinebuli meuRle
eguleboda.
(gagrZeleba Semdeg
nomerSi)
meri
SarvaSiZe
freilinas samosiT,
1913
peterburgi,
teqstis avtori paata qurdovaniZe
premieri

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