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barak obamas
09:36 31.01.2012
[The Washington Post]
Zvirfaso prezidento obama,
2011 wlis dasasruls sabWoTa kavSiris daSlidan 20 weli Sesrulda. oci wlis win saqarTvelos gauCnda Sansi liberaluri demokratiis principebze sakuTari saxelmwifoebrioba aRedgina da
Tavisufal samyaros mierTeboda.
aravis hqonda iluzia, rom es umtkivneulo da
martivi procesi iqneboda. Tumca 2003 wlis „var-
debis revoluciam“ bevr adamians, Cemi CaTvliT,
gauCina imis imedi, rom saqarTvelo pluralisturi demokratiis, kanonis uzenaesobis, adamianis
uflebebis pativiscemis da Tavisufali, Ria sazogadoebis Senebis gzas daadgeboda.
Cveni molodinebi daimsxvra, rodesac 2007 wlis mowmeni gavxdiT: sastikad darbeuli mSvidobiani momitingeebi, SturmiT aRebuli da daxuruli
damoukidebeli telekompania, sagangebo mdgomareobis gamocxadeba, politikuri opoziciis „ruseTis agentebad“ Seracxva, da mogvianebiT, mixeil saakaSvilis mier pirvel turSi
moparuli arCevnebi.
bolo wveTad iqca ugunuri CarTva
2008 wlis agvistos omSi, romelic
imiT dasrulda, rom ruseTma saqarTvelos teritoriebis okupacia moaxdina.
Sedegad, „vardebis revoluciidan“ rva wlis
Semdeg Cemi qveyana, sul raRac ramdenime warmatebiT, kvlav erTpartiuli avtoritarizmisa da realuri demokratiis gzajvaredinzea. postrevoluciur wlebSi miRweuli progresi ekonomikuri liberalizaciis, administraciuli reformis, efeqturi samTavrobo struqturebis, wvrilmani korufciis winaaRmdeg brZolisa da infrastruqturis ganviTarebis mimarTulebiT gafermkrTalda
pluralisturi politikuri sistemisa da kanonis
uzenaesobis deficitiT.
piriqiT, Cven miviReT supercentralizebuli,
faqtobrivad, neobolSevikuri marTvis stili, ro-
melmac Tavisi Tavi didi xnis win
amowura, da xels uSlis ara mxolod qveynis ganviTarebas, aramed
sakuTar miRwevebsac safrTxes uqmnis.
saqarTvelos mmarTveli elitis politikisadmi Cemi damokidebulebis miuxedavad, me optimisturad var ganwyobili im faqtis
mimarT, rom prezidenti saakaSvili am kviraSi
TeTr saxlSia miwveuli.
Cven viciT, rom am oficialur vizits sami weli dasWirda. viciT, rom demokratiuli institutebis da damoukidebeli sasamarTlos ararseboba,
adamianis uflebebisa da sakuTrebis uflebebis daucveloba, Tavdasxmebi da mudmivi kampania politikuri opoziciis winaaRmdeg, politikuri zewola mediasa da biznesze, umniSvnelovanes sakiTxebze gadawyvetilebis araoficialurad da gaumWvirvaled miRebis stili da elituri korufcia Cvens
mdgomareobas azianebs.
magram Cven viciT isic, rom saqarTvelo, romlis winaSec uamravi safrTxea, ar unda daisajos misi mmarTveli elitis SecdomebisTvis da es aris
is, rasac gulisxmobs aseve Cveni
strategiuli partnioroba. Sesabamisad, swored maSin, rodesac oqtomberSi saparlamento arCevnebia dagegmili, saqarTvelos yvela WeSmaritma
megobarma intensiuri dialogis gziT
unda daarwmunos prezidenti saakaSvili uari Tqvas xelisuflebaSi nebismier fasad darCenis mcdelobisgan, rac saqarTvelosTvis SeiZleba
fataluri aRmoCndes.
Cven viciT, rom amerikelebis mxardaWera saqarTvelos da qarTveli xalxis mimarT ar niSnavs
mxolod konkretuli lideris an politikuri
partiis mxardaWeras. es niSnavs imas, rom qarTvel
xalxs, yvela sxva xalxis msgavsad, aqvs Tavisufali da samarTliani arCevnebis ufleba. magram sa-
erTaSoriso demokratiuli Tanamegobrobis mxardaWeris gareSe es ocneba ver ganxorcieldeba. is,
rom es asea, Cven SarSan dekemberSi gamovcadeT,
rodesac SeerTebuli Statebis saelCom TbilisSi
gamoaqveyna gancxadeba qarTuli saarCevno sistemis, politikur partiebze kanonisa da konkurentuli saarCevno garemos xarvezebis Sesaxeb.
CvenTvis moaxloebuli saparlamento arCevnebi
saqarTveloSi gardamtexi momentia. Cven gvWirdeba
angariSvaldebuli mTavroba, mTavroba, romelsac,
rogorc gare, aseve Sida legitimacia gaaCnia;
prognozirebadi da sando partniori Cveni dasavleli mokavSireebisTvis. Cven gvWirdeba ucxouri
investiciebis mozidva, samuSao adgilebis Seqmna,
ukiduresi siRatakis daZleva, afxazeTsa da samxreT oseTSi konfliqtebis mogvareba da samxreT
kavkasiaSi usafrTxoebis xarisxis gazrda.
strategiuli partniorobis qartia SeerTebul
Statebs da saqarTvelos Soris, umniSvnelovanesia
saqarTvelos dRevandeli usafrTxoebisTvis da
momavalSi teritoriuli mTlianobis aRdgenisTvis. es Cems qveyanas rogorc politikuri, aseve
moraluri TvalsazrisiT pasuxismgeblobas akisrebs, raTa iyos Rirsi da SeZlos es partnioroba. aseTi Rirseuli partniorobis Sedegia qarTuli danayofebis gagzavna avRaneTSi – aucilebeli
msxverpli, romelic Cemma qveyanam gaiRo globaluri usafrTxoebis xelSewyobisTvis; meore
mxriv, aseTi partnioroba unda gamoricxavdes politikur da samxedro Secdomebs saqarTvelos
mTavrobis mxridan, radgan Cven natoSi gawevrianebisken miviswrafviT.
saparlamento arCevnebSi warmatebis SemTxvevaSi, me da Cemi politikuri partniorebi viRebT pasuxismgeblobas, rom srulad ganvaxorcielebT saqarTvelos mier deklarirebul sagareo politikur kurss da CamovayalibebT mravalpartiul politikur sistemas.
amitom, Cven varwmunebT amerikis SeerTebuli
Statebis liderebs da mTel demokratiul Tanamegobrobas, xeli Seuwyon da waaxalison qveynis
svla evroatlantikuri integraciisken da imavdroulad, gamoiyenon yvela SesaZlo resursi Tavisufali da samarTliani arCevnebis uzrunvelsayofad Cveni moqalaqeebisTvis 2012 wlis saparlamento arCevnebze.
yvela qarTveli imedovnebs, rom es viziti xelSesaxeb warmatebas moutans saqarTvelos demokratiuli gardaqmnis gzaze. da amiT Cveni ocnebac asruldeba.
biZina ivaniSvili,
saqarTvelo
2 saerTo gazeTi
xelisuflebis
20-T
TeTriani
maTxovrobis fonze
qarTvelebs axali sadebato
Tema gamouCndaT: wlis movlena
_ obama-sakaSvilis oficialuri
Sexvedra. miSas televiziebi ra
pozicias daiWeren da ra komentarebs gaakeTeben, zustad viciT.
mediasivrceSi maTi sapirwone
mxare ar arsebobs da bunebrivia,
datvirTva socialur qselebze
gadavida. iq ki didi ayalmayalia
atexili. yvela Tavis pozicias
icavs da sakuTari argumenti gaaCnia. mTavari frazaa: `velodebiT samarTlian arCevnebs da xelisuflebis oficialurad gadacemas~. es survili obamam JurnalistebTan saubrisas preskonferenciaze gamoTqva. frazas yvela
saTavisod iyenebs, Tumca unda
iTqvas, rom amaze Riad da amaze
mets amerikis delikaturi prezidenti verafers ityvis.
Zalian saintereso komentars
akeTebs qalbatoni salome zurabiSvili:
_ samwuxaro is aris, rom
araferi icvleba, ginda moskovSi
da ginda, vaSingtonSi dadiodnen
Cveni meTaurebi. agrZeleben imaT
enaze laparaks (Tarjimnebi gamoilia, Tu metiCroba Warbobs, ena
kargad vicio) madlobebis da
`Tavis qnevis~ garda, araferi
uTqvams `maRals~! amdeni xani
eloda am TuTxmet wuTs, ramdeni lobistis Tanxebi daixarja
da ra??? monuri kompleqsi ra
Zlieri yofila, ginda CrdiloeTiT iyurebode, ginda dasavleTiT... amaSi Cans, visi gazrdilia
miSa da edika rom misi magaliTis mimcemia!
obamam, samagierod, Tavisi
Tqva _ diplomatiuri reveransebis miRma: _ imedia, vnaxavT, am
yvelafris gagrZelebas `formaluri xelisuflebis gadacemiT~-ooooo! ise, erTxel ki SeeSala da instituciebis gaZlierebaze rom laparakobda, ruseTi
axsena da Semdeg gaaswora, saqarTveloo... `lapsus lingui~
yovelTvis bevris mTqmelia .....!
ekonomikuri
wiaRsvlebi gagania
arCevnebis dros
xelisuflebis Sefasebebi,
nacteleviziebis
daxmarebiT,
Sexvedris dasrulebisTanave movismineT. miuxedavad maTi didi
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
mondomebisa da aseT saqmeebSi
gamocdilebisa, bevris Tqma mainc ver SeZles, radgan saTqmeli araferi iyo. prezidentebis
Sexvedra sul TxuTmet wuTs
gagrZelda da ramdeni mniSvnelovani sakiTxis ganxilva SeiZleboda am mokle droSi, isedac
gasagebia. mTavar Temad nacteleviziebma amerikasa da saqarTvelos Soris Tavisufali vaWroba gansazRvres. oficialuri informaciiT, liderebma or qveya-
uwoda. es perspeqtiva rom diplomatiur laqlaqs ar scildeba, sadavo ar aris. saqarTvelos
statistikis samsaxuris informaciiT, amerika aT umsxviles
savaWro partniors Soris meSvide adgilzea. masTan vaWrobis
moculoba qveynis saerTo savaWro brunvaSi 4 procents ar
aRemateba. rac mTavaria, es moculoba SarSan mkveTrad Semcirda da TiTqmis ganaxevrda.
imave statistikis Tanaxmad, ame-
produqciis Sesyidvaze Tavs ar
iklaven.
gasayidi da wasaRebi araferi
gvaqvs da axla amnair qveyanas
ginda, Tavisufali savaWro reJimi dauwese da ginda, sabaJo gasasvlelebi mouSale saerTod,
erTi oxeria. ise, sad naxa obamam
gazrdili savaWro brunva da potencia, ar viciT. albaT, wina saRamos `rusTavi-2~-s usmina, meore dRes ki _ saqarTvelos prezidents.
nomikuri naxtomis safuZveli
iyo.
Cven ki gvesmis am gancxadebis
mniSvneloba, magram prezidents
Tu esmis, ra sWirs xelisuflebas, romelic iZulebulia, ococi TeTri amoacalos sakuTar
moqalaqeebs jibidan da marCenaldakargul bavSvebs aTi lari
CamoaWras oficialuri daxmarebidan?! ara gvgonia, radgan faqtebi sapirispiros amtkicebs.
ra sargebels
elis xelisufleba?
ara gvgonia, is wvrilmani mamaZaRlobebi, rac xelisuflebam
axali wlidan wamoiwyo, sakuTari jibeebis gasasqeleblad sWidebodes. ara imitom, rom patiosani xalxia da ar ikadreben. ubralod, amdenisTvis ar Seiwuxeben Tavs. isedac milionebi miaqvT saxlSi. saqme is aris, rom
biujets meti aRar SeuZlia da
xelisuflebas da mosaxleobas
yvela saWiroebas veRar ukmayofilebs. esenic sakuTar jibeebs
xom ar moaklebdnen? adgnen da,
mosaxleobidan daiwyes im biujetis Sevseba, rac Zalian aucilebelia imave mosaxleobisTvis.
xelisuflebis gamaTxovrebis
kidev erTi magaliTia is, rom
socialurad daucvel arasrulwlovanebs, romlebic isedac
maTxovrul socialur pensias
Rebuloben, anu ar hyavT marCenali, axali wlidan Camoakles
`velodebiT samarTlian arCevnebs da
xelisuflebis oficialurad gadacemas~
obamas diplomatiuri lafsusebi
da saakaSvilis savaWro naxtomebi
nas Soris urTierTobebi, saqarTvelos kontribucia avRaneTis
operaciaSi da aSS-isa da saqarTvelos Soris Tavisufali vaWrobis SesaZlebloba ganixiles.
Turme, bolo periodSi amerika-saqarTvelos Soris savaWro brunva gaizarda da prezidetma obamam Tavisufali vaWrobis Sesaxeb potenciur SeTanxmebas ormxrivad momgebiani
rikidan importis wili bolo
ori wlis ganmavlobaSi faqtobrivad, ar Secvlila da 3,5
procentis garSemo trialebs.
rac Seexeba eqsports, aq mkveTri klebaa. 2010 wlis maCvenebeli iyo 11,5 procenti, 2011
wels ki _ 6,6 procenti. konkretulad, ris xarjze moxda es
vardna, jer ucnobia, Tumca
faqtia, rom amerikaSi qarTuli
gazeT `asaval-d
dasavalis~
mTavar redaqtors laSa nadareiSvils
Zmao laSa,
erTi usiamovno ambavi unda gacnobo: `asineTas kantoris~ TanamSromlebi apireben
`asaval-d
dasavali~ da `saerTo gazeTi~, anu Sen da me, erTmaneTs dagvajaxon da am mizniT axali Woris gavrceleba daiwyes.
ra Sinaarsisaa es Wori, amas maSin getyvi, roca piradad SevxvdebiT, axla ki imis
TqmaRa SemiZlia, rom daaxloebiT vici, vin arian am ubadruki Woris mTxzvelebi. isic
vici, ra saxelwodebis qveS moqmedebs maTi axladgamomcxvari `kantora~ da ra binZur
informaciebs fantaven waRma-u
ukuRma, raTa adamianebi erTmaneTs wahkidon da gadaamteron.
garwmuneb, Sors ar aris is dro, roca am binZur zraxvebs farda aexdeba da maT namdvil saxes niRbis gareSe dainaxavs qarTveli sazogadoeba.
Zmao laSa, darwmunebuli var, am wvrilfexa provokatorebsa da avantiuristebs, Tu
isini SenTan gamoCndebian da Sens SecdomaSi Seyvanas gabedaven, iseT pasuxs gascem, rac
Cvens ocdaaTwlian uxinjo megobrobas Seefereba.
keTili survilebiT _
vaxtang xarCilava
`saerTo gazeTi~
mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava
gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~
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amerikasTan Tavisufali savaWro reJimis absurdulobas
eqspertebic xazs usvamen. eqsperti daviT narmania acxadebs,
rom aSS-sTan Tavisufali vaWrobis Sesaxeb SeTanxmebis gaformeba mniSvnelovania, magram
arsebiTi mniSvneloba mxolod
grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi eqneba, radgan dReisaTvis saqarTveloSi erovnuli warmoeba ganviTarebuli ar aris, saeqsporto
produqciis ararsebobis gareSe
ki am SeTanxmebisgan sargebels
ver miviRebT.
aqve ori sityviT im xbos
aRtkinebis Sesaxeb, rac Cvens
prezidents daemarTa, obamas SeTavazeba rom moismina: _ Zalze
mniSvnelovania prezident obamas gancxadeba imis Sesaxeb, rom
is mzad aris, mxari dauWiros
ekonomikuri TanamSromlobis
axal formats. unda gvesmodes,
rom uaxloes wlebSi amas saqarTvelos ekonomikisTvis warmoudgenlad didi mniSvneloba
aqvs. amerikas Tavisufali vaWrobis xelSekruleba uaxloes
mokavSireebTan aqvs gaformebuli da yvela im qveynisTvis, romelTanac xelSekruleba gaformda, es Zalze seriozuli eko-
10-10 lari. rogorc `liberTi
bankSi~ ganmartaven, am Tanxas
xelisufleba bavSvTa dazRvevisken mimarTavs. savaraudod, dazRveva, ise rogorc pensionerebTan,
seqtembridan daiwyeba. manamde
risTvis grovdeba CamoWrili
Tanxebi, aravin uwyis. wina wlis
miwuruls, erTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi, mTavrobam laparakiT aiklo
satelevizio sivrce, rom 370
aTas pensionerTan erTad dazRvevas 250 aTasi 0-dan 5 wlamde
asakis bavSvi miiRebda. maSin premieri gilauri acxadebda, rom
cvlileba, 2012 wlis biujetis
proeqtSi Sedis da gazrdili
biujetis proeqti gansaxilvelad parlaments uaxloes dReebSi waredginebao. Tu gazrdili
biujetia da miliardebs veRar
iTvliT, Tqve dalocvilebo, 5
wlis zemoTac daazRvieT bavSvebi da umamo oblebs 10 lars nu
waarTmevT. an iqneb gekiTxaT maTi mSoblebisTvis, ra urCeviaT,
is aTi lari Tu virtualuri
dazRveva.
kidev erTi saxelisuflebo
maqinacia wylis gadasaxads exeba. Telasma am TveSi Zalian daagviana gadasaxadis qviTrebis Camorigeba. Telasi, romelic erT
dRes ar gapatiebs arc erTi gadasaxadis gadauxdelobas, meore
kviraa icdis da ver arigebs
qviTrebs, radgan reestri jer
bolomde ver Camoyalibebula.
manana gegiZe
gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.
SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs.
informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba
SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.
Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba.
‹ am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.
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gvesaubreba msaxiobi da
reJisori soso jaWvliani::
_ batono soso, guSin, ro ca dagirekeT interviuze Se saTanxmeblad, naxevari kilog rami demokratia maqvs mxo lod napovnio miTxariT. da narCeni kilogramebi sad aris?
_ diliT rom avdgebi, iseT
informaciebs vigeb kilogramebi xan iwevs, xan imatebs. yvelaze cudia, roca adamiani gaurkvevlobaSia. merab kostavam
Tqva _ daWrili roca viyavi,
maSin yvelaze Tavisufali viyavio. es, erTi Tve
sakuTar Tavze mec gamovcade da marTlac imdenad kargad viyavi Sinaganad, ver agiRwerT,
arada
vSimSilobdi.
2012 weli mZime iqneba,
didi da patara problema globaluri ar arsebobs, zogisTvis milioni SeiZleba lari iyos,
amitom
qarTvelebma,
Cven Cveni qeTo vitiroT, Cvens saqmes mivxedoT. faqtia, gaCnda didi imedi, romelsac unda moveferoT, patara
bavSviviT movuaroT, raTa ar Sescivdes. qarTvelma xalxma es imedi unda
gamozardos, mere aaRzevos.
xalxis SekveTa aseTia _ mas
ar ainteresebs politikosebis
kinklaoba, maT undaT joxs
yvelam erT mxares mohkidos
xeli da rac mosacilebelia
da ar mogvwons, moviciloT.
erTmaneTs Tu daerien da lanZRes, ase saerTo saqme _ qarTuli ocneba ar asruldeba.
kargi iqneboda saxalxo kreba
qarTuli ocnebiT.
_ Tqven xalxis SekveTa ax seneT. es SekveTa jerjerobiT
ar sruldeba da albaT amito mac bolo dros sazogadoeba
gaRizianebulia.
_ diax, sastiki gaRizianeba SeimCneva xalxSi. jer kidev, 26 maiss Cemi TvaliT vnaxe, rogori kivil-wiviliT,
Tmebis TreviT, Cayares manqanaSi Rirseuli qalbatonebi nona gafrindaSvili, nino burjanaZe imitom, rom xocva-Jleta
atyda. es ukompromiso brZola
iyo. amitom vambob axla erTmaneTTan Cxubis dro ar aris.
nu vecdebiT, sxvisi saqmis gakeTebas erTmaneTSi qiSpobisa
da konkurenciis gamo. xalxi
ukmayofiloa opozicia erTmaneTTan gauTaveblad saqmes rom
arCevs da am dros qveynis saqme gverdze rCeba. aq ici rogori situaciaa _ me Sairi ar
mindoda Sen amtexe Zaladao.
saxalxo kreba pirveli miesalma qarTul ocnebas da mzad
varT, saidanac dartyma wamova
yoveli mxridan avefaroT.
saerTo gazeTi
ar wamoegoT provokaciaso,
rom gveubnebian, aba,
daCinClulebma viaroT?!
aqve minda erTi ram aRvniSno _ qarTveli mkiTxveli, mayurebeli
Zalian
magaria.
mTel qarTvel mosaxleobas
Cemi bilwsityvaobisTvis, rac
xSirad mCvevia-xolme, did bodiSs vuxdi, magram qarTvelo
mkiTxvelo es Cemi brali ar
aris. mTavrobam Tavad Semiwyo
amaSi xeli. rogor SeiZleba
vTqvaT, me miTxra kampuCiis
agenti xaro. roca ici _ es
ase araa, sjobs polemikaSi ar
Sexvide da pirdapir sam asoze gauSva es xelisufleba.
roca xelisuflebaSi movidnen
imTaviTve hqondaT seriozuli
Canafiqri _ CaSveba da iseTi
sazizRrobebi momxdariyo, risi momswrenic dRes varT _
lafis dasxma, gineba, cru
braldebebi. gesmiT, ra faSizmTan, arakacobasTan, mazoxizmTan gvaqvs saqme. yvelas vafrTxileb, mova dro da sakadris
pasuxs miiReben.
maSin roca xalxs ar
ekiTxebi da Sen irCev, amas
xalxi ar miiRebs. ar SeiZleba vinmes gamoyofa. roca
wyalgamyofs gaakeTeb, maSin es
ocneba ki ara arCevaa da ase
qarTuli ocneba ar gamova.
roca ginda ojaxi Sens mxrebze dadges, unda gaiTvaliswino, rom yvelanair adamianTan
geqneba Sexeba da yvelasTan
saerTo ena unda gamonaxo. yvelas SegviZlia adamiani Cvensken SemovabrunoT. xalxis masa
molodinSia. yvelas Tavisi
amomrCeveli, mxare hyavs, amitom yvela erTad unda dadges.
unda vecadoT erTad avaxdinoT qarTuli ocneba, amiT xom
xalxis ocneba axdeba. Tu
xalxis ocneba ar axdeba, aseTi araferi ar minda.
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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martivia _ yvelas unda iyos
mSvidad da imediani xvalindeli dRe hqondes. xalxs unda
simSvide, daapuros Svili, misces ganaTleba,
anu hqondes Sansi paritetze dadges. iciT,
ramdeni
varskvlavi
ikargeba sportSi? me
rom mkiTxoT 16 wlamde asakisTvis sportul
seqciebze misvla ufaso
unda iyos. axla yvelaferi fasaduria, SigniT
ki suli warecxili,
wamxdaria, xalxi gagiJebulia, sanagveSi eZebs sakvebs. amitom, xalxis gaRizianeba sworia. isini imas ki ar
elian, rom ivaniSvili
mova da fulebs daurigebs. ara, isini am kacisgan elian Semdegs _ vinc
gamosayenebelia, ivaniSvilma
is xalxi daiyenos gverdiT, am
urCxulis winaaRmdeg. cudia
Tu kargia nebismieri unda daiyenos gverdiT, vinc am brZolaSi gamoadgeba. ar SeiZleba
SerCeva, dayofa _ es ara, is
ki da a.S.
daugubebiaT pirSi wyali?!
xalxi amis gamo iciT ras iZaxis? _ aa, etyoba ase awyobT
amaTo.
_ protesti marTlac ar
niSnavs mxolod revolucias.
xalxs konstituciiT aqvs uf le b a g a r e T g a m o v i d e s d a s a k u Tari azri daafiqsiros.
_ amasTan dakavSirebiT Cemi, luka kurtaniZis da merab
SaTiriSvilis simbolur protests gavixseneb. msgavsi raRacis gakeTeba xom nebismiers
SeuZlia. amitom aris rom
xalxs eWvebi uCndeba, _ albaT ar undaT, umoqmedoba
awyobTo. eseni am dros gaiZaxian yvelaferi samarTlebrivad gavakeToT, xelisuflebas
mizezi ar mivceTo, provokacias ar wamovegoTo. amaze erTi ram maxsendeba _ gelaTidan rom daviZariT, me da lukas merabma gviTxra _ SeiZleba viRacam gagvaCeros da
gviTxras Tqve aseTebo da iseTeboo. vkiTxe, mere, Cven ra
vqnaT-meTqi _ provokacias ar
avyveTo. es meorejerac rom
gviTxra, samives sicili agvityda. lukam Tqva _ e.i. ase
daCinClulebma viaroT Tbilisamdeo? anu ra gamodis? _ ar
ivaniSvilma, misma meuRlem
erTi kvira rom iaron mosaxleobaSi, iseTi popularulebi
gaxdebian, meti rom ar SeiZleba imitom, rom udidesi sikeTe aqvT daTesili. maT udidesi ndobis mandati aqvT. ivaniSvilze didi qvelmoqmedi
saqarTvelos istoriaSi ar
yofila me erTi ram minda _
Cemi saqme vakeTo. ras erCis
erTmaneTs burjanaZe da alasania? xom Cemi TvaliT davinaxe, 26 maiss rogori Seurigebeli brZola iyo. vRiziandebi,
roca agresiaa Cvens mimarT,
gana ra gavakeTeT cudi?! ramdeni ram moxda, saCxereli biWebi daiWires tyuilubralod, amaze kargi sababi raRa
undaT, gamovidnen da raRaca
Tqvan, ras mikeTeben `respublikelebi~ da sxva danarCeni
partiebi Tu gundis wevrebi
vinc ivaniSvilTan arian?! ras
avyveT provokacias da ase daCinClulebma viaroT?! zustad
es undaT amaT. aba, saCxereSi
biWebis daWeraze didi sababi
raRa gindaT. gaiZaxian moqalaqeobis miniWeba ivaniSvilisTvis samarTlebrivi kuTxiT
unda gadawydeso.
amas winaT eliavaze viyavi, nacnobebi
myavs iq da erTma damiZaxa _ modi soso,
erTi kargi kaci unda
gagacnoo. warmidgina
Cineli giorgi wereTeli. amaze didi masxroba da Tavze gadavla, raRa gindaT? 5
aTasamde ucxo tomis
kacs
saqarTvelos
moqalaqeoba aqvs miRebuli, ivaniSvili
kide gadaakvda samSoblos da moqalaqeoba waarTves.
aqedan gamomdinare, SemiZlia vTqva _ Cemo qarTulo
ocnebav, logikuri ar aris es
eWvi? _ logikuri ki ara, Zalianac logikuria.
_ erT-eerT Sekrebaze axseneT momrigeblebi unda viyoTo.
_ aucileblad. roca brZolas viwyeb, iq me aravin ar memeteba da arc maSin, roca
brZolas movigeb. ratom? _
roca brZolas movigebT yvelas seriozuli konsolidacia
unda moxdes, mere xalxma Tavad icis Zalian kargad, Tu
visTan unda dadgnen. eWvi
iciT raSi mepareba? _ saubrebi rom daiwyo yvela burjanaZis gardao. saxalxo krebaSi
Tavad var da kargad vici, rom
burjanaZe krebis Cveulebrivi
wevria. magram iciT raSia saqme? _ eseni konkurentebs xedaven erTmaneTSi, rac Zalian
cudia. svaneTSi momrigeblebi
iyvnen vinc xalxs erTad dasvamdnen da detalurad ganixilavdnen yvelafers. es TveobiT ki ar grZeldeboda, erT
dReSi xdeboda morigeba. roca
brZolas movigebT, qarTveli
xalxi Tavad aarCevs visken wavides, magram viRac-viRacebi
erTmaneTSi seriozul konkurentebs xedaven, iZulebulni xdebian polemikaSi Sevidnen, rac qarTvel xalxs Zalian aRizianebs da iZaxis _ erTisac da meorisico. am
dros ki visi saqme keTdeba? _ kolmeurneobis
Tavmjdomaris!
yvelas
aqvs ufleba ibrZolos,
ratom ar miSveb sabrZolvelad, ratom kinklaoben erTmaneTSi, gauSvan, yvelam ibrZolos.
_ bolos minda gki TxoT is, riTac saubari
daviwyeT _ Tqven TqviT
imeds unda moveferoT,
rom ar Sescivdeso. uk ve xom ar sciva am
imeds, gafrTxildeba xom
ar dagvigvianda?
_ ki, cota agrilda, cota
acivda, cota SemoTba, cotac
airia. Rvinom icis ase, man
icis gabrazeba, aura gadadis
masze. erTxel, axlobelma
aseTi ram momiyva stumari momivida da ojaxis wevri mezobelTan gadavagzavne Rvinoze,
magram Seagviandao. cota xanSi gadavedi da aRmoCnda, rom
maspinZeli Rvinos ar atanda.
stumari aqeT gadmoiyvaneT,
Torem gadatanis dros aimRvreva da mere damSvideba unda
Rvinoso. SeiZleba yvelaferi
kargi iyos, magram am gadatana-gadmotanaSi,
polemikaSi
aimRvres. SeiZleba yvela CarTul Tu CaurTav mxares kargi fiqrebi hqondes, magram Tu
ar moxda damSvideba, azrTa
Sejereba, saSviliSvilod mogveWreba kiseri.
Tamar SveliZe
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4 saerTo gazeTi
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
2012 wlis arCevnebSi biZina ivaniSvilis
monawileoba aris naRmi, romelic
am xelisuflebas walekviT emuqreba
gvesaubreba mwerali merab
SaTiriSvili::
_ xelisufleba Worebs yris,
TiTqos `qarTuli ocneba~ umoqmedodaa. ra viTarebaa realurad?
_ xelis Caqneva gamoricxulia _ biZina ivaniSvilis, `qarTuli ocnebis~ mimarT xelCaqneuli qarTveli, me ar Semxvedria. xelisuflebis bneli garemocva cdilobs xalxi daarwmunos, rom biZina ivaniSvili arc
iseTi Zlieria, TiTqos, `qarTul ocnebas~ ar hyavs bevri
mimdevari, rac simarTles ar Seefereba. Cemi azriT, saboloo
jamSi es xelisuflebas cudad
daubrundeba. moTmineba ar niSnavs, rom xelisuflebis tyuilebi gvjera. man SeiZleba droebiT moatyuos saerTaSoriso
organizaciebi, msoflio sazogadoeba TiTqos demokratiul qveyanas aSenebs, ityvis_ ai, xom
xedavT miviRe kanoni, romlis
mixedviTac politikur partiebs
saSualebas vaZlev Cemi gadaricxuli TanxebiT sareklamo
kampania awarmoono. paralelurad, ki iseT drakonul kanonebs
Rebulobs, romelic xel-fexs
uboWavs partiebs da moqmedebis
saSualebas ar iZleva. am dros
ki xelisuflebas aqvs saSualeba daxarjos miliardebi, moisyidos amomrCeveli da pasuxs
aravis winaSe ar agebs imitom,
rom kanoni misia da qoTans saidanac moesurveba iqedan miabams
yurs. es yvelaferi qarTvel
xalxs ar gamoepareba. nurc romelime partiis politikuri
lideri, an adamiani romelsac
politikosad moaqvs Tavi, nu
ifiqrebs, rom Cveulebriv, qarTvel moqalaqeze meti icis da
mas advilad moatyuebs. qarTveli xalxis brbod gadaqceva ukve gamoricxulia. igi 20 wlis
manZilze imdenad gamoibrZmeda,
rom politikurad ganaTlebul
erad Camoyalibda. minda darwmunebiT giTxraT, rom xalxs aRar
gamoepareba xelisuflebis es
TamaSi, TiToeuli qarTveli mis
ugvan, urcxv, xist, banditur
damokidebulebas da faqtebs
skivrSi agrovebs, romelic sabolood aivseba, rogorc moTminebis fiala da Zneli misaxvedri ar aris, rogori dasasruli
eqneba. xelisufleba nu ifiqrebs, rom misi qcevebi arCevnebSi dadebiTad aisaxeba. darwmunebuli var Tu arCevnebSi xelisufleba gaimarjvebs _ es xelovnuri mogeba iqneba. amisaTvis
xalxisgan pasuxs miiRebs quCaSi
gamosvlis formiT. Rrmad var
darwmunebuli, rom xelisufleba Cadenili danaSaulebebisTvis
arCevnebis dros, aramarto saarCevno yuTTan, aramed amis iqeTac
agebs pasuxs.
politikosebi teleeTeridan Tu presis saSualebiT xSirad afrqveven `brZnul~ azrebs.
pirdapir veubnebi maT _
Tuki SeuZliaT, sjobs
laybobas saqme akeTon.
imitom, rom mTeli pasuxismgeblobiT vacxadeb _
saqarTveloSi politika ar arsebobs, aramed gvyavs xelisufleba, `nac.moZraoba~, romelic
ambobs _ me var banditi, Camoyalibebuli maqvs banda, me vklav,
varbev, vwamlav, realur mowinaaRmdeges iseTi kanonebis CarCoebSi vsvam, rom moqmedebis saSualebas ar vaZlev da mas, rogorc politikoss cocxal
msxverplad vaqcev. am dros
msoflios eubneba, rom demokratias hqmnis. aseT xelisuflebas
msoflioSi misaRebi politikuri meTodebiT ver daamarcxeb.
Cndeba kiTxva _ maSin, rogor
davamarcxoT es xelisufleba?
_ es miiRweva moTminebiT, Cadenili Secdomebis mxilebiT, da
swored ivaniSviliseuli Tavisufali, pirovnuli faqtorebiT.
`qarTuli ocneba~ araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar unda daemsgavsos
romelime politikur partias.
es unda iyos am eqstremalur,
istoriul viTarebaSi Seqmnili
gaerTianeba, romelic Camoyalibdeba politikur partiad, magram
misi Sinagani suliskveTeba saerTo saxalxo moZraobaze da
erovnul Rirebulebebze unda
aigos.
_ Tqven brZaneT, rom xelisufleba, sxva araferia Tu ara
kriminalebis banda, romelmac
kanonebis iseTi wre Sekra, rac
ivaniSvils moqmedebis saSualebas ar aZlevs. am fonze xom de-
ram Tu xelisufleba kidev erTxel Seecdeba xalxs, msoflio
Tanamegobrobas TvalSi nacari
ayaros viTom demokratiul arCevnebs atarebs da Cven taSs davukravT da mivulocavT mas, maSin qarTveli xalxi ver vyofilvarT normaluri. Cemi azriT, 2012 wlis arCevnebi istoriulia, am arCevnebSi swored
ivaniSvilis gamoCenis faqtori
aris is feTqebadi naRmi, romelic am xelisuflebas walekviT
emuqreba. RmerTma nu hqnas, rom
xelisuflebam 2012 wlis arCevnebi xelovnurad moigos drakonuli kanonebis meSveobiT. imitom, rom adamiani, romelic saarCevno yuTTan xelisuflebis
winaaRmdeg miscems xmas, xelisuflebis xelovnuri gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi quCaSi gamova da
mas saxlSi veRaravin Seabrunebs.
biZina ivaniSvili sworedac
im moTminebis fialis xelSi
damWeria da dResdReobiT, Tavadac am moTminebis fialiT `iklavs wyurvils~. biZina ivaniSvi-
aqvs, me namdvilad warmodgenili
maqvs ra moxdeba.
_ ra unda gakeTdes `qarTul
ocnebaSi~ miznis misaRwevad?
_ `qarTuli ocnebis~ da
xalxis moTmineba paralelurad
ivseba, fiala erTia. es fiala,
rogorc `qarTuli ocnebisTvis~
aivseba da gadmova, aseve gadmova xalxisTvis. rac Seexeba,
xalxSi gaCenil azrs da gaRizianebas `respublikelebis~ mimarT
da ivaniSvilTan aliansSi myofi
partiebis Tu politfigurebis
mimarT, garkveulwilad, amasac
xelisuflebis spec. samsaxurebis mier gavrcelebuli Worebi
uwyobs xels da aseve, am partiebis warsuli, reitingebi da
mravalgzis xelmocarva da xalxSi uimedobis gaCena. rac Seexeba mosazrebas, TiTqos es partiebi qarTul saqmes Ralatoben,
maTi politikuri mrwamsis miuxedavad, es ar mjera. `respublikelebi~ erT-erTi pirvelebi
iyvnen, vinc miSas brZolaSi ar
gahyvnen da daupirispirdnen,
magram, rigi sakiTxebi marTlac
xalxisgan Seqmnili mesame
Zala yvela politikur
partias, romelsac binZur
TamaSebSi amxels, gaanadgurebs
mokratiul, Tavisufal arCevnebze saubaric zedmetia. maSin
ra azri aqvs aseT arCevnebSi monawileobas?
_ absoluturad mesmis Tqveni SekiTxvis arsi. am fonze demokratiuli arCevnebis Catareba,
pirdapir Tu vityviT, sisulelea, magram arsebobs ufro didi sisulele_ xelisufleba
gvipirispirdeba maxviliT, Rvris
Cvens sisxls, amitom mas misive
SecdomebiT unda davupirispirdeT, da neba-uneblied am TamaSSi unda wavhyveT. magram kidev
erTxel vimeoreb, qarTveli eri
gonebagaxsnilia, man bolo 20
wlis manZilze uamravi tkivili
gadaitana da kargad acnobierebs
xelisuflebis veragobas. amitom
eubneba mas _ brZolaSi bolomde mogyvebi, magram Sanss gaZlev
arCevnebis gziT waxvide saxelisuflebo kvarcxlbekidano, mag-
li qarTveli eris, samSoblos
siyvarulis gamo udides riskebze debs mTels mis warsuls. igi
quCaSi gamosvlis winaaRmdegi
swored imitomaa, rom amiT xelisuflebas ugzavnis mesijs da
eubneba, radganac me arenaze gamovedi niSnavs, rom Sen demokratiis araferi gcxia. imitom,
rom ivaniSvili gverdSi edga
xelisuflebas da exmareboda
mas, raTa demokratiuli, Tavdacvisunariani qveyana aeSenebina.
magram misi gamijvna da arenaze
am formiT gamosvla niSnavs,
rom dRes igi xelisuflebis
mxardaWeras Secdomad Tvlis.
Tu qarTveli xalxi arCevnebSi
2/3-iT ar iqna warmodgenili da
es procesi gamarjvebiT ar damTavrda, warmoidgineT, ra moxdeba ivaniSvilma, rom Tqvas quCaSi gamovdivaro. Tu xelisuflebas es gacnobierebuli ar
iwvevs gaRizianebas _ politikur partiebs, radgan ivaniSvilma maT TavisTan uxmo, Tavi yovlisSemZle hgoniaT, es Secdomaa. isini ar fiqroben imaze,
rom raionSi maT aqtivistebs ar
aqvT avtoriteti. es SeiZleba,
ubralod maTi ki ara, aramed
Seqmnili viTarebis bralia. imitom, rom saakaSvilma politikuri aqtivobis da opoziciuri
Zalebis SesaZleblobebi gaanadgura. amitom, `respublikelebma~
da `Tavisufalma demokratebma~
`qarTul ocnebas~ Tavisuflad
Camoyalibebis saSualeba unda
miscen. `qarTuli ocnebis~ organizmi Zlier partiad unda Camoyalibdes, risi Sansebic namdvilad arsebobs. amis xelisSemSleli faqtoria partiuli
TviTdajerebuloba. magaliTad,
rodesac `respublikelebs~ hgoniaT, rom vTqvaT, xaragaulSi an
sxvagan TavianTi aqtivisti yovlisSemZlea, realurad mas ar
aqvs mdidari partia, maqsimum
20-30 wevri hyavs da aramgonia
misma `qarTuli ocnebis~ saxeliT saTaveSi Cadgomam didi Sedegi gamoiRos. maT politikur
gamocdilebaze pretenzia ar
maqvs, magram am SemTxvevaSi resursze vsaubrob, rac maT ar
gaaCniaT. piradad me `qarTul
ocnebas~ guriaSi jgufebis SeqmnaSi vexmarebi, aranairi problema ar maqvs arc `respublikelebis~, arc `Tavisufali demokratebis~ warmomadgenlebTan, magram xalxs aRizianebs Semdegi
_ sadac maT figuralurad ar
SeuZliaT, arc avtoriteti aqvT, nu cdiloben, iq Carevas.
_ bolo dros gamoCnda mesame Zala, anu is politikosebi,
romlebic am ori polusidan
vercerTSi ver moxvdnen. es Zala
ivaniSvilis pro-d
dasavluri Zalisgan gansxvavebiT, Tavs namdvil qarTul Zalad miiCnevs.
_ baton biZinas veravin daswamebs cils, rom pro-dasavluris garda, igi pro-qarTulic
ar aris. igi Zireulad qarTveli
rom ar yofiliyo Tavisi fsiqologiiT, maSin igi pro-dasavlurad iazrovnebda, moiqceoda da
parizSi gaagrZelebda cxovrebas, miliardebsac kidev daumatebda sxva miliardebs. man ki
absoluturad yvelafers xazi
gadausva da politikaSi Semovida, rac niSnavs rom igi suliT
xorcamde qarTvelia. samebis taZris amSenebelze sxva ram ar
iTqmis. rac Seexeba, mis gundSi
arsebul pro-dasavlur partiebs, es is Zala ar aris, romelmac Cven qarTul brZolaze xeli unda Cagvaqnevinos. mesame politikuri Zala ar arsebobs.
amas xmamaRla ar amboben, magram,
Cemi azriT aqcentebi saxalxo
krebaze keTdeba. aq sufTa, Seuryvneli adamianebi arian. saxalxo kreba Tavisi mentalitetiT ar SeiZleba mesame Zala
gaxdes. igi iq iqneba, sadac xalxia. Tu xalxi ivaniSvilis gverdiT dadgeba, saxalxo krebac
swored iq iqneba. ar var imis
momxre, rom vinc mesame Zalad
warmoadgens Tavs _ kukava, burjanaZe, SaSiaSvili, gaCeCilaZe,
ar miiRon monawileoba saerTo
saxalxo moZraobaSi, rac `qarTuli ocnebis~ garSemo yalibdeba, magram Tu mesame Zalaze mainc visaubrebT, vimeoreb, mesame
Zalis arseboba tyuili gancxadebebia, imitom, rom ar arsebobs, Zala romelic SeiZleba
mesame Zalad Seiqmnas. magram mesame Zalis Seqmnis naRmi marTlac devs, rac ar asocirdeba
axla naxseneb politikosebTan.
mesame Zala SeiZleba im SemTxvevaSi Seiqmnas, Tu xelisuflebis
dayrili Worebi xalxze imoqmedebs da ivaniSvili, rogorc saqarTvelosTvis movlenili imedi
gacruvdeba. es iqneba xalxis mier Seqmnili mesame Zala, romelic yvela politikur Zalas,
Tuki raime TamaSSi amxels, gaanadgurebs.
Tamar SveliZe
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria
partia `Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ Tavmjdomare kaxa kukava
_kaxa, xelisuflebisa da
ivaniSvilis koaliciis dapirispireba dRiTi-d
dRe araprognozirebadi xdeba, sadamde gagrZeldeba represiebi, an bolos
da bolos, koalicia e.w. nervebis oms daTmobs?
_ dReisaTvis, ivaniSvilis
koaliciaSi mTavaria Sida sakiTxebis mogvareba da isini Sida brZolaze ufro arian koncentrirebulni, vidre xelisuflebis damarcxebaze.
erT-erT magaliTs getyviT:
mas Semdeg, rac Cven bolo ori
kviris manZilze ara erTi gancxadeba gavakeTeT, rom mzad
varT ivaniSvilTan TanamSromlobisaTvis da konkretulad,
saarCevno kodeqsTan dakavSirebiT SevTavazeT TanamSromlobaai, amis Semdeg, zustad vici,
koaliciis erT-erTma subieqtma
daiwyo Savi fiari konkretulad Cveni partiis winaaRmdeg.
erT-erT gazeTSi gamoaqveynes
SekveTili publikacia saTauriT: `kukava ivaniSvilis koaliciis daSlas cdilobs~
faqti TavisTavad sasaciloa. ivaniSvili cxovrebaSi ar
minaxavs.arc masTan da arc mis
garemocvasTan maqvs rame saxis
kontaqti. ai, es aris pirdapiri pasuxi Tqven SekiTxvaze, Tu
ratom aris pasiuroba am koaliciaSi
radgan jerjerobiT Sida
sakiTxebia gadasawyveti da am
dros, ivaniSvilis garemocva
yvelanairad cdilobs moaxdinos TviT ivaniSvilis `privatizeba~
_ Tanac `respublikelebis~
pozicia calsaxaa: viTanamSromlebT nebismier ZalasTan, mxolod kukavas da burjanaZis
faqtors gamoricxavTo....
_ sxvaTa Soris, aRniSnul
publikaciaSi, romelic vfiqrob, am `avtorebis~ SekveTili
iyo finalic ipyrobda yu-
saerTo gazeTi
dagvifiqsirebia,
batoni ivaniSvilis da gansakuTrebiT, misi partniorebis ideologia
`Tavisufali
saqarTvelos~
ideologiisa da programisagan
arsebiTad gansxvavdeba, Tumca
absoluturad normaluria, ro-
Tad viqnebiT, Tu SevZlebT
farTo frontis Camoyalibebas
saakaSvilis dasmarcxeblad....
amaze saubari jerjerobiT miWirs, radgan konsultaciebi
Canasaxovan mdgomareobaSia. sa-
ai, magaliTad, dekemberSi
`Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ iniciativiT politikuri partiebis mxardamWer konferencias
forumi, kerZod, gubaz sanikiZe
daeswro da deklaraciasac SeuerTda. Tumca jerjerobiT sakiTxi saarCevno erTobis Sesaxeb ar ganxilula.
_ ra Sansebi aqvs am koalicias arCevnebis pirobebSi, miT
ufro, Tuki erovnul ideologiaze iqnebiT orientirebuli?
_ Tu erovnuli Zalebis gaerTianeba Sedga da Tu am blokis elementaluri finansuri
uzrunvelyofa moxda, es iqneba
ara mesame, aramed meore Zala
xelisuflebis
winaaRmdeg
brZolaSi. miT ufro, dRes saqarTveloSi erovnul-konservatoruli ganwyobebi bevrad ufro mZlavria, vidre xuTi, an
aTi wlis win, maSin liberaluri da pro-amerikuli ganwyobebi iyo metad popularuli.
_ medvedevma sul axlaxan
ganacxada, Tuki saqarTveloSi
xelisufleba Seicvleba, maSin
dialogi SesaZlebeli gaxdebao.
_ sxvaTa Soris, bevri akritikebs putins da medvedevs, imis
gamo, Tu ratom ar surT saakaSvilTan dialogio. obieqturad
Tu SevxedavT viTarebas: vinc saakaSvils icnobs, vinc mas erTxel mainc Sexvdeba, SeuZlebelia meored moundes masTan Sexvedra da rame SeTanxmebis miRweva. saerTod, azri ar aqvs saakaS-
varaudod, april-maisisaTvis
TanamSromlobis konturebi ufro gamokveTili iqneba.
_ ivaniSvilis koalicia aqtiurad cdilobs `erovnuli
forumis~ Tavisken gadaqaCvas,
paralelurad, Tqveni aliansi
Tu apirebs `erovnul-f
forumTan~ TanamSromlobas?
_ bunebrivia, forumi erovnul Zalad moiazreba da Cemi
ganacxadis gareSe, sazogadoeba
ase Tvlis. am partiis ideologia CvenTvis ucxo ar aris,
maTTan TanamSromloba rig sakiTxebze gvaqvs.
vilTan ramenair SeTanxmebas,
radgan viciT, maSinve daarRvevs.
sxvaTa Soris, saakaSvilTan
urTierTobaze uars amboben ara
mxolod putini da medvedevi
aramed, yvela seriozuli, pasuxismgebliani subieqtis poziciac amgvaria. sakuTar xalxTan
da opoziciasTan ver gamounaxavs saerTo ena da afxazebTan
da osebTan, rogor gamarTavs
dialogs? ase rom, es kaci
gvyavs dasamarcxebeli da Sida
dapirispirebis magier, gaerTianebaze unda vifiqroT.
naTia xuciSvili
raRac disonansis Setanas am
koaliciaSi.
_ ramdenadac vici, winasaarCevnod Tqveni, SaSiaSvilis,
burjanaZis partiebis koalicias unda velodeT, am mimarTulebiT rogor muSaobT?
_ koalicia aucileblad
Seiqmneba Tanac erovnuli Zalebisagan, es `Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ mtkice gadawyvetilebaa. vixelmZRvanelebT ara viwro partiuli interesebiT,
aramed aucileblad SevqmniT
opoziciur erTobas, rom xelisuflebas realuri winaaRmdegoba gavuwioT. Tumca ra saxis
da ramdenad farTo masStabiani,
masSi Zvel partniorebTan er-
riT gaanawyenes
`respublikelebma~ kaxa
kukava da rogor apirebs igi
erovnuli Zalebis Tavmoyras?
ca gansxvavebuli ideologiis
Zalebic qmnian koalicias da
saerTo mtris winaaRmdeg ayalibeben erTian fronts.
nu, axla... stalini da ruzvelti Tanamoazreebi ar yofilan, roca hitleri hyavdaT
dasamarcxebeli koalicia Seqmnes da axla, saqarTvelos hitleri mixeil saakaSvilia. igive
moxda sul axalxan egviptis
revoluciis dros, roca fundamentalisti musulmanebi da
liberalebi nobelis premiis
laureati baradeis xelmZRvanelobiT erTad ibrZodnen mubaraqis winaaRmdeg.
amitom saqarTveloSic verafers vxedav problematurs,
Tuki moxdeba gaerTianeba sxvadasxva opoziciuri flangebis
da Seiqmneba droebiTi taqtikuri bloki saakaSvilis winaaRm-
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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radRebas: Tuki ivaniSvili mainc gadawyvets, iTanamSromlos
burjanaZesTan da kukavasTan,
maSin respublikelebi datoveben koalicias. es pirdapir
gacxadebuli SantaJi iyo. vfiqrob, batonma ivaniSvilma da
misma uaxloesma, erTgulma
mrCevelebma yuradReba unda miaqcion, Tu ramdenad `sasikeTo~
saqmes ukeTebs maT zogierTi
partniori.
_ kaxa, rusulma faqtorma
xom ar iqonia gavlena, radgan
Tqven da burjanaZe ruseTTan
daaxloebis momxre Zalebad moiazrebiT, xolo respublikelebs mtkiced ukaviaT prodasavluri niSa?
_ es aris erT-erTi faqtori. Tumca ara gadaulaxavi. miT
ufro, Cveni mxridan araerTxel
vakeTe komentari mxolod im
nawilSi, rac uSualod Segvexeboda...rom mas Semdeg, rac
gaCnda idea, SeiZleboda Semdgariyo Cven partiasTan TanamSromloba, koaliciis erT-erTma
subieqtma jer SigniT daiwyo
Cveni politikuri Zalis diskreditacia,
xolo roca CaTvales,
es sakmarisi ar iyo,
pirdapir
SekveTil
publikaciebs mimarTes. TiTqosda, vcdilob ivaniSvilis koaliciis daSlas. ramdenad seriozuli ganacxadia Tavad gansajeT. Jurnalisti ad-
deg. Tavis mxriv, es ar niSnavs,
rom Cven gadavxedavT sakuTar
Sexedulebebs.
ai, magaliTad, natoSi saqarTvelos integraciis mxardaWeras ar vapirebT, rogorc
minimum, manamde, vidre soxumSi
qarTuli droSa ar afrialdeba. es Cveni Sexeduleba metad
principulia da zogierTebisgan
gansxvavebiT, CvenTvis `fiartriuks~ ar warmoadgens. ase
rom, ideologiuri sxvaoba
taqtikur bloks aranairad SeuSlis xels.
_ da mainc, ra xdeba, ivaniSvilis koaliciaSi, ratom
iblokeba sxva opoziciuri azri?
_ am koaliciaSi rac mimdinareobs, ar aris Cemi da `Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ saqme. ga-
vilad amoicnobs, rom erT-erTi Cveulebrivi SekveTili publikaciaa. albaT, Savi versia am
partiis pressamsaxurSi daiwera. sxvaTa Soris, is gzavnilebi, rac statiaSia Camoyalibebuli pirdapir exeba ara mkiTxvels, aramed ivaniSvils. man
unda waikiTxos aRniSnuli
statia, romelic Semdegnairad
mTavrdeba: Tu burjanaZis, an
kukavasken gaixedav, Cven davtovebT blokso. rogorc Cans,
amis pirdapir gancxadeba ivaniSvilTan uWirT da gadawyvites presis furclebidan miewodebinaT informacia.
minda davamSvido da am SemTxvevaSi namdvilad viqnebi
gulwrfeli: aranairi mcdeloba arc ivaniSvilTan urTierTobis, an misi koaliciis daSlis, ar gvqonia. ivaniSvilis
mravalricxovan StabSi veravin
ityvis, rom romelime maTgans
Sevxvdi, an Sexvedra viTxove,
an werili mivwere... aseTi
mcdeloba ar gvaqvs. ase rom,
sakuTari koaliciis saqmeebi
ise gadawyviton, rom Cvenze
apelireba naklebad moaxdinon.
Cveni ojaxis Seqmnas sxvisi
ojaxis dangrevis xarjze ar
vapirebT. amis survilic, rom
mamoZravebdes, elementalurad,
saamisod berketebi mainc unda
mqondes. ubralod, jerjerobiT
ivaniSvils ver gaubedes ultimatumis wayeneba da kukavas daabrales, viTom Cven vapirebT
Tbilisis gareubnebSi gzebze
teqnikuri marili ar iyreba
Tovis gamo Tbilisis gareubnebSi gadaadgilebaTan
dakavSirebuli problemebia.
rogorc `medianiuss~ naZaladevidan, lilos dasaxlebidan, didi lilodan, svaneTis ubnidan da orxevidan
acnobes, maT gzebze teqnikuri marili mxolod erTxel
daiyara da isic mxolod
centralur gzaze.
did liloSi ramdenime
dRis win municipaluri transportis gadaadgileba centralur gzazec ki SeuZlebeli iyo. vinaidan am dasaxlebaSi mxolod erTi saxis muni-
cipaluri transporti moZraobs, mosaxleobam
samsaxursa da saswavlebelSi wasvla ver moaxerxa.
qalaqis centrSi ki teqnikuri
marili mxolod saavtomobilo gzaze iyreba, trouarebi ar iwmindeba.
Tbilisi meriaSi
acxadeben,
rom teqnikuri marilis dayra saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi xdeba. wuxandeli Tovis gamo ki teqnikuri marili Ramidan moyolebuli am dromde
iyreba rogorc gareubnebSi, ise qalaqis centrSi. Tuki vinmes gadaadgilebis problema Seeqmneba, SeuZlia darekos meriis cxel xazze da Sesabamisi
samsaxuris jgufi maSinve moaxdens reagirebas.
`medianiusi~
5
6 saerTo gazeTi
intervviu `demokratiuli
moZraoba _ erTiani saqarTvvelos~~ generalur mdivvanTan
vaxtang yolbaiasTan
_ baton vaxtang, Tqven brZandebodiT afxazeTis uzenaesi
sabWos Tavmjdomaris moadgile,
anu arZinbas moadgile, afxazeTidan devnili xarT Tqvenc,
rogor fiqrobT, afxazeTi Soreul ocnebad darCa da gawyda
soxumisken mimavali yvela imedi?
_ 1994 wels afxazeTma da
saqarTvelom erToblivi SeTanxmeba gaaformes, romelic sxva
sakiTxebTan erTad gulisxmobda im komisiis Seqmnasac, romelic am procesis dawyebas uzrunvelyofda. maSin galis gamgebeli viyavi, deputatic da
CarTuli viyavi am procesSi.
sakiTxi ase idga: devnilebi
nel-nela, 10-10 kaci unda dabrunebuliyo dasawyisisTvis, ase
aT-aTobiT rodis davbrundebiT,
Ciodnen maSin, ra gaZlebs da
a.S. gavida 20 weliwadi da Cven
afxazeTTan ufro Sors varT,
vidre viyaviT maSin da dRes,
faqtobrivad, araferi keTdeba
afxazeTis problemis mosagvareblad. xelisufleba darwmunebuli rom iyos imaSi, afxazeTis da cxinvalis regionis damoukideblobis aRiareba mas ar
gadaayiravebs, albaT, aRiarebdnen raRac formiT da natoSi
Sevidodnen, radgan nacionaluri mTavroba afxazeTis gareSec
mSvenivrad grZnobs Tavs, baTums aSeneben, lazikas, mere
wavlen kanaris kunZulebze, fijize da morCa.
Tqven iciT, rom
afxazeTSi miSas sadRegrZelos svamen imis
gamo, rac man cxinvalSi gaakeTa?
SeiZleba dRes bevrs arc ki
warmoudgenia, magram me, piradad, mimaCnia, rom afxazebTan
pirdapiri dialogi unda daviwyoT. Tumca es am xelisuflebis pirobebSi SeuZlebelia.
afxazebi gvendobian im SemTxvevaSi, Tu darwmundebian, rom
Cveni moqmedebebi prognozirebadi iqneba.
_ me vici, afxazeTis Tema
TqvenTvis imdenad mtkivneulia,
SegiZliaT didxans mesaubroT
dabrunebis konkretul gegmebze, perspeqtivaze, magram modiT, Tbiliss davubrundeT, danarCen saqarTveloSi Seqmnil
situaciaze visaubroT, oRond
dampirdiT, rom maqsimalurad
gulwrfeli iqnebiT.
_ gpirdebiT. pativs vcem
Tqven gazeTs, baton vaxtangs,
gazeTis redaqtors.
_ mogexsenebaT, politikur
moedanze ori moTamaSe gamoikveTa: nacmoZraoba da `qarTuli
ocneba~, Tqven sad xarT am politikur mindorze _`demokratiuli moZraoba _ erTiani saqarTvelosTvis~ sad imyofeba?
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
_ diax, aris ori polusi
da Sua rgoli ar arsebobs.
amas ver SeveguebiT verc Cven
da verc sxva partiebi, romlebsac ambiciebi aqvT politikur
brZolaze, arc erT ZalasTan
gaerTianeba ar surT da arc meoresTan. es aris biZgi imisken,
rom Seiqmnas kidev erTi warmo-
Cven mzad varT mivideT `qarTul ocnebaSi~.
_ jer ar gqoniaT saubari?
_ Cven mzad varT Riad sasaubrod. nino burjanaZes arasdros daumalavs, ra ganwyobac
gvaqvs. 5 komponenti _ Tavisufali media, Tavisufali sasamarTlo, Tavisufali biznesi,
wagebul arCevnebSi wasvlas ra
azri aqvs? gekiTxebiT: xelisufleba imisTvis iRvwis amdeni xani, rom xalxi mivides arCevnebze, misces xma vinme sxvas
da TviTon daTmon Zalaufleba?
xelisufleba mudmiv saarCevno
reJimzea gadasuli, cvlis kanonebs, igonebs aTasgvar xri-
nino burjanaZe `qarTul
ocnebaSi~ rom mivides, biZina
ivaniSvilis avtoritets
Seulaxavso, amboben. maTma mzem,
vinc iqaa xom arian angelozebi?
naqmni. TviTmizani ar aris, magram situacia gvibiZgebs aqeTken.
Cveni partia iyo da aris gaerTianebuli `saxalxo krebaSi~. Tumca pirdapir vityvi, 26
maisis Semdeg Seilaxa `saxalxo krebis~ imiji da Cveni partiis imijic, magram Sefasebebi
axlac ki naadrevia. dro gava
da realurad ra, rogor moxda
26-Si, yvelafers naTeli moefineba.
dRes bevri rom ar gavagrZelo, vityvi: mzad varT brZolisTvis.
aris raRac qiliki feisbuqze _ ar dauZaxes burjanaZes
ivaniSvilTan, imitom akritikebs politikur liderebs da
a.S. Cven arc erTi politikuri
lideri ar gagvikritikebia da
arc Cveni mizania vinmes kritika. gvaqvs Cveni xedva im procesebisadmi, rac mosalodnelia
am qveyanaSi.
_ batono vaxtang, `qarTul
ocnebasTan~ ar gnebavT koaliciaSi yofna?
_ Cven sakuTari Sexedulebebi gvaqvs. Tu `qarTuli ocneba~ da maTSi Semavali partiebi
mzad arian Cveni poziciebis aRsaqmelad da gasaziareblad,
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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Tavisufali policia, Tavisufali csko _ es aris is qvakuTxedi, romelzec dgas es veSapi, _ xelisufleba. es 5 komponenti aris dasakmayofilebeli. xelisufleba Rebulobs
drakonul kanonebs da arTmevs
partiebs politikuri cxovrebis uflebas _ amis gauTvaliswinebloba SeuZlebelia.
magaliTad, irakli alasanias Tavisi xedvebi aqvs. misi
xedvebi gansxvavdeba Cvengan
imiT, rom mas miaCnia xelisuflebasTan molaparakebis gziT
miaRwios Sedegs, magram ganvlilma periodma, kerZod, batoni iraklis opoziciur politikur asparezze gamoCenam realuri Sedegi ar moitana. piriqiT, ufro uaresdeba situacia.
veneciis komisiaSi gagzavnili
kanon-proeqtis SeniSvnebi gaTvaliswinebuli ar iqna da ufro metic, imave proeqtSi ufro metad uxeSi Sesworebebi
aqvT TviTneburad Setanili. xelisufleba atyuebs saerTaSoriso organizaciebs.
amitomac vlaparakobT, rom dialogebi
Sedegs ar mogvcems.
ise gava erTi weliwadi da dadgeba arCevnebis dro, rom faqtis
winaSe aRmovCndebiT
da fasaduradac uvargisi kanoni da araxelsayreli saarCevno garemo SegvrCeba xelT.
_ es aris ZiriTadi damabrkolebeli faqtori imisa, rom
Tqven `qarTul ocnebasTan~ ar
mixvalT?
_ Cven aramarTebulad migvaCnia molaparakebebi. winaswar
kebs, amas imisTvis akeTebs, rom
TviTon umciresobaSi iyos da
dauTmos opozicias? maSin vin
unda aaSenos lazika? vin unda
ganaxorcielos is mravalwliani absurduli proeqtebi, rac
dagegmili aqvT? e.i. imis imediT uyrian safuZvels proeqtebs dRes, rom xval gadaabaron sxvas? raRac ar mgonia.
anu politikuri partiebi,
romlebic Sedian `qarTuli
ocnebis~ aliansSi, Tanaxma
arian, rom parlamentSi umciresobiT Sevlen, mere nacionalebis nawilis gadmobirebas
moaxerxeben da gaaumjobeseben
saarCevno vels, Secvlian konstitucias da a.S. Tu umravlesoba nacmoZraoba iqneba, romeli WkuaTmyofeli wamova umciresobisken da gadmova amaT
mxares. moisyidian? nu daaviwydebaT, rom aranaklebi fuladi
resursebi aqvs nacmoZraobasac
da aravis fulze ar daxarbdebian isini.
_ `qarTul ocnebaSi~ Semavali partiebi ar fiqroben amaze?
_ me ar mimaCnia, rom biZina
ivaniSvili windauxedavi kacia,
amitom mgonia, rom raRac gansakuTrebuli aqvT mofiqrebuli, rasac `gamoagdeben~ arCevnebis win. magaliTad, iqneba
gacxadebuli, rom mosaxleoba
erTi an ori wliT yvelanairi
gadasaxadisgan gaTavisufldeba.
SeiZleba asec iyos, SesaZloa,
vinmes vkarnaxobde ideas, magram, amazec aris, mgoni laparaki.
_ Tqven arCevnebisTvis emzadebiT da apirebT saarCevno
procesebSi aqtiurad Cabmas?
_ vemzadebiT, magram ar viciT, miviRebT Tu ara monawileobas. Tu araferi ar Seicvala da xelisuflebam kvlav gaagrZela opoziciuri Zalebis
maqsimaluri dablokva, adgilebi garantirebuli eqneba da ra
azri aqvs monawileobas? ratomRac yvelas miaCnia, rom
TavganwirviT unda ibrZolos
burjanaZis winaaRmdeg da sxva
brZola daiviwyos.
_ Tuki SeiZleba arCevnebSi
monawileoba ar miiRoT, boikots gamoacxadebT?
_ ara, boikotze araa laparaki.
_ aba, sxva ra gzas airCevT?
_ gegmebi gvaqvs, magram 8-9
TviT adre ver gavamxelT partiis gegmebs, miuxedavad imisa,
rom Tqven mTxoveT gulwrfeli
vyofiliyavi.
Cven vibrZolebT Seiqmnas
normaluri saarCevno garemo da
amisTvis ar daviSurebT Zalisxmevas. vimuSavebT partiebTan,
gveqneba konsultaciebi. brZolis is teqnologia, rasac mimarTavs `qarTuli ocneba~ aramarTebulad migvaCnia da
roca Sexvedra gveqneba, Cven davarwmunebT maT, rom aseT
brZolas Sedegi ar eqneba. veWvobT, Cveni
Sexvedra zustad imi-
tom ferxdeba, rom SeiZleba davarwmunoT
ZiriTadi Zalebi maT
mier aRebuli kursis
araefeqturobaSi.
Tu `qarTuli ocneba~ Cveni
Sexedulebebis mqone partiasTan dialogze mzad aris, Cven
winaaRmdegi ara varT. Tuki, davuSvaT, dasawyis etapze sxvadasxva gzebiT vivliT, perspeqtivaSi unda arsebobdes erTi
mTavari, sadac gadaikveTeba Cveni interesebi da gaverTiandebiT.
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_`qarTul ocnebamde~ `demokratiuli moZraoba~ da `saxalxo kreba~ iyo is Zala, romelic erT-eerT yvelaze ukompromiso da angariSgasawev gaerTianebad iTvleboda nacmoZraobis winaaRmdeg. gaCnda `qarTuli ocneba~. Tqven calke Zalas
qmniT?
_ vxvdebi, Tqven mesame centrs gulisxmobT. iciT, raSia
saqme? aravis dauSlia `saxalxo kreba~. midis saubrebi, rom
moxdes kidev gamsxvileba. SeiZleba, am Zalam `qarTul ocnebasTan~
paraleluri
gziT
iaros da gadaikveTos, roca saWiro momenti dadgeba. es iqneba yvelaze ukeTesi varianti
xelisuflebis
winaaRmdeg
brZolaSi.
_ Tqven TqviT, rom SesaZloa, `qarTul ocnebasTan~ paralelurad reJimSi ibrZoloT. ra aris is, raSic principulad ar eTanxmebiT `qarTul ocnebas~ da masTan paralelur gzaze svlas amjobinebT?
_ (eRimeba).
Cven ar veTanxmebiT
Canacvlebas. migvaCnia, rom xelisufleba
unda Seicvalos. Tu
Canacvlebazea laparaki, amas ver daveTanxmebiT.
amomrCevelma normalur pirobebSi unda misces xma da meore dRes quCaSi ar unda mouwios siaruli am xmis dasacavad. Cveni mizani araa revoluxelisufleba yvela daSvebul
da akrZalul meTodebs iyenebs,
marTvis sadaveebis SesanarCuneblad, rogorc ki gamoCnda biZina
ivaniSvili, atyda facafuci. mTeli opoziciuri partiebi unda gaerTiandeT, dadgeT erTad, Torem
ubedureba ar agvcdeba. Tqven ise
iqceviT krilovis igav-aarakis ar
_ iyos `ÎÄÍÀÆÄÈ ËÅÁÅÄÜ
exla magis
ÐÀÊ ÄÀ ØÓÊÀ~,
dro ar aris, dadeqiT biZina ivaniSvilis gverdiT da droze moviSoroT es mkvleli diqtatori
korumpirebuli prezidenti. mere,
Tu gindaT petre airCieT da Tu
gind ivane. xalxno, risi geSiniaT,
aseT cxovrebas, raRa SiSiT movkvde, vaJkacurad da kacurad movkvde is mirCevnia. ras utovebT SviliSvilebs, momaval Taobas? 26
maiss iq vinc idga da icema, moklulebze aRar viZaxi, yvela vaJkaci da didi mamuliSvilebi arian. mTelma msofliom naxa amaTi
faSizmi. Semoiyvanes ucxo qveynis
mkvlelebi da axocines da acemines Cveni xalxi, awamebines, isini
rom qarTvelebi yofiliyvnen _
qalbaton nonas, Cvens saamayo pirovnebas xom icnobdnen, me ar
mjera, rom masze xeli aRemarTa
qarTvels, Svils daTos, ybebi daungries. gamodis es laliaSvilia
Tu traliaSvilia da ambobs _
Cven kargi xelisufleba gvyavso,
metic unda gaekeTebinao, Se faSisto, Se arakaco, is xalxi rogor ar Segecoda, Seni xelisufleba ambobs, cota gadameteba mogvividao. Se faSisto, mets daumatebdi, aba, Sena xar qarTveli kaci. amboben nino burjanaZem xalxi
gareT gamoiyvana da TviTon gaiqcao. me iq viyavi, ninos ar vicnob,
magram mas CemTvis ar uTqvams, gamodio, xalxi daiRala amaTi reJimiT da imitom gamovida gareT, ra
gindaT qalbaton ninosgan? man daamtkica, rom is aris uSiSari da
saerTo gazeTi
cia, magram demokratiul arCevnebs viTxovT. ar SeiZleba momaval parlamentSi mesamedi
nacmoZraoba darCes.
_ nacmoZraoba Tu ar erqmeva, yofili nacmoZraobeli bevri
iqneba.
im SemTxvevaSi Tu opoziciam bevri xma moagrova, xalxisTvis es iqneba sargebeli?
_ ratom fiqrobT ase? CerCilmac araerTxel Seicvala
politikuri platforma, magram
is aravis gaukicxavs amis gamo.
me ar vadanaSauleb nacmoZraobis Zvel wevrebs da maTTan daaxloebul im adamianebs, romlebis mixvdnen da wamovidnen
iqedan. ra Tqma unda, nino burjanaZes 2008 wels imis garantia rom hqonoda, eyoleboda
Tavisi momxre deputatebis
garkveuli raodenoba, darCeboda da gaagrZelebda brZolas,
magram, roca nacionalurma
jgufma dainaxa ninos Seupovroba da ukompromisoba, datoves marto da aiZules gaekeTebina is, rac gaakeTa. yvela politikosi romeliRac politikuri movlenis nawilia, sxvanairad politikosi ver iqneba.
_ mokled, Tqven kvlav mitingis gzas irCevT Tu arCevnebs TanxmdebiT?
_ zemoT ukve mogaxseneT
amaze _ Tu ar dakmayofildeba
is 5 komponenti, mitingebis gziT unda moxdes zewola xelisuflebaze, Seiqmnas normaluri
saarCevno garemo. yvela revolucia bolos zaviT mTavrdeba
da mitingebis mere molaparakebebi da arCevnebi iqneboda, albaT.
_ 26 maiss Tqveni moTxovna
iyo `miSa gadadeqi!~ miSa erTxel gadadga, maSinac rom gadamdgariyo, arCevnebSi gamarjvebis ra perspeqtiva arsebobda?
_ maSin namdvilad cudi saarCevno kanoni iyo, magram axlandelTan SedarebiT saukeTesod SeiZleba CaiTvalos.
_ minda SeafasoT 26 maisi.
dRevandel dRes rogor uyurebT im movlenebs?
rac moxda, amas veravin
warmoidgenda. 1989 wlis 9 aprilsac daarbia xalxi rusulma samxedro Zalam, magram gasasvleli datova. xalxs sasikvdilod rom gaimetebdnen, veravin warmoadgenda.
Cven mivaRwieT imas, rom
msofliom dainaxa, rogori demokrati aris mixeil saakaSvili.
`human raiTs voCi~ pirdapir acxadebs, rom pasuxism-
_ oh, mZime sakiTxia. (pauza.) iq adamianebis sikvdili
didi tragediaa...
26 maisi Seqmna xelisuflebam. Sedegebic maT kiserzea.
esaa erTaderTi, risi Tqmac SemiZlia.
_ qalbatoni nino ambobda,
Tu 26 maiss rusTavelze opoziciuri partiebi Tu ar movlen, pasuxismgebloba Sedegebze
maT kiserze iqnebao.
_ iq xalxi rom ar iyo sakmarisi raodenobiT, imitom gabeda xelisuflebam.
gebloba ekisreba xelisuflebas. 26 maisis movlenebi sakmaod obieqturad aris
Sefasebuli.
parlamentSi rom yofiliyo nino burjanaZisnairi adamianebi, xelisuflebas frTebis
farTod gaSlis saSualeba ar
miecemoda da amdens ver gabedavda. is ki ara, 8 agvistos
omic ar moxdeboda.
_ batono vaxtang, `qarTuli ocnebis~ gareT darCenili
opoziciuri partiebi ganurCevlad SeZleben TqvenTan mosv-
mkiTxvelTa fosta
geyofaT, Tqve unamusoebo!
gmiri deda, imitom rom Tqvenze
meti ganaTlebulia, is afTariviT
icavda Tavis xalxs da Svils, romelic gverdSi edga Tavis dedas.
partiebi rom gamosuliyvnen Tavisi xalxiT, es ubedureba ar moxdeboda. magram ubedureba is aris,
rom yvelas pirveloba gindaT, is
girCevniaT, erTmaneTs daudgeT
gverdiT da gadaarCinoT qveyana.
`kavkasiaze~ gamovida erTi qali, mas qalbatons ar veZaxi da
ambobs: ra undaT am miSasgan? sastumroebi, saxlebi, saavadmyofoebi, raionebSi klinikebi agviSena,
gzebi dagvigoo. Se wyeulo, imas
ratom ar ambob, xalxs rom marto purisaTvis yofnis is Seni 100
lari. amas ratom ar ambobs, rom
evropaSi pirvel adgilze varT
bavSvebis sikvdilianobaSi, msoflioSi me-4
4 adgilze varT dapatimrebuli xalxiT da plus wamebiT kvlaSi, imas ratom ar iZaxi,
iaRovelebiT rom gaavso saqarTvelo da eklesiebs Seusia gaponebi.
imas ratom ar iZaxi saqarTvelo
Suaze gaxliCa. SviliSvili moxvda avariaSi, orive laviwis Zvle-
bi daemtvra, saswrafom miiyvana
respublikur saavadmyofoSi, ori
operacia gaukeTes. 1800 lari gadavixade, tkivilebisagan kinaRam
momikles mag damplebma, rom mivedi, bavSvs Zlieri tkivilebi aqvs
_ meTqi, gamayuCebels mivcemTo,
gamayuCebeli ras uSvelis, rentgeni gadauReT da naxeT, rogor
midis _ meTqi procesi. gadauRes
miTxres saswrafod germaniaSi wa-
iyvaneTo. Se wamlebs xom ver miekarebi iseTi fasebi adevs, 50
TeTrs daakleben da aris erTi ambavi wamlebs fasi davakeliTo. ai,
aseT qveyanaSi vcxovrobT. vekiTxebi am qals, wavikiTxe gazeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~. guli momikvda batoni giorgi gaCeCilaZe
wers, TurqeTis premier-mministrma
da saakianma SeTanxmebas miaRwies,
rom saqarTvelo sazRvarze gadaketon mtkvari. mere naxeT mTeli
saqarTvelo ganavalSi rom Cajdeba, ager axla samecniero biblioTekas miadga gasayidad. mokled ar
indobs arafers, yidis yvelafers.
es xalxis istoriuli biblioTekaa, vin xar, ra ginda am saqarTvelosTan, riTi veRar gaZexi, wadi,
daasvene es ubeduri, gaRatakebuli xalxi, miliardebi xom miitace Tu kadafis rekordi ginda
moxsna, magden miliards ver daagroveb, nu dagaviwydeba im xalxis
rusTavelis Teatris scenaze
axladdaarsebuli `minis Teatris~
speqtaklis Cveneba gaimarTeba
xval rusTavelis Teatris scenaze axladdaarsebuli minis Teatris speqtaklis tenesi uiliamsis
„minis samxeces“ Cveneba gaimarTeba.
Teatri swored am speqtakliT wardga saerTaSoriso Teatralur festivalebze.
minis Teatri warmoadgens Teatraluri xelovnebis magistris, reJisor rezo SatakiSvilis mier
daarsebul kerZo, profesiul arastacionarul, sarepertuaro, dramatul Teatrs – ar gaaCnia Senoba, sakuTari scena, hyavs mudmivmoqmedi, axalgazrda
profesionali msaxiobebiT dakompleqtebuli Teatraluri dasi da warmodgenebs marTavs sxvadasxva
Teatris scenaze, rogorc saqarTveloSi, ise sazRvargareT.
las? magaliTad, gaCeCilaZes da
misTanebs miiRebT?
_ gaCeCilaZe sxvaTa Soris,
Tavis droze Seupovrad ibrZoda. axla sxva gvarebs ar davasaxeleb. igivenairad amboben biZina ivaniSvilze nino burjanaZe rom masTan mivides, reputacias Seulaxavso. Tu ara, maTma mzem, vinc iq arian, xom arian angelozebi.
ki, batono, `saxalxo krebaSic~ iyvnen zogierTi arafris
maqnisebi, zogi Semogzavnilebic, romlebic axla `qarTul
ocnebaSi~ gadabargdnen, magram
ra bedenac krebaSi iyvnen, igive iqnebian `qarTul ocnebaSic~.
Cvens partias warsulic
aqvs da didi gamocdilebac miviReT am xnis ganmavlobaSi.
yvelas mogexsenebaT, 26 maisis
movlenebis dros dapatimrebuli Cveni partiis wevrebi dResac sapyrobileebSi hyavT. im
movlenebis monawile 42 adamiani dRes cixeSi imyofeba, 200mde momitingem ukve moixada
sasjeli. es 42adamiani isinia,
visac sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulSi sdeben brals, sTxoven
aRiarebas da saproceso SeTanxmebas da ar Tanxmdebian Caudeneli danaSaulis aRiarebas.
avadmyofi kaci, romelic
TbilisSi samkurnalod modioda, gauformes policielisTvis
winaaRmdegobis gawevis braldeba da 3 weliwadi miusajes. am
kacs sisxlis gaTeTreba aqvs,
Tirkmlis problemebi awuxebs,
gulis daavadeba aqvs da cixeSi atarebs darCenil dReebs.
iranda kalandaZe
sikvdili Sens kiserzea, romeli
erTi CamogiTvalo: zurab Jvania,
guram SaraZe, afrasiZeebi, robaqiZe, girgvliani, vazagaSvili da is
yvela, romlebic miwaSi Caasvene,
axla xan _ avtobusiT seirnob,
xan manqaniT, xan _ TviTmfrinaviT,
xan _ velosipediT, Caxvedi gorSi
da imdeni tyuilebi ilaparake, gamoTiSe-mmeTqi, vuTxari bavSvs. xo,
marTla, velosipedi vaxsene, stalinis Zegli rom aiRe, mand Seni
`zemliakis~ _ kamos velosipedi
dagedga, is jobda, somxebs gaaxarebdi. rac Sen gaakeTe qarTveli
xalxis mimarT, miSa, naxevari ar
gaukeTebia miloSeviCs, Sen rom
sindisi gawuxebdes, amis mere arCevnebSi monawileobas ar miiRebdi, magram, icodeT, Cemo lamazo
da vaJkaco xalxo, miSa saakiani am
arCevnebs ver moigebs. gamagrdiT,
ar SeSindeT, SiSs sikvdili sjobia, magram Cven am kaciWamia
mTavrobas moviSorebT im nagvis
fulTan erTad, es jalaTebi Tavis
gzas male ipovian...
gamagrdiT, CvenTan aris RmerTi!
irakli doliZe,
Tbilisi
,,minis Teatris“ SemoqmedebiT jgufs ukve gaaCnia saerTaSoriso kontaqtebi. Teatris oficialurad daarsebamde Teatrisa da kinos universitetis
saxeliT monawileobdnen kiSinovisa da minskis saerTaSoriso Teatralur festivalebSi.
dasis mizania maRalmxatvruli, konkurentunariani produqciis Seqmna da gatana sazRvargareT,
msoflio Teatralur sivrceSi mimdinare procesebis uSualod, adgilze gasacnobad, qarTuli Tanamedrove Teatris popularizaciaSi wvlilis Sesatanad.
„minis Teatris“ mizania xeli Seuwyos qveynis
SemoqmedebiTi axalgazrdobis TviTrealizacias,
profesiul daostatebas, SemoqmedebiTi Tvalsawieris gafarToebas.
`medianiusi~
7
8 saerTo gazeTi
arc rusudan kervaliSvilis Temas Sevexebodi, arc ivaniSvilisa da
misi ojaxis advokatobas vapireb.
Tumca am “nacionalurad Tavis gamoCenebma” da erTmaneTisTvis ivaniSvilis lanZRvaSi qulebis Caweraze
daswrebam, yvelafers gadaaWarba. nacionalebsac umetes SemTxvevaSi,
swored “Cemi Sen giTxario, guli
mogikalio” emarTebaT. aRarafers
vambob marTla mdabio wiklaurze,
romelic imis gamo, rom “kargi biWis adgili” ar dakargos, yvelafris
Tqmas kadrulobs. isic gvaxsovs,
`qsenofobiaze da rasistobaze acrili” nacebis es `inteleqtualuri
saxe” puSkinis biustis aRebas rom
iTxovda. “didi inteleqtis” gamoisobiT daaviwyda, rom puSkinis babuaganibali, mavri iyo da ara rusi.
Tumca amaT babua-bbebiebic xom arCeviT hyavT. `zogs” mxolod dedis
mxridan, etyoba, mamis mxris genetikas bavSvis dabadebaSi wvlili ar
miuZRvis. TorTlaZis, maWavarianis,
xabazis, goka gabaSvilis, akuki minaSvilis da sxvaTa araargumentirebul isterikaze da padxalimur gancxadebebze aRarafers vambob. ra “WameT, biWebo” amdeni, Tavmoyvareobac
rom dakargeT (fexze damyenebeli megobris sikvdilze dumils rom avuaroT gverdi), magram es kervaliSvili, romelsac meuRlis gardacvalebamde samzareulodan “cxvirs ar
ayofinebdnen”, es ra dReSia?! nacionalebis siaSi Seyvanili kervaliSvilis gamosvlebisas, `centr pointis” fulebiT gagzavnili mesijebiT:
`Tqven namdvili qvelmoqmedi da ke-
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
sebuli kervaliSvilic axerxebT
`politikur paeqrobas” (rogor da
ra damajereblobiT gamogdiT, sxva
saqmea), es ekaterine xvedeliZesac
ar gauWirdeba
qalbaton rusudans Sevaxseneb,
26 maisis mitingze umowyalod dar-
kervaliSvili da arc kublaSvilTan
erTad yovlad saSineli kanonebis
iniciatori- Ciora, Tu “mwyerCita”
TaqTaqiSvilic aRar iqnebian. qalbaton rusudans, “Teatralizebuli
politikis” gagrZelebis SesaZlebloba, axla msaxiobis rangSic eqne-
beuli da daxocili adamianebis
mkvlelobis faqtze sagamoZiebo komisiis SeqmnasTan dakavSirebiT,
“qalTa samoqalaqo moZraoba Tamarionis” parlamentSi masTan Sexvedras. misTvis Cveuli `ra kdemamosilebiT” mogvicila Tavidan, TiTqos
TviTon qali da deda ar yofiliyos?! albaT, aris, magram ojaxuri
biznesinteresis gamo nacionalebTan
spikerobas rom dasTanxmdebi, mere
imasac ikadreb, razec qvemoT mogaxsenebT.
sxva tradiciebTan erTad saqarTveloSi naTel-mmironobasac Rrma
fesvebi aqvs. naTel-mmironoba CvenTan
cxra Taobaze gadadis da naTlul-nnaTlias ojaxebi naTesave-
ba. naTliobaze Txovnas (scenaris
Sesabamisad) didi pauza, mohyolia,
rac kerveliSvilisTvis Cveuli `mironcxebuli toniT”- `gmadlobT,
ufaloo”, dagvirgvinda. naTlias
naTlulisTvis marTalia, oqros
jvari ki gaumetebia, magram naTlobis sufraze, romelsac naTlulis
devnilma ojaxma, qarTuli sufris
Sesabamisad, (vin icis, ra gaWirvebiT), `Citis rZec” ar daaklo _
qalbatonma rusudanma mibrZanebac ki
ar ikadra. an ratom mividoda. am gaWirvebuli ojaxisTvis ra gziTa da
ra wvalebiT, sapatio stumrisTvis
gamzadebul sufrasTan, “mdidarTa
ama soflisaTa”, ra esaqmebaT?! an is
raSi anaRvlebda rusudan kervaliS-
winidan, Tu uknidan. SesaZloa aRmoCndes, rom erT SenobaSi ganTavsebuli da ori Sesavlelis mqone saavadmyofos xarjebi or saavadmyofoSi wolad gagiformdeT. rusudan
kervaliSvili ki, merwmuneT, am xarjebs namdvilad ar aginazRaurebT.
mas imis gambedaobac ki ar hyofnis,
Tavis interviuSi daafiqsiros, rom
ivaniSvilisTvis moqalaqeobis CamorTmevas
saakaSvils
aravin
hkiTxavs. magram, ramdenac saakaSvili Tavis “aramkiTxe cxvirs”, sadac
ar ekiTxebian, yvelgan hyofs: kinoSi, TeatrSi, arqiteqturaSi, poeziaSi, musikaSi, qalebs “mSobiarobis
drosac udgens” da baTumis cirkisa
da delfinariumis gaxsnis didi gamocdilebaca aqvs,
gamoricxuli
araa qarTuli andazis mixedviT:
“aramkiTxe moambe, mibertyes da miagdeso”, masac ase daemarTos. gayalbebuli arCevnebis Semdeg ivaniSvils
endomeba es Tu ara, xalxi quCaSi
TavisiT gamova. aq ki, sul tyuilad
aqvs nacionalur moZraobas qarTveli xalxis kidev erTxel cemisa da
galaxvis imedi. amaT Tavs aRaravin
gaalaxinebs, radgan xalxis cemiT
eseni yovel jerze, saqarTvelos
scemen da usworeben angariSs. samjer- erTxel 7 noembers, meored _
6 maiss, mesamed ki 26 maiss nacionalebisgan qarTveli xalxi ukve gailaxa da moikla kidec. axla amaTi
galaxvis jeri dadga, Tu adamianuri sityvebis- “arCevnebis gziT wadiT, biWeboo” Sesmena ar surT da
maincadamainc cema-t
tyepiT unda gairekon. gairekebian kidec, oRond ise,
rom ukan mosabrunebeli gza
aRar darCebaT. amitom, sanam
saxaa. . . CvenTvis, omi gacilebiT
adre daiwyo, romelic ukve didi
xania grZeldeboda.. . .omis Tavidan
acileba warmoudgeneli iyo. es omi
mTelma msofliom, rogorc okupacia da eTnowmenda ise Seafasao”.
qalbatono rusudan, maSin Tu iyo
ruseTi okupanti, rodesac afxazeTis didi nawili wagvarTva omiT da
maSin, rodesac vaxtang rCeuliSvili ruseTSi moqmedi aviakompania
“lidias” mflobeli iyo? omis Tavidan acilebis SesaZleblobaze,
ara Tu qarTvelebi, saerTaSoriso
eqspertebic ki saubroben. an imis
aRiarebas Tu gabedavT, rom eTnowmenda ruseTze metad saakaSvilma
mouwyo qarTvelebs? is gancxadebac,
rom Tqvens Soris, (albaT nacionalebs gulisxmobT) ideologiuri
gamowvevis, “anu is, rac Cveni mosaxleobis pirobebs gaaumjobesebs”arseboba gsurT, getyviT, rom ivaniSvilma, saakaSvilisgan gansxavavebiT, romelmac daaqcia da gaaRataka naxevarze meti saqarTvelo, didi
xania bevr adamians gauumjobesa pirobebica da sikvdilisgan SimSilisganac ixsna. anu es ideologiuri gamowveva, ukve ivaniSvilis sasargeblod, mogebulad CaTvaleT.
ideologia,
mTavari is qarTuli
zneoba da moralia, romlis natamalic nacionalur moraobas arc mosvlis dRidan gaaCnda da axla xom
saerTod aRar gaaCnia. es aris mTavari ideologiouri omi da am oms,
damerwmuneT, qarTveli xalxi moigebs.
geTanxmebiT imaSi, rom saakaSvi-
ratom epataraveba TvalSi
ekaterine xvedeliZe
xalxis gadamgdeb
`centr-pointis~ dedofals?!
TilSobili qalbatoni brZandebiTo”- xom gvaxsovs. es `keTilSobili
qalbatonic” dRes “didi monazoniviT” rom locavs da imoZRvreba saeklesio dResaswaulebze, axla ki
ekaterene xvedeliZesac rom gadaswvda- “ekaterine xvedeliZes gauWirdeba politikaSi, radgan bevr gamocdil opozicionerTan mouwevs paeqrobao.” sxvaTa Soris, ekaterine xvedeliZe bevr im opozicioner qalbatons ajobebs sityva-ppasuxsa da kdemamosilebaSi, maT Soris Tqvenc qalbatono rusudan, romelTac hgoniaT,
rom “Tavi ukve qudSi aqvT” da “didi ineteleqtiT brwyinaven”. q-nnma
rusudanma, masTan TxovniT misuli
erTi adamianis Svili direqtors daabarebina da samsaxuridan gagdebiT
daemuqra, Tu dedamisi qalbaton rusudans kidev Seawuxebda. qalbaton
rusudans gavaxseneb Cvens ulamazes
da marTlac ukeTilSobiles qalbaton, medea jafariZes. erT dros aseve deputats, magram albaT, medea jafariZis Tandayolili keTilSobileba unda mogdgamdes da ara (siZis)
spikerobisas naSovni fuli, q-nn medeasaviT TiToeul adamianTan piradad
rom mixvide da misi satkivari gaiziaro. ra vuyoT, is medea iyo jafariZe _ es rusudania, “centr pointis dedofali”, Tanac, rogorc
etyoba, Zunwic. sakuTar Tavze warmodgenaca da ambiciac amas miqvia?!
sadac Ciora (”mwyerCita”) TaqTaqiSvili, kublaSvili, maWavariani, akuki
minaSvili, balavaZe, xaTuna oCiauri,
eka xerxeuliZe, giga nasariZe, mixeil TavxeliZe, goka gabaSvili da es
erTianad, xalxisgan gasawewad gawirul erTian gundTan erTad `madam
tiusos cvilis qandakebas” damsgav-
bad iTvlebian. sxva saqmea, 2003
wels revoluciiT mosuli da
“naTel-mmironobis kavSirebiT
ganmticebuli” erTiani gundidan, barikadebis vin romel mxares
aRmoCnda dRes. ra naTel-mmironobazea saubari, rodesac amaT ara Tu
naTelmironobis, biZaSvil-mmamidaSvilobisac da lamis, dedmaSvilobisac ara swamT. razec mogaxsenebT,
winasaarCevnod, 2008 wlis 6 maiss
moxda, rodesac qalbatoni kervaliSvili # 1 referalur saavadmyofoSi samaCablodan devnili adamianebis mosanaxuleblad mibrZanda.
nacionaluri moZraobis “mironcxebul saxes” wagebuli omis Semdgom
saTanado piaric daavales. amisTvis,
misi pressamsaxuris ufrosi Tika
ruxaZe saavadmyofos direqtors winaswar SesTanxmebia, rom samaCablodan devnili qalbatoni nacionalebis spikers Svilis naTlobas
sTxovda. is ki moulodnelobisgan
dabneulobas gaiTamaSebda da Semdeg
dasTanxmdeboda. asec moxda. rodesac omwagebuli saakaSvilis davalebiT, qalbatoni kervaliSvili referalur saavadmyofoSi devnilebis
mosanaxuleblad mibrZanda. SeTanxmebisamebr, devnil qalbatons, misTvis
axladdabadebuli Cvilis naTlioba
uTxovia. vin icis, usaxlkarod darCenil Cvens Tanamemamules imis imedic hqonda, rom Tbilisis iersaxis
damaxinjebaSi, klientebis gadagdebaSi milionebnaSovni “centr pointis” dedofali, gaWirvebaSi Cavardnil Tanamemamuleebs xels gaumarTavda. Tu sacxovrebeli biniT ara,
materialurad mainc daexmareboda
momaval naTluls. qalbaton rusudans roli ise ostaturad Seusrulebia, rom Tavad tovstonogovsac
ki SeSurdeboda aseTi msaxiobis. Sesabamisad, bokerias mier Sedgenil
siebSi, sadac, rogorc amboben, arc
vils am sufris gaSlis sanacvlod
isedac devnili da saxl-kkaridan ayrili ojaxi mSieri ramdeni dRe
darCeboda. es aris “nacionaluri
naTel-mmironica” da amaTi keTilSobilebac. aseTi adamianebi saubroben
im ojaxis wevrebze, romelic amdeni welia, sruliad uangarod exmareboda da SimSiliT sikvdilisgan
ixsnida aTasobiT Tanamemamules. im
dros, ra drosac, rusudan kervaliSvilis “centr pointma” gayvlifa, uxarisxod auSena da (Jargonis
eniT) aTasobiT adamiani “gadaagdo”.
samagierod, misi ojaxi cxovrobs
kidev droa, Wkuaze modiT, biWebo. am “saarCevno bakxanalias” Tavi daanabeT. Tu saakaSvili Tavis ojaxs mobezrebia,
Tqvens ojaxebs Tqveni Tavi ramed
xom uRirT. ena mainc gaaCereT da
amden sisuleleebs teleekranebidan
xalxs nuRar asmeninebT. regionebs
Cayvanili yviTeli avtobusebiT ki
atyuebT, magram Tbilismac, quTaismac da baTumac yvelaferi icis.
“bolSevikoba”_ raodenobrivad bevri, arafers niSnavs. xarisxi da inteleqtia mTavari, romeli xarisxica da inteleqtic, sabednierod,
xelgaSlilad da mis Svilebs arc
SiaT, arc scivaT da arc swyuriaT.
saavadmoyofoebis Temaze sagarejoeli kacis monaTxrob kidev erTi ambavs momiyvnen: erT-eerTi saavadmoyofo aw ukve `netarebaSi garekil” am
Cven prezidents jer wina Sesavlelidan, meore kviras ki ukana Sesasvlelidanac gauWria lentiT. ase
rom, RmerTma ar hqnas, saavadmyofoSi moxvedrisas, kargad daakvirdiT,
romeli Sesavlelidan SedixarT-
RmerTma TqvenTvis ar gaimeta. radgan swored bolSevikebis cnobili
lozungiT moxvediT “nacional-nneobolSevikebi” _ «êòî áûë íè÷åì, òîò
ñòàíåò âñåì».
qalbatoni rusudani brZanebs,
rom “agvistos omTan” dakavSirebiT, mis (ivaniSvilis b.a.) xedvebs
ar vicnobdi. axla ki SemiZlia
giTxraT, rom omTan dakavSirebiT,
ivaniSvilisgan gansxvavebiT, Cemi
damokidebuleba absoluturad cal-
li regionebSi dadis, (ufro swored dawanwalebs). qveynis yvela
kuTxes ki, gastronomiuri moTxovnilebebis dasakmayofileblad da
drostarebis- Txilamurebze srialis, “daivingis” (yvinTvis) da
auzebSi aRviraxsnili garTobebisTvis stumrobs. Cemze kargad unda mogexsenebodeT, rom prezidentad wodebul saakaSvils, xalxis bedi iseve adardebs, rogorc vera qobalias
qarTuli ekonomika da xaTuna kamaxeliZes patimrebi. im drakonuli
saarCevno kanonebisa da regulaciebis Semdeg, demokratiul arCevenebis CatarebasTanTan dakavSirebiT
gakeTebuli farisevluri gancxadebebis keTeba saWiro aRar aris. amaT
veRaraferi uSvelis awi. gimeorebT,
biZina ivaniSvili iqneba lideri, Tu
romelime sxva, Tqveni “erTiani gundi” arCevnebis gayalbebas ukve Seudga. amitom xalxi Tavisi gayalbebuli xmebis dasacavad aucileblad
gamova. merwmuneT, amas verc miSasa
da vanos specrazmebi, akustikuri
iaraRi da gazi uSvelis. qarTveli
xalxi saqarTvelos am tartarozebisgan gasaTavisufleblad gamova.
Tqven ki qalbatono rusudan, vfiqrob, “tartarozTa nacionaluri
moZraobis” yofili saparlamento
spikeris iarliyis mocileba Zalian
gagiWirdebaT. kargi iqneba, Tu intervius micemisas amaze ufro ifiqrebT, vidre imaze, rogor asiamovnoT axla ukve “netarebaSi garekil” mixeil saakaSvils. “CaTrevas
yovelTvis Cayola ar sjobs” da
arc “dumilia yovelTvis oqro”,
radgan naTqvamia _ “qriste dumiliT
gaicemao”.
baia amaSukeli
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
zaur kalandia
adamianebi varT da TiTqos
Cveulebrivi ambavia SiSi da
undobloba, magram Cveni eWvianoba ukve urwmunoebamde aRwevs da imdenad uZlurebi
vxdebiT, fsiqosTeniiT daavadebulebs vemsgavsebiT...
vfiqrobT, batonma biZina
ivaniSvilma Zalian ubralod
da gasagebad gviTxra Tavis
pirvelsave werilSi, me yvelaferi maqvs, magram am yvelafris qonaSi, mivxvdi, samSoblos vkargav da politikaSi mosvla gadavwyviteo!
es bevrma sworad aRiqva
da daijera, mec maT ricxvSi
var.
metic, erTi didi qarTveli mamuliSvili gamaxsena am
gancxadebam da, Tu ratom, axlave mogaxsenebT.
gasuli saukunis oTxmocian wlebSi axalgazrda mwerlebi baton pavle ingoroyvasTan drodadro avdiodiT. ukve Rrmad moxuci iyo, loginSi mwoliare... erTxel eqvTime TayaiSvilze CamovugdeT
sityva.
gaixara,
Tvalebi
aucimcimda, gvismina, gvismina... rom gavutieT, rogor gadaarCina qveynis sulieri ganZeuloba, ra didi gmiroba Caidina samSoblos winaSe... Tavi baliSidan odnav wamoswia,
Tvalebmowkurulma Semogvxeda da gviTxra _ aba, ra unda
eqnao?
amis pasuxi Cven ar gvqonda.
imis Tqma minda, vinc icis,
baton
biZina
ivaniSvilis
cxovrebis wesi da saqcieli,
visac erTxel mainc Seuvlia
Tvali samebisaTvis mtkvris
gamoRmidan Tu samebidan gadauxedavs TbilisisaTvis, imisTvis eWvs ar unda iwvevdes es
gancxadeba da rogorc iTqva,
ise unda gaigos!
cudia, magram ara saSiSi,
xelisuflebas es rom ar sje-
saerTo gazeTi
deb brals, magram ivaniSvilis
gancxadebiT dafeTebuli, ase
mgonia, samSobloze iyris
javrs!...
eWvi adamianis Tanmdevia,
eWvi, SeiZleba, Segeparos,
magram raxan gaCnda adamianad,
misTvis siyvarulis akrZalvis
ufleba, uflis nebasac ki
scildeba!
axlaxan erTi saintereso
interviu wavikiTxe gazeT
`qronikaSi~.
`Sen ici, vin iyo `Zroxa~,
anzora? ai, magisi biWia ivaniSvilis gundSi!~ _ pasuxobs
batoni laSa amirejibi gela
zedelaSvils.
mesmis, batoni laSa Tavisi
zneobiT, RirsebiT, mamuliSvilobiT zomavs da Wris, magram, samwuxarod, misnairi gulanTebuli mamuliSvilebi misi gvariviT cotaa da verc
saarCevno urnas gadaswonis.
es erTi problema. meore,
Cvenda saubedurod, `Zroxa~
anzoras SvilebiT da Tavad
msgavsi `anzorebiT~ aris es
qveyana gadaZeZgili. miT umetes, rogor gairCes es, ra saSualebebiT unda daaxarisxo
_ Zroxebad, Zroxis Svilebad
da keTilSobilebad es xalxi,
aravin icis da, meeWveba, batonma biZinamac rom icodes!
Tqven warmoidgineT, arCevnebSi mxolod erTi xma aqvs
baton laSas uZvirfases mamas
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magram gulze aSkarad momxvda
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gamodis, yvelaferi Tavidan aris dasawyebi.
erovnuli moZraobac, `wera-kiTxvis
gamavrcelebeli
sazogadoebac~ da a.S. miuxedavad amisa, am werils imedianad davamTavreb.
* * *
batoni biZina ivaniSvilis
pirveli-meore werilis Sem-
mcired arian
rCeulni...
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
ra.
ise, SeiZleba, dResac aqvs
vinmes msgavsi idea da muSaobs...
marTalia, mweralTa kavSirs ukve ar sWirdeba igi. ar
arsebobs da imitom.
ai, cota gaumjobesebuli
manqana-danadgari rom gvqondes, gaarkvevs, vin marTalia,
vin mtyuani, vin qarTvelia,
vin _ ara, mteria Tu moyvare,
ar gvawyenda!
axlaxan `qarTuli ocne-
bis~ darbazSi SevikribeT. bevri nacnobi saxe da Rirseuli
pirovneba damxvda iq. piradad
me, madlobis meti ra meTqmis,
mowvevis Rirsi rom gamxades.
rogorc avRniSne, bevri
Rirseuli
pirovneba-meTqi,
magram aranakleb uRirsebi iyvnen iq mowveulni, maT Soris,
damxvdurebSic ki, erT-or
iseT vinmesac Sevxvdi, RmerTo
mapatie, sakuTar sadarbazoSi
davardnili ucxo kaci rom
naxos, pulssac ki ar gausinjavs, cocxalia Tu ara, jibeebs amoutrialebs, iqneb raime
aqvso!
ase rom, Zroxa erTi keTili da uwyinari cxovelia... iq
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manqana-danadgaris mflobeli
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da vin SetirilSi codvebis
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daviT berZeniSvili:
rodesac obamam `Zalauflebis
formaluri gadacema~ axsena, saakaSvilma
misTvis kveris dakvra Sewyvita
erTi ufrosi, gardacvlili megobari gamaxsenda. didebuli mTargmneli da poeti
gigla sariSvili. batoni gigla didxans ocnebobda, gamoegonebina iseTi manqana _ danadgari, romelic mweralTa
kavSiris misaRebTaTvis iqneboda gankuTvnili, daidgmeboda mweralTa kavSiris SesasvlelSi. wevrobis msurvelebi
Seyofdnen marjvena xels danadgaris xvrelSi, Tu mwerali iyo _ TiTebi SerCeboda,
Tu aramwerali _ wasxepda...
ise wavida am qveynidan
Zvirfasi gigla, ver aisrula
es ocneba.
kidev kargi, Torem ramdeni aramwerali da viTom mwerali dagvrCeboda TiTebis gareSe.
respublikuri partiis erT-eerTi lideris,
daviT berZeniSvilis TqmiT, rodesac aSS-ss
prezidentma barak obamam saqarTveloSi demokratiuli arCevnebis Catarebisa da Zalaufle bis formalurad gadacemis Sesaxeb
gancxadeba gaakeTa, TeTr saxlSi
myofma saqarTvels prezidentma mi xeil saakaSvilma, romelic manamde
Tavis amerikel kolegas kvers dinamikurad ukravda, Tavis qneva
Sewyvita.
rogorc berZeniSvilma “media niuss”
obamas
zemoxsenebuli
sityvebis komentirebisas ganucxa da, saakaSvilma SeerTebuli Sta tebis prezidentis gancxadenis aRniSnuli na wili miiRo imad, risi mosmenisac Zalian eSi noda. “saakaSvilma obamas aRniSnuli sityve bis mosmenisas, ramdenime wamis ganmavlobaSi
kveris dakvra Sewyvita. manamde Tavs dinami kurad aqnevda da es sityvebi rom moismina,
gaSeSda – es yvelaferi kadrebSi kargad
deg interviu eka beriZesTan
`maestroSi~, marTalia viRacviRacebma sinanuliT gadaiqnies Tavi, magram, Cemi azriT,
kargi iyo: gonieri, Wkuadamjdari, Rirseuli, marTali
adamiani
gvelaparakeboda.
vfiqrob, baton biZinas mosmena ufro uyvars, vidre saubari, rac mTavaria, kargad
msjelobs, kargi fsiqologicaa, adamianebis Secnoba ar
gauWirdeba, amitom, mgonia,
tyuilad vnerviulob mec da
sxva misi gulSematkivrebic.
imedia, yvelaferi kargad
iqneba!
nu dagvaviwydeba,
mcired arian rCeulni...
magram arian!
mwams, es Cemze ukeT, batonma biZinam icis.
Cans. rogorc Cans, es normaluri termini –
“Zalauflebis formaluri gadacema”, saakaS vilma miiRo imad, risic Zalian eSinoda. Za lauflebis formaluri gadacema demokratiu li arCevnebis meSveobiT, rogorc Cans saakaS vilma gaigo, rom unda daamTavros da wavi des~, - ganacxada berZeniSvilma da dasZina,
rom Tu saqarTveloSi samarTli ani da Tavisufali arCevnebi Ca tardeba, es, praqtikulad, avto matur reJimSi xelisuflebis
formalurad gadacemas niSnavs.
`saakaSvili amas kargad mixvda da
amitomac Secba~, - ganmarta man.
cnobisTvis: aSS-ss prezidenti
barak obama ganvlil wlebSi saqarTveloSi gaweul muSaobas afasebs, Tumca samarTlian da Tavisufal arCevnebs elis. `Zalauflebis formaluri gadacema, romelsac saqarTveloSi eqneba
adgili, ukve gatarebuli reformebis did nawils kidev ufro ganamtkicebs~, - citirebs
obamas sityvebs `TeTri saxlis~ oficialuri
vebgverdi.
`medianiusi~
9
10 saerTo gazeTi
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
ras apirebs `qarTuli
ocneba~ kontrolis palatis
sanqciebisgan dasacavad?
cota xnis win kontrolis
palatam
,,qqarTuli
ocneba~
TvalTmaqqcur garigebaSi daadanaSaula. mizezad S.p.s ,,elita
burjsa~ da ,,qqarTul ocnebas~
SorisLAMfuladi gadaricxvebis
dros moCvenebiTi TvalTmaqqcuri niSnebi daasaxela.
Tumca Tavad ,,qqarTuli ocneba” kontrolis palatis mier
wayenebul braldebes uaryofs
da uwyebis mier gavrcelebul
informaciaSi arsebul xarvezebsa da uflebamosilebis gadametebaze miuTiTebs.
Temis irgvliv ,,saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria sazogadoebrivi
moZraoba ,,qqarTuli
ocnebis~
advokati zaqaria qucnaSvili.
_ ,,qarTulma ocnebam~ 2012
wlis 25 ianvars saqarTvelos
kontrolis palatisgan werili
miiRo, romlis Tanaxmadac moiTxova sazogadoebiv moZraobas
mis sakurebaSi arsebul 1 100
000 larze nebayoflobiT eTqva
uari. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi,
imuqreboda aRniSnuli Tanxis
konfiskaciiTa da misi aTmagi
odenobiT gadaxdiT. cxadia, werilis miRebis Semdeg davinteresdiT, ramdenad samarTliani
iyo kontrolis palatis qmedeba
da aRmovaCineT, rom kontrolis
palata TvalTmaqcur garigebad
miiCnevs im SeTanxmebas, romelic
gaformebulia gasuli wlis dekembris TveSi. mogexsenebaT, ,,politikuri gaerTianebebis~ Sesaxeb kanonSi Setanili cvlilebebi kontrolis palatam 2012
wlis ianvridan aamoqmeda, amitom Cndeba kiTxva, ris safuZvelze moaqcies gasul wels dadebuli garigebebi axali wlis
Semdeg amoqmedebuli regulaciebis qveS.
_ kontrolis palatis mtkicebiT, es, ubralod, formaluri garigeba iyo. relurad, es
gadaricxva gakeTda imisTvis,
rom ,,qarTul ocnebaSi~ fuli
Cadebuliyo?
_ ,,qarTuli ocnebisTvis~ es
rom TvalTmaqcuri garigeba yofiliyo, 21 dekembris mdgomareobiT fuli xom maTTan iyo. amitom fulis S.p.s gadaricxviT ra
interesi unda hqonoda, sakuTar Tavs atyuebda? TvalTmaqcurad iTvleba garigeba, romelic
ideba mxareebs Soris realuri
garigebis dafarvis mizniT. am
SemTxvevaSi ki aranair dafarul
garigebas adgili ar hqonda.
kontrolis palata eZebs sababs, gamoiyenos kanoniT miniWebuli ufleba da moaxdinos
,,qarTuli ocnebis~ saxsrebis
kompensacia da qonebis dayadaReba. misi amocanaa ,,qarTuli ocneba~ raime saxis darRvevaze daiWiros, raTa moxdinos qonebis
dayadaReba. amitom imisTvis, rom
Tavidan aviciloT Cveni sakuTrebis ukanono CamorTmeva da
mkacri sanqciebi, iZulebuli
gavxdiT kontrolis palatis
moTxovna Segvesrulebina.
_,,qarTuli ocnebis~ uflebebis dasacavad Tu apirebT samarTlebriv brZolas?
_ kontrolis palatam ,,qarTuli ocneba~ gamoacxada ara
iuridiul pirad, aramed monitoringis subieqtad, romelsac
TiTqos gaaCnia politikuri miznebi da amocanebi. Tumca ,,qarTuli ocnebis~ wesdebaSi ver amoikiTxavT vercerT politikur
mizans, amitom gaugebaria, ris
safuZvelze miiCnia kontrolis
palatam sazogadoebrivi moZraoba monitoringis subieqtad.
_ Tumca kontrolis palatis mtkicebiT, ,,qarTul ocnebas~ politikuri miznebi gaaCnia?
_ xelisufleba xedavs, soliduri finansuri SesaZleblobebidan gamomdinare ,,qarTul
ocnebas~ seriozuli funqcionirebis SesaZlebloba gaaCnia, amitom yvelafers akeTeben imisTvis, rom moZraobas legaluri
funqcionirebis saSualeba mouspon.
_ samTviani sasamarTlo davis Semdeg biZina ivaniSvils saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba kvlav
ar gaaCnia, ra gegmebi gaqvT?
_ ekaterine xvedeliZesTan
dakavSirebiT 27 dekembris sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba moqalaqeobis aRdgenis Taobaze ZalaSi ukve Sevida. biZina ivaniSvils rac Seexeba, mogexsenebaT,
5 ianvars xelisuflebas naturalizaciis gziT moqalaqeobis
aRdgenasTan dakavSirebiT mivmarTeT. vada 14 Tebervals iwureba
da samoqalaqo reestrisgan biZina ivaniSvilisTvis moqalaqeobis
miniWebis Taobaze Sesabamis daskvnas velodebiT.
_ fiqrobT, rom xelisufleba ivaniSvilisTvis sasurvel gadawyvetilebas gamoitans?
_ ubralod, maT sxva gamosavali da gza aRar rCebaT. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi biZina ivaniSvili unda gamoacxadon saerTaSoriso Zebnilad an teroristad amis samarTlebrivi safuZveli, faqtobrivad, ar gaaCniaT.
_ rogor fiqrobT, ratom ar
gaasaCivra xelisuflebam sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba ekaterine xvedeliZis dauyovnebliv
moqalaqeobis aRdgenis Taobaze?
_ ramodenime mizezis gamo.
pirvel rigSi, xelisufleba Tu
am nabijs gadadgamda Zalian uxerxul situaciaSi aRmoCndeboda. Riad gamoacxadebda, rom sasamarTlo da aRmasrulebeli xelisufleba erTi da igive sistemaa.
miranda nabaxteveli
,,saerTo gazeTs~ koalicia
,,arCevnebis TavisuflebisT vis~ Tavmjdomare irakli
melaSvili esaubra.
_ ramdenime dRis win arasamTavrobo seqtoris warmomadgenlebi iuridiuli komitetis xelmZRvanels pavle
kublaSvils SexvdiT. ramde nad Sedegiani iyo Sexvedra da
zogadad, ras fiqrobT im kanonproeqtze, romelic sakanonmdeblo organom ,,moqalaqeTa politikur gaerTianebeb Tan~ dakavSirebiT miiRo?
_ iuridiuli komitetis
iniciativiT, kanonproeqtis
farglebSi msgavsi tipis Sexvedra ramdenjerme gvqonda.
pirveli Sexvedra sakmaod
xmauriani aRmoCnda, radgan
TiTqmis yvela arasamTavrobo
organizacia, vinc Sexvedras
eswreboda, gamoTqvamda ukmayofilebas kanonproeqtTan dakavSirebiT. Tumca kublaSvilis mtkicebiT, is safrTxeebi, rac arasamTavroboebma kanonproeqtSi davinaxeT, usafuZloa da kanoniT dawesebuli SezRudvebi Seexeba mxolod da mxolod politikur
partiebs da ara arasamTavrobo
organizaciebs.
Tumca
iuridiuli komitetis Tavmjdomaris
argumenti sustia,
radgan kanoni exeba yvelas da
is suleluri, absurduli
muxlebi, rac kanonproeqtSia
tias xvdeba moqalaqeTa partiebis dafinansebis Sesaxeb
moqmedi kanonis qveS. faqtobrivad, adamiani azris gamoxatvis TavisuflebisTvis isjeba, sanqciebi uwesdeba mxolod politikuri Sexedulebidan gamomdinare. gacilebiT
uaresi situaciaa fizikur pirebTan dakavSirebiT. piri,
romelsac qalbatoni naTia
mogelaZe CaTvlis partiasTan
dakavSirebul pirad, is eqceva ,,moqalaqeTa politikur
gaerTianebebTan~ dakavSirebiT
miiRebuli gadawyvetilebis
CarCoebSi. aqamde partiis mier miRebuli finansuri da materialuri Semowirulobebis
moculoba weliwadSi TiToeuli fizikuri pirisgan
30 000 larze meti,
iuridiuli piris SemTxvevaSi, 100 000 larze
meti ar unda yofiliyo.
kanonproeqtis SemuSavebamde
gadaricxvebi sabanko angariSiT unda
momxdariyo, Tumca
Tu piris mier
gadmocemuli Semowiruloba
3 0 0
teriumebi, romeliTac kontrolis palata daadgens aqvs
Tu ara ama Tu im pirs politikuri miznebi da amocanebi?
_ bunebaSi ar arsebobs kanoni, romliTac kontrolis
palata adgens piris interesebs, gaaCnia Tu ara politikuri ambiciebi amitom es kidev calke sakiTxia.
miRebul kanonSi gawerilia, rom politikur partiebs
ekrZalebaT kandidatis
warmomadgenlis, an sxva piris meSveobiT pirdapir an
arapirdapir saqarTvelos moqalaqisTvis fuladi saxsrebis, saCuqris da sxva saxis
matrialur an aramaterialur
faseulobaTa gadacema garda partiis kampaniis
farglebSi
mcire materialuri aqsesuarebisa _
maisurebi, kepebi, droSebi
da a.S.
ratom ar gaxda kontrolis palatis
interesis sagani S.p.s. saxelwodebiT
`nacionaluri moZraoba~
Cadebuli, ar SeiZleba amoqmeddes. samwuxarod,
Cveni
arc erTi SeniSvna iuridiul
komitets ar gauTvaliswinebia. amitom absoluturad yvela resurss gamoviyenebT kanonSi cvlilebebis Sesatanad.
_ konkretulad ras apro testebT kanonproeqtSi, ra
ar mogwonT?
_ Tavidan bolomde kanoni
im redaqciiT, rac miiRes, Sesacvlelia, radgan yvela mimarTulebiT gaugebaria. pirvel rigSi, daviwyoT imiT, Tu
iuridiuli piri mxardaWeras
gamoucxadebs romelime par-
lars ar aRemateboda SesaZlebeli iyo partias fuli
xelze mieRo.
axali regulaciis mixedviT ki dadginda, rom partiis
mier miRebuli finansuri da
materialuri Semowiruloba
weliwadSi TiToeuli moqalaqisgan ar unda aRematebodes
60 000 lars (iuridiul pirisgan dafinanseba aikrZala).
moqmedi regulaciiT, aseve sawevros wliuri odenoba ar
unda aRematebodes 12 00
lars partiis TiToeuli wevrisgan.
_ Tumca ar arsebobs kri-
absoluturad gaugebaria
is muxli, romelic partiebs
avaldebulebs sami dRis ganmavlobaSi gaarkvion, ramdenad
kanonierad gadmoiricxa partiul angariSze Tanxa. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi kontrolis palata kanonis damrRvevs
Tanxis aTmagi odenobiT daajarimebs. vTqvaT, Tu partiul
angariSze 60 lari gadamomiricxes, imis gasarkvevad, ramdenad samarTlianad moxda
Tanxis gadmoricxva, sammagi
Tanxa unda davxarjo, Sesabamisad, kanoni absurdulia da
mTlianad meqanizmia Sesacvleli. Tu am yvelafers kontrolis palata akontrolebs, minimum, gafrTxileba mainc unda momces, rom
Cems angariSebze darRvevaa
da gamosworebis saSualeba momces.
_ SezRudvebi, rac sakanonmdeblo organom iuridiul pirebTan dakavSirebiT miiRo cnobilia,
rom adgilobrivi da saer TaSoriso organizaciebis
rekomendaciebSi ar Sedioda. ratom miiRo parlamen tma erTpirovnuli gadawyvetileba?
_ bolo redaqcivebi,
rac kanonproqtSi ganxorcielda, veneciis komisi-
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as ar unaxavs. Cven kanonmdeblebs sakmaod kargi gamocdileba aqvT, gadaugzavnian raime
sqelgverdian kanonproets saerTaSoriso organizaciebs, miiReben maTgan rekomendaciebs,
Tumca, saboloo jamSi, akeTeben imas, rac xelisuflebas
awyobs.
_ veneciis komisias ar Se uZlia gaakontrolos mTavrobis qmedeba?
_ veneciis komisiis damcvelad ver gamovdgebi. Tumca veneciis komisias SeuZlia reagireba moaxdinos xelisuflebisgan oficialuri mimarTvis
Semdeg.
kanonproeqtSi absoluturad gaugebaria regulacia yadaRis dadebasTan dakavSirebiT. saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT sam uwyebas SeuZlia yadaRis dadeba, esaa: sasamarTlo, sagadasaxado da saaRmsruleblo biuro. anu samive
SemTxvevaSi arsebobda SesaZlebloba damecva Tavi da warmedgina Cemi argumentacia. moqmed kanonproeqtSi weria, rom
gasaCivrebis SemTxvevaSic ki
yadaRa qonebas ar exsneba. es
aris absoluturi absurduloba, radgan araa droSi gansazRvruli, ra vadis ganmavlobaSi
eqneba yadaRa politikur partiasTan dakavSirebul iuridiul pirs. SeiZleba partias,
romelsac 2012 wels vuWerdi
mxars da arsebuli kanonproeqtis mixedviT SezRudvebi, damiwesda igive sanqciebiT 2014
welsac visargeblo, aseve ar
arsebobs meqanizmi, ris safuZvelze unda moxdes yadaRis
moxsna, ra unda gavakeTo amisTvis.
_ axali kanonproeqti ramdenad Tanabar pirobebSi aye nebs saxelisuflebo da opoziciur partiebTan dakavSirebul iuridiul pirebs?
_ sainteresoa, ratom ar
gaxda kontrolis palatis interesis sagani S.p.s. saxelwodebiT ,,nacionaluri moZraoba~. medals yovelTvis ori
mxare aqvs, amitom medlis
orive mxare unda gamoviyenoT,
raTa xelisufleba vaiZuloT
Secvalos kanonproeqti.
_ yvelaferi, rasac kont rolis palata axorcielebs,
SeiZleba biZina ivaniSvilis
politikaSi gamoCenas ukavSir debodes?
_ cxadia, pirdapiri gziT
kavSiri aqvs ivaniSvilis politikaSi gamoCenasTan. Tumca
am kanoniTac darCenilia uamravi legaluri meqanizmi biZina ivaniSvilma dasaxul mizans
miaRwios.
_ ras apirebT kanonpoeqtis
Sesaclelad, ra gegmebi gaqvT?
_ vapirebT parlamentSi sakanonmdeblo iniciativis gagzavnas, saerTaSoriso oranizaciebis saqmis kursSi Cayenebas,
anu yvela im meqanizmis gamoyenebas, rac saerTaSoriso organizaciebs SeuZliaT arsebuli
kanonproeqtis Sesacvlelad.
miranda nabaxteveli
ras moelis sazogadoeba ivaniSvilisgan da
rogoria fsiqologis winasaarCevno prognozebi?
`saerTo gazeTs~ arCevnebis Temaze, lideris cnebaze,
xolo
mis kvaldakval, ivaniSvilis faqtorze, saakaSvilis reitingze da aseve sxva
saintereso garemoebebze fsiqologi ia axvlediani esaubreba:
_ am bolo dros lideris
cneba arapopularuli gaxda,
rigi politikosebi SeniSnaven,
sazogadoebriv procesebs winamZRoli ar sWirdeba da be ladomania bolos da bolos,
unda dasruldeso...
_ ara. lideri aucilebelia. raRac garkveuli jgufi
zogad socialur fsiqologiaSi, romelic garkveuli miznisken midis da organizebul
qmedebas ganaxorcielebs_ai, am
viTarebaSi yovelTvis saWiroebs liders.
Tu organizebul qmedebebzea saubari,Tu garkveuli mizani gaaCnia sazogadoebas,
riskenac miiswrafis- am dros
aucilebelia lideri.
xolo roca ar arsebobs, an
iqneb, Zalian bevrnic arian,
magram sazogadoebis garkveuli jgufebi ar ucxadeben ndobas am konkretul liderebs?es ukve sazogadoebis
problemaa, ramdenadac masSi
ar arsebobs ndobis faqtori
konkretuli pirebis mimarT.
anu, am SemTxvevaSi saxeze
gvaqvs lideris deficiti .
qarTul sazogadoebaSi yovelTvis aris maqsimalisturi
ganwyobebi. Tu gamoCndeba lideri, sazogadoeba cdilobs,
rom procesebi mTlianad gadaabaros am liders, sruli pasuxismgebloba daakisros da
TviTon Soridan uyuros, roca
ar marTldeba es e.w. ndoba, me-
re ukve ukureaqcias viRebT.
yvelaze ukeTes SemTxvevaSi,
xalxi am arCeuli piris gadayenebas iTxovs, ufro xSirad
ki, process mohyveba samoqalaqo omi, mudmivi dapirispireba.
ase rom, Tavad sazogadoebas
unda hqondes lideris mimarT
saRi midgomebi.
_ Tumca biZina ivaniSvilis
gamoCenamde musirebda azri,
rom opozicia sustia da pro cesebis warmarTvis unari sabolood waerTva, ramdenad
hqonda am garemoebas fsiqolo giuri axsna?
_
opozicia
sustiao iTqva, gamomdinare iqedan,
rom maTac araswori nabijebi hqondaT. maqsimums isaxavdnen miznad, sazogadoeba Sepirebis
aRsrulebis
molodinSi
iyo,
bunebrivia, opozicia amis Semsrulebeli ver iyo da
ar iyo (SesaZloa,
keTili nebis gamo,
rom sazogadoebaSi
dapirispireba ar
momxdariyo, uazro
konfliqti ar warmoqmniliyo...) xalxsac adre arsebuli ganwyobebi ukve Seecvala, ndobis momenti aRar darCa. axla Tvlian, rom sustia,
raxan opoziciam ver moaxerxa
garkveuli dapirebebis Sesruleba: magaliTad, gadaegdoT prezidenti... moexdinaT gadatrialeba. aman gamoiwvia ukureaqcia
da undobloba.
_ klasikuri azi uri mowyobis qveyana
varT?
_ evropaSi didi
xania Cvengan gansxvavebiT Tavisufal garemoSi cxovroben.
Tanac saqarTveloSi ar arsebobs alternatiuli politikuri jgufi, romelsac sazogadoeba CaTvlida Rirsad da waimZRolebda. ar aris ndoba, im
xarisxiT, ra xarisxiTac unda
iyos.
politikuri speqtri sakmaod Wreli, mravalricxovani
gaxlavT, imaze metia, vidre
Cven sazogadoebas sWirdeba.
demokratiuli procesebis ganviTarebisaTvis raodenoba au-
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.net
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z
ze
cilebelia, Tumca arc aseTi
siWarbe wagvadgeba. imedi maqvs,
garkveuli wlebis ganmavlobaSi (amas didi xani ar dasWirdeba,) Camoyalibdeba da gamoikveTeba jgufebi, romlebic
politikaSi seriozul Zalas
Seqmnian. am jgufebSi gadanawildeba sazogadoeba, anu, Tavad gaakeTeben arCevans: vis unda gahyvnen? ratom miyvebian?
da a.S. ase rom, procesi nelnela daiwmindeba.
_ biZina ivaniSvili arc
ise didi xania rac gamoCnda
asparezze, Tumca rogorc gamokiTxvebidan Cans, sakmaod maRali reitingi moipova, rogorc fsiqologi, rogor SeafasebT ivaniSvilis faqtors?
_ am pirovnebis Sefaseba
ramdenadme rTulia. pirvel
rigSi, Cven mas ar vicnobT.
isic mikvirs, sazogadoebam maRali reitingi ratom mianiWa?
konkretulad im pirovnebis
sawinaaRmdego araferi maqvs,
ubralod, mikvirs, rom xmamaRal ganacxads ar akeTebs: rogor warmoudgenia saqarTveloSi sazogadoebis formireba, ra unda xdebodes? rogor?
sakuTari programa Tu gaaCnia?am viTarebebis irgvliv
esaubra da Sedegad hqonoda
sazogadoebaSi maRali reitingi- gasagebi iqneboda. ramdenadac vici,kiTxvebi upasuxod
gvrCeba. esec sazogadoebis
arajansaR damokidebulebaze
metyvelebs: ndobas ucxadebs
liders, romlisganac ar aqvs
pasuxi, Tu ras apirebs, ras
fiqrobs, rogor da ragvarad
warmoudgenia. xolo SemdgomSi ukve imedgacrueba, Tanac
ase vTqvaT, metad masStaburia
mosalodneli.
Tu CaveZiebiT da Rrmad davinteresdebiT, mainc da mainc,
ra axsna aqvs mecenatis aseT
upirobo mxardaWeras... mivdivar garemoebamde, rom sazogadoeba inertulia. elodeba mesias, romelic mova da mis magivrad gadawyvets yvelafers.
mis magivrad ifiqrebs, mis magivrad imoqmedebs... kargi moxdeba? xom Zalian kargia. Tuki
cudi moxdeba, gadabraldeba
isev im konkretul adamians.
ra sakvirvelia, Cven SemTxvevaSi ivaniSvilis faqtorma
mxolod da mxolod warmateba
unda moutanos misi blokis
wevrebs. cxadia, droTa ganmavlobaSi politikuri sistema
CvenTanac daiwmindeba da SesaZloa, amerikis msgavsad, mxolod ori partia gaxdes dominanturi. win da win sxva
prognozebis gakeTeba Znelia.
_ ramdenad mosalodnelia arCev nebis paralelu rad, an iqneb, ar Cevnebis
Semdeg
xmebis dasacavad,
saxalxo mRelvare ba, aqcia-ggamosvlebi?
_ ara mgonia.
es naklebad mosalodnelia, imisda miuxedavad, gamarjveba arCevnebSi
romel flangze iqneba. rasac dRes
vxedav, xelisuflebis nabijebi bevrad gonivrulad
aris dagegmili, vidre opoziciis.
SesaZloa, misTvis ufro
advilia, radgan administraciuli resursebi gaaCnia. magram
roca saubaria am fiar-teqnologiebze konretuli saqmec
xom
Cans? xolo opozicia
jerjerobiT sazogadoebas konkretul qmedebebs ar sTavazobs. SesaZloa, raRac gegma
aqvs da raRacas elodeba.
imedi maqvs, opozicia caitnotSi ar aRmoCndeba da saarCevno kampanias droulad Seudgeba. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, misi gamarjvebis prognozireba, faqtobrivad, SeuZlebelia
naTia xuciSvili
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qarTuli satiagraha
qarTuli satiagraha
vaxtang
xarCilava
qarTvelTa mahaTma
gandi _ ilia WavWavaZe
_ 1907 wels mokles qarTvelebma.
indoelTa ilia WavWavaZe _ mohandas karamCand porbandari _ igive mahaTma gandi _ 1948
wels tyviiT gangmires
indoelebma.
_ ena, mamuli, sarwmunoeba, _ gviTxra Cvenma `mahaTmam~ diadma
sulma (mahaTma _ diad
suls niSnavs) iliam.
_ satiagraha! satiagraha! _ mouwoda mohandas karamCandam indoelebs.
satiagraha _ Seupovroba WeSmaritebaSi, winaaRmdegoba araZaladobrivi gziT _ ase
iTargmneba es sityva
qarTulad.
_ ar iTanamSromloT inglisel kolonizatorebTan, ar iyidoT ucxouri produqcia, uari
TqviT kolonizatorebis mier SemoTavazebul privilegiebze, ar
CadgeT maT samsaxurSi, ar miiRoT maT mier nawyalobevi jildoebi da titulebi, Tu gindaT,
rom indoeTi damoukidebeli da
Tavisufali saxelmwifo iyos _
afrTxilebda mahaTma indoelebs
da piradi cxovrebiT aZlevda Tanamemamuleebs Seupovrobis, stoicizmis Seurigeblobis magaliTebs.
_ ara iaraRiT, ara Zaladobrivi gziT, aramed mxolod mSvidobian winaaRmdegobas aqvs azri,
mxolod aseTi winaaRmdegoba
moitans sasurvel Sedegs. amgvari brZola maRal sulierebas, zneobrivi da moraluri normebis erTgulebas, keTilSobilebas, Semwynareblobas moiTxovs Cvengan. es brZola, pirvel yovlisa, brZolaa
sakuTar mankierebasTan, brZola imisTvis, rom ukeTesi gavxdeT. ingliselebi ki ar arian cudebi, Cven ar varT kargebi. gavxdeT ufro kargebi
da Cven movigebT am oms, _ arwmunebda mahaTma indoelebs.
mTeli indoeTi antiimperialisturma sulikveTebam
moicva. erovnuli kongresi
gandis ideologiis mTavar centrad iqca. mTeli eri, Raribic da
mdidaric, satiagrahas droSis
qveS gaerTianda da kolonizatorebi aiZula daTmobebze wasuliyvnen.
qarTuli satiagraha
jer ar Seqmnila. Cveni
sazogadoeba ar misula
im daskvnamde, rom WeSmaritebisTvis Seupovari brZolis gareSe gamarjveba SeuZlebelia.
Cven Tanaxa varT viyoT cudebi, oRond kargad vicxovroT.
Cven Tanaxma varT viyoT morCilni, oRond maZRrad viyoT.
Cven Tanaxma varT eSmaksac ki
SevekraT, oRond bednieri da uzrunveli arsebobis garantia miviRoT.
miuxedavad amisa, saqme mainc
Zalian cudad aris, magram vera
da ver gagvigia, ratom gvaqvs
saqme cudad, roca yvelaferze
Tanaxma varT?
am kiTxvaze pasuxi martivia:
roca yvelaferze Tanaxma xar, ar
SeiZleba iyo kargad, radgan yvelaferze Tanxmoba damcirebaze,
dabeCavebaze, damonebaze Tanxmobasac niSnavs.
qarTuli satiagraha jer ar
Seqmnila...
* * *
1883 wels ilia WavWavaZe `iveriisTvis~ wers werils `Sinauri mimoxilva~, romelic cenzuram akrZala da misi gamoqveyneba
mxolod saTanado Sesworebebis
Semdeg gaxda SesaZlebeli.
am as oci wlis winaT gamoqveynebul mimoxilvaSi aris fragmentebi, romelic TiTqos dRevandel dRezea dawerili:
`maSin rom qarTvelisTvis gekiTxaT, ras
fiqrobT, ra gsurTo,
sicocxlezed vfiqrobT, sicocxle gvindao,
gipasuxebdnen. _ magis
garda kidevo? kidev sicocxle gvindao, getyodnen. _ ras eZaxiT sicocxles, rogor Tu sicoxleo? _ iseo, getyodnen, rom gavla-gamovla SegveZlos, sunTqvao, ciT da mTvariT
datkboba, mzis cqerao
da Cveni Wiis gaxarebao.
... erTis sityviT, xalxs da ers mxolod
xorcielis cxovrebis
natvra hqonda, mxolod
imaze hfiqrobda, rom
unda gavfrTxilde, Torem suls rom aRara vCivi, xorciTac ar daviRupoo.
aba, am-gvars dros
sad da vis mohkiTxavdi
azrs, gonebas, Tavganwirulobas erisaTvis, sa-
ise, mainc cudi ar aris, cocxali rom xar da suli rom gidgas, oRond erTi pirobiT: radgan
cocxali xar, imaze unda dafiqrde da rogorme unda mixvde, ratom aRmoCndi am situaciaSi, ra
dagemarTa, ra mewyerma gadagiara.
mdgmareoba, romelSic dRes
vimyofebiT, erTbaSad da uecrad
ar Semnila _ mas mizanmimarTulad, Tanmimdevrulad, gegmazomierad qmnidnen qveynis uxilavi Tu
xiluli dampyroblebi, qmnidnen
Cveni umecrebis, Cveni komformizmis, Cveni Semrigeblobis wyalobiT, Cvenive TanamonawileobiT,
Cveni dasturiT da TanxmobiT.
es yulfi, yelze rom gviWers
da nel-nela gvaxrCobs, Cvens mier aris saguldagulod ganaskvili, oRond Cven amis Sesaxeb araferi viciT.
qveyno saqmisaTvis. aki
arc araferi SeiniSneboda am-gvari. qveyana
mxolod luarsab TaTqariZeebiT aivso~.
dResac luarsab TaTqariZeebiTaa savse es qveyana, TaTqariZeebiT da TaTqariZeobaze meocnebe
damwyebi TaTqariZeebiT.
dResac mxolod xorcis gadarCenaze fiqrobs qarTveli kaci. ra gindao, rom hkiTxo, axlac igives gipasuxebs, rasac
ilias dros ambobda: _ sicocxle
minda, sicocxleze vfiqrobo,
magram ras eZaxis sicocxles,
risTvis sWirdeba sicocxle da
ras unda moaxmaros igi, arc maSin icoda da arc axla icis xeirianad.
magram es ar aris misi brali
_ arCevanis winaSe daayenes _ an
sicocxle, an sikvdili, an gadarCena, an daRupva _ aseTi alternativis winaSe dgas igi dRes da
sulac ar aris gasakviri, am ori
arCevanidan sicocxles Tu irCevs.
es ar aris dasaZraxi da gasakili, Tumca sicocxle, romelsac is ase ebRauWeba, didad ar
sjobs sikvdils, is ki ara, kargad rom davukvirde, sikvdilze
cota uaresic kia, magram asea Tu
da Tavisufali gavxadoT _ moZRvravda `diadi suli~ indoelebs
da sayovelTao daumorCileblobisken, sayovelTao Seurigeblobisken mouwodebda Tavis ers:
_ ar gadaixadoT gadasaxadebi,
ar iTanamSromloT kolonizatorebTan, ar SexvideT maT samsaxurSi, ar CaicvaT maTi tansacmeli, ar iyidoT maT mier Semotanili produqcia.
_ ra paralelebia es, ra Sedarebaa? sad mahaTma gandi da sad
dRevandeli saqarTvelo? indoeTi
maSin inglisis kolonia iyo, Cven
ki damoukidebeli da Tavisufali
saxelmwifo varT! _ Semomedaveba,
albaT, romelime oponenti.
_ damoukideblobis da Tavisuflebis gamocxadebis Semdeg
Cven yoveldRe vkargavT damoukideblobas da Tavisuflebis xarisxs. dapyrobis neli, xaverdovani procesi, droSi gawelili
da gawerili, ukve damamTavrebel
fazaSi Sevida da dRes arc eridebaT, ise gviyidian da gvisxviseben qveyanas, fexqveS Telaven
Cvens Rirsebas, adaTs, cnobierebas, erovnul faseulobebs.
amis Sesaxeb uamravjer Tqmula, uamravjer dawerila da dasamtkicebeli da dasadgeni aq arc
araferia.
* * *
_ Cven ubedurebi imitom ki
ar varT, rom ingliselebi arian
cudebi, ingliselebi kargebi arian, magram Cven ar varT iseTi kargebi, rom Cveni qveyana bednieri
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indoelTa kolonizatori Tu inglisi
iyo, Cveni kolonizatori globalizmia,
Tavisi
umZlavresi
finansuri manqaniT,
savaluto
fondiT,
msoflio bankiT, aTasi juris fondebiT
da organizaciebiT,
saidumlo mTavrobebiT, bankebiT, sainformacio saSualebebiT.
amaT SemosevasTan
SedarebiT Temur lengis, murvan yrus Tu
Sah-abasis Semosevebi
borot xulignobas
hgavs.
eseni Zirianfesvianad amoTxras da amoZirkvas gvipireben da
Tanac ise, rom madlobebi iqiT vuxadoT.
eseni saqarTvelodan gasaxlebas gvipireben, Tanac ise, rom
iqiT vexvewebodeT: _
oRond gagviSviT, gaqcevis saSualeba mogveciT, suli gagvatanineT aqedan da jandabas, es Cveni samSoblo Tqveni feSqaSi
iyos.
amaTi daangariSebiT, saqarTvelosTvis sruliad sakmarisia milionnaxevari adamiani,
aqedan 600 aTasi qarTveli SeiZleba iyos. danarCeni sxva
eTnikuri jgufebis warmomadgenlebi iqnebian.
aseTi ariTmetika Cingiz
xansac ki ar mosvlia TavSi,
eseni ki am ariTmetikiT xelmZRvaneloben da amis mixedviT
adgenen proeqtebs, gegmebs, anawileben finansebs da a.S.
am dros ki, Cveni egreTwodebuli politikosebi, imis
nacvlad, rom erTad Sekran
eri da Tavs damtydari ubedurebis mTavari mizezi, mTavari
mteri daanaxon, yofen, xleCen
sazogadoebas da jguf-jgufad
daarbenineben aRma-daRma.
erTi alTas rom aris, meore balTasaa, mesame parlamentTan yuryutebs, meoTxe kance-
lariasTan, mexuTe ki globalistTa mTavar banakSi `danoss~ agzavnis danarCenebze da
Stabs Tavis samsaxurs, ymobas
da erTgulebas hpirdeba.
qarTvelebi karga
xania TviTon iqcnen
sakuTari qveynis dampyroblebad
ufro
zustad maTi qveynis
dampyrobelTa sadamsjelo-saegzekucio
armiad.
dapyrobao, rom vambob, ra
Tqma unda, ekonomikuri berketebis saSualebiT dapyrobas,
ekonomikur aneqsias vgulisxmob, magram dapyroba dapyrobaa
_ gind xmliT daupyrixar viRacas da gind mSvidobiani meTodebiT daulaSqrixar, gana
sulerTi ar aris?
is ki ara, xmliTmosuli
mteri nakleb saSiSia, radgan
icis, rom es xmliT movardnili kaci mteria da mters
mtrobiTve upasuxeb, magram ra
unda qna, roca viRac Tbili
RimiliT,
oqro-vercxliT
xeldamSvenebuli, tkbilad moubari, keTilganwyobili tipi
saxlSi Cagisaxldeba da garCeva giWirs, megobaria Seni Tu
mzakvari mteri.
aki gvafrTxilebda didi
ilia, _ Tof-iaraRiT mosuli
mtris ki nu geSinia, codniT,
ganaTlebiT, xerxiT mosuli
mtris geSinodeTo.
mosulia es mteri ukve da,
mgoni, Cveni dapyrobis da aneqsiis saqmec moTavebuli aqvs,
ise rom Cven amis Sesaxeb baiburSi ara varT.
* * *
ucnauri xalxi vyofilvarT qarTvelebi _ uReli
gvyvarebia, nametnavad! miT umetes, Tu es uReli oqroTia
movarayebuli iseTi sixaru-
liT SevuSverT xolme kisers,
iseTi JriamuliT da Jivil-xiviliT gavinaskvavT apurebs,
TiTqos uRels ki ara dafnis
gvirgvins vidgamdeT.
qarTuli satiagrahao, dagviCemebia: ra satiagraha, ris
satiagraha, yoveli meore Tu
ara, mesame qarTveli mainc Tanaxmaa siamovnebiT Seebas samSoblos mosaoxrebel urems,
qedze daidgas oqros uReli,
kofoze ki joni Tu jeki da-
askupos aseve oqroTi movarayebuli saxriT.
Cvens zurgs xvdeba es saxre, magram, rac, mTavaria, saxre oqrosia da uRelic oqrosi...
monoba advilze advili
saqmea, Tavisuflebaa Zneli,
radgan Tavisufleba pasuxismgeblobaa, monobis dros ki pasuxismgebloba
batonisTvis
gaqvs gadabarebuli.
magram ar SeiZleba ers eri
erqvas, Tu misi mTavari mizani
maZRari monobaa mxolod.
arada, aqeTken gvikakuneben
Cveni keTilismyofelebi, am
azrs gvaCveven, rom Tu monobaze davTanxmdebiT, maZRrebi
viqnebiT.
poeti ki saukuneTa siRrmeebidan gvafrTxilebs: `sjobs
monobaSi gadidkacebuls, Tavisuflebis ZebnaSi mkvdari~.
monobaSi gamZRars da qoniT damZimebulsac Tavisuflebis ZebnaSi mkvdari sjobs, ra
Tqma unda, magram iliasi ar
iyos `sicocxlec rom gvinda?
kidev
ra
gindao,
rom
gvkiTxon, kidev sicocxle
gvinda~.
Tavisuflebac gvinda, rogor ara, Zalianac gvinda, magram
Tav i s u f l e b i s T v i s
Tavis gawirva da Tavis Sewuxeba gvezareba, Tumca qviTqviTi
da viSviSi ki gviyvars: _ gveSveleba ki
raimeo?
erTxel vTqvi da
kidev gavimeoreb: _
ki, magram ratom unda
gveSvelos? ras vakeTebT imisTvis, rom
gveSvelos? _ tvinis
ganZreva gvezareba,
xelis ganZreva gvezareba, Tavis Sewuxeba
gvezareba da mainc unda gveSvelos?
ki, magram ratom? ra damsaxurebisTvis?
rogorc Cans, didi xania
gvswavloben da kargad ician,
rogor unda mogvatyuon, riT
unda `agvagdon~ da `dagvabolon~. etyoba, Cvens tvinSi is
ujredi, romliTac mtyuanmarTlis, Wkvianis da uWkuos
erTmaneTisgan garCeva xdeba,
arasworad aris CamontaJebuli...
akaki wereTels, romelic
mSobliur imereTSi arCevnebSi
iRebda monawileobas, viRac
social-demokratma xmebis didi umetesobiT ajoba.
im social-demokratis vinaoba aravis axsovs dRes ise,
rogorc cota xanSi aravis
emaxsovreba im parlamentarTa
didi nawilis gvar-saxeli,
romelic guSin Tu guSinwin
avirCieT qveynis bedis ganmsazRvrelad da mimarTulebis
mimcemad.
qarTveli amomrCeveli `stavkas~, rogorc wesi, avantiurizmze akeTebs, mere ki ukvirs, ratom arian ase mravlad
xelisuflebaSi avantiuristebi.
ilia WavWavaZes rom eyara
kenWi 2004 wlis saparlamento arCevnebSi, darwmunebuli
var, romelime Tineijeri `nacionali~ an `Tavisuflebis
institutis~ romelime aqtivisti dajabnida.
yovelive mis Semdeg, ratom
gvikvirs is, rac gvWirs?
* * *
sazogadoebas, gansakuTrebiT mis im nawils, romelsac
inteligencia hqvia Caagones,
rom politika misi saqme ar
aris, rom politikaSi Careva
karg tonad ar iTvleba.
_ me politikaSi ar verevi, _ ise Tavmomwoned ityvis
mavani, TiTqos raRac saamayo
saqciels Cadiodes.
arada, es fraza _ me poli-
ar vambob, yvela mxatvari
da musikosi, yvela poeti da
msaxiobi, yvela reJisori da
beletristi
profesionali
politikosi gaxdes da politikur organizaciebSi gaerTiandes-meTqi.
ara, amis Tqma namdvilad ar
minda. mec imasve vimeoreb, rac
ocdaeqvsi wlis axalgazrda
kacma anderZad dagvitova:
`arc kaci varga, rom cocxali
mkvdarsa emsgavsos, iyos sofelSi da soflisTvis ara izrunos~. sofelze zrunva ki am
soflis satkivarze ganuwyvetel fiqrsa da gamosavlis ZiebaSi unda gamoixatos.
mTeli qarTuli mwerloba,
dasabamidan dRemde, uaRresad
politizirebuli da amasTan
erTad didaqtikur-aRmzrdelobiTi xasiaTisaa.
es ar momxdara SemTxveviT
_ mudmivi gansacdelisa da
mudmivi sacduris winaSe mdgari qveynis mwerlobas moraluri ufleba ar hqonda sxvanairi yofiliyo.
arc is aris SemTxvevTi,
rom globalistebis idelogurma desantebma mTeli simkacriT Seuties inteligencias, rogorc yvelaze saxifaTo
oponents, romelmac SeiZleba
gamxilos, gagSifros, Sors
mimavali zraxvebi saaSkaraoze
gamoigifinos.
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tikaSi ar verevi _ Cveulebriv
enaze ase iTargmneba _ sul
fexebze mkidia ra xdeba Cems
qveynaSi, ra uWirs da ra ulxins Cems xalxs, Cems samSoblos,
sakuTari Tavis garda
araferi mainteresebs da SemeSviTo.
_ politikaSi nu gamrevT,
Tqveni Wirimeo, _ amas winaT
xelebi gaasavsava erTma reJisorma erT teleSouSi.
ese igi, ra gamodis, erTma
mxolod speqtaklebi dadgas,
meorem mxolod leqsebi weros, mesamem _ romanebi, meoTxem _ xatos, mexuTem _ musika Seqnas. meeqvsem ekonomisti varo da mxolod iTvalos?
ai, es ais is situacia, romelic egreTwodebul politikosebs xels aZlevT da komfortul mdgomareobas uqmniT.
politika aris yvelgan da
yvelaferSi _ leqsSic da
ferwerul tiloSic, musikaSic da Teatris scenazec, quCaSic da saxlSic, roca gonieri, ganaTlebuli adamianebi
uars acxadeben qveynis politikur cxovrebaSi aqtiuri
monawileobis miRebaze, amiT
isini gzas uxsnian umecrebas,
avantiurizms, agresiul diletantizms da asparezs arakeTilsindisier adamianebs uTmoben.
politika binZuri
saqmeao, _ gvarwmuneben zogierTebi, Tumca TviTon didi siamovnebiT da aRtyinebiT miZvrebian am sibinZureSi.
sarfiani, komerciulad momgebiani sibinZurea es sibinZure
maTTvis.
politika zneobrivad maRali, kristalurad sufTa adamianebis
saqmeao,_
gvarwmunebs vaclav
haveli.
igives gaswavlis
mahaTma gandic.
sanam qarTveli amomrCeveli
mahaTma
gandis da vaclav havels ar daujerebs,
manamde misi arCevani
yovelTvis mcdari iqneba da bumerangiviT
daubrundeba ukan _
daubrundeba cixed,
rozgad,
panRurad,
sulSi CafurTxebad,
siRataked, dabeCavebad.
Cveni xelisufleba
ki ar aris cudi, Cven
ara varT kargebi...
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nebismieri eris arseboba mTavrdeba maSin, roca igi sakuTar
istorias iviwyebs! _
ambobda wm. ilia marTali. arada, Cven,
dRevandel
qarTvelebs, araTu wina saukuneebis istoria, aramed sul raRac 8-9
wlis winandeli istoriebi gvaviwydeba
da Cvenive gulmaviwyobis gamo aseulobiT naZiralas kvlavac
vaZlevT saSualebas _
Wkua
dagvarigos,
cxovrebis wesi gvikarnaxos,
mogvatyuos, TvalebSi nacartuti gvayaros, xilulad gagvacucurakos, Tavisi savledanpavled gardaqmnis saswaulSi
dagvarwmunos da bolos, isic
ki gagvibedos, rom qveynis sakanonmdeblo organoSi, muStebis braxuniT gvikarnaxos _ viyoT Tu ar viyoT qarTvelebi.
Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! me, Jurnalist irine gogosaSvils
Zalian bevri adamiani `avyias~,
`xepres~ da jiut `kaxel virs~
meZaxis, magram arian adamianebi,
romlebic sruliad sapirispiro epiTetebiT mamkoben, vuyvarvar, magram imavdroulad
imasac meubnebian, rom lavirebis unari ar gamaCnia da swored amitomacaa, rom xSirad
umciresobaSi vxvdebi sakuTari
principulobis gamo.
TavSi qva uxlia maT, vinc
`kaxel virs~ meZaxis, magram,
aba, miTxariT, rogor ar gavixseno is ubeduri dRe, roca
nac. moZraobis erT-erTma fuZemdebelma, erT-erTma agitatorma Cems sayvarel guriko
SaraZes parlamentis sxdomaTa
darbazSi duJmoreulma dauRriala:
`ra gaatrakeT saqme Tqveni qarTvelobiT, bolo-bolo ra
iseTi eri Tqven xarT,
pasportSic rom unda
geweroTo?~
kargi mexsierebis qarTvelebs albaT, nel-nela ukve
gaxsendebaT am sityvebis avtori, magram ufro ukeTesi mexsi-
erebis adamianebs, albaT, gaaxsendaT is, vinc es Tqva da
emaxsovrebaT isic, ymawvilma
`nacma~ SaraZisken xelic rom
moiqnia maSin gasartymelad!
gava wlebi da SaraZes, patriot kacs, ara marto erTi,
aramed mravali, `nacisgan~ 3jer nasroli tyvia moxvdeba
TavSi, dRisiT-mzisiT, Suagul
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
TbilisSi da viTomc araferi...
`evrokavSiris moTxovnaa,
erovnebis rekvizitis gauqmeba~,
_ fexebis bakuniT gvikiodnen
`respublikelebi~, `nac.moZraoba~, `burjanaZe- demokratebi~,
`memarjveneebi~, pativcemuli
maJoritari gvamebi, mTeli saxelmwifo aparati da aki, miaRwies sawadels?!
dRes rom Suaze gadaskde,
Sens identurobas winaprebTan
verafriT daadastureb da Tuki
gkiTxaven, ra erovnebis xaro?
amayad unda upasuxo _ saqarTvelos moqalaqe var da erovnebaze miniSneba ki evropis gzaze
Semdgar saqarTveloSi qajoba,
goimoba da provincializmiao...
Cven, rom eri viyoT da
`geyofaT gulaoba `aRorZinebas~, an Cven, an Tqven
da sabednierod, dRes, umciresobaSi Tqven xarT,
gamigeT?~ `kagebeSnikebi~
Tqvensken moikiTxeT, Tqve
somxebo, Sen is biWi ar
xar, babuaSenis saflavis
qva erT RameSi rom Secvale, emand, vinmem ar gaigos winapari ra eris
myavdao?~ _ `me meubnebi?~ _ daiZra axalgazrda iuristi `cilismwameblisken~ da xelic moeqnia gasartymela.
hoda, radgan Zalian
sainteresoa da Zalian sasargebloc (tvinis gasavarjiSeblad) modi, pirdapir
davwer _ es adamianebi
nac.moZraobis, Tavisuflebis institutis mier
aw. daxvretili akademikosi guram SaraZe da
dRevandeli milioneri
e.w. `xalxis partiis~
viTom lideri _ koba
daviTaSvili iyvnen, xolo maTi davis sagani
kobas mier parlamentSi
Tavmomwoned Setanili
kanonproeqti gaxldaT,
romelic Cveni erovnulobis grafis gauqmebas
exeboda!!!
maxsovs, maSindeli
parlamentis Tavmjdomare nina anzorovna gakapasebuli xmiT
rom gahkioda: `piradad Cemi, rogorc parlamentis Tavmjdomaris prestiJia am civilizebuli kanonis damtkicebao~, magram Semdeg ninasac daajda
suliwminda `priCoskaze~ da dRes igi ukve
wminda ninosaviT gviqadagebs `Cveni erovnuloba~, `Cveni winaprebi~, `Cveni istoria~,
`Cveni gmiruli warsuli~-o da a.S.
`ra gaatrakeT saqme Tqveni
qarTvelobiT, bolo-bolo
ra iseTi eri Tqven xarT,
pasportSic rom unda geweroT?~
iotisodena Tavmoyvareoba, anda
mexsiereba gvqondes, gana unda
gvaviwydebodes, rom gveli tyavis gamocvlis Semdegac gvelia
da igesleba?
modiT, isev `erovnebis rekvizits~ da maSindeli parla-
mentis sxdomaTa darbazs davubrundeT, saidanac pirdapiri
saeTero CarTvebi xorcieldeboda. `an es kanoni gava, an arada Cven davbrundebiT junglebSi~, _ wamoiZaxebs erTi gvami...
kanonproeqtis
parlamentSi
Semtani tansruli ymawvili ki
mikrofoniT imuqreba: `damTavrda Seni dro, Se `kagebeSniko~,
ase iyo es da nuravin SemomedavebiT! faqtebi parlamentis
arqivSi stenogramul CanawerebSic daculia, televiziebSic cifrul diskebzea dafiqsirebuli da im adamianebsac
kargad axsovT, vinc nac. moZraobas jer ar daupatimrebia, ar
dauxvretia da samSoblodan ar
gauZevebia! nurc imaSi Semomedaveba vinme, rom
kobas coli inga biwaZe dRemde parlamentSi muSaobs gigi wereTlis TanaSemwed
da misi da misi meuRlis opozicioneroba
iseTive blefia, rogori blefic `respublikelebis~ `mamuliSviloba~ da saqarTvelos ukeTesi momavlisTvis maTi muxlCauxreli Sroma!!!
sxvaTaSoris, erovnebis rekvizitis gauqmebas, maSindel
parlamentSi mxolod `aRorZinebis kavSirma~ da masSi Semavalma koaliciurma partiam
`tradicionalistebma~ da `leiboristebma~ ar dauWires mxari, xolo danarCenebma, emand,
goimebi ar dagviZaxon evropa _
amerikelebmao, sul taSis grialSi gamoutanes ganaCeni sakuTar warsuls!
mokled, bevri rom ar gavagrZelo, es is xalxia, vinc guSinac iyvnen, dResac arian da
xvalac iqnebian vidre ukunisamde, magram, modiT, isev guram SaraZis da `xalxis kobas~
istorias mivubrundeT da isic
gavixsenoT, `nac.moZraobam~ Tavis erT-erT kokor-vard biWunas, gldanSi arCevnebiT rogor
gauxara guli da maSin gurikom
ra Tqva...
yvelam icis, rom gldanelebma xmebis umravlesobiT
mxari SaraZes dauWires, magram
fokuznikma, aferistma miSam
gamarjvebulad daviTaSvili gamoacxada da ai, maSin iyo, guramma rom ifeTqa: `diax, dRes
saqarTvelos marTavs somxuri
lobi, saqarTvelos parlamentSi bevri gvargadakeTebuli somexia, isini gvkarnaxoben Cven
Cveni qveynisTvis damRupvel kanonebs, isini gvaxveven Tavs
aTasobiT Turqi-mesxis Camosaxlebas, isini gvingreven qarTul
eklesiebs da qarTul cnobierebas. dRes erTma somexma biWma, visac wesierad arcki icnobda gldaneli amomrCeveli, gayalbebuli arCevnebiT `mougo~
qarTvels! am biWma erT RameSi
gamocvala qarTlis erT sofelSi babuamisis saflavis qva
da daviTaSvili daawera, magram
es bevrs arafers niSnavs... daaviwyda, rom dedamisic somexia
_ janezova _janezaSvilia gvarad, mova dro da yvela yvelafers Seityobs, yvelas da yvelafers aexdeba farda, magram
meSinia, Zalian gviani ar iyos
da Cemi samSoblo ukve ufskrulSi ar iyos gadaCexili!!! _
Tqva man CemTan interviuSi.
eh, Cemo guriko, Cemo kargo
megobaro, patrioto da samSoblos siyvarulisTvis sisxldanTxeulo kaco.
Sen rom gldanSi biWma `dagamarcxa~, dRes ukve milioneria, Sen rom `Tavisuflebis instituts~ da `respublikelebs~ ebrZodi, dRes isini yvelaze `moTxovnadi elitarebis~
rangSi gadian, marTalia, isev
0,1 procenti aqvT reitingi,
magram mainc gulaoben da im
ers, romelsac Sen eTayvanebodi, esec fexebze hkidia! fexebze hkidia Seni daxvretac, sandros, butas, irinas, ramazis,
badris da yvelas daxvreta da
ra minda giTxra, ici? iqneb
kargic aris amas rom veRar xedav?
Cven, visac mexsiereba kidev
SemogvrCa, albaT, male amogvivseben pirs miwiT, magram kidev
ra minda, ici movuyve Cvens
mkiTxvels?
erTma Zalian cnobilma poetma Seni sadRegrZelos ludiT Sesma, rom SesTavaza qarTvel ebraelebs da im ebraelebma, ludis baris mepatronesTan erTad, is `patrioti~
poeti ra dReSic Caagdes borjomSi, me-4 sammarTvelos sanatoriumis teritoriaze!
mokled, Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, `drakonis welSi~ sul
drakonul Zvel ambebs mogiyvebiT da Semdeg Tavad gansajeT,
vin vin aris! isic Tavad gansajeT, ramdenad xSirad stumrobs saqarTvelos suliwminda
da ratomaa, rom guSindeli
savleebi dRes pavleebad gvawoneben Tavs? ratom aris, rom
kravis tyavSi gaxveulebi, `saWiro dros saWiro momentSi~
mglobas ar iSlian da Cveni
xorci, xan `na vertele~ eamebaT da xanac umad mirTmeuli
yvela mitingisa Tu arCevnebisas!!! eeeh, ramdeni ram gvakadres am gvarSecvlilma arakacebma?!
barev Zes vracstan, mainc gZinavs, to? gaiRviZe
da azrze modi, raaa?!
irine gogosaSvili
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daTo facacia ar yofila
pirveli, vinac mkvleli uwoda
mixeil saakaSvils, romelic,
gvinda Tu ar gvinda, mainc saqarTvelos prezidentad ixsenieba. mas mkvlels uwodebdnen
TiTqmis yvela saprotesto mitingze da gamofenili iyo am
braldebis damadasturebeli
`foto-masalebi~.
SeiZleba iTqvas, aseTi tipis protesti Cveulebrivi ambavia ucxoeTSi, aSarJeben qveynis meTaurebs, wvaven maT gamosaxulebian butaforiul figurebs, magram, rogorc ityvi-
an, `ra Cveni saqmea mezoblis
Zroxa makea Tu ara~?!
jer erTi, dRemde veravin
SeZlo raime saxis danaSauli
daemtkicebina mixeil saakaSvilsTvis da pasuxisgebaSi
mieca is, xolo moarul Worebze da borot xmebze adamianebs xelaRebiT ver daadanaSauleb. es, ubralod, orRobis
Woriknebis gasarTobi ramea.
meorec, Tu amboben, rom misi garemocva savsea kriminalebiT, amave dros arsebobs `keTili mefis~ argumenti, ise,
rogorc `miSam ar icis, Toreem~...
mokled, yovlad ususuria
yoveli zedapiruli braldebebi `nacionaluri moZraobis~
winaaRmdeg da es, mgoni, SesaniSnavad icis im xalxma, visac
opozicia hqvia.
2012 wlis ianvari miiwura da ara mxolod axali
wlidan, jer kidev gasuli
wlis noembris bolodan daiwyo xelisuflebam arCevnebze
laparaki.
maTi brZanebiT viwyebT
fiqrs, amjerad, arCevnebze.
ras vizamT? gvibrZanes, unda SevasruloT. sxva gza mainc
ar gvaqvs, oRond is mainc movaxerxoT, sworad vifiqroT...
rogor gavagebinoT
brmas, rom coli moukvda?..
iseTi saarCevno kanoni Seiqmna, rom amomrCevels maqsimalurad Seekveca xel-fexi, xolo Cveni opozicia Tavs imiT imSvi-
debs, veneciis komisiam nawilobriv moiwona cvlilebebi, nawilobriv _ ara, xolo
axali Sesworebebis
mimarT mkveTrad `datormuzdao~.
Cveni saqme isea, brmas rom
coli moukvdeba, rogor gavagebinoTo da gverdSi rom ar
dauwveba, xom mixvdeba, mkvdari
romaao. veneciis komisiam Tu
ar gviTxra, Cven ar viciT da
ver vxvdebiT, am saarCevno garemoSi ukeTesi momavlis Sansi 0,1-is toli romaa?
opozicia ukve Tavs izRvevs
da ambobs, xalxi unda mivides
arCevnebze, unda misces xma
opoziciis kandidats da mere
daicvas Tavisi xmao.
ki, batono, gegma Sedgenilia _ moqalaqe iranda kalandaZe
gamovdivar
Cemi
qoxmaxidan,
mivsunsuleb nela,
mivadgebi saarCevno Stabs, sadac
hadesis karibWesaviT, SesasvlelTan
kunTdaberili TvalgaSterebuli,
doinjSemoyrili
dacva dgas, Cavuvli ise, rom SiSiT
Cemi gulis bagabugi mesmis, Cavagdeb
biuletens da (didi Sansia) Tuki
gamiyalbeben, unda
davicva Cemi arCevani, magram rogor
davicva, miTxras
erTi vinmem.
kargi, gamoval quCaSi, davdgebi da viyvireb _ gamiyalbes
xma! ar waval arc dRe, arc
Rame, momcvivdebian, Camartyamen
dubinkas, Semasxureben momwamvlel gazs, damcxrilaven rezinis (da ara marto) tyviebiT, gadamaxdevineben administraciul saxdels da mere an
cixeSi gamgzavnian, an fsiqiatriulSi...
opoziciis liderebi ki
Casxdebian 777 nomrian jipebSi, daimalebian da daiwyeben
imaze fiqrs, rogor wavidnen
`oqros urdoSi~ `yaenTan~ da
moaxsenon, rac Caidines am
`unamusoebma~.
ra ubadrukebi da sacodavebi vCanvarT gareSe TvaliT,
warmogidgeniaT?!..
`mkvleli~ saakaSvili ki
daTareSobs mTasa da barSi da
arxeinad atarebs dros.
vzivar axla da vfiqrob _
vis davujero, xelisuflebas,
romelic avazakobaSi, qveynis
gayvlefaSi, gamyidvelobaSi,
bolos da bolos, mkvlelobaSia eWvmitanili Tu opozicias, romelic mimtkicebs, rom
xelisufleba avazakia da mkvleli?
marTali giTxraT, amovida
yelSi amdeni usamarTloba,
namdvili policiuri reJimi,
terori, SiSi, SiSi, daZabuloba, tyuili!
saqarTveloSi araa
Tavisufleba!
opozicias, amixsnas _ arCevanSi Tavisufali aris
saqarTvelos moqalaqe?
opozicias vTxov imitom,
rom ganurCevlad yvela mzadaa
xval rom arCevnebi daniSnos
demokratiis beladma miSam,
eseni Tavqudmoglejili gadaeSvebian saarCevno morevSi _
daamzadeben plakatebs, bukletebs, daiwyeben dapirebebs...
kargiT, raa, kargiT...
viRas sjera Tqveni. yvela
mitingze uamravi adamiani dagidgaT gverdiT, arCevnebSic
araerTxel dagiWiraT mxari da
axla axals ras sTavazobT
xalxs?
sainteresoa, saarCevno maraToni rom gaCaRdeba, ras
etyviT mosaxleobas _ dapirebebis aRaravis sjera, cnobiT
yvela gicnobT da Sexvedrebze
ra unda qnaT?!
Cemma Zvirfasma mkiTxvelma
waikiTxa Cemi interviuebi saarCevno kanonTan dakavSirebiT
opoziciis warmomadgenlebTan.
rac niSnavs, rom araa pirovnebis Tavisufleba, sindisis Tavisufleba, sityvis Tavisufleba, ar arsebobs sakuTari uflebebis dacvis saSualeba! da maSasadame, arsebobs
arCevanis Tavisufleba?!
ranairi logikaa, es, vTxov
yvela erTxmad aRiarebs, rom
saarCevno garemo mkveTrad gauaresda. (maTi sityvebia) Tu
gauaresda, Tqven raRas zixarT
gulxeldakrefili Tqvensave
`cixe-simagreebSi~, an ras SehyurebT, rogorc guriaSi ityvian, bJioras (beRuras) bar-
tyebiviT ivaniSvils xelebSi
(`fuliani biZiaa biZina da
fuls mogvcems, Cvens Svilebs
kakas vuyidiT~.).
adeqiT da saarCevno garemos gaumjobesebisTvis ibrZoleT,
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, sruli boikoti gamoacxadeT da xalxs
arCevnebze misvla ki
ara, armisvla mouwodeT.
miTxari, vin aris Seni megobari da getyvi, vin xar Sen
_ amaze swori da udavo WeSmariteba ar arsebobs.
mkvleli Tu aris saakaSvili, avazaki, avxorci (neroni,
kaligula, jandaba, oxroba...),
matyuara, qveynis mteri da gamyidveli, misi megobrebi, anu
garemocva xom misi msgavsi iqneba? hoda, Tu Tqvenc igive
ara xarT, ratom iyriT wils
_ kenWs maTTan, ratom apirebT
im TamaSSi CarTvas, romelic
TviTonac iciT, rom Tqveni wagebiT damTavrdeba?
idealuri saarCevno kodeqsic rom Seiqmnas, `mkvleli~
Tavs waigebs, raTa mere sabraldebo skamze aRmoCndes Tavisi danaSaulis gamo? mkvleli xom imis garda, rom saSinlad mSiSaraa, frTxilic aris
da msxverplis, anu dasjilis
rolSi yofnas yovelTvis urCevnia TviTon iyos Tavdamsmeli da gamarjvebuli...
me mgoni, es ubralo ambavia
da vinc xalxis xelaxla gamoyenebas apirebs raRac usindiso, bnel TavebSi winaswar ganzraxuli gegmebis gansaxorcieleblad, amaze qarTveli xalxi ar wamova, xolo me, rogorc Temur qoriZe ambobs,
romantikosi Jurnalisti aravis movuwodeb revoluciisken,
magram gveli rom mokla, amisTvis dedis rZe araa saWiro,
rom dalios da moiCvio. gveli
tyavs ki icvlis, magram mtredi verasdros xdeba. gveli unda mokla, TavSi unda Caartya, T-a-v-S-i!
iranda kalandaZe
irakli sesiaSvili: obamam mkafio miniSneba
gaakeTa, rom saqarTveloSi xelisufleba
demokratiuli arCevnebis Sedegad unda Seicvalos
biZina ivaniSvilis Tanagundel, eqspert irakli sesiaSvilis gancxadebiT, aSS-ss prezidentma barak obamam qarTvel kolega mixeil saakaSvilTan
Sexvedris dasrulebis Semdeg mkafio miniSneba gaakeTa, rom saqarTveloSi
xelisufleba Tavisufali da demokratiuli arCevnebis Sedegad unda Seicvalos.
“am tipis Sexvedrebis Semdeg rogorc wesi, e.w. standartuli tipis gancxadebebi keTdeba xolme. realurad ra sakiTxebze iyo saubari da ra iyo
prioritetuli, Cven amas sajaro gancxadebebidan ver gavigebT. is gancxadebebi, rac obamas mxridan gakeTda, moicavda rogorc pozitiur aspeqtebs,
aseve molodinebs. SeerTebuli Statebi da saqarTvelo strategiuli partniorebi arian da TeTr saxlSi gakeTda im tipis gancxadebebi, rac am formatSi jdeboda”, - ganacxada eqspertma da dasZina, rom obamam dabalansebuli gancxadeba gaakeTa.
“erTi mxriv, obamam saakaSvils madloba gadauxada gaweuli saqmianobisTvis da rac mTavaria,
ar gamorCenia is ZiriTadi sakiTxi, rasac saqarTvelo elodeba, es aris arCevnebi. obamam miniSneba gaakeTa, rom swored Tavisufali da demokratiuli arCevnebis Sedegad unda Seicvalos xelisufleba, rac ukve ganxorcielebul reformebs ganamtkicebs”, - aRniSna sesiaSvilma “medianiusTan” saubrisas.
`medianiusi~
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`respublikur partiasa~ da `Tavisuflebis
instituts~ Soris sxvaoba ar aris _ orives
specsamsaxurebi kvebavdnen yovelTvis
mimdinare politikur procesebze vesaubrebiT `kavkasiis
helsinkis jgufis~ liders baton sandro bregaZes.
_ batono sandro, rogor
fiqrobT, moaxerxebs Tu ara `qarTuli ocneba~, rom `Cajdes~
opoziciur speqtrSi da lideroba gauwios da saerTod, rogor SeafasebdiT am sazogadoebriv moZraobas dRevandeli gadasaxedidan?
_ minda giTxraT, rom 26 maisis Semdeg sazogadoebaSi gaCnda nihilizmi, uimedoba da aravis hqonda imisi imedi, rom SeiZleboda sasikeTod Secvliliyo raime, miTumetes saakaSvilis
reJimis damarcxeba.
biZina ivaniSvilis gamoCena
politikaSi gaxda bevri ramis
ganmsazRvreli, man faqtobrivad
moaxerxa qarTuli sazogadoebis, politikuri speqtris gamofxizleba da opoziciuri moZraobis axal
etapze gadayvana.
rac Seexeba Tavad
`qarTuli ocnebis~ daarsebas, me ivaniSvils
finansuri kuTxiT ar
vuyureb, vfiqrob, rom
is sakmaod inteleqtualuri kacia da didi politikuri potenciali
gaaCnia imisaTvis, rom
gaxdes erovnuli an saerTo-saxalxo lideri,
romelic SeZlebs saakaSvilis reJimis damarcxebas da iseTi politikis gatarebas, romelic damyarebuli iqneba
Tavisuflebasa da demokratiaze. rac Seexeba mis
politikur partniorebs, me ar
minda rom garedan mrCevlad davudge mas da vinme vlanZRo da
vagino imitom, rom vfiqrob, Tavad ivaniSvilma kargad icis im
politikuri partiebis reitingi, romelnic gverdiT hyavs. is
gamWriaxi gonebis mqonea da Tavad sazRvravs, politikuri
moRvaweobis ra etapze vin sWirdeba gverdiT. es misi arCevania
da am arCevanSi is Tavisufalia.
xolo ara rogorc politikur
partniorebs, aramed rogorc
partiis konteqstSi, pirdapir
SemiZlia ganvacxado, rom respublikuri partia erovnuli
ideologiis mqone adamianebisaT-
vis aris sruliad miuRebeli,
imitom rom realuri gansxvaveba `respublikur partiasa~
da `Tavisuflebis instituts~ Soris ar arsebobs!
Tu aviRebT magaliTad giga
bokeriasa da levan berZeniSvils Soris sul samadsami
gansxvavebaa: 1. erTi aris axalgazrda meore xanSiSesuli, erTi aris SedarebiT gamxdari meore ufro msuqani, erTs fexburTSi braziliis gundi moswons, meores argentinis! sxva
aranairi ideologiuri gansxvaveba maT Soris ar aris! orive
es partia aRmocenebulia erT
wiaRSi, erTi gza aqvT da erTi
xelidan ikvebebodnen mTeli amdeni xnis ganmavlobaSi.
maT kvebavdnen ucxo specsamsaxurebi, romelTac saqarTvelosaTvis kargi arasodes ar undodaT! Tumca, biZina ivaniSvils
aqvs gansazRvruli is, Tu risTvis hyavs isini gverdSi. Tumca,
me es pirovneba ar memeteba imisaTvis, rom mas erTi an ori
partia hyavdes garSemo da iyos
maTi lideri imitom, rom marto
ori partiis mxardaWeriT qveyanaSi Zireuli cvlilebebi ar
moxdeba.
zviad gamsaxurdias Semdeg
aravis ar hqonia imis potenciali, rom gamxdariyo mTeli opoziciis lideri, dRes ki Sansi
gaCnda ivaniSvilis saxiT, mas
SeuZlia iyos saerTo-saxalxo
lideri, Tu mas survili eqneba.
amitom, me dRevandeli gadasaxedidan vityodi erTs, rom dro
win midis da uaxloes periodSi
kargad gamoCndeba, Tu vin visTan
aris.
_ arCevnebSi gamarjvebas
SesZlebs opozicia?
_ Tavis droze Jvanias gundis wevrebma SemoiRes saqarTveloSi gayalbebis meqanizmi, isini SevardnaZes uyalbebdnen jer
arCevnebs, Semdgom saakaSvils.
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.net
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z
ze
momavalSi ki, Tu darCebian xelisuflebaSi, kvlavac gaayalbeben. isini am saqmeSi gamocdilebiT arian. amitom albaT, SesamuSavebelia axali, erToblivi meqanizmebi, rom SemdgomSi daicvan
gayalbebisagan arCevnebi. aq marto ucxoeli damkvirveblebi ver
uSvelian saqmes. xelisuflebas
unda gauCndes SiSi imisa, rom
isini kvlav gayalbebis gziT
wavlen, isini miiReben mZlav saprotesto talRas, romelsac veravin ver SeaCerebs.
_ erTxel xom ukve iyo aseTi talRa,
mTeli stadioni savse
xalxi, mitingebi TveobiT, ra Sedegi gamoiRo am yvelaferma?
_ gansxvaveba is
gaxlavT, rom maSin ar
iyo biZina ivaniSvili
lideri, me Seuracxyofas ar vayeneb levan
gaCeCilaZes, magram mis
SesaZleblobebsa da
ivaniSvils Soris sxvaoba didia.
dResac arsebobs imisi saSiSroeba, rom momavali arCevnebi gaayalbon. amitom unda dafiqrdnen
isini, Rirs ki momavalSi amis
gakeTeba? saprotesto talRas
revolucia xom ar mohyveba?
unda axsovdeT rom revoluciebs cota cudi ram
mohyveba bolos!
me veTanxmebi ivaniSvils
imaSi, rom arCevnebis gziT
mTavrobis Secvla idealuri variantia, magram ra
moxdeba? saakaSvilis xelisuflebas unda eyos Wkua
imisa, rom arCevnebis gziT
wavidnen da SerCeT yvelaferi da daaviwydeT isini
xalxs.
Cven xom gvaxsovs yvelaferi 2003 wels rac moxda? nino burjanaZis Tu saakaSvilis Secdomebi da xelisuflebaSi yofna, xom
daaviwyda maSin xalxs mxolod
imitom, rom xelisufleba Secvliliyo? ase iqneba axlac. maSin
maT daamarcxes SevardnaZis Zirmompali reJimi, amitom xalxma
maT yvelaferi apatia! Tumca, maSin albaT xalxi ver warmoidgenda, rom saakaSvili SevardnaZeze uaresi gamovidoda.
_ baton biZinas `qarTul
ocnebaSi~ ar misulxarT, ar gqoniaT maTTan kontaqti?
_ amas albaT, Tavad ivaniSvili gadawyvets, vin iqneba maTTan. Tumca, mas sul rom ar hqonoda fuli da 5 miliardis patroni ar yofiliyo da mxolod
kargi saqmeebi ekeTebina, is CemTvis mainc didi adamiani da pirovneba iqneboda. bevrisTvis, misi fulia masTan siaxlovisaTvis
gadamwyveti.
me profesiiT filosofosi
var, asevea mamaCemic, is akademikosi filosofosia da rodesac
ivaniSvilis gamosvla vnaxeT televiziiT, davrwmundiT, rom is
filosofiurad azrovnebs da
moazrovne adamiania. platoni ambobda, rom: `imisaTvis rom saxelmwifo iyos bednieri amisaTvis saWiroa, rom mefeebi filosofosobdnen an filosofosebi
mefobdnen~. amitom me xazs vusvam mis filosofiur azrovnebas.
_ `aliasTan~ interviuSi
Tqven ambobT, rom biZina ivaniSvils, bevri garSemomyofi dascinis. es yurmokruli sityvebia
Tu Wori?
_ ara, es ar aris yurmokruli sityvebi, me is Tavad movismine da amis gamo me seriozuli
kamaTic momivida maT mTqmelTanac.
_ iqneb daasaxeloT pirovnebebi, vin moixsenia is augad?
_ me ar var Worikana, rom
isini dRes davasaxelo, giTxariT, me maT pasuxi gaveci amaze.
iqve imitom, rom zurgsukan saqcieli ar aris vaJkacis saqme da
rodesac adamians dascini, romlis gundSic Sen moiazrebi, amiTi Sens uzrdelobasa, araadamianurobas da aragulwrfelobas
usvam xazs. amjerad, dakonkretebas azri ar aqvs. vityvi erTs,
ekaterina xvedeliZisTvis
moqalaqeobis miniWebis
gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba
dReidan daiwyeba
biZina ivaniSvilis meuRlis ekaterina xvedeliZisTvis saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis miniWebis
gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba dReidan daiwyeba.
rogorc “medianiuss” misma advokatma Salva TadumaZem ganucxada,
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlom mosamarTle SoTa gewaZis mier gamotanil ganaCenze saaRsrulebo furceli
ukve gamosca.
“dRes es dokumenti saaRsrulebo
biuroSi Semaqvs”, - ganacxada TadumaZem da dasZina, rom xvedeliZe piradobis mowmobasa da saqarTvelos pasports uaxloes dReebSi aiRebs.
isini misi politikuri garemocvis xalxi.
me nebismier SemTxvevaSi ase
moviqceodi, Tu adamiani romelime politikuri partiis Tu
organizaciis wevria, _ mis liders ar unda dascino maSin, ra
undaT mis gverdiT?
_ sainteresoa, ra aqvs biZina ivaniSvils maTi dasacini, ras
gulisxmobdnen?
_ me var Tbiliseli kaci,
magram vTvli, rom saSinelebaa
Tbilisuri provincializmi. amas akeTeben
iseTi adamianebi, romelTac niWi ara aqvT
da arafrisaTvis ar miuRweviaT da erTaderT
regaliad Tvlian imas,
rom arian Tbiliselebi.
aba, gadaxedeT saqarTvelos istorias, ilia,
akaki, konstantine gamsaxurdia, vaJa _ iyvnen
isini Tbiliselebi? SeiZleba Tqvas vinmem rom
isini didi moRvaweni ar iyvnen?
im periodSic rom aseTi Tbiliselebi yofiliyvnen yvelani, albaT maT Rvawls da niWs ver dainaxavdnen. da ilias yvarlel
goimad CaTvlidnen da akakis
saCxerel provincielad, imitom,
rom SeSurdebodaT maTi niWis.
eseni arian snoburi kompleqsebiT gatanjuli adamianebi.
pirdapir getyviT _ am SemTxvevaSi dascinodnen biZina ivaniSvils misi filosofosobis gamo
da es iyo is xalxi, vinc filosofiis gagebaSi ar aris! zemoTac
giTxariT da vimeoreb, dRevandeli mecnier filosofosebisaTvis
is Rrmad moazrovne adamiania,
romelsac esmis es sakiTxi.
ratom ar ivarga mmarTvelad
SevardnaZem an saakaSvilma? imitom rom isini ar icnobdnen am
mecnierebas da mis warmomadgenlebs _ isini arafilosofiurad
azrovnebdnen! vinc ase ar azrovnebs mis pragmatizmSic ki vaWruli elementebi aris da meti
araferi.
biZina ivaniSvils aqvs imisi
potenciali, rom man axali tipis saxelmwifo Camoayalibos,
romelic filosofiur azrovnebaze iqneba damyarebuli da bednier saqarTvelos daudebs saTaves.
eTer kasreliSvili
rogorc cnobilia, ivaniSvilis meuRle saqarTveloSi politikuri partiis dafuZnebas apirebs, amisaTvis ki mas saqarTvelos pasporti esaWiroeba.
SegaxsenebT, rom xvedeliZes saqarTvelos
moqalaqeoba mosamarTle SoTa gewaZis mier gamotanili ganaCenis safuZvelze aRudga. sasamarTlom saqarTvelos prezidentis gankargulebis
is nawili, romlis mixedviTac
xvedeliZes saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba SeuCerda, baTilad miiCnia.
kanoniT gansazRvrul vadaSi
prezidentis administraciam sasamarTlos mier gamotanili ganaCeni ar gaasaCivra, ris Sedegadac gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebis procedura avtomaturad daiwyo.
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msoflio presis mixedviT
Semakavebeli faqtorebi da
sapirwoneebi, agreTve xelisuflebaSi yofnis vadebis SezRudva
swored imitom arsebobs, rom
elitam sakuTari interesebi qveynisa da sakuTari Tanamoqalaqeebis interesebs ar amjobinos
`urTierToba mokavSiresTanac
iolia da mterTanac, magram sagareo politikaSi yvelaze rTulia iseT mokavSiresTan urTierToba, romlis saqcielsac ver
ganWvret: xan sikeTes mogitans
da xan dagazaralebs. mixeil saakaSvili swored aseT kategorias miekuTvneba~, _ wers gazeT
Si
karnegis
Washington Post-S
fondis eqsperti Tomas de vaali.
saakaSvili egocentruli da
arasaimedo partnioria. vaSingtoni mas mxars uWerda da urCevda, Tavidan aecilebina moskovTan dapirispireba afxazeTisa da samxreT oseTis gamo: miuxedavad amisa, 2008 wels saqarTvelo mainc CaiTria ruseTTan katastroful omSi, romlis mogeba SeuZlebeli iyo.
roca dasavlelma mokavSireebma,
savsebiT gasagebi mizezebis gamo, amjobines, ar Careuliyvnen
da ar daxmarebodnen am omSi
mas, saakaSvili awuwunda, miRalateso. amis Semdgom, misi reputacia SeibRala _ dasavleTis
saxelmwifoebi
saakaSvilTan
umaRles doneze Sexvedras gaurbodnen, magram saqarTvelos
prezidentma Zal-Rone ar daiSura da sakuTari personis reabilitacia moaxdina rogorc
Tavis qveyanaSi, ise sazRvargareT. axla mas Sexvedra gaumarTes ovalur kabinetSi `madlierebis niSnad~, rom msoflio savaWro organizaciaSi ruseTis
Sesvlas barierebi ar Seuqmna.
saakaSvilisdroindeli saqarTvelo ararusulisa da antirusulis nazavia. `ararusulia~ saxelmwifo struqture-
rogor moiqceva saakaSvili _ `putinis
msgavsad~ Tu sakuTar xalxs miendoba?
bis reforma, axali kanonebi
religiuri umciresobebisadmi
Semwynareblobis Sesaxeb da
pluralizmis myari tradicia.
`antirusulia~ is politikuri
nabijebi, romlebic vladimir
putinisa da misi mmarTvelobis
winaaRmdeg aris mimarTuli; sabolood, es yvelaferi putinis
stils gvagonebs. saqme exeba
ruseTis Sesaxeb provokaciul
ritorikas (magaliTad, SarSan
saakaSvilma saqarTvelo `civilizebul~ qveynad moixsenia,
xolo ruseTs `barbarosuli~
uwoda) da imasac, rom Zalaufleba adamianTa viwro wrem Caigdo xelSi. es marTlac sagangaSo viTarebaa.
Tanamedrove
saqarTvelo,
iseve rogorc ruseTi, faqtobrivad erTpartiuli saxelmwifoa, sadac arcTu mravalricxovani elita akontrolebs
aRmasrulebel xelisuflebas,
parlaments, adgilebze Zalauflebas da romelSic sami erovnuli telearxi arsebobs. sasamarTlo sistema ar aris damoukidebeli. korufciisa da kriminalitetis winaaRmdeg warmoebul qarTul kampanias Tavisi
bneli mxare gaaCnia _ didi da
sazogadoebis winaSe aravaldebuli policia. qveynis cixeebi
gavsebulia xalxiT, romlebic
iq ar unda iyvnen: 2011 wels saqarTvelom, erT sul mosaxleze
patimarTa raodenobiT, msoflioSi meoTxe adgili daikava.
dRemde mmarTvel elitas seriozuli winaaRmdegoba ar Sexvedria da amjeradac saparlamento da saprezidento arCev-
nebs gamarjvebis rwmeniT egebeba. Tumca SarSan, xelisuflebas
moulodnelad gamouCnda mowinaaRmdege _ popularuli qarTveli miliarderi biZina ivaniSvili, romelic opoziciur politikur saqmianobaSi Caeba. mis-
atares. samTavrobo mediasaSualebebi cdiloben, ivaniSvili
ruseTis marionetad warmoaCinon, rac ar gamosdiT da raSic
ver arwmuneben mosaxleobas.
amis mizezi is gaxlavT, rom
ivaniSvilma Tavis partniorebad
ma demarSma bevri qarTveli gaaxara, romlebsac mobezrdaT
moqmedi administraciis rogorc
ekonomikuri politika, ise maTi
gabatonebuli mdgomareoba politikur scenaze.
biZina ivaniSvilma, romelmac
qoneba 90-iani wlebis ruseTSi
daagrova, jerjerobiT politikuri gamocdileba ar gaaCnia.
mis axalwamowyebul saqmianobaze mTavrobis reaqcia ukiduresad ulamazoa: iuridiuli formalobis momizezebiT, mas saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba CamoarTves,
xolo bankSi, romelic biznesmens ekuTvnis, fulis gaTeTrebis braldebiT specoperacia Ca-
yvelaze prodasavluri orientaciis opoziciuri Zalebi SearCia.
`saqarTvelos axlandelma
prezidentma demokratiulobis
testi ver Caabara. axla mas ufro rTuli gamocda elis _ saakaSvilma, 2004 wels konstituciaSi Setanili cvlilebebiT, gaaZliera sakuTari aRmasrulebeli uflebamosilebebi,
xolo 2010 wels, 2013 wlis
saprezidento arCevnebamde, anu
saprezidento vadis amowurvamde, kidev erTxel Caaswora qveynis umTavresi kanoni. axla, roca saakaSvili Tanamdebobidan
wava, prezidentis umravlesi
vaSingtons ara konkretul mTavrobasTan,
aramed saqarTvelosTan urTierToba surs
TbilisTan urTierTobaSi aSS saakaSvilis rols gazviadebulad ar afasebs
vaSingtonSi amerikisa da saqarTvelos prezidentebis 30
ianvris Sexvedras eqspertebi
aanalizeben da afaseben. barak
obamas prezidentobis ganmavlobaSi, es aris saakaSvilis pirveli oficialuri viziti amerikis prezidentTan. gamocemis mier gamokiTxul eqspertTa azriT, sam welze metxniani pauza
ar aris gamowveuli or qveyanas
Soris raime seriozuli konfliqtiT, Tumca imasac amboben,
rom vaSingtoni saakaSvils aSkarad aRar uWers mxars.
amerika da gayinuli
konfliqtebi
saqarTvelosTvis
Zalzed
mniSvnelovania amerikis mxardaWera afxazeTTan da samxreT
oseTTan konfliqtebis mogvarebisas. germaneli eqsperti iris
kempe acxadebs: amerika kvlavac
aRiarebs saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTlianobis princips,
Tumca swored am mizezis gamo
amerikelebi Suamavlad ver gamodgebian.
amerikas ruseTze zemoqmedebis berketebi gaaCnia, magram maTi gamoyeneba axla SeuZlebelia
_ `gadatvirTvis~ periodSi gaC-
berlinis kavkasuri fondis
_ `mecnierebisa da politikis~
eqspert uve halbaxs ki miaCnia,
rom Tu `gadatvirTvis~ poli-
nda pauza, ris Sedegadac vaSingtonis zegavlena moskovze Sesustda. Sesabamisad, konfliqtis mogvarebis konkretul Sedegebs uaxloes xanSi arc unda
velodoT.
tika warmatebiT gagrZeldeba,
aSS-s SeeZleba, moskovsa da
Tbilisis Soris Suamavlis roli itvirTos; Tumca, eqspertis
azriT, am rols ukeT miesadageba araerTi sxva kandidati, magaliTad _ evrokavSiri.
amerikuli
geopolitika da
saqarTvelos roli
amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi
ukve mravali welia, aqtiurad
monawileobs qarTveli samxedroebis swavlebasa da momzadebaSi.
amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi,
evrokavSirTan SedarebiT, saqarTvelos usafrTxoebis garantia.
miuxedavad or qveyanas Soris arsebuli urTierTobisa da vaSingtonis mxardaWerisa, miuxedavad
imisa, rom saqarTvelom, natos
misiis farglebSi, avRaneTis samSvidobo operaciaSi monawileobis misaRebad Tavisi aTasi samxedro gagzavna, Crdiloatlantikur aliansSi misi gawevrianebis Sansi aSkarad gauaresda.
obamasTan Sexvedra,
rogorc Sidapolitikuri faqtori
`mixeil saakaSvilis Sexvedra barak obamasTan mniSvnelovania Sidapolitikuri TvalsazrisiT _ amiT saqarTvelos prezidenti qarTvel amomrCevlebSi
uflebamosilebebi premier-ministris xelSi gadava, rac imas
niSnavs, rom misi Zalaufleba
moimatebs. saqarTveloSic da
mis farglebs gareTac ase msjeloben _ saakaSvili putinis
kvals mihyveba da premier-ministris savarZelSi gadabargebas
apirebs. saakaSvili jerjerobiT
Tavs aridebs SekiTxvas, marTla
apirebs Tu ara igi ase moqcevas.
qarTuli elitis warmomadgenlebi arian modernizatorebi
da ara _ demokratebi. drodadro amboben, rom ver dauSveben
sakuTari qveynis ufro met demokratiulobas, radganac amiT
SesaZloa, `reformebi Seferxdes~, opozicionerma politikosebma Zala moikribon da saqarTvelo `ukan dabrundes~. es
aris TiTqos macdunebeli, magram mcdari logika. Semakavebeli faqtorebi da sapirwoneebi,
agreTve xelisuflebaSi yofnis
vadebis SezRudva swored imitom arsebobs, rom elitam sakuTari interesebi qveynisa da sakuTari Tanamoqalaqeebis interesebs ar amjobinos.
Tu saakaSvili SeZlebs, Tavisi uflebamosilebis Semdeg Rirseulad datovos scena, saSualeba misces saqarTvelos, sazogadoeba politikuri TvalsazrisiT ufro pluralisturad moawyos, misi qveyana postsabWouri
sivrcis sxva qveynebs, maT Soris
ruseTs, magaliTs miscems. movlenebis sxvagvarad ganviTarebis
SemTxvevaSi ki, saqarTvelo vaSingtonis Tavistkivili da
problemuri partniori iqneba.
The Washington Post
qulebis dagrovebas cdilobs
da surs, amerikel liderTan
Sexvedra pirad gamarjvebad
warmoaCinos. aseTia rogorc
germanel, ise qarTvel politologTa Sefasebebi. saakaSvilis
didi mcdelobis miuxedavad, es
Sexvedra bevrs verafers moutans imijSelaxul saakaSvils;
Tundac imitom, rom moqmedi xelisuflebis oponentebi Seurigebeli arian. vinc prezidents
uWers mxars, kidev ufro dairwmunebs Tavs sakuTari poziciis
sisworeSi, xolo vinc winaaRmdegia, pozicias ar Seicvlis.
mcdaria mosazreba, TiTqos amerikis SeerTebul Statebs mxolod saakaSvilis mTavrobasTan
surs TanamSromloba. amerikis
administracia iTanamSromlebs
demokratiulad arCeul nebismier xelisuflebasTan, romelic
radikalurad ar Secvlis qveynis ganviTarebis veqtors.
marTalia, vaSingtoni TiTqos mxars uWers mixeil saakaSvils, magram germaneli eqspertis azriT, amerika ar apirebs
gaazviados qveynis axlandeli
prezidentis roli or saxelmwifos Soris urTierTobaSi. vaSingtons surs ara konkretul
mTavrobasTan, aramed mTlianad
saqarTvelosTan urTierToba.
Deutsche Welle
internetmimoxilva moamzada
gulbaaT WavWavaZem.
18 saerTo gazeTi
`vardosnebis~ xelisuflebaSi
mosvlis Semdeg saqarTvelo mudmivad bewvis xidze gadis. TiTqosda 2008 wlis agvistos omi
ar gveyofoda, romelmac qveynis
teritoriebis 20% dagvakargvina,
rom kvlav axali gansacdelis winaSe dagvayenes. im SemTxvevaSi,
Tu aSS-ma irans daartya saakaSvilis aramkiTxe meambeobis gamo,
ar aris gamoricxuli iranis samizne Cvenc gavxdeT.
swored am yvelaferma gagvaxsena kluver-biusis sindromis saxeliT cnobili fsiqikuri daavadeba, romlis Sesaxebac ramdenime
wlis win mediiT iyo saubari.
mkiTxvels ar gauWirdeba imis
mixvedra, Tu ratom aris saintereso informacia am daavadebis
Sesaxeb da logikur daskvnebs Tavadve gamoitans. axla ki imis Sesaxeb, Tu ras warmoadgens xsenebuli sindromi. ramdenime samedicino gamocemis Tanaxmad (12 samedicino gamocemaze dayrdnobiT
vsaubrobT), kluver-biusis sindromi qcevis darRvevaa, romelic
nervuli sistemis organuli dazianebis fonze viTardeba. pirvelad es daavadeba 1937 wels hainrix kluverma da pol biusma
eqsperimentuli kvlevebis monacemebis safuZvelze aRweres.
am kvlevebis farglebSi eqsperimentebs maimunebze atarebdnen,
romlebsac Semdegi simptomebi ganuviTardaT: bulemia (Warbi uazro Wama), hiperseqsualuri qceva
homoseqsualuri, heteroseqsualuri an autoseqsualuri midrekilebiT; SiSi, SfoTva an agresiuloba; hiperoraluri qceva (sagnebis piriT dagemovneba-gasinjvis
tendencia),
hipermetamorfozi
(garemos vizualuri daTvalierebis akviatebuli survili). maleve es daavadeba adamianebSic aRmoaCines. pirveli klinikuri SemTxveva 1955 wels aRweres. adamianebSi es sindromi sruli saxiT
iSviaTad vlindeba. misi aRmocenebis mizezi SeiZleba Semdegi saxis daavadebebi iyos: herpesuli
encefaliti (Tavis tvinis anTeba), safeTqlebis wilebisa da nuSisebri birTvis ormxrivi dazianebiT, tuberkulozuri meningiti,
Tavis tvinis tramvuli dazianeba
da a.S.
adamianebSi kluverbiusis sindromi Semdegi simptomebiT vlindeba: emociuri siClunge,
hiperoraluroba (sagnebis pirSi Cadebis dauZleveli, akviatebuli
survili, rac gamowveulia piris stimulaciisa da am gziT sagnis Secnobis surviliT da ara
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yalibdeba fsoqopaTia. fsiqiatrebis gancxadebiT,
sazogadoeba kargad unda dafiqrdes da fsiqiurad
arawonaswor, aramdgrad, ucnauri
qcevebis matarebel, TavSeukavebel, araTanmimdevruli qcevebisa da
gamoTqmebis mqone
pirovnebas arCevnebis dros mxari ar
unda
dauWiros.
aseTi
pirovneba
ojaxsac ki ver
marTavs da cxadia,
misTvis saxelmwifos marTvis mindoba ar SeiZleba.
Tavdajerebuli,
itanen, maTTvis es, rogorc intoqsikacia, isea, risi mizezic
gadatanili meningialuri (tvinis) garsis anTebaa. isini am
dros iseT midrekilebebs avlenen, romelsac sifxizleSi Trgunaven, an cdiloben daTrgunvas.
aqvT gaZlierebuli paTologiuri
urCoba, seqsualuri midrekileba,
Wamis mimarT dauokebeli mada,
mousvenroba, erT adgilze ver
Cerdebian. saerTod, xelovani
xalxia, fantaziis moyvaruli da
ucnauri. maT Soris bevri iyo
avadmyofi da alkoholiki, magram
am xalxs saxelmwifos marTvis
pretenzia arc aqvs. rac Seexeba
amgvari fsiqikis mqone adamianis
fantaziis nayofs, Tuki man aiCema da realizacia gaukeTa am fantazias, SeiZleba Zalze cudi
iyos qveynisTvis. am adamianebSi es
amoCemeba da realizaciis survi-
xelisuflebis savizito baraTad
aris qceuli.
respondentTa TqmiT, arasdros amoiSleba sazogadoebis mexsierebidan agvistos omis dros
SiSisgan buCqebSi SemZvrali qveynis mTavarsardlis, pirveli piris foto, romelsac sakuTari
halstuxi aqvs pirSi Cadebuli.
ar SeiZleba erTdroulad iyo
mSiSarac da qveynis mTavarsardalic. aseve qronikuli crupenteloba, rogor ambob, rom qveyanaSi kriminogenuri viTareba mTlianad mospe, roca patimarTa raodenobis mxriv evropaSi pirvel
adgilze xar, msoflioSi ki meoTxeze? am patara qveyanaSi mosaxleobis raodenobasTan SefardebiT yvelaze meti patimari rom
aris, es xom imaze metyvelebs,
rom cruob, an arada, xalxs tyuilad iWer. an is rogor daaviwy-
kluverbiusis sindromi
SimSiliT), uazro Wama,
romelsac Tan axlavs
wonis mateba (Wama xdeba
socialurad miuRebeli
qmedebebiT – sakvebis
lokva, xeliT Sexeba), hiperseqsualuri qceva
(ar aqvT seqsualuri
TavSekaveba), mxedvelobiTi agnozia, anu fsiqikuri sibrmave (sagnebis
vercnoba).
konkretulad ras niSnavs
kluver-biusis sindromi da ra
iwvevs am daavadebas, amis Sesaxeb
`saerTo gazeTi~ fsiqiatrebs gaesaubra. iqidan gamomdinare, rom
nacxelisufleba am profesiis
adamianebs ar swyalobs da arcTu
iSviaTad `pogromebsac~ uwyobs,
gavixsenoT periodulad cnobili
fsiqiatrebis masobrivi dapatimreba, Cveni respondentebis (romelTa kvalificiurobaSic eWvi
ar gvepareba) vinaobis gamxelisgan Tavs SevikavebT. fsiqiatrTa
ganmartebiT, kluver-biusis sindromi fsiqopaTiis erT-erTi saxea.
sxvaTa Soris, am sindromis erTerTi simptomi frCxilebis kvnetac yofila.
fsiqopatia adamianebSi viTardeba mSobiarobis dros gadatanili travmis dros (asfiqsia, Wiplaris Semoxveva), aseve fizikuri
travmis miRebis dros Tundac avtoavariis Sedegad. garda amisa,
sicxiani daavadebebis drosac (encefaliti, meningo-encefaliti)
cagareiSvili: saakaSvili
rom warsulis politikosia,
obamamac aRiara
saparlamento fraqciis – “erToba samarTlianobisTvis” Tavmjdomare giorgi cagareiSvils aSS-ssaqarTvelos prezidentebs Soris gamarTuli Sexvedris yvelaze mniSvnelovan detalad saqarTveloSi moaxloebuli arCevnebi da misi demokratiulad da samarTlianad Catareba
miaCnia.
rogorc man obama-ssaakaSvilis
guSindeli Sexvedris Sefasebisas
Jurnalistebs ganucxada, aSS-iis
prezidentma xazi gausva, rom unda
moxdes xelisuflebis gadacema. am
qveynebs Soris urTierTobebis gaRrmaveba swored momaval arCevnebzea
damokidebuli.
“saakaSvili rom warsulis politikosia, es manac aRiara, roca Tqva, rom moxdeba xelisuflebis gadacema axali prezidentisaTvis,
rasac “Tavisufali demokratebi” da “qarTul ocnebaSi” Semavali sxva politikuri partiebi yovelTvis xazs vusvamdiT. momaval urTierTobebs axali
liderebi ganaviTareben da mas safrTxe ar daemuqreba”, — aRniSna giorgi cagareiSvilma.
impulsuri, gauwonasworebeli,
iWvneuli adamiani, romelic sxvis
rCevebs ar iziarebs, qveyanas sikeTes ver moutans. vaxtang VI
Tavis mier Sedgenil `samarTlis
wignis~, romelic, faqtobrivad,
Cveni kanonebis pirveli wignia,
SesavalSi wers, rom es wigni dawera moxucTa da brZenTa TanadgomiT. saqarTvelos dRevandeli
xelisuflebas ki rogor aqvs ignorirebuli gamocdili profesionalebis azri, es yvelas kargad
moexseneba.
moarul xmebs Tu davujerebT,
Cveni qveynis zogierT pirvel
pirsac hqonia bavSvobaSi gadatanili encefalituri daavadeba. am
daavadebis gadatanis Semdeg bavSvi SeiZleba fsiqopaTad Camoyalibdes. iyos Wirveuli, Znelad
aRsazrdeli, magram fsiqiatrTa
ganmartebiT, es xels ar uSlis,
rom am adamianma ucxo ena an sxva
romelime erTi sagani kargad iswavlos. fsiqiatriaSi cnobili
yofila gamoTqma, universaluri
mTvleli. isini ixseneben erT gonebrivad CamorCenil kacs, romelic milionebis farglebSi zepirad iTvlida da angariSobda, aseve hyoliaT pacienti, romelic
brwyinvaled TamaSobda Wadraks
da a.S. anu arsebobs adamianis
calmxrivad ganviTareba.
aseTi adamiani SeiZleba iyos
meocnebe, ucnauri an Taviseburi.
isini alkoholur sasmels mZimed
rac Seexeba termin “formalurs”, deputatis
ganmartebiT, is
nebismier leqsikonSi “oficialurs” niSnavs.
“maqvs imis bedniereba, viyo im partiaSi, romelSic eqvsi yofili elCia. garwmunebT, rom sityva
“formaluri” yovelTvis oficialurs
niSnavda, yovelTvis am gagebiT iyo aRqmuli da axlac am konteqstSia naTqvami”, — aRniSna giorgi cagareiSvilma da dasZina, rom es gamonaTqvami diplomatiur urTierTobebSi gamoiyeneba.
misive
mtkicebiT, saqarTveloSi
stumrobisas aSS-iis saxelmwifo mdivani hilari klintonic zustad imaves
ityvis.
“garwmunebT, rom 2 kviris Tavze
igi saqarTvelos ewveva da imaves ityvis. ase rom, batoni akaki minaSvilic
da gabaSvilebic xelisuflebis gadacemisTvis moemzadon. Catardeba Tavisufali arCevnebi da moxdeba xelisuflebis gadacema.
ar Catardeba Tavisufali arCevnebi da xelisuflebis gadacema yvela SemTxvevaSi mainc moxdeba.
sjobs, nebiT daTmon is, rasac qarTveli xalxi saerTo aRSfoTebis ZaliT mainc moipovebs. visac rogorc unda, ise gaigos da Targmnos Cemi naTqvami”,
— aRniSna giorgi cagareiSvilma.
li imdenad didia, rom amisTvis
wiraven dros, zedmet fuls, Tanac im fuls, romelic maT ar
ekuTvniT. Sedegi ar ainteresebT,
mTavaria, maTi survili Sesruldes. yvelaze mTavari isaa, rom
isini angariSs ar uweven konkretuli saqmis specialistebis,
kompetenturi profesionalebis
azrsa da rCevebs.
fsiqopati paTologiuri fsiqikis mqone adamians hqvia. fsiqopatia avadmyofoba ar aris, magram
uaresia. es aris mdgomareoba Tavisi ucnaurobebiT, saSineli CvevebiTa da pretenziebiT cxovrebis mimarT. fsiqopaTebis erT-erTi Tviseba swored angariSgauwevlobaa. amitom amboben, rom Tu
fsiqopaTs `mwvane gza~ aqvs, is
gaivlis derefans, Tu ara da
Zalze SesamCnevi da Znelad asatani xdeba. yoveli winaRoba Tu
winaaRmdegoba maTSi ganrisxebas,
agresias da agznebas iwvevs. agzneba da eWvi ki logikas aukuRmarTebs. aseTi adamianebi Tavis
Tavsac awvaleben da sxvebsac.
fsiqiatrebi urCeven aseTi fsiqikis mqone adamianebs Tavi Seikavon
da koreqcia gaukeTon TavianT
qcevebs, raTa xalxs TvalSi uaryofiTad ar moxvdnen, Tumca ramdenad SeuZliaT maT es an survili Tu aqvT amis gakeTebis es
aris mTavari.
ara marto opozicioneri politikosebisgan,
sazogadoebis
mxridanac xSirad moismenT mixeil saakaSvilis gauwonasworeblobasa da araadeqvaturi qmedebebTan dakavSirebiT arcTu sasiamovno epiTetebs. Cven aravisTvis
diagnozis dasmas ar vapirebT, ubralod, gvinda medikosebTan erTad misi saqcieli gavaanalizoT.
qveynis meTauris sityva aTjer
mainc unda iyos awonili da mozomili, radgan mas qveyana da
xalxi usmens. ranairad SeiZleba
prezidentobaze pretenziis mqone
adamianma Rvawlmosil mecnierebs,
xelovnebsa da mwerlebs Carecxilebi uwodo. aseve miuRebelia is
cru dapirebebi, romliTac es xelisufleba amdeni welia kvebavs
sazogadoebas. uazro siswrafe
raRacis damTavrebaSi, rom mere
wiTeli lentis gaWriT gaxsnas.
Sedegi ki Weridan Camosuli wyali, Sedgmuli `vedroebi~, aseve
quCaSi gamosuli devnilebia, romlebsac sasmeli wyali ar aqvT,
samagierod, Camongreuli Weridan
Tavze awvimT da aTovT. es mudmivi SeuTavsebloba dapirebebsa da
Sesrulebas Soris saakaSvilis
deba xalxs, rac TabukaSvilis
quCaze moxda, roca xalxs saxli
Tavze daangries da umweo moxucebi da avadmyofebi sawolebiT
gamoyares quCaSi. es aris daundobloba, daSinebis survili, rac
specialistTa daskvniT, fsiqikurad janmrTeli adamianis saqcieli ar aris. gavixsenoT, rogor
moeqcnen Tsu-s profesuras. rogor gamoketes Rvawlmosili mecnierebi erT patara oTaxSi sasmeli wylis gareSe da tualetSic
ki ar uSvebdnen. policiis mier
umaRlesi saswavleblis Senobis
alyaSi moqceva bolSevikebsac ki
ar mosvliaT azrad. fsiqiatrebi
imiTac gaocebulni arian, saidan
moiyvanes amdeni ubadruki inglisuris maswavlebeli. respondentTa yuradRebis centrSi `vardosnebis~ frazeologia-terminologiac moxvda. magaliTad, gonivruli eWvi da am eWvis safuZvelze
daWerili xalxi. eWvi arsebobs
usafuZvlo an safuZvliani, iqneb
agvixsnan, ras niSnavs gonivruli
eWvi, am frazis Semomtani da damkanonebeli TviTon aris damnaSaveo. an es mdgradi ekonomikuri
ganviTareba
saidan
moigones,
mdgradi TavisTavad myars niSnavs,
ganviTareba dinamikas da es ori
sityva rom erTmaneTTan sruliad
SeuTavsebelia, ki unda xvdebodnen fsiqikurad janmrTelobaze
pretenziis mqone xelisufalni.
Cven namdvilad ar viciT, visi iniciativaa am frazebis damkvidreba da netav, amis meti ubedureba ar xdebodes Cvens qveyanaSi, magram yovelTvis, rbilad
rom vTqvaT, gaocebas iwvevda xelisuflebis warmomadgenelTa monuri morCileba saakaSvilis uazro xuSturebis mimarT. bunebrivad Cndeba kiTxva, nuTu yvela
aseTi gonebaClungia, rom ver
xvdeba, daRupvisken rom mihyavs am
kacs qveyana? am kiTxvaze fsiqiatrebi ase pasuxoben – xelqveiTebi Tavs arideben aseTi fsiqikis
mqone adamianTan yovelgvar Sesityvebas da SekamaTebas, radgan
sapasuxod agresias miiReben. es
agresia ki imdenad mouzomelia,
rom SemkamaTebelma sxeulis dazianebac SeiZleba miiRos. samsaxuridan moxsna-gagdebaze aRarafers vambobT _ Cveulebrivi ambavia. ise, premier-ministr zurab
Jvanias burusiT mocul sikvdils
Tu gavixsenebT, saakaSvilis xelqveiTTa simunjes marTlac aqvs
logikuri safuZveli.
manana suxiSvili
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civilizebuli evropis da amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis urTierTSeTanxmebuli dapirispireba iranis respublikasTan dRiTidRe mwvavdeba.
ormuzis sruteSi ukve 1 kviraa
amerikuli aviamzidi `abraam linkolni~ da sxva wvril-wvrili samxedro gemebi patrulireben. Tavis
mxriv, iranis samxedro mTavarsardloba sakuTar aviacias, raketebsa
da jars mtris SesaZlo gaaqtiurebisTanave samxedro wvrTnebidan pirdapir brZolis velze gaiyvans da
mesame msoflio omis dawyebasac veRaraferi aRudgeba win.
saocaria, magram amerika-israelis erToblivi, koordinirebuli
provokaciis Sesaxeb zustad 5
wlis win, ruseTis `dumis~ deputati vladimer Jirinovski CemTan interviuSi akeTebda xmamaRal gancxadebas da qarTvelebs gvafrTxilebda, rom iranis winaaRmdeg warmoebul omSi qarTvelebi amerikelebs
ar davxmarebodiT, Torem iranuli
raketebi mTeli saqarTvelos Tavze
wvimasaviT gamoCndeboda da Cveni saxelmwifo `Sah 2~ da `Sah 3~-ebis
samizne gaxdeboda.
miaqcieT yuradReba Semdegs am
gancxadebas vl. Jirinovski 5 wlis
win akeTebda da iqve dasZenda imasac, rom: `yvelafers rom Tavi davaneboT, Tqveni qveyana marto im
ltolvilTa nakadisgan gaskdeba,
romelnic Tqveni qveynis sazRvrebs
moawydebian! gamoricxulia, somxeTma da azerbaijanma isini daitios,
amitom isini Tqvensken gamoiqcevian
bavSvebiT, moxucebiT da ra unda
qnaT Tqven? marTalia ltolvilebis
nawili `Cerez vaenno gruzinskuiu
dorogu~ Cvensken, anu ruseTiskenac
wamovlen, magram Cven yvelas xom
ver miviRebT? amitom, Tqveni qveyana
`ruxnet ot potoka beJencev~ da
Rirsebic iqnebiT, radgan giyvarT
amerikelebi da maTi brZanebebis
usityvo aRmsruleblebi xarT! `vi
zasluJivaete etogo, mi pomoJem
irancov, a vam pomoJet
buS, makkein i gospoJa
rais~ daimaxsovreT Cemi
sityvebi _ iranTan pirvel saraketo dartymas
ganaxorcielebs israeli
da Semdeg ramdenime saaTSi am omSi amerikis SeerTebuli Statebic CaerTvebian imitom, rom maT
TiTqmis konstituciaSi
uweriaT israelis daxmareba, gasagebia? nu eliT
imasac, rom es omi saqarTvelosTvis sul erTi
iqneba, `vi ruxnete, a rosia vam ne pomoJet! obraSaetes k buSu, k buSu,
on vaS gospod, isus
xristos, rais vaSa bogomater, poniatno~? _ yviroda telefonSi Jirinovski, magram
qarTvelebs misi yvirili, emociuri
teqsti da prognozi rodis iyo,
rom seriozulad aRgviqvams?
dRes, rodesac iranSi mdebare
buSeris atomur eleqtrosadgurTan
dakavSirebiT aseTi vnebaTaRelvebia,
roca aseTi ekonomikuri mkacri sanqciebiT emuqreba msoflio irans,
rogorc momavalSi birTvuli qveynis momavals, Znelia ar daeTanxmo
kremlis `ruporad~ cnobil vladimer volfoviCs da ar dafiqrde imaze, raRa maincdamainc mosalodneli
konfliqtis zRvarze ibarebs amerikis prezidenti baraq obama damTxveul saakaSvils da ra direqtivebis
micemas apirebs misTvis, gnebavT, sahaero koridoris da gnebavT, saqarTveloSi antisaraketo teritoriebis gamoyofis kuTxiT?
saeWvoa da Zalzed damafiqrebeli isic, rom qarTuli saxelisuflebo arxebi yoveldRiur sainformacio gamoSvebebSi amerika-iranis
gamwvavebul urTierTobebze maqsimum 1-wuTiani zepiri informaciebiT
Semoifarglebian da gansxvavebiT
msoflio sainformacio arxebisagan,
am metad mniSvnelovan sakiTxze,
umetes SemTxvevaSi, sduman!
ras malavs saqarTvelos xelisufleba da ra saidumlos unaxaven
mas `rusTavi-2~, `imedi~ da a.S.?
arada, xom Zalian sainteresoa
ras malavs saqarTvelos xelisufleba
da ra saidumlos unaxaven
mas `rusTavi-2~ da `imedi~?
Tundac erTi kiTxvis dasma gnebavT,
saakaSvilisTvis, gnebavT, bokeriasTvis, gnebavT, baqraZisTvis _ ra pozicias daikavebs saqarTvelos xelisufleba maSin, Tuki amerika-israeli, iranis respublikaze marTlac
miitans ieriSs?
Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! iciT Tu
ara Tqven, rom saagento `regnumi~
gasul kviras utyuar wyaroze dayrdnobiT metad sagangaSo niuss avrcelebda mosalodneli konfliqtis Sesaxeb da am konfliqtSi ruseTis monawileobasac ar gamoricxavda? `irans SemTxveviT ar dauwyia samxedro swavlebebi Soreuli moqmedebis raketebis gaSvebiT,
riTac aSS-s da misi mokavSireebisaTvis sakadrisi pasuxis gamcemi saxelmwifos imijs imyarebs~, _ wers
saagento `regnumi~ da iqve aqveynebs
im raketebis moqmedebis arealis CamonaTvals, romelic dRes iranis
SeiaraRebul Zalebs aqvT da ra manZilze SeuZliaT maT frena:
300 km _ baRdadi, quveiTi, yatari.
600 km _ erayis dasavleTi raionebi, TurqeTis samxreT raionebi.
1000 km _ Tbilisi, damasko, qabuli.
1200 km _ baTumi, Tel-avivi, ankara.
1500 km _ kairo, deli, bombei.
2500 km _ kievi, aTeni, berlini, romi.
vfiqrob, Zalze yuradsaRebia
erTi umniSvnelovanesi garemoebac,
kerZod, Tuki iran-israel-amerikis
dapirispireba marTlac gadaizrdeba
(da albaT, male gadaizrdeba) saomar moqmedebebSi,
Cveni mezobeli, aseve birTvuli qveyana _ ruseTi ras
moimoqmedebs saqarTvelos
teritoriebis
(gnebavT,
satransporto koridoris)
SesaZlo
gamoyenebis
kuTxiT? nu dagvaviwydeba
isic, rom Cvengan samxreTiT ruseTs somxeTis teritoriaze udidesi samxedro baza aqvs ganTavsebuli da dRemde am bazis
mosamarageblad (transporti, SeiaraReba) Cvens mier
boZebul koridors iyenebs!!! nurc
is dagvaviwydeba, rom somxeTSi, `giumris~ samxedro bazazea gayvanili
is samxedro teqnikac, romelic rusebs aq, saqarTveloSi hqondaT mobilizebuli sakuTar bazebze da
arc is dagvaviwydes, rom saWiro
dros, saWiro momentSi isini kvlav
saqarTveloSi SeiZleba aRmoCndnen!
saqarTvelos, rogorc amerikuli
samxedro placdarmis SesaZlo obieqts, ar SeiZleba yuradRebis miRma
darCes isic, rom garda iranuli
raketebisa, SesaZloa, rusuli Ceqmac moxvdes cxvirSi da amgvari
TviTnebobisTvis (rogoradac axla
moqmedebs), karga didi xnis manZilze sakuTari sxeulis nawilebis akrefis surviliT Sepyrobili, ro-
gorc saxelmwifo bolomde daiSalos nawilebad! aki, gveubneboda
igive Jirinovski: `vi gruzini budete xodit s kutaisi do tiflis, s
gruzii oCen skoro, tolko eto
ostanetsia~-o?
jandabamde gza hqonia Jirinovskis, magram gana SemTxveviTia vladimer putinis gamosvla ruseTis mTa-
magram Tu yuradRebas davZabavT da
ruseTis arCevnebiswina strategiasac gavixsenebT, mivalT iqamde, rom
omi iranTan, SesaZloa, ruseTis interesebSic Sediodes da ra Tqma
unda am politikur TamaSSic amerika-ruseTi winaswar urTierTSeTanxmebulebic iyvnen!
ratom? ratom da imitom, rom
var arxze da mis mier naTqvami
sityvebi, romelic amerikis TavdacviTi sistemebis saqarTveloSi ganlagebis sakiTxs exeboda?
vladimer putini: `CvenTvis namdvilad ar aris sulerTi da umniSvnelo, Tu sad ganlagdeba amerikelebis sistemebi _ CvenTan axlos
Tu Cveni sazRvrebis moSorebiT!
Cven arasdros SeveguebiT, Tu igi
sabolood saqarTvelos teritoriaze aRmoCndeba... Cveni dartymiTi
sistemebi saqarTvelos unda davumiznoT? warmogidgeniaT, ra saSineleba iqneba es? gvaqvs ki Cven imis
garantia, rom es ar moxdeba? ra
Tqma unda, ara!
Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! piradad
me, putinis am gancxadebis Semdeg
Zalian SevSindi, radgan batoni vova ase haiharad am gancxadebas darwmunebuli var, ar gaakeTebda!
am eWvs ki isic mimZafrebs, rom
kremli, sul raRac erTi kviris win
Riad gamoeqomaga irans da saomar
moqmedebebSi, mxardaWerac aRuTqva
dedamiwis zurgze ar arsebobs saxelmwifo, sadac dampyrobeli qveynis amdeni rezidenti, maRal Tanamdebobebze muSaobdnen, ise rogorc
CvenTan!!! sargeblobdnen ruseT-saqarTvelos moqalaqeobiT, maTi dosieebi savse iyos rusuli `kgb~-sTan
TanamSromlobis epizodebiT da sul
bolos saqarTvelos sagareo saqmeTa ministris griSa vaSaZis (romelic agreTve ruseTis moqalaqea da
ruseTis yofili samxedro ataSec
iyo) mrCevlad iniSnebodes igive
ruseTis moqalaqe, ruseTis warmomadgeneli `gaeroSi~. isic ucnauria, amerikis partniori qveyana
iranTan uvizo reJims uzrunvelyofdes da qveyanaSi paralelurad
yvela strategiul obieqts ruseTze asxvisebdes Calis fasad.
ukve mTelma saqarTvelom icis,
rom miSa saakaSvilma saqarTvelos
sagareo saqmeTa ministroba, faqtobrivad, sakuTar biZas, cnobil
Cekist Temur alasanias Caabara, magram ra mizans emsaxureba sinamdvileSi saakaSvilis es qmedeba, vfiqrob Zneli misaxvedri ar unda iyos.
arc is aris Zneli misaxvedri, rom
partniori amerika `kgb~-s generlis
Temur alasanias am postze daniSvnas saakaSvils ar urCevda da netav,
vin iyo is, vinc miSa am nabijebiT
atara? ra Tqma unda, ruseTi, ra
Tqma unda, kremli da raRa Tqma unda, vladimer putini, romelic martSi prezidentic gaxdeba da iranTan SesaZlo omis dros ki cancara
saakaSvilTan ki ar daiWers saqmes,
aramed Tavis `saratnik~ alasania
biZasTan da batoni Temuric ise moiqceva, rogorc aqamde iqceoda, anu
ruseTis saxelmwifos interesebis
farglebSi!
ruseTis interesTa farglebSi
ki upirvelesad is Sedis, rom msoflios kidev erTxel `daumesijos~
sakuTari siZliere da bevrs Tavisi
sazRvrebis axlomaxlo mikarebis mada daukargos! Tuki iranSi omi marTlac daiwyeba, darwmunebiT SeiZleba imis Tqma, rom ruseTi damkvirveblis rolSi yofnas ar dauSvebs
da amerikas mis sazRvrebTan axlos
Tavisufali moqmedebebis saSualebas
mouspobs!
eqspertTa wreebSi ganixileba
rogorc omis dawyebis, aseve omis
SemdgomSi periodic da, rogorc
kuluarulad macnobes aseTi variantic ganixileba, kerZod, ruseTi
iranis dasaxmareblad da `giumris~
bazis gasaZliereblad afxazeTidan
daZravs Tavis samxedro kontingents, teqnikas da aviacias, gadmoivlis mTel saqarTvelos da wiTeli xidis gavliT Seva somxeTSi! saakaSvils, savaraudod, miscemen uf-
axmedi nejaTis xelisuflebas!
axla, modiT imazec davfiqrdeT,
ruseTi irans romeli gziT miexmareba da ra gziT moamaragebs somxeTSi sakuTar, `giumris~ bazas? nebismier SemTxvevaSi, saqarTvelos
gavliT, xom? ar aris SemTxveviTi
isic, rom sul ramdenime dRis win,
afxazeTis teritoriaze ruseTis
prezidenti medvedevic gamoCnda da
gaJona informaciam imis Taobazec,
rom batoni dima, soWis Semdeg swored samxedro bazebs estumra afxazeTSi, sadac sul axlaxan, axali
teqnikis Seyvana da samxedro kontingentis gazrda uzrunvelyo
kremlma!
ras moimoqmedebs kremli uaxloes periodSi, Zneli saprognozoa,
lebas samxedro hospitlebSi, saavadmyofoebSi, humanurobis principebidan gamomdinare, uzrunvelyos
daWrili amerikeli da ebraeli jariskacebis saqarTveloSi mkurnaloba, samSobloSi gamgzavreba da a.S.
magram igive saakaSvils araviTari
ufleba ar eqneba xeli SeuSalos
ruseTis jaris da teqnikis gadaadgilebas, saqarTvelos teritoriaze ra masStabiTac ar
unda iyos warmodgenili igi!
sainteresoa, eqspertTa mosazrebebi omis Semdgom periodzec, kerZod, maTi azriT,
ukan dabrunebuli samxedro
SenaerTebi, savaraudod, arsadac aRar wavlen da mTeli
saqarTvelos teritoriaze
ganlagdebian, riTac daasruleben saokupacio gegmas,
aRadgenen samxreT kavkasiaSi
sakuTar gavlenebs, magram
iqamde uzrunvelyofen saakaSvilis saqarTvelodan moSorebasac da mas `devnili
prezidentis~ mantiiTac Semosaven gaweuli daxmarebisTvis.
axla vici, nacxelisufleba Semomedaveba: ki, magram, 21 saukuneSi
es rogor SeiZleba moxdeso? moica,
2008 wels, me-18 saukune iyo kalendarze? msoflio erTxel kidev
SeSfoTdeba, magram maleve ruseTs
ukmeven gundruks da amiT dasruldeba yvelaferi!
ise, samarTlianoba moiTxovs,
rom kidev erTxel gadavxedoT
`kgb~-s efreitoris, miSa saakaSvilis biografiul anketas da davrwmundebiT, rom miSa xelisuflebaSic
mSobliurma kgb-m moiyvana, agvistos
omic msoflios SesaniSneblad kgb-m
daawyebina da Tavisi xelisuflebac
`kgb~-m daakompleqtebina Tavisi benduqiZeebiT, vaSaZeebiT, oqruaSvilebiT, kezeraSvilebiT, lomaiebiT,
SaSkinebiT, merabiSvilebiT da a.S.
aki, meubneboda erT-erT sagazeTo interviuSi, dRes ukve ruseTis
vice-premieri dimitri rogozini: _
`diax, Cven daginiSneT vaSaZec da
benduqiZec am postebze~-o?
faqti erTia da jiuti, Tu movlenebi marTlac iranis winaaRmdeg
dawyebuli omis farglebSi ganviTarda _ saqarTveloSi ruseTis morigi intervenciis saSiSroeba realuri gaxdeba da saqarTvelos, rogorc damoukidebeli saxelmwifos
arsebobac Sewydeba!!! ruseTis prezidenti putini ki uproblemod Seudgeba sabWoTa kavSirismagvari saxelmwifos Senebas da xels amaSi
verc amerika SeuSlis da verc evropa. metic, amerikis SeerTebul
Statebs SeiZleba awyobdes kidec
amgvari scenari, radgan Tavis droze viTom daSlaSic aqvs wvlili
Setanili!
ase rom, 2012 weli Zalian arakeTilsaimedod gviRimis, Zvirfaso
mkiTxvelo! Cveni yofac male SesaZloa, miSas mdgomareobas miuaxlovdes da rusebma zustad iseve `dagvakoziron~, rogorc Cveni qorwilis patarZali!
ise, inglisSi policielebi qalebs maniakebisgan Tavisdamcav treiningebis dros aswavlian: `Tu moZalades ver moereviT, moeSviT da siamovneba miiReTo~.
ase, rom arCevani Cvenzea...
irine gogosaSvili
rc mosalodneli iyo,
P.S. rogor
mixeil saakaSvilisa da ammer
rikis
prezidentis bar
raqq obammas Sexvedr
ris
realur
ri, detalur
ri ar
rsis Sesaxeb
ver
ravin ver
raf
fer
ri Seityo, ar
rada, momeCvena, romm batoni obamma odnav
naRvliani, sibr
raluliT aRsavse
TvalebiT iyur
reboda kammer
rebSi. saarois
kaSvili ki, rogor
rc yvela dr
kagebeSniki, isev bednier
ri, mxiar
ruli da mommavlis immedebiT aRsavse
Canda!
20 saerTo gazeTi
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
mogzauroba samSobloSi
(feradi laqebi da xelgaSlili, Saravandiani kaci). samwuxarod, taZris
mTeli mxatvroba gacrecili da mimqralia. saydars araerTxel daemuqra
ganadgureba. erTxel mas CrdiloeTidan damatebiTi kedeli miaSenes gasamagreblad, meored _ 1957 wels Signidan liTonis RerZebiTac daWimes,
magram sasurvel Sedegs ver miaRwies _ kedlebze bzarebi gafarTovda.
ramdenime wlis winaT Zegls seriozuli restavracia gaukeTda da dangrevas gadarCa.
magram Cven isev favnelebs davubrundeT. zeviT naxsenebi `dawerilis~
Tanaxmad, maT SiomRvimis monastrisTvis TeZmis xeobis oTxi sofeli SeuwiravT: cxvereTi (dRevandeli cxaveri), gveldesi (nostedan samxreTiT, 3 kilometrSi iyo), kotmani da
gavazelni. XIII saukuneSi es soflebi isev SiomRvimis sakuTrebaSi yofila. favnelTa gvaris TandaTanobiT
dasustebasTan erTad isini jer same-
ase upasuxebs werilobiT: rac gindaT, yvelaferi momTxoveT garda
Tqveni uZvelesi mamulebisao. romeli
iseTi Zveli mamulebi unda igulisxmebodes aq, romelTa dabruneba rostoms ar SeeZlo? atenis xeobis kikanaTberi Tu TeZmis saTaveebis feli? ara, amaTi dabruneba rostoms
namdvilad ar gauWirdeboda, rogorc
Cans, aq iseT uZveles mamulebzea saubari, romlebic qarTlis Zalian
Zlieri mefis sambrZanebloSi ar Sedis da saakaZeebs didi xnis winaT unda hqonodaT dakarguli. is, rom daRestnuri warmoSobis saakaZeebma
somxeTis gavliT Zalian didi xnis
winaT miaRwies saqarTveloSi (ix.
ioane bagrationis `aRwera saqarTvelos TavadaznaurTa~), iseTive gamogonili istoriaa, rogorc Tavad-aznaurTa didi umetesobis araqarTveloba. raki bagrationebi iudeuri
warmomavlobiT (daviT winaswarmetyvelis CamomavlobiT) iwonebdnen Ta-
aq kelaptari
arasdros qreba
TeZmis xeoba
`estate wminda~ galatozis reliefiT da nostes `sameba~
TeZmis xeobis cixe-t
taZrebis Semovlis da Sesabamisi istoriuli eqskursebis dros, ZiriTadad, sami didi gvaris Tavgadasavali cocxldeba.
eseni arian: favnelebi, Torel-j
javaxiSvilebi da saakaZe-T
TarxniSvilebi.
marTalia, am sami gvaris feodaluri
saxlis interesebi calkeul etapebze erTmaeneTs kveTs, magram isini ZiriTadad 3 sxvadasxva epoqis liderebi arian.
axalqalaqSi gza orad iyofa: erTi xelmarjvniv, mdinarisaken eSveba
da kanionis gayolebiT rkonisken miemarTeba, meore axalqalaqze mibmul
gariyulaSi Sedis da iqidan, Tavis
mxriv, samad itoteba erTawmindis,
gostibes da nostes mimarTulebiT.
faqtobrivad, es TeZmis marjvena napiris mamul-qveyanaa, sadac XVI saukunis meore naxevridan, umetesad, saakaZeebi pirvelobdnen.
gariyulaSi SevdivarT. es sofeli vaxuSti batoniSvils calke ara
aqvs moniSnuli Tavis rukaze. mizezi
is unda iyos, rom axalqalaqis samefo-savaWro qalaqis daarsebis Semdeg
igi Zveli dasaxlebidan mxolod da
mxolod gariyuli ubnis rolSi aRmoCnda. sanacvlod, odnav moSorebiT,
aRniSnulia cnobili daba favnisi,
romelic dRes aRar arsebobs. es daba cnobili imiTaa, rom igi favnelTa gvarTanaa dakavSirebuli.
favnelTa feodaluri saxli rom
IX saukunidan yvelaze metadaa dawinaurebuli TeZmis xeobaSi, amas Cvenamde miRweuli yvelaze Zveli qarTuli sabuTi `nasyidobis dawerili
favnelisa mRvimis monastrisadmi~
adasturebs. marTalia, es werilobiTi Zegli XIII saukunis xelnaweris
saxiTaa moRweuli, magram IX-X saukuneSia Seqmnili. es TavisTavad imaze migvaniSnebs, rom favnelebi kidev
ufro adre arabebTan brZolis dros
dawinaurebulan. samecniero literaturaSi aris Zalian seriozuli mo-
sazreba, rom favnelTa erTi Sto
frone-liaxvis sanaxebSi, sofel tbeTis SemogarenSi saxldeba da tbel
erisTav-erisTavTa uZlieres dinastias qmnis IX saukunis miwurulidan.
swored am dinastiis erT-erTi warmomadgenelia is qavTar tbeli, romelic X saukunis bolos bagrat IIIis qarTlSi gamefebas win aRudga,
magram damarcxda. ibadeba aseTi eWvi:
saxeli qavTari, romelic uTuod qavTa-kkavTas ukavSirdeba da tradiciulia tbelTa dinastiaSi, TeZamze
mcxovrebi favnelebis kavTis wminda
giorgis xatisadmi yma-kkuTvnilebis
mimaniSnebeli xom ar aris? da kidev,
favnisis nasoflarSi mdgari wminda
giorgis eklesia SemTxveviT kavTis
wminda giorgis xatis erT-eerTi sabrZanisi xom ar iyo?
es eklesia gariyulidan samxreTaRmosavleTiT, naxevar kilometrSi
dgas Zvel sasaflaoze. igi nagebia
qviSaqviT, fleTili qviTa da SirimiT. favnisis taZari IX-X saukuneebis erT-erTi gamorCeuli darbazuli
saydaria CvenSi. igi sakmaod mozrdili da maRalia. XIII saukuneSi masze
samxreTidan ekvderi miuSenebiaT da
ZiriTad darbazSi dResac am dangreuli minaSenidan SeiZleba moxvedra.
taZris karis fasaduri TaRis cisfer arqivolts zeviT-qveviT grexili lilvebi dauyveba, maT Soris
darCenil areSi ki mozrdili asomTavruli grafemebiT Sesrulebuli
erTstriqoniani reliefuri warweraa. misi Sinaarsi dRemde daudgenelia. aRmosavleT fasadze sarkmlis
aqeT-iqiT, ori sxvadasxvanairi jvaria, zeviT, frontonSi ki gvels
kvercxi ukavia piriT.
favnisis wminda giorgis saydari
XII saukuneSi xelaxla mouxatavT,
magram CrdiloeT da samxreT kedlis
aRmosavleT monakveTis qveda registrebSi IX-X saukunis mxatvrobis
fragmentebi maincaa SemorCenili.
fo kuTvnileba gamxdara, mere ki Torel-javaxiSvilebsa da saakaZeebs wauRiaT. hoda, Cvenc saakaZeTa budisken
_ nostesken miveSurebiT.
am patara sofelSi mdgari ori
eklesia _ XVI-XVII saukuneebis `sameba~ da `RvTismSobeli~ axali aRdgenilia, koSkisTvis ki ufro adre
daubrunebiaT pirvandeli saxe. rogorc wina werilidan viciT, noste
ramdenjerme aaoxres qarTvelma Tavadebma, romelTa Soris yvelaze metad
giorgi saakaZis adrindeli `mokidebuli Zmebi~ da Tanamoazreni beruka
da qaixosro javaxiSvilebi aqtiurobdnen. mizezi am mtrobisa samefo
aznaur saakaZis arnaxuli dawinaureba da simdidre iyo. akademikos S.mesxias gaangariSebiT, didi mouravis
wliuri Semosavali martooden fulis saxiT 3-4 aTas maneTs aRwevda.
magram javaxiSvilTa gadamterebas,
mgoni, sxva mizezic hqonda.ioli SesaZlebelia, rom saakaZeTa gvari TrialeTSi swored Torelebis (javaxiSvilTa Zveli gvari) Camoyvanili da
erT dros maTze damokidebulic ki
iyo. am versiis Sedgena giorgi saakaZis gardacvalebidan da qarTlSi
rostomis gamefebidan unda daviwyoT.
rostomi, sanam giorgis STamomavlebis erT nawils (ioramis Stos) Tavadobis xarisxs mianiWebda, saakaZeebs
vs, qarTveli didebulebic ratomRac
ucxourobas (`saucxoobas~) iCemebdnen. TavadTa Soris erT-erTi gamonaklisi am mxriv, sxvaTa Soris, Torel-javaxiSvilebi iyvnen, romlebic
TeZmis xeobaSi XII-XIII saukuneebSi
damkvidrdnen. swored maTi moyvanili
unda iyos samcxe-javaxeTidan saakaZeTa gvari, romelsac upatronod darCenili kldekari Caabares dasacavad.
saintereso da mravlismTqmelia is
faqti, rom qarTul saistorio wyaroebSi toponimi `noste~ qarTlze
gacilebiT adre swored samcxeSi
gvxvdeba. mas, rogorc mdinares, leonti mroveli oZrxesa da javaxeTs
Soris aTavsebs, roca bivritianis saqarTveloSi Semosvlaze saubrobs.
savaraudod, es mdinare amJamindeli
winubnis wyalia. ibadeba SekiTxva:
toponimi noste saakaZeebma xom ar
moitanes TeZamze samcxidan?
...nostedan erTawmindaSi mosaxvedrad gariyulaSi vbrundebiT, sadac adre gamogvrCa, axla ki aucileblad unda SeviaroT saakaZeTa
STamomavali TarxniSvilebis XIX saukunis 30-ian wlebSi agebul sasaxleSi. mas aqaurebi marSalianT saxlsac uwodeben (maSindel saqarTveloSi Tavad-aznaurTa sazogadoebis arCeul Tavkacs marSalsac arqmevdnen).
orsarTulian sasaxles garedan ev-
gariyula. TarxniSvilTa sasaxlis vitraJi da abano.
favsisi. `wminda giorgi~ da misi warweriani arqivolti.
ropuli, Signidan ki aSkara aRmosavluri ieri hqonia. aq mravali oTaxi,
svetebiani lojia da erTic didi, sazeimo darbazia. ezoSi gumbaTiani abanoebia SemorCenili. TarxniSvilebi
giorgis umcrosi vaJis ioramis memkvidreebi arian. akad. korneli kekeliZe werda: `didmouravs istoriuli dokumentebis mixedviT, hyavda
Semdegi Zeni: paata _ sparseTSi sikvdiliT dasjili mamis RalatisaTvis, avTandili (ufrosi Svili _
g.q.) _ mamasTan erTad osmaleTSi
tragikulad daRupuli, zurabi _ marabdis gmiri, romelsac 1643 wlis
axlo xanebSi rostom mefem RalatisaTvis Tvalebi dasTxara, ivane _ imave saqmis gamo kaxeTs gadaxvewili da
iorami _ didi erTguli rostom mefisa, romelsac Tarxnoba uboZa~. saakaZes 3 qaliSvilic hyolia, romelTagan (vaxtang sidamoniZis gamokvleviT) erTi mesxeTis gamahmadianebuli
aTabagis giorgi jayelis (igive farad-f
faSas) meuRle yofila, meore _
xazinadaosmaleTis xonTqaris vezir-x
risa, mesame visze iyo gaTxovili,
ucnobia. garda amisa, raki didi mouravis saxlze Camovarda sityva, isic
unda iTqvas, rom mamamisi siaoSi qarTlis mefis musahibi (musaifi, mrCeveli) iyo, biZamisi zurabi _ saxlTuxucesi, deda Tamari _ baraTaSvilebis qali, coli marexi _ nugzar
aragvis erisTavis qaliSvili. erTi
Zma qaixosro cnobilia, meoris saxeli sabuTebma ar Semoinaxa, Tumca
`didmouravianis~ mixedviT uZlieresi meomari yofila. mas sxertisa da
taSiskaris omebSi gamouCenia Tavi,
magram 1614 wels Sah-aabazis mier
warmoebul baRdadis omSi daRupula.
giorgi saakaZis sami didan arcerTis,
maT Soris luarsab II-z
ze gaTxovili
qarTlis umSvenieresi dedoflis saxeli, cnobili ar aris, Tumca is ki
dadgenilia, rom danarCeni ori didan
erTi qsnis erisTav ieses uTxovia,
meore _ Teimuraz muxran-bbatons.
am uzarmazari ojaxidan, romelic saxelmwifo interesebs Seewira
yvelaze metad mainc paatas umankoeba
anaTebs.
... erTawmindas movediT _ qarTveli eris wminda, saficar alagze.
erTawminda!
sxva saxelwodeba ver igua enam,
ase motrialda, ase gamoTqva sityva
`estatewminda~ _ soflis centrSi
mdgari didi saydris saxeli. gulma
gadawyvita ase da enam daagvirista.
es saydari XIII saukunis dasawyisis saqarTvelos jvar-gumbaTovani
taZrebis ali-kvalia: Tlili, oqrosferi qviSaqvis kvadrebi, aRmosavleT
mklavis niSebiani fasadi, oTxsave
mklavze _ maRali jvrebi, Sewyvilebuli sarkmlebi, nacnobi samkaulebi
da gaformeba. erTi esaa mxolod _
aRmosavleT mklavze Cveulebrivze
meti sarkmelia da taZris kedlebs
mTel gayolebaze frizi gasdevs. SigniT CrdiloeT kedelze XVII saukunis freskebia _ wminda estates
cxovrebis epizodebia. magram taZari
ufro didi cxovrebis epizods gvaxsenebs _ giorgis Svils paatas Tavi
mokveTes samSoblos siyvarulisTvis.
saakaZeTa am saZvale taZarSia davanebuli paatas mokveTili Tavi.
aq, am adgilze erTi kelaptari
rom Caqreba, meores SeaSveleben
xolme.
...gadaReba swored am wminda alagidan unda daviwyoT, magram, Cvenda
gasaocrad, videokamera ar irTveba.
aseTi ram arcerT eklesiaSi ar dagvmarTnia.
kandelze Camwvari patruqis
kvamls mzis sxivi daswvda da gaaspetaka... RvTismSoblis xatTan patara,
Tavsafriani gogo dgas da locvas
butbutebs... amen!
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winaswar iyo ganwiruli; samagierod xalxs, sakuTari gamarjvebebisa da damarcxebebis
nacvlad, didi germaniisa da
ariuli
rasis
hegemoniis
rwmena SesTavazes. “
dRevandeli qarTveli aihmanebisa da gebelsebis gegma:
1. arsebuli ganaTlebis sitemiT, masiuri uvicobis danergva, bneli da SemdgomSi gafanatebuli masebis
ukeT samarTavad;
2. momavlisadmi nihilizmi
da uimedoba;
3. dabeCavebuli ekonomika.
SeTavazeba ususuri:
1. pirveli msoflioSi,
pirveli regionSi, qarTuli
yvelaferi kargia, eklesia
araCveulebrivia, qarTuli rasa msoflioSi uniWieresi da
pirvelia da msgavsi dabali
donis ideologiiT ukiTxi masebis Tvinis gamoWedva da
zombireba, isteriaSi ”miSa,
miSas” Zaxili da Rriali!!!
Zalzed saSiS TamaSs TamaSobT batonebo! am qveynad dagaviwydaT, rom Tqvenze Wkvianebic arian!
absoluturi darwmunebiT viciT yvelam, rom miSa arCevnebs gaayalbebs! terori dawyebulia 2007wlidan, teroriT, mosyidviT, saxelisuflo resursis gamoyenebiT, patimrebis ojaxebze
zewoliT.....! am logikiT, gayalbebul arCevnebzec ar SeiZleba quCaSi gasvla, anu miSas gavugzavniT Semdeg videomimarTvas, imave teqstiT, rasac aqamde vugzavnidiT. Semdeg SevxvdebiT elCebs, arasamTavroboebs......... da davelodebiT momdevno arCevnebs im
molodiniT, rom miSa demokratiul arCevnebs Caatarebs.
:)
mec did survili
maqvs, ise SevcvaloT
xelisufleba, rom
yvela saRsalamaTi
davrCeT. magram kargad viciT,
rom realurad ase ar xdeba
xolme. aris xalxi, visac guli ar uTmens da me maTTvis
minimum is SemiZlia gavakeTo,
rom pativiscema mainc gamovxato, rom Tavis Tavze iReben
im dartymas, maT gareSe me
rom brmad momxvdeboda.
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aris! aRsrulda samarTali! varsqen pitiaxSi gaskvanCulia,
obama miSas Sexvda,
Statebis lideri gazeTi ki
statias uZRvnis biZina ivaniSvils... gamokiTxvis Sedegebi
rom ara arCevnebSi nacionalebi damarcxdebodnen... cotaaaac, cotac moiTmine tanjulo
ero... Seni mzec gamobrwyindeba....
obama miSas 15 wuTi
Sexvdeba Turme.... rafer moaswrebs Sadrevnebze, stadionebze da ambulatoriebze laparaks miSiko Cveni?
es dedaarRnianebi,
sakuTar
manqanaSi
tanzemoT SiSveli
rom daginaxos saWesTan patrulma 50 larian jarimas gamogiwers da TeatrSi
sasqeso organos tunturi ar
isjeba kanoniT???!!! amitom gaagdes sturua rusTavelis Teatridan rom SiSvlebs etantalaT da erTmaneTis genetaliebi “krialosaniviT” xlSi
eTamaSebinaT???
xalxno da jamaaTno!
minda icodeT da yvelam erTi rame SevignoT, rom saqarTveloSi, mimdinareobs faSisturi ideologiis danergvis
procesi. es SemTxveviTi movlena ar gegonoT, yvelaferi
winaswar aris dagegmili da
daaxlovebiT imave sqemiT,
oRond modernizebuli gziT
xorcieldeba, rogorc adolf
hitleris germaniaSi. ideologiuri safuZvlebic igivea,
oRond gauTvicnobierebeli
masisTvis saxecvlili! minda
mogiyvanoT erTi citata, romelic hitleris hegemoniis
dros musirebda evropaSi
hitleruli ideologiis Sesaxeb:
“ramodenime
wlis
Semdeg paTologiurma geniam, romelic
uvicobas da bednierebsadmi SiSs yvelaze efeqturad iyenebda, “gmiruli
TviTaRkveTis” lozungiT, evropa daRupvis piras miiyvana”.
sxva sityvebiT, germanelebs
sakuTari Tavis daviwyeba SesTavazes, im sababiT, rom es
maT viTom araframde ar miiyvanda da warumateblobisTvis,
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atexes amaT erTi ambavi _ putanebi xarT da Tqveni saqme akeTeTo. Caeria dacva, ganimuxta situacia, Tumca erT-erTi moCxubari karga xani burdRunebda, sabozaod Tu ar Camovidnen, aba, aq ra
undaTo. ucnauria, _ gavifiqre
CemTvis, _ meZavs ar aqvs ufleba
Cveulebriv moqalaqesaviT dajdes, daisvenos, dro gaataros? es
Cveni mentalitetia Tu sxvaganac
xdeba? _ vifiqre, vifiqre da wavedi Cemi saqmis gasakeTeblad.
magram erTxel erTma faqtma
gamaogna: Camovida Suaxnis qali,
adre myavda ramdenjerme nanaxi.
meZavi gaxldaT, sakmaod `Sebertyvili~. klientebs Tavis nebaze
arCevda. kargad SeaTvalierebda,
aswor-daswonida visTan rogor,
Rirda da ise mihyveboda an ar
mihyveboda. amJamad Cemi yuradReba miiqcia iman, rom 16-17 wlis
gogonasTan erTad Camovida. `mamaSac yofila~, _ gavifiqre. vxedav, midian klientebi, esec esaubreba, acnobs im gogonasac, magram marto gahyva imaT. ase ganmeorda ramdenjerme. mere ukve erTadac daiwyes siaruli. damain-
xalxis azriT
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demokrati da mimtevebeli viyavi
da var. vTvli, rom aravin unda
ganikiTxo, unda Sexvide yvelas
mdgomareobaSi, magram aq muSaoba
rom daviwye da nebiTa Tu uneblied Ramis cxovrebas gavecani,
bevri ram cota ar iyos, SokSi
magdebda. mogexsenebaT, Cemi TaobisTvis axla bevri ram cota gaugebari da miuRebelia. samwuxarod dro male gadis da cvlis
yvelafers.
Ramis klubi CemTvis xmamaRal
musikasTan da cekvasTan asocirdeboda, narkotikis Sesaxebac gamego, magram es kidev raa.
jer gamiWirda Segueba im azrTan, rom Rameebi unda meTenebina, magram unda Sevguebodi, sxva
gza ar iyo. direqtorma amixsna
ra, rogor unda gamekeTebina da
daviwye muSaoba. gamovcxaddi Cems
pirvel samuSao Rames. 10 saaTisTvis xalxma daiwyo mosvla, CairTo xmamaRali musika. ase 12 saaTisTvis Camodis ori axalgazrda gogona, gaixades paltoebi,
Signidan Txlad, zafxulis sezonis Sesaferisad iyvnen Cacmuli.
gavidnen sacekvao moedanze, gadaexvivnen erTmaneTs da daiwyes zasaoba. garSemo stvenis da aRfrTovanebis gamomxatveli SeZaxilebis xma gaisma. mere rogorc
gavige, es maTi Cveuleba yofila.
meZavebi arian da klubSi Casvlisas amgvarad iqceven yuradRebas,
meTodi hqoniaT aseTi.
pirvelma Sokma rom gamiara,
bevr ramesTan nel-nela daviwye
Segueba. madloba RmerTs, koleqtivi kargi aRmoCnda, megobruli.
RamiT muSaobasac SeveCvie. samwu-
teresa am orma qalma da TanamSromel oficiants, romelic xSirad emsaxureboda maT magidas,
vkiTxe: vin arian eseni, qali gogos `mamaSaa~ Tu ubralod, kolegebi arian-meTqi. deda-Sviliao, _ mipasuxa. aman xom mTlad
SokSi Camagdo; rogor deda-Svili, _ vekiTxebi, es xo, meZavia,
magram Svils raRa unda aq?
icis? _ icis ki ara, gakveTilebs
utarebs _ miviRe pasuxi, `saswavleblad moiyvana. unda mogasmenina, rogor uxsnis, elaparakeba, aswavlis kacis fsiqologias.
aswavlis rogor unda SearCios
klienti, gaesaubros, Tu saWiro
gaxda CamoiSoros da a.S. TviTon
kargad Soulobs amiTi albaT da
Svilsac aswavlis sarfian saqmes.
Svilic dahyva ase iolad? _ aRSfoTebas ver vmalav, _ aseT rames Svilebs umalaven, aman ki
moswavled ayvana? sxva rame Seaswavlos am upatronom... eh, marine, _ meubneba TanamSromeli, _
es SenTvisaa aRmaSfoTebeli, Torem amisTvis mTeli xelobaa da
saWirod Tvlis Svilmac icodes.
umuSevrobis SiSi ar eqneba, garegnobac uwyobs xels. amasac
iTvaliswinebs deda, xom xedav,
orives, rom ityvian, `sasaqonlo
Sexeduleba~ aqvs.
es ki metismeti iyo. zemoTac
mogaxseneT, ise viyavi aRzrdili,
bevri ram miuRebeli iyo CemTvis,
aqaurobam ki cxovrebis bevri bneli mxare damanaxa, magram aseT
rames ar velodi, qarTveli qali
Svils meZavis xelobas aswavlis?
amas xom qarTveli ki ara, bevri
ar unda kadrulobdes. neta, adrec xdeboda CvenSi msgavsi ram
Tu totalurma gaWirvebam da
umuSevrobam moitana? magram yvelafers xom Tavisi sazRvari
aqvs...
me ki vfiqrobdi ase, magram
movlenebi Tavisi gziT midioda,
dedas mohyavda Svili gakveTilebze, isic kargi moswavle gamodga.
hoda, Seuberavdnen xolme dedaSvili erTad. `es xom jer kidev
bavSvia~ _ mainc vfiqrobdi CemTvis, _ iqneb rogor wasuliyo amisi cxovreba. am Zroxam akeTos
Tavisi saqme, magram Svils Tavi
daanebos. mcirewlovani meZavebis
momravleba ukve meore aTaswleulia CvenTvis problemaa da axla
mSoblebmac dauwyiaT SvilebisTvis `mamaSoba~!
meoTxe welia aq vmuSaob. aRaraferi mikvirs, aRaravis ganvsji.
erTi ram SemiZlia aRvniSno: veravin gagvakvirvebs verc meZavebiT, verc gei-paradebiT da verc
verafriT. ucxoelebis gansjagankiTxvis dro gavida. cudSi
aravis CamovrCebiT. rogorc erTi
kargi kaci ityoda: `am qalaqSi
yvelaferi mosula~.
Tamuna qadagiZe
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marine: `40 wlis gaxlavarT. am droisaTvis dakarguli
Taobis warmomadgeneli. Cemi meuRle. 4 wliT ufrosia Cemze.
ori Svili gvyavs. saSineli periodi gamoviare. mogexsenebaT, ramdeni ram sWirdeba ojaxs. aseve
damemarTa mec. amitom bevri wvalebis mere rac viSoveT, RmerTs
amazec madloba vuTxariT. meuRlem rigiT muSad daiwyo muSaoba,
me damlageblis adgili viSove
erT-erT klubSi.
sakmaod konservatorul ojaxSi var gazrdili, mkacri mSoblebi myavda. bunebiT yovelTvis
xarod, xSirad atydeboda xolme
Cxubi. mikvirda erTi ram: am Cxubis mizezi Zalian xSirad meZavebi aRmoCndebodnen xolme.
klubSi muSaobamde am kategoriis adamianebTan Sexeba ar mqonia, axla davuaxlovdi kidec. meZavebi Cveni mudmivi klientebi iyvnen da Tavis klientebs eZebdnen.
zogierTs hyavda mudmivi klientic. vxedav erTxel, erT-erTi
Cemi nacnobi meZavi zis magidasTan, luds svamda, mere Cargo Tavi xelebSi, zis ase. mivedi, cudad xom ar xar-meTqi. `miyvars!~
_ SemomZaxa da ise aswia Tavi.
tiroda. Semecoda, davamSvide. ra
unda meTqva. Turme mudmivi klientebi xSirad uyvardebaT da rogorc yvela qali, isinic raRacas
elian.
saunis mepatrone Camovida erTxel TanamSromeli gogonebTan
erTad. klientebis mizidva ar ganuzraxavT, dasasveneblad da
drois gasatareblad Camovidnen.
mivida erTi-ori tipi, fuli SesTavazes, imaTma Tavidan moiSores.
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qarTveli qalebis umravlesoba samSoblosa Tu sazR
RvargareT
prostituciiT irCens Tavs, es
siaxle ar gaxlavT, magram bevrma ar icis, rom am codnas Tu xelobas qarTveli dedebi Svilebs
gadascemen...
magaliTad moviyvanT qarTveli
qalbatonis monaTxrobs, romelic
TbilisSi erT-eerT cnobil klubSi muSaobs.
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prostitucia legalizebulia _
xeloba Taobidan Taobas gadaecema
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#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
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maT keramika ,,daemarTaT~
mogonebebiT
savse bina
Cven alde kakabaZis stumrebi
varT. aqauroba sami saukunis _
mecxrametes bolo aTwleulebidan dRemde _ mogonebebiTaa damuxtuli. maRalSublian maspinZels gancdili naoWebad damCnevia.
_ dila rom Tendeba da
Tvals vaxel, madlobas vambob,
radgan vinmes rom eTqva, aqamde
icocxlebo, gamecineboda. marTla genialuri sityva gvaqvs qarTvelebs _ wuTisofeli. mihris
da verafers izam. dedas arqivi
literaturis muzeums gadaveci.
minda, yvelafers Tavisi adgili
mivuCino. ai, es suraTebic: erTi
papaCemis biZa solomon mrevliSvilia, urologiis doqtori, meore papas Zma sosiko mrevliSvili, ,,kakanaTis~
avtori, sxvadasxva fsevdonimiT ibeWdeboda. uamravi masala, foto da slaidi maqvs.
_ brZenTaTvis niSandoblivi
ubraloebiT Semkul saubars
qalbatoni alde SigadaSig
,,genacvaleTi~ aTbobs.
_ deda dRisiT sul dakavebuli iyo, jer Jurnal
,,pionerSi”, Semdeg ,,dilaSi~, Sin RamiT muSaobda, maSin werda leqsebs, Targmnida Sarl de kosteris
,,ulenSpigels~. mkiTxvelisTvis mxolod misi sabavSvo
poeziaa cnobili, Torem
iciT rogori leqsebi aqvs?
es iyo mZime Sroma. saojaxo
saqmeebsac uZRveboda, Zalian
marjve iyo diasaxlisobaSi
da Tqven warmoidgineT, CaquCsac moxerxebulad xmarobda,
uceb darabisgan Taros gaakeTebda. Cemi dis avadmyofobiT gawamebuli iyo, magram ar imCnevda.
xelidan gauSvebeli hqonda
,,vefxistyaosani~ da sulxan-saba. _ naxe ra sibrZnea, metyoda
xolme ,,vefxistyaosnis~’ frazebze, aracnobil aforizmebze.
maSin mikvirda, deda, ra, wakiTxuli ar maqvs-meTqi? magram
axla, roca Tavadac vkiTxulob
da vkiTxulob, sul axal-axal
sibrZnes vagneb.
ismen am saubars sabavSvo poeziis klasikosze _ mayvala
mrevliSvilze da yurSi xmianobs,,kikli-kkikli~, ,,Cito, Cito
nacara~... da vin icis, momavalSi
kidev ramdeni TaobisTvis asocirdeba misi leqsebi bavSvobis
Zvirfas mogonebebTan.
papa-b
bebia
mxatvari aleqsandre mrevliSvili mcxeTeli saeklesio
glexis ojaxSi daibada 1866
wels. Tbilisis sasuliero saswavlebelSi, sadac is swavlobda, xatva akrZaluli iyo, magram
rogor daiSlida xatvas? aRmzrdelma mose janaSvilma misi namuSevrebi wera-kkiTxvis gamavrce-
lebel sazogadoebaSi waiRo,
saidanac gamougzavnes saCuqrad aleqsandre beriZis reproduqcia warweriT _ ,,xatvis
moyvarul
axalgazr
aMaleqsandre mrevliSvils, iswavle da gaxdi samSoblosTvis
sasargeblo adamiani~. es sityvebi mxatvarma cxovrebis miznad iqcia, saswavleblad iyo
jer moskovSi, sadac daamTavra
ferwerisa da skulpturis skola, miiRo medlebi Tavisi namuSevrebisTvis. erT-eerTi iyo sadiplomod Sesrulebuli ,,golgoTa~, romelmac TavisTavadobiT
mxatvar ilia repinis aRfrTovaneba daimsaxura. xelmokleobis
gamo samSobloSi dabrunebuli
ecnoba glexebis mZime cxovrebas
da kvaldakval iqmneba cnobili
tiloebi: ,,dabali Robe~, ,,soflis kancelariasTan~, ,,kaloze~...
SesaZleblobisTanave,
parizSi
miemgzavreba, Jiulenis samxatvro akademiaSi samxatvro xelovnebis dasaxvewad. samSobloSi
dabrunebuli qorwindeba pelagia
avaliSvilze. SeeZinaT vaJi da
gogona.
_ papa ar maxsovs, me da Cemi tyupiscali da patarebi viyaviT, roca gardaicvala. saojaxo
arqivs SemorCa misi Canaxati
,,tyupebi” TandarTuli leqsiT
,,Cems gulis vardebs~. rac Seexeba bebos, is Zalian exmareboda
dedas Cvens aRzrdaSi. iyo metad
Sromismoyvare adamiani, ekaterine gabaSvilis Wra-kervis skola hqonda damTavrebuli. ,,xuTiani jvriT~ davamTavreo, Tavs
iwonebda da marTlac SesaniSnavi xelsaqme icoda. sxvebsac aswavlida. misi naqargobebi dRemde Semovinaxe, cxadia, zogi Seilaxa, magram Zalian minda, gadavce misi mSobliuri soflis _
breTis dedaTa monasters, sadac
Turme xelsaqmes aswavlian.
bebo meubneboda, rad ginda,
Svilo, samxatvroze rom Sedixar, kargi gogo xar da gagagiJebeno. meuRleze igonebda: idga
da xatavda. rom vetyodi, saSa,
puri gvaqvs sayideli, karga xnis
Semdeg gamomepasuxeboda: ,,batonoo?~ anu yofiTi ambebiT ar unda Seewuxebina. arc naxatebs
yidda arasdros. miuxedavad amisa, mis namuSevrebs ucnauri iRbali dahyvaT. jer moskovSi mi-
mavalma dakarga bargi da rac
mTavaria, ori albomi. mere, roca parizidan Camovida, Zalian
Bbevri tilo Camoitana, zeTSi
Sesrulebuli SiSveli figurebi
(Tedo saxokias aqvs SesaniSnavi
mogonebebi. parizSi papas oTaxi
hqonda da TavisTan miiRo Tedoc, iakob da niko nikolaZeebic). Camotanilma naxatebma gaavso kedlebi fuSfuSa qalebiTa
da lamazi xedebiT. rom Semovidnen ,,wiTlebi~, memamulis saxliao da jer kargad danayrdnen
da SezarxoSebulebma sul dacxriles yvela tilo.
bebia iyo garjis qali da
imaves maswavlida mec. Tavis
tkivils Tu daviwuwunebdi, maSinve wamlad saqmes ,,gamomiwerda~. es xasiaTad meqca da Cemi
cxovrebis yvelaze mZime gancdebs saqmiT vSvelodi. ar unda
gavCerebuliyavi, mTavari es iyo.
akademiis
aRmarTze
_ samxatvro akademiaze ar
mifiqria, guli cekvisken, cekvis
istoriisken miwevda. maSindeli
pionerTa sasaxlidan mzia
erisTavs davyavdiT saqarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxeSi.
mogzaurobebSi vakeTebdi
Canaxatebs, magram amas seriozulad ar vuyurebdi,
sxvaTa Soris, qarTlsa da
kaxeTSi vnaxeT, rogor
amohyavdaT Tixis WurWeli,
magram Tu am saqmesTan Sexeba meqneboda, sul ar mifiqria. es dedas gadawyvetileba iyo. griboedovis
aRmarTze, akademiisken deda
amiZRva, _ ambobs qalbatoni alde.
Zneli saTqmelia, am
aRmarTze deda miuZRveboda
qalbaton aldes Tu Tavad
bediswera, radgan 17 wlis
gogonas Semdgomi cxovreba
_ profesiulica da piradic _ samxatvro akademias,
mis garemos daukavSirda.
Cafiqrebul arqiteqturis
fakultetze miReba ar iyo, ukan
mobrunebulebs iqve, isev bedisweris elCiviT, mSvenieri qalbatoni, mwerali munia aRlaZe
(zurab niJaraZis mamida) SexvdaT
da keramikis fakultetze Sesvla urCia.
_ es iyo 1950 weli. medalosans sxva gamocdebs ar abarebinebdnen, mxolod xatvaSi unda
meyoCaRa, magram gamocdileba ar
mqonda. patara veluriviT viyavi,
SiSveli natura rom davinaxe,
sircxviliT yurebamde gavwiTldi da davibeni. sabolood, Caviricxe. iq damxvdnen pedagogebi,
romelTa garemoSi yofna, marto
sasargeblo ki ara, bedniereba
iyo: daviT ciciSvili, zaqaria
maisuraZe, sergo qobulaZe, SoTa
miqataZe, apolon quTaTelaZe..
ase Seudga aldiko kakabaZe,
cnobili mxatvris SviliSvili
da cnobili poetis Svili cxovrebis aRmarTs. ufrosebis Crdilidan gamosasvlelad movaleobis, pasuxismgeblobis tvirTs
gametebiT SeuSvira susti mxrebi da amiT ufro metad dauaxlovda Tavis saxelovan ojaxs.
studentoba ufro did siurprizsac umzadebda. akademiaSi
ufroskursel revaz iaSvilTan
nacnoboba bakurianSi, Txilamurebze srialSi TandaTan siyvarulad iqca, siyvaruli _ ojaxad. ojaxSi male vaJi daibada.
_ zRapariviT maxsendeba bakurianis ambebi. rezo brwyinvaled srialebda, aTamde axalgazrda TxilamurebiT borjomis
parkamde CavdiodiT. arc viRlebodiT, arc ramis gveSinoda. me
da rezo xuTi weli davdiodiT
(rogorc maSin ambobdnen). Zalian niWieri kaci iyo, iaSvilebisTvis niSandoblivi temperamentiT... saerTod, maSin akademiaSi
Zalian niWieri Taoba swavlobda: koki maxaraZe, mito xaxutaSvili, gogi ToTibaZe, lamara
danelia, guram gelovani... xatvis gakveTilebi maTTvis wminda
ritualiviT iyo, xmaurs ar apatiebdnen aravis. ,,naturSicebi~
leningradidan Camosuli qalebi
iyvnen, namdvili profesionalebi, rame SelazRandareba gamo-
ricxuli iyo. maxsovs,
koki maxaraZes ori dafa edga, marjveniTac
xatavda da marcxeniTac. pedagogebadac didi adamianebi gvyavdnen.
alde kakabaZem daamTavra akademia, Semdeg
aspirantura, magram saWiro iyo samsaxuri. gamomwvelis adgili gaTavisuflda da gadawyvita reqtorisTvis es
samuSao EeTxova. ,,rava,
SesZleb?” _ gaikvirva
apolon quTaTelaZem.
wlebi
samociani
axalgazrda meuRleebisTvis savsea SemoqmedebiTi warmatebebiT,
axali namuSevrebi, gamofenebi, konkursebi,
gamarjvebebi, akademiur
safexurebze winsvla.
da saSineli tragedia: 1967
wlis 14 oqtombers momxdar avtoavariaSi xerxemlis dazianebis gamo qveda kidurebis paralizeba rezo iaSvils invalidis
savarZelze ajaWvebs.
Seudreklobis
didi gakveTili
_ rezos ambavi moulodneli
dartyma iyo. pirveli Tavzardacemis Semdeg gavemgzavreT yaragandaSi, sadac zurgis tvinis
dazianebis mqoneTa samkurnalo
dawesebuleba iyo. sasowarkveTili kibis qveS vtirodi xolme,
erTxelac vxedav, modis maRali,
nacrisferTvalebiani rusis qali, uceremoniod mavlebs xels,
mivyavar katis knutiviT da Tan
meubneba: wamodiT, me Tqven Cems
qmars gaCvenebTo, SevdivarT meore derefnis palataSi. Turme, iq
wvanan kisris malebdazianebuli
mfrinavi-gamomcdelebi da meSaxteebi, romelTac aRarc xeli
emorCilebaT, aRarc fexi da
aRarc kiseri. qali isev mkacrad
meubneba: da Tqven kidev bedavT
tirils? axalgazrda viyavi, 34
wlis. am qalma damanaxa, rom
uaresi ubedurebac arsebobs. es
iyo erTgvari Semotrialeba CemTvis, gaazreba imisa, rom ,,usargeblo cremlTa dena~ ki ara,
cxovrebis gagrZeleba iyo saWiro..
mere, yirimSi Cagvyavda rezo
samkurnalod da iq vxvdebodiT
olga korbuts, msoflio Cempions tanvarjiSSi, romelmac sammagi salto gaakeTa, daeca da
saerTo gazeTi 23
#04 (188), 1-7.II, 2012 w.
daiziana xerxemali. es sicocxliT, silamaziT savse
gogona samudamod miejaWva
etls, dedam da mamam ver gauZles da gardaicvalnen. bebia daatarebda etliT. ar
damaviwydeba korbutis Tvalebi. is natvriT Sescqeroda
rezosnairebs,
romlebic
etls TviTon gadaaadgilebdnen. amitom vambob, rom cxovreba rasac Segaxvedrebs, ar
aris saWiro gansajo, es ratom damemarTa, me ratom damemarTa. me ase mewera, ambobda rezo.
maT axleburad gaagrZeles cxovreba. amaze garemocvamac izruna. akademiis reqtorma apolon quTaTelaZem
uyoymanod gadawyvita da
leqciebisTvis saxlSi gamougzavna studentebi. anagis quCidan
axal binaSi gadmovidnen, pirvel
sarTulze, radgan es moxerxebuli iyo rezosTvis. da saxli iqca akademiis ,,filialad”. kari ar
iketeboda, rezo isev TavdaviwyebiT muSaobda studentebTan. qmnida axal namuSevrebs. modiodnen
megobrebi, kolegebi, am saxlSi
`saerTo gazeTis~ iuridiuli konsultacia
`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvelTa SekiTxvebs pasuxobs gazeTis
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aseTive neba aRmoaCndeba meuRles,
Svils, samegobros, sazogadoebas.
Tu keramika
,,dagemarTa~
_ keramikis ganviTareba bevr
ramezea damokidebuli, es ar aris
ioli profesia, rom mxolod sasiamovno momentebi axldes. aq SemoqmedebiTi, fizikuri Zalisxmevis mTeli erTobliobaa saWiro,
,,..revaaz iaaSvilis daa misi meuRlis _ alde kaakaabaaZis wyaalobiT aRdgaa qaarTuli keraamikis mraavaali uZvelesi traadiciaa. revaaz iaaSvilis Semoqmedebaa Taanaamedrove qaarTul xelovnebaaSi mniSvnelovaaniaa, raadgaan saaetaapoaa _ swored aqedaan iwyebaa dRevaandeli qaarTuli keraamikis aRmaavlobaa daa aRorZinebaa.
revaazis mSvenierebisaadmi faaqizi wvdomaa, plaastikis utyuaari
SegrZnebaa saaSuaalebaas iZlevaa formebi daa moculobaani mTliani, Sekruli, haarmoniuli gaaxaados sivrceSi, raac specifikuriaa WeSmaariti keraamikisaaTvis. amaave dros, xelovaani yovel
formaas mis Sesaatyvis feraadovaan gaamaaSi aqcevs. es avtoris
niWierebaaze daa mis maarTaal mxaatvrul Semoqmedebaaze metyvelebs.”
moqaandaake merab berZeniSvili
sul mxatvrebi cxovrobdnen da
rezos marto ar stovebdnen. is
isev cxovrebis SuagulSi trialebda, isev gamofenebi, isev siaxleebis Zieba, isev warmatebebi..
misi udidesi mowadinebiT gaixsna
monumenturi keramikis ganxra.
_arasdros kmayofildeboda
miRweuliT. kargi ra, aldiko, es
Sebolili keramika raRaciT unda
SevcvaloTo.. aqvs uamravi Canaweri keramikis damuSavebis teqnologiebze. mindoda, wignad momeyara Tavi.. muSaobda axali teqnologiiT dekoratiul panoebze.
erTerTi
SesaniSnavi
pano
,,berikaoba”
cisfer galereaSi gamosafenad
waiRes. Tbilisis
omis
dros, afeTqebaze es namuSevaric Camoimsxvra. slaidiRa dagvrCa.
rezos
saqme
ataninebda yvelafers, sulierad is
Seupovari iyo, magram
rCeboda fizikuri problemebi,
romelTan gamklavebac advili ar
iyo. am mimarTebiT, gia mudam
gverdSi hyavda mamas da es misTvisac ar iyo ioli.
revaz iaSvilma travmis Semdeg TiTqmis ocdaaTi weli
icxovra, Tan icxovra sisxlsavse
cxovrebiT da amiT didi gakveTili dautova adamianebs, romelTac janmrTelobis problemebi
SeeqmnebaT.
es gakveTili sazogadoebasac
waadgeba, radgan erTi kacis nebisyofas maSin aqvs Zala, roca
gamowvis procesic gamocdaa, unda gauZlo. safrangeTis gamofenisTvis vemzadebodi da axali namuSevrebiT mindoda wardgoma.
qancgawyvetamde vmuSaobdi, CaitvirTa yvelaferi RumelSi da rom
gavxseniT, TiTqos joxiT daleweso, erTi ar amosula mTeli. amisTvisac mzad unda iyo. da miuxedavad yvelafrisa,Y rom ,,dagemarTeba” keramika, morCa, iq aRaraferi gagegeba, iseT moulodnel Sedegebs iZleva Tixa da cecxli,
aqedan Tavs veRar daaRwev. maxsovs safrangeTidan Camovidnen
da rom naxes Cveni samuSao garemo, gviTxres
_ Tqven etyoba,
imitom gamogdiT
aseTi namuSevrebi, arqaul pirobebSi
rom
muSaobTo. didi
mniSvneloba
aqvs gamosawvav
Rumels. wlebis
manZilze sul amas
gaviZaxodi, bolos
rom daminaxavdnen, ,,Rumeli “ modiso xumrobdnen.
Zalian guldaswyvetia, rom mcxeTis keramikuli skola aRar arsebobs, is akademiasTan Seiqmna da
Tavis saqmes asrulebda. saqarTvelos yvela kuTxidan Camosuli
gogo-biWebi swavlobdnen am tradiciul xelobas, visac swavlis
gagrZeleba undoda, agrZelebda.
pirvelad iqidan gavida Savkriala
keramika sazRvargareT suvenirebis saxiT, maxsovs, apolon quTaTelaZem Tqva, aqedan Semova valutao da zogma Caiqirqila. magram
namdvilad ase iyo.
nino kapanaZe
* * *
_ ra piradi uflebebi gaaC niaT meuRleebs?
_ daqorwinebis dros meuRleebs gaaCniaT piradi da qonebrivi uflebebi.
Tqven gainteresebT piradi
uflebebi:
daqorwinebis dros meuRleebs SeuZliaT, survilisamebr,
airCion erT-erTi meuRlis gvari (gvaris arCevis ufleba) TavianT saerTo gvarad an TiToeuls SeuZlia, daitovos Tavisi
qorwinebamdeli gvari, anda orives SeuZlia, SeuerTos
Tavisi gvari meuRlis
gvars. gvarebis SeerTeba
mxolod im SemTxvevaSi
ar SeiZleba, Tu orive
meuRles an erT-erTs,
ukve ormagi gvari aqvs.
meuRleebi sruli TanasworobiT sargebloben
Svilebis aRzrdisa da
ojaxis sxva sakiTxebis
gadawyvetisas.
TiToeul meuRles,
Tavisuflad
SeuZlia
airCios saqmianoba da
profesia. aseve, Tavisi
Sexedulebisamebr, airCios sacxovrebeli adgili, Tu es
ukanaskneli ar ewinaaRmdegeba
ojaxis interesebs.
* * *
_ qorwinebis Sewyvetis Sem deg rogor xdeba saerTo qone bis gayofa?
_ meuRleTa saerTo sakuTrebaSi Tanabaria. am wesidan arsebobs ramdenime gamonaklisi.
kerZod, erT-erTi meuRlis wili SeiZleba gadiddes imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom:
a) masTan cxovroben arasrulwlovani Svilebi;
b) is Sromisuunaroa;
g) Tu meore meuRle qonebas
ojaxis interesebis sazianod
xarjavda.
sasamarTlo gansazRvravs,
Tu romeli nivTi romel meuRles unda miekuTvnos. profesiuli saqmianobisaTvis saWiro
nivTebi, rogoricaa musikaluri
instrumentebi, saeqimo mowyobiloba da sxva, Tundac meuRleTa saerTo saxsrebiT iyos SeZenili, mainc im meuRles gadaecema, romelsac isini Tavisi profesiuli saqmianobisTvis sWirdeba.
Tuki saerTo qonebis gayofisas erT-erT meuRles gadaecema
iseTi nivTebi, romelTa Rirebulebac mis kuTvnil wils aRemateba, maSin meore meuRles miecema Sesabamisi fuladi an sxvagvari kompensacia.
meuRleTa saerTo valebi maT
Soris iyofa saerTo qonebaSi
TiToeulis kuTvnili wilis Tanazomierad. Tuki vali mxolod
erTma meuRlem aiRo, saerTo qonebidan misi gadaxda SeiZleba
mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tuki sasamarTlo daadgens, rom aRebuli vali gamoyenebuli iyo mTeli ojaxis saerTo interesebisTvis.
aseve, erT-erTi meuRlis danaSauliT miyenebuli zianis
anazRaureba saerTo qonebidan
mxolod maSin SeiZleba, Tuki
dadgindeba, rom es qoneba danaSaulis Cadenis Sedegad miRebuli saxsrebiT iyo SeZenili.
ganqorwinebis Semdeg meuRleebs saerTo qonebis gayofis
moTxovna SeuZliaT ganqorwinebidan sami wlis ganmavlobaSi.
Tuki es sami weli ise gavida,
rom meuRles ar ganucxadebia
araviTari pretenzia saerTo qonebaze, Semdgom misi moTxovna
CaiTvleba dagvianebulad.
vapireb, meuRlesTan saqorwino xelSekrulebis gaformebas. gTxovT, gangvimartoT, ra
saxis ufleba-movaleobebis gansazRvra SeiZleba an ar SeiZleba saqorwino xelSekrulebiT?
_ amgvari saxis SekiTxva
xSirad Semodis `saerTo gazeTis~ redaqciaSi. Tqven iTxovT
saqorwino xelSekrulebis pirobebis srulyofilad ganmartebas. mogaxsenebT:
saqorwino xelSekrulebiT
mxolod qonebrivi ufleba-movaleobebis gansazRvra SeiZleba.
xelSekrulebiT ar SeiZleba Seicvalos meuRleTa piradi uflebebi da movaleobebi.
saqorwino
xelSekruleba
ideba werilobiT da unda dadasturdes notariulad.
xelSekrulebiT meuRleebma
SeiZleba gansazRvron, rogorc
ukve arsebuli, ise momavalSi
SeZenili qonebis bedi. maT SeuZliaT, gaaerTianon mTeli Tavisi
qoneba an daadginon TiToeulis
wilobrivi an gancalkevebuli
sakuTreba qonebaze.
xelSekrulebiT, aseve, gaTvaliswinebuli SeiZleba iyos TiToTeuli meuRlis mier SemosavalSi monawileobis pirobebi,
saojaxo xarjebis gawevis wesebi
da aseve, Tu vin ra qonebas miiRebs ganqorwinebis Semdeg.
saqorwino xelSekrulebiT
ar SeiZleba Seicvalos:
1. meuRleTa urTierTrCenis
movaleoba;
2. mSoblebis ufleba-movaleobebi Svilebis mimarT;
3. saalimento movaleobani;
4. davis SemTxvevaSi _ sasamarTlosadmi mimarTvis ufleba.
aseve, xelSekrulebis Secvla dasaSvebia Tuki meuRleebi
amaze SeTanxmdnen. garda amisa,
SesaZlebelia, aseve, dainteresebuli mxaris gancxadebis safuZvelze, sasamarTlom Secvalos
saqorwino xelSekrulebis is pirobebi, romlebic ukiduresad
araxelsayrel
mdgomareobaSi
ayenebs romelime meuRles.
saqorwino
xelSekruleba
SeiZleba daidos rogorc qorwinebis registraciamde, ise registraciis Semdeg, nebismier
dros. Tuki xelSekruleba qorwinebis registraciamde daido,
igi ZalaSi mxolod registraciis momentidan Seva.
saqorwino
xelSekruleba
wydeba meuRleTa urTierTSeTanxmebiT an ganqorwinebiT.
* * *
_ Cemi qaliSvili apirebs
ganqorwinebas meuRlesTan. hyavT
erTi mcirewlovani vaJi. CvenTvis
cnobili gaxda, rom ganqorwineba,
miuxedavad, mcirewlovani Svilis yolisa, SeiZleba moxdes sasamarTlos gareSe.
aris Tu ara es ase da rogor xdeba?
_ diax. SesaZlebelia
Tqveni qaliSvilis SemTxvevaSi ganqorwineba moxdes
sasamarTlos gareSe, Tu
meuRleebs Soris ar arsebobs raime saxis dava. dagikonkretebT:
kanoni icnobs ganqorwinebis or wess:
1. ganqorwineba sasamarTlos gziT;
2. ganqorwineba samoqalaqo reestris saagentos
teritoriul samsaxurSi.
sasamarTlos Careva saWiroa
mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tuki meuRleebs Soris arsebobs raime
saxis dava _ qonebrivi, SvilebTan dakavSirebiT da a.S. romelsac isini urTierTSeTanxmebiT
ver wyveten.
xolo Tuki meuRleebi Tanxmdebian ganqorwinebasa da mis piroebebze, maSin sasamarTlosadmi
mimarTva saWiro ar aris da ganqorwineba xdeba ubralod, gancxadebis SetaniT, samoqalaqo
reestris saagentos teritoriul samsaxurSi, gancxadebis Setanis dRidan 15 samuSao dRis
gasvlis Semdeg.
momsaxurebis safasuri gaxlavT 45 lari.
* * *
_ Cems qaliSvils SeeZina va Ji araregistrirebuli qorwine bidan. mamoba aRiarebuli iqna
sasamarTlo wesiT. miuxedavad
amisa, mama ar apirebs Tavisi mo valeobis Sesrulebas. rogor
moviqceT?
_ rogorc Cans, bavSvis mamis
nebayoflobiT ar surda mamobis
aRiareba da es yvelaferi moxda
sasamarTlos meSveobiT.
rogor unda moiqceT. es
Tqveni gadasawyvetia, me ki erTi
ramis Tqma SemiZlia. Tuki sasamarTlom daadgina mamoba, miuxedavad mamis survilisa, bavSvs
warmoeSoba yvela ufleba-movaleoba, rogorc mamis, ise sxva
naTesavebis mimarT, rac kanonmdeblobiTaa gaTvaliswinebuli.
mama valdebulia gadaixados
alimenti Tu sasamarTlom daakisra alimentis gadaxda; mama
valdebulia, monawileoba miiRos SvilTan dakavSirebul damatebiT xarjebSi da a.S. da bolos, Tqveni Svili aris misi I
rigis memkvidre.
CMYK
24 saerTo gazeTi
saintereso ambebi
medikosebi darwmundnen:
kibos warmomSobi faqtori
TviT adamianis organizmSia
amerikeli mecnierebi darwmunebuli arian, rom mravali mZime daavadebis mizezi adamianis fsiqikaa.
hiustonis universitetis mecnierebma ukve daamtkices, rom
depresia da xangrZlivi stresi kibos gamomwvevi mTavari faqtoria.
mecnierebi irwmunebian, rom adamianebs, romlebmac mZime depresiuli mdgomareoba gadaitanes, sisxlSi proteinis done
umaRldebaT. proteini ki kibos ujredebis ganviTarebas da metastazebis warmoSobas uwyobs xels. im adamianebis organizmSi, romlebmac xangrZlivi stresis periodebi gaiares norepinefrini warmoiSoba. es ki aCqarebs im ujredebis ganviTarebas,
romlebic avTvisebiani simsivneebis SemadgenlobaSia.
cnobilia, rom, rodesac adamiani mZime fsiqologiur mdgomareobaSia, tvini iZleva signalebs organizmis TiToeuli ujredisken. signalebi avTvisebiani ujredebiskenac midis da aaqtiurebs da aZlierebs mas. depresiulebs ufro didi Sansi aqvT
daavaddnen, vidre maT, visTvisac `yvelaferi sulerTia~.
mecnierebi gvirCeven, visac mudmivi emociuri stresi gawuxebT, cota ifiqreT da gaixareT cxovrebiT.
eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSeneblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pirvelwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali SegewevaT.
bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.
rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda
gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarTvelno erTad RvTisaken.
RmerTma daglocoT da gagaZlieroT!
dedamiwaze `Savi xvrelebi~ Cndeba
`Savi xvreli~ diametriT 21,5 metri da siRrmiT 31 metri
moulodnelad warmoiqmna gvatemalis dedaqalaqSi.
SemTxveva qalaqis centrSi moxda, sadac patara sacxovrebeli korpusi da da saofise nagebobebi iyo.
miwa nel-nela ramdenime wuTs moZraobda qveviTken, ris gamoc SenobaSi myofma macxovreblebma saxlidan gamosvla moaxerxes.
ofisebSi ki aravin iyo, radgan, bedad, es araCveulebrivi
SemTxveva dasvenebis dRes daemTxva.
ar gaumarTla mxolod erT policiels. igi SemTxvevis adgilas patrulirebda da ufskrulma miwaSi Caitana.
gvatemalaSi aseTi SemTxvevebi arc ise iSviaTia, magram am
siRrmis ufskruli jer ar unaxavT. miiCneven, rom am saSineli
SemTxvevis gamomwvevi mizezi tropikuli Stormi `agataa~,
Stormebi da grigali, rac iwvevs gruntis wylebis cirkulacias, Semdeg gvatemalis teritoriaze giganturi ormoebis gaCenas uwyobs xels. `ormoebi~ xSirad 100 metrs aRwevs.
okeanis siRrmeSi jerarnaxuli
arsebebi aRmoaCines
zRvisa da okeaneebs siRrmeebi ganagrZobs mecnierebis gaocebas. gasuli wlis bolos aSS-is skripsis universitetis okeanologebma marianis Rrmulis yvelaze miuval adgilas mecnierebisTvis ucnobi arsebebi SeamCnies. 2011 wlis zafxulSi
wynar okeaneSi specialuri eqspedicia gaigzavna. mecnierebs ufro kvalificiurad unda SeeswavlaT marianis Rrmuli, romelic 11 kilometri siRrmisaa.
iRebdnen
okeanis siRrmidan florisa
da faunis nimuSebs da institutSi agzavnidnen. kvlevebi Tveebis ganmavlobaSi mimdinareobda, mecnierebi eWvobdnen, rom marianis
Rrmuli
aqamde
ucnob
informacias
inaxavda. mkvlevarebi ar Semcdaran. maT cocxali arsebebi aRmoaCines Rrmulis ukidures siRrmeSi 10,6 km-ze. es, faqtobrivad, dedamiwaze okeanis yvelaze didi siRrmea, sadac ar aRwevs mzis sxivi,
Jangbadis raodenoba Zalian mcirea, maRalia wneva, magram aRmoCnda, rom TviT aseT araxelsayrel viTarebaSic ki SesaZlebeli yofila sicocxlis arseboba. mecnierebma 10,6 km siRrmeSi giganturi amebebi aRmoaCines, adrindeli kvlevebi eyrdnoboda 7,7km siRmis Seswavlisas mopovebul monacemebs.
ameba, ase Tu ise, Seswavlili organizmia, magram giganturi
amebebi gansakuTrebuli dakvirvebis sagani gaxda. erTujrediani amebebi mxolod laboratoriulad, mikroskopuli dakvirvebisas Cans, okeaneSi aRmoCenili organizmebi ki 10 sm da metisaa da SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac kargad ixilveba. axalaRmoCenil arsebebs mecnierebma JReradi saxeli qsenofioforebi uwodes.
okeanis siRrmeSi uaxlesi teqnologiiT Seqmnili danadgarebi da specialuri videokamerebic Caitanes kvlevisTvis, radgan giganturi amebebis garda sxva iseTi wylis binadarni SeamCnies, romelTa arseboba 21-e saukunis mecnierebisTvis cnobili ar iyo.
moamzada ana vadaWkoriam
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astrologiuri
prognozi
verZi _ kargi periodi
geliT. mogecemaT saSualeba warmatebas advilad miaRwioT. gansakuTrebuli
yuradReba saqmian Sexvedrebs
dauTmeT.
kuro _ Tqvens cxovrebaSi saintereso movlenebi ganviTardeba gansakuTrebuli warmateba kviris dasawyisSi geliT. yuradReba gaamaxvileT saojaxo saqmeebze.
tyupebi _ win aqtiuri periodi geliT, romelic saukeTesoa axali
ideebis gansaxorcieleblad.
axal sasiyvarulo urTierTobebs erideT, Zveli urTierTobebi gaamyareT.
kirCxibi _ kargi iqneba, Tu am periodSi sakuTar imijze izrunebT
da profilaqtikur mkurnalobasac CaitarebT. ecadeT, maqsimalurad aqtiuri iyoT.
lomi _ Tavs movlenebis epicentrSi igrZnobT. ecadeT, gonebis
koncentracia erT saqmeze moaxdinoT. frTxilad iyaviT, saqmem ise ar gagitacoT, rom sayvareli adamiani uyuradRebod
dagrCeT.
qalwuli _ kargi iqneba, Tu axal saqmianobas wamoiwyebT. drodadro izruneT dasvenebazec. sifrTxile gmarTebT ojaxur
urTierTobebSi.
saswori _ Tqvens
cxovrebaSi saukeTeso
periodi dadga. ecadeT,
iRbali xelidan ar gauSvaT.
swored am periodSi dasaxeT
momavlis gegmebi.
morieli _ valis
aRebas erideT. Tu maqsimalurad ar xarT darwmunebuli sakuTar gadawyvetilebaSi, saqmian qaRaldebze
xelis moweras nu iCqarebT.
mSvildosani _ energiis mozRvavebas igrZnobT. sifrTxile gamoiCineT, raTa rTul situaciaSi
ar aRmoCndeT. xelmZRvanelobasTan urTierToba Tqvens karieraze karg zegavlenas moaxdens.
Txis rqa _ erTi SexedviT SeiZleba, rTul
periodad mogeCvenoT, magram Tu sakuTari Zalebis mobilizebas moaxdenT, problemebis iolad daZlevas SeZlebT.
amas marto nu ecdebiT, kolegebic daixmareT.
merwyuli _ am periodSi siyvarulSi vnebaTaRelvaa mosalodneli,
ris gamoc SeiZleba uamravi sisulelec ki CaidinoT. ojaxis
Seqmnis albaToba didia.
Tevzebi _ am periodSi sayvarel adamianebTan konfliqturi situaciebis albaToba imatebs.
amitom kargia, Tu mTlianad saqmeze moaxdenT koncentrireas
an mivlinebaSi gaemgzavrebiT.
sakuTari gegmebis Sesaxeb xmamaRla nu isaubrebT.
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erTi wlis bavSvma gvels `ukbina~
israelis qalaq SfaramSi erTi wlis biWunam gvels Tavze ukbina. rogorc ki pataras deda imada garida oTaxSi Sevida rZiani TefSiT xelSi, maSin dainaxa iatakze TavgaWyletili
medianka. biWi avad arc ki gamxdara, radgan mediankebi saSiSi ar aris adamianis jamrTelobis. Tumca SeSfoTebulma mSoblebma gvelTan mebrZoli 1 wlis patara saavadmyofoSi mainc
waiyvanes.
daasaxeles yvelaze mavne sakvebi produqtebi mamakacis janmrTelobisTvis
es sakvebi produqtebi ara mxolod asakovan, aramed axalgazrdul asakSi myof mamakacebsac ki uqmnis janmrTelobis seriozul problemebs. harvardisa da mursias universitetis
profesorebi erTxmad SeTanxmdnen, rom pica, Cipsebi,aromatuli orcxobilebi mamakacis janmrTelobis pirdapiri mteria. mecnierebi irwmunebian, rom arc meti, arc naklebi, am sakvebis
moyvaruli mamakacebi uSvilobis riskis winaSe dganan. es exeba vaJebs 18-dan 22 wlamde. maTi spermis sicocxlisunarianoba gacilebiT dabalia im vaJebTan SedarebiT, romlebic iSviaTad miirTmeven msgavs sakvebs.
meTevze da niangi xalxis Tvalwin erTmaneTs kocnian
es saocari SemTxveva kosta rikaSi moxda. adgilobrivi meTevze jilberto Sedeni metsaxelad Cito pirdapir Sous awyobs xalxis winaSe qalaq sikeirosSi. Cito acxadebs, rom misi da niangis megobroba 20 wlis win daiwyo, roca meTevzem daSavebuli niangi ipova mdinare parisminSi. reptilia sikvdil-sicocxlis zRvarze iyo cecxlsasroli iaraRidan miyenebuli Wrilobebisgan. Citom niangi Tavis ranCoSi miiyvana da mis gamojanmrTelebas Seudga.
niangs poCo daarqva.
`uyuradRebod ar vtovebdi, mis gverdiT meZina, ubralod, mindoda poCos egrZno, rom viRacas uyvars, zrunavs masze da arsebobs cudi da kargi adamianebi~.
naxevari wlis Semdeg meTevzem gamojanmrTelebuli niangi axlomdebare tbaSi gauSva. magram poCo ukan dabrunda, ar isurva Tavisufleba da tbaSi Citos gareSe navardi. mas Semdeg
meTevze da 5-metriani mtacebeli erTad cxovroben. meTevzis sityvebiT, niangi ojaxis SesaniSnavi damcvelia. Cito da poCo xSirad daseirnoben qalaqis quCebSi, erTad dadian tbaze.
ramdenime xnis win meTevzes megobrebma urCies yvelasTvis eCvenebina Citos Tu rogor megobroben niangi da adamiani. tbaze sanaxaoba gamarTes. meTevze da 400kg-iani mtacebeli arxeinad erTobian tbis talRebSi.
`poCo Cemi saukeTeso megobaria, es cota saSiSi ram aris, magram me da niangs araCveulebrivi urTierToba gvaqvs, _ambobs Cito. misi sityvebiT, sakmarisia, meTevzem erTxel Sexedos
TvalebSi niangs da man icis, ra unda gaakeTos, niangs yovelgvari agresiuli instinqtebi maSinve aviwydebao, _ hyveba Cito.
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`qarTuli ocneba~ ekuTvnis yvelas
yvelas, vinc ganicdis saqarTveloSi arsebul mZime politikur da socialur-eko
mikur mdgomareobas, vinc adekvaturad afasebs gamomwvev mizezebs da acnobierebs vi
rebis Semdgomi gauaresebis perspeqtivas, vinc gamosavals xelisuflebis samarTli
demokratiuli arCevnebiT SecvlaSi xedavs.
qarTuli `ocnebis saxelmwifo~ iqneba qveyana, sadac marTvis sistema daefuZneba a
mianis sayovelTaod aRiarebuli uflebebis ganuxrel dacvas.
aRdgeba balansi aRmasrulebel, sakanonmdeblo da sasamarTlo xelisuflebas Sor
rac gamoricxavs Zalauflebis Tavmoyras erTi politikuri Zalis xelSi da avtori
rul mmarTvelobas.
nebismieri sakonstitucio cvlileba an gansakuTrebuli saxelmwifoebrivi mniSv
lobis kanoni miiReba mxolod sazogadoebasTan konsultaciebisa da konsensusis pir
bebSi.
xelisuflebis saqmianobis maqsimaluri gamWirvaleoba rogorc biu
tis, ise erovnuli uSiSroebis politikis gansazRvrisas, uzrunve
yofs xelisuflebis erTaderTi wyaros, saqarTvelos xalxis inte
sebis dacvas.
media gaTavisufldeba saxelmwifo kontrolisagan da Tavad
ceva xelisuflebis kontrolis meqanizmad, rac, Tavis mxriv,
zogadoebas mravalmxrivi, miukerZoebeli informaciis safuZvel
arCevanis saSualebas miscems.
sasamarTlo daculi iqneba nebismieri gare gavlenisgan. marT
msajulebis aRsruleba daefuZneba erTaderT princips _ kano
uzenaesobas.
qveynis gamTlianeba Cveni osi da afxazi Tanamemamuleebis qarT
li saxelmwifosadmi ndobis aRdgeniT daiwyeba. gvwams, rom am prin
pebisadmi sazogadoebis TiToeuli wevris erTguleba, miuxedavad eTni
ri warmomavlobis, religiuri aRmsareblobis da poli
kuri mrwamsisa, `qarTuli ocnebis~ asrulebamde ocne
saqarTvelos. sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocneb
mizania uzrunvelyos sazogadoebis gavlena saqarTvel
politikur, ekonomikur da socialur ganviTarebaze
maqsimalurad Caabas igi Cveni qveynisaTvis mniSvnelov
problemebis gansazRvrasa da ganxilvaSi.
sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocneba~ gamocdil specialistebTan erTad gansazRvravs da maTi daxmarebiT SeimuSavebs konkretul samoqalaqo gegmas samarTlis, adamianis
uflebebis, marTlmsajulebis, ekonomikuri politikis, soflis meurneobis, ekologiis,
jandacvis, socialuri uzrunvelyofis, ganaTlebis, mecnierebis, kulturis, sagareo politikis, konfliqtebis mogvarebis, regionaluri politikis, adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis, erovnuli umciresobebis, usafrTxoebis, axalgazrdobisa da sportis aqtualur
sakiTxebze. sazogadoebriv moZraobasTan arsebuli Tematuri jgufebi Seiswavlian calkeul dargebSi arsebul viTarebas da SeimuSaveben ganviTarebis efeqtian modelebs. jgufebis wevrebi konsultaciebs gamarTaven konkretuli sferoebis eqspertebTan, saerTaSoriso organizaciebisa da diplomatiuri misiebis warmomadgenlebTan.
Camoyalibdeba regionaluri struqturebi, romelTa mTavari mizani iqneba sazogadoebisa da politikuri Zalebis konsolidacia samarTliani saarCevuno garemos Sesaqmnelad,
rac, Tavis mxriv, ganapirobebs saxelmwifo mmarTvelobaSi xalxis ndobiT aRWurvili politikuri Zalebis mosvlas.
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skanvordi
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8. teqsti. 9. koncxi. 10. turfa. 11. tiatia.
12. kontinenti. 13. xokera. 14. nobeli. 15.
muri. 16. kokobi. 17. penelopa. 18. mamba. 19.
baleroni. 20. ialbuzi. 21. piri. 22. Sevro.
23. ladogi. 24. trusi. 25. polo. 26. veSa pi. 27. devi. 28. pediatria. 29. puioli. 30.
cigurebi. 31. dalasi. 32. hiti. 33. badmintoni. 34. urdu. 35. kandelabri. 36. hingisi. 37.
frici. 38. xmiadi. 39. gabelia. 40. blez. 41.
limpopo. 42. luka. 43. faqsi. 44. ramaiana.
45. madli. 46. skoulzi. 47. marika. 48. monako. 49. bodva. 50. uefa. 51. pakmaia. 52. ka pua. 52. nikapi. 54. Siraqi. 55. pravda. 56.
briuseli. 57. sekansi. 58. disertanti. 59.
giboni. 60. frau. 61. kardifi. 62. uil. 63.
kaligula. 64. sipi. 65. kifi. 66. kebi. 67.
kodri. 68. jipiesi. 69. kiara. 70. nifnifi.
71. igrika.
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krosvordi
ivane javaxiSvili:
saqarTvelos sazRvrebi
istoriulad da Tanamedrove TvalsazrisiT ganxiluli
(gagrZeleba iqneba)
7. javaxeT-samcxis umWidroesi
ekonomiuri kavSiri saqarTvelosTan warsulSica da exlac
Tu imisda miuxedavad, rom zemoaRniSnul orTave sabWos wevrebma rusma moxeleebma mefis moadgilis survili icodnen da maT
gagonili hqondaT, rom is am gamoyofas TanaugrZnobda, mainc es
azri erTxmiv uarhyves, cxadia,
javaxeTis CamoSoreba tfilisis
guberniisgan da gumbrTan SeerTeba marTlac srulebiT Seuwynarebeli da naZaladevi gegma yofila.
marTlac-da, sakmarisia, adamianma
axalqalaqis geografiuli pirobebi gaiTvaliswinos, rom misTvis
naTeli gaxdes, ramdenad TviT am
qveynis bunebrivi agebuloba ewinaaRmdegeba mis SeerTebas gumbrTan
(aleqsandropolTan). erevnis guberniisa da gumbris da yarsisagan
javaxeTsa da samcxe-eruSeTs anu
axalqalaqisa da axalcixis mazrebs da yarsis olqis focxovis
ubans maRali, 7-8 Tvis ganmavlobaSi Tovliani da gauvali, jer
berdujis mTebis dasavleTi nawili, Semdeg abocis mTebis, merme
nialisyuris mTis aRmosavleTs nawils. dasasruls, eruSeTis mTis
saxelebiT cnobili uReltexili
hyofs. amgvari orografiuli Tvisebis gamo es mTebi mtkvris Semdinareebis wyalT-gamyofeli qedia
da gzebsac bunebrivi mimarTuleba
swored mtkvris xeobisaken, e.i.
CrdiloeTisaken aqvs da ara samxreTisaken. amitomac aris, rom
ekonomiuradac am kuTxes mxolod
saqarTvelosTan SeeZlo rom hqonoda kavSiri. ase iyo yovelTvis
warsulSic. istorikos papuna orbelianis sityvebi, mag. cxadhyofen, rom me-18 s-Siac, rodesac
mesxeTi axalcixis safaSos saxiT
osmaleTis saxelmwifos ekuTvnoda da saqarTvelos politikurad
CamoSorebuli iyo, maSinac ki
mTel mesxeTs, gansakuTrebiT ki
javaxeTsa da samcxes, saqarTvelosTan hqonda mWidro ekonomikuri damokidebuleba da iqauri sasoflo-sameurneo nawarmi, sanovage, gansakuTrebiT ki puri tfilisSi da gorSi CamohqondaT gasayidad (ix. brosses gamoc. da gorel qedxudebis arza erekle me2-sadmi mirTmeuli).
javaxeTis (axalaqalaqis) samazro komisiis zemomoyvanili
dadgenileba amtkicebs, rom exlac
ekonomiuri damokidebulebis viTareba da mimarTuleba ar Secvlila: kvlavindeburad iqidgan saqoneli tfilisSi Camodis, magram
amaze ufro sayuradRebo is garemoebaa, rom javaxeTsa da samcxes,
anu axalqalaqisa da axalcixis
mazrebs, rogorc rkinis gzis sakomercio ganyofilebis yovelwliuri angariSebiTgana sCans. marto aRmosavleT saqarTvelosTan
ki ara hqonia ekonomiuri kavSiri
(saqoneli marto rkinis gziT ki
ara, iqiTgan pirdapiri, Sara da
saurme gzebiTac modis), aramed
dasavleT saqarTvelosTanac, quTaisis guberniasTanac. ai, mag.
omamdis ramdeni puri da sxva marcvleuloba gamodioda yovelwliv
am kuTxidan dasavleT-aRmosavleT
saqarTveloSi da ramdeni mTels
danarCens amierkavkasiaSi, somxeTSi da azerbaijanSi midioda (yarsSi, erevanSi, qamarulSi, baqoSi
da sxvagan):
s a q a r T v e l o S i :
danarCen amierkavkasiaSi
1910
w.
60557
f.
462 f.
1911 w.
152858 f.
1800 f.
1912 w.
207752 f.
3588 f.
1913 w.
96074 f.
1312 f.
1914 w.
17144
f.
1238 f.
magram marto miwaTmoqmedebis
mxriv ar iyo es kuTxe danarCen
saqarTvelosTan dakavSirebuli.
mesaqonleobisa da mecxvareobis
mTeli meurneoba saqarTveloSi
umWidroesad, SeiZleba iTqvas, ganuyrelad, am kuTxesTan da borCalos mazris sazafxulo saZovrebTan aris dakavSirebuli. ase iyo
Zvelad, maSinac-ki, roca mesxeTi
osmalTa xelSi iyo, asea axlac.
raki saukuneTa ganmavlobaSi adgilobrivi havis pirobebisdagvarad
SemuSavebulma teqnikam uTuo
aucileblobiT daamtkica sazafxulo saZovrebis saWiroeba.
amitom swored aq, TviT bunebis
mier Seqmnils sazafxulo saZovrebze iyrida xolme Tavs saqarT-
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amJamad mTel aRmosavleT
saqarTveloSi
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ol. da ganjis maRl). somexTa mTel mosaxleobas
sul 3561000 Tavi saqoneli hyavs. am maRlobze somxebs didZal 2000000 des.
saukeTeso saZovari aqvT.
ise, rom mTeli balaxi moZovili iyos, maTi saqoneli amisTvis sakmarisi ar
aris da verc SesZlebs,
amitom srulebiT cxadia,
rom somxebs sazafxulo
saZovrebi srulebiT ar
esaWiroebaT.
maSasadame,
maTTvis
borCalos
da
axalqalaqis mazrebi am
mxriv, ekonomikurad arc
gamosadegni arian da arc
saWiro. sul sxva mdgomareobaSia aRmosavleTi saqarTvelo:
uammazrebod
mTeli mesaqonleoba ukidures mdgomareobaSi da gansacdelSi Cavardeboda, saqoneli,
gansakuTrebiT cxvari, daixoceboda.
TviT axalqalaqisa da borCalos mazris mcxovrebTac SedarebiT imdeni saqoneli ara hyavT
(orTaveSi 515772 Tavi iTvleba),
rom marto am saqonelma mTeli am
farTo da Ronieri sazafxulo saZovrebis moWma SesZlos, ag. borCalos mazraSi sazafxulo saZovari 46000 des. iTvleba, aqedan 26
somexTa soflis saijaro sazogadoeba 10000 des.-iT sargeblobs
saqonlis saZovrad, danarCeni
36000 des. ki aRmos. saqarTvelos
sxva mazrebiTgan mosuls mesaqonleebs uWiravT. rogorc warsulSic saukuneTa ganmavlobaSi. exlac aRmosavleT saqarTvelos
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gansakuTrebiT mecxvareebi, iZulebuli iyvnen, sxva saxelmwifoSi
gadasuliyvnen saqonliT da mTeli
zafxuli iq gaetarebinaT (ix.vaxuStis geografia 182).
mesaqonleobis mxriv saqarTveloSi igive pirobebia, rogoric
warsulSi iyo. mTels aRmosavleT
saqarTveloSi: sul 857000 des.
sazafxulo saZovari iTvleba,
aqeTgan saukeTeso saZovrebi qvemo
qarTlSi da javaxeTSi, anu borCalosa da axalqalaqis mazrebSia,
redaqciisagan: ivane javaxiSvilis
wigni `saqarTvelos sazRvrebi~
ibeWdeba ucvleli saxiT.
didZali saqoneli patronebs aq
mohyavT da aZoveben. maSasadame,
srulebiT cxadia, rom, Tumca me19-e s.-Si SemTxveviTi mizezebis
gamo, borCalos da axalqalaqis
mazrebSi somexi ltolvilebi daeSennen da qarTvelTa mosaxleoba
aq mcirericxovania, magram mTels
aRmosavleT saqarTvelos danarCens mosaxleobas am mazrebTan
aramc Tu ekonomiuri kavSiri ar
Seuwyvetia, aramed winandeburad
umWidroesad masTan aris dakavSirebuli.
8. rogor unda SevxedoT somexTa wadils javaxeTis dapatronebisas?
yvela zemonaTqvamis Semdgom
cxadia, Tu rogor SeiZleba Sexedos qarTvelobam somexTa wadils
javaxeTis (axalqalaqis maz.) dasasakuTreblad. erekle mefis piriT saqarTvelos, rasakvirvelia,
ruseTTan amisTvis ar daudvia
1783 w. xelSekruleba, rom mas
Semdgom, rac mesxeTi osmaleTs
CamoerTva, es uxsovari droiTgan
saqarTvelos kuTvnili qveyana,
qarTuli kulturis erTi Zlieri
keraTagani, somxebs gadascemoda.
somexTa am kuTxeSi dasaxlebisaTvis qarTvelobas SeeZlo Semoexedna mxolod viTarca droebiTi
movlenisaTvis: viTarca osmalTa
mier devnili xalxis droebiTi
Semoxizvnisa da TavSefarebisaTvis. ra wams somexTaTvis politikurad xelsayreli pirobebi Seiqmneboda, _ da exla xom swored
aseTi xana dadga, _ es osmaleTiTgan Semoxiznuli somxoba kvlav
Tavis samSoblos, mamapapaTa keras
unda daubrundes. iqiTgan-ki, osmaleTiTgan aq dabrundebian am miwawylis winandeli patronebi. me-19
saukunis ganmavlobaSi osmaleTSi
gadasaxlebuls qarTvels mahmadianebs ara-erTxel undodaT guliT
TavianT samSobloSi dabruneba da
javaxeT-mesxeTSi, mama-papeul miwebze dasaxleba, magram maTi adgili daWerili iyo. exla, raki somxebi TavianT winandel qveyanaSi,
somxeTSi wavlen, maSin samarTlianoba aRdgenili iqmneba da orTave ers Tavisi mama-papeuli kera
daubrundeba.
me-6 Tavi
saqarTvelos samzRvris ukiduresi
samxreT-dasavleTis xazi.
kola-artaani, tao-TorTum-ispiri.
raki exla sakiTxi javaxeTis
(axalqalaqis mazris) Sesaxeb ukve
yovelmxriv
gamorkveuli
gvaqvs, unda saqarTvelos danarCeni monapire kuTxeebis Sesaxeb zogierTi zedmeti cnobebi davurToT.
zeviT ukve aRniSnuli iyo,
rom exlandeli yarsis guberniis
artaanisa da olTisis olqebi,
romlebic Zvelad kolaartaanisa da taos CrdiloeTis nawils udriden,
saukuneTa ganmavlobaSi
qarTvel mosaxleobas da
ers ekuTvnoda. mxolod
me-18 saukuniTgan moyolebuli, artaanisa da
olTisis olqSi TurqTa
200 wlis batonobis da
islamis wyalobiT qarTvel-mahmadianebs qarTuli
ena daviwyebuli aqvT. mosaxleoba aq Txelia da
1889 w. artanis olqSi
65763 suli iyo da aqeTgan mxolod 1923 somexi
iTvleboda. olTisis olqSi mTlad 31519 mcxovrebTa Soris somexi 3130
iyo.
amgvarad, cxadia, rom
artaanisa da olTisis
olqebSi somxebi mosaxleobis umniSvnelo raodenobas Seadgenen. amas
jer kidev SarSan, 1918 w.
TviT somxebic ar uarhyofdnen da a.Sapatniani,
magaliTad, ambobda: aq
`somxebi umniSvnelo umciresobas
Seadgeneno~ da amis gamo amierkavkasiis gadamijvnis dros somxeTis
samzRvrebs gareSe davtovebTo
(tfilisi 1918 gv. 73-74 da 75).
es garemoeba somxebs exla albad
dahviwyebiaT da somxeTis saxelmwifos samzRvrebSi moqceva hsurT
artaanisa da olTisis olqisac,
romelic maT arc istoriulad da
arc somexTa Tanamedrove mosaxleobis raodenobis mxriv ar
ekuTvniT.
xolo osmaleTis samzRvrebSi
darCenils mesxeTis, zemo taos
nawilSi, TorTumis xeobaSi mTeli mcxovrebni 1400 suli mTlad
gamahmadianebuli qarTvelebi arian, magram qarTuli daviwyebuli
aqvT. ixpirSi-ki, parxalis, xevekis, gudaxevis da WirWimis xeobebSi yvelgan qarTveli-mahmadianebi cxovroben da qarTulad laparakoben.
lazistani.
qarTvelTa mosaxleobis ukiduresi samxreT-dasavleTi napiri
Wanebs, anu lazebs uWiravT. ase
iyo warsulSiac. maT kilo megruls axlo udgeba. odesRac lazebis anu Wanebis mosaxleoba
trapizonsac ki scildeboda da
TviT es qalaqi da olqic maT qveyanas ekuTvnoda. jer kidev warsul saukuneSi. mag. 1868 w. lazTa raodenoba inglisis konsulis
v.jiford palheris cnobiT, ramdensame ass aTas aRemateboda.
amJamad lazuri anu Wanuri
mosaxleoba mxolod rizes sanjayiT ganisazRvreba, romelsac lazistanis sanjaysac uwodeben. magram es miwa-wyalic or mTavar nawilad unda gaiyos: rizesa da
aTinas olqad. pirvelSi xalxs
dedaena ukve daviwyebuli aqvs da
Turquli SeuTvisebia, meoreSi-ki
mcxovrebTa dedaena Wanuri anu
lazuria. es aTinas olqi sakuTriv aTinisa da xofas yazaxebisagan Sesdgeba. samxreT-dasavleTiT
misi samzRvari qemeris koncxTan
(qemerburun) iwyeba, Semdeg ahyveba md.yanli-deres, gadasWris aTinas wyalisa da baeiuk-deres saTa-
saerTo gazeTi 31
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walkis raionis qarTveli mosaxleoba
ZiriTadad berZnebis mier mitovebul saxlebSi cxovroben. berZnebi, romlebic Tavis droze saberZneTSi wavidnen brundebian ukan ormagi moqalaqeobis uflebebiT da da qarTvelebs erekebian TavianTi saxlebidan. xelisufleba ki Tavis danapirebs berZnebisagan
saxlebis Sesyidvisa da qarTvelebisTvis gadacemis Sesaxeb ar asrulebs. piriqiT,maT
vinc SesZlo saxlisaTvis saWiro Tanxis Segroveba, aq Cawerisa da damkvidrebis uflebas
ar aZleven. rac Seexeba berZnebs, isini saqarTveloSi brundebian ara sacxovreblad, aramed TavianTi mitovebuli saxlebis gasayidad,an SesanarCuneblad. berZen pensionerebs
aq pensia ugrovdebaT, zafxulobiT Camodian
da erTobian, miwebs qarTvelebs arendiT aZleven, qarTvelebi ki damcirebul yofaSi mudam SiSis qveS arian, ar ician rodis gamoyrian saxlebidan, an miwa sxva vinmes ar miaqiraon ufro Zvirad da Tavad umuSevrad ar
darCnen.
marTalia, berZeni romelmac Tavis droze Tavisi SromiT aago saxli, Tavis safasurs iTxovs da RvTisa da adamianTa kanoniT
Tavisi qonebis sazRauri unda gadauxado, magram aq iqmneba iseTi mZime suraTi, rom eniT,
sagazeTo weriliT misi gadmocema Znelia.
Ddabrunebuli berZnebi, finansurad ukve SeZlebulebi, saqarTvelos antierovnuli politikiT waqezebulebi ar malaven yvelafer
qarTulis mimarT zizRs, qarTvelebs damamcirebelad zemodan dahyureben. magaliTad, sofel saydrionSi, ivlisis TveSi, Cemi iq yofnis periodSi ramdenime qarTvelis ojaxi gamoyrili iqna berZenTa saxlebidan, sadac isini ukve wlebis manZilze cxovrobdnen. mTeli
sofeli Sewuxebuli iyo am faqtiT, ufro
imitom rom maTi umravlesoba igives molodinSi aRmoCnda. Mmag. jumber xozrevaniZem,
romelic quCaSi darCenilTagan erT-erTia miambo. amasTan mivida saberZneTiadn dabrunebuli saxlis patroni da Tavisi Zveli saxlisTvis ararealurad didi fasi moiTxova, romelic meore dRis saRamosaTvis unda gadaexada. xozrevaniZem saWiro Tanxis SegrovebisaTvis dro iTxova, berZeni ar daTanxmda da
policias mimarTa. xozrevaniZem daxmarebisTvis gamgeobas mimarTa, raTa eSuamdgomlaT
berZenTan saWiro Tanxis Sesagroveblad drois micemasTan dakavSirebiT, magram uSedegod.
meore dResve ,berZenis moTxovniT walkis
centridan amosulma policiis razmma jumber
xozrevaniZis ojaxi yovelgvari Tanadgomisa
da imedis gareSe quCaSi gamoyares. berZenma
saxli daketa, miwa sxvas miaqirava da wavida
Tavis evrokavSirSi. jumber xozrevaniZe ki,
vagons, an raime mitovebul droebiT TavSesafars eZebda ojaxisaTvis. msgasi magaliTebi
bevria da masiur xasiaTs Rebulobs. aRniSnuli magaliTi, vfiqrob sakamo argumentebia
imisaTvis, rom ormagi moqalaqeobis masiurad
mikuTvneba ewinaaRmdegeba Cveni qveynis erovnul usafrTxoebas, rameTu ormagi moqalaqeobis micema unda xdebodes mxolod Cveni
qveynis winaSe gansakuTrebuli damsaxurebis
mqone pirovnebebisTvis. im adamianebze ki vinc
araviTar pasuxismgeblobas ar grZnobs Cveni
qveynisa da eris winaSe es dauSvebeli unda
iyos. Aamas mowmobs walkaSi saberZneTidan
dabrunebul berZenTa damokidebuleba qarTvelTa mimarT, baTumSi- Turq moqalaqeTa
TvrametaTasiani Semadgenloba, romelTaTvisac saqarTvelo mxolod bazari da gasarTobi adgili gamxdara.
walkaSi mcxovrebi berZeni an somexi
erovnebis warmomadgeneli, romelic aq saukuneze metia cxovrobs kategoriulad acxadebs
uars qarTulad saubarze (umravlesobazea saubari da ara iSviaT gamonaklis erTeulebze).
isini qarTulad miamrTvisas Riziandebian da
agresiuli gamometyvelebiT iTxoven rusulad laparaks, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi sruliad uyuradRebod rCebi. miuxedavad imisa,
rom ar gicnobs, araviTari pirovnuli wyena
ar gaaCnia, ar gafasebs rogorc qarTvels,
radganac Sen am qveynis istoriuli memkvidre
da patroni xar.
walkis raionSi da saerTod javaxeTSi
Casaxlebul qarTvelebs rogorc viciT udidesi misia akisriaT, qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobisa da erovnuli usafrTxoebis mizniT,
aq, ZirZvel qarTul miwaze qarTuli sulis
asaRorZineblad. miuxedavad amisa maT mimarT
xelisuflebisagan ar arsebobs araviTari Tanadgoma, rogorc Cans mizanmimarTulad, raTa
aq, ar aRorZindes qarTuli erovnuli suli.
sxvadasva formiT aqaur mkvidrTa Seviwroebas kidev emateba isic,rom bankebisagan kreditebis miReba maTTvis SeuZlebelia, is TiTqmis 36%-mdea didi gadasaxadebiT, amasTan
sacxovrebeli saxlis Cadebis sanacvlod,
saxli ki maT umravlesobas gaformebuli ar
aqvs, rac kreditis aRebis Sanss gamoricxavs.
soflis mcxovrebTa gulistkivils iwvevs is faqtic, rom sof. saydrionis bavSvebs sofelSi araviTari gasarTobi ar gaaCniaT, maSin roca uaxloes somxur sofelSi Tanamedrove sportuli moedania mowyobili somexi bavSvebisaTvis. qarTveli bavSvebi am
fonze Zalian damcirebulad gamoyurebian...
walkis raionis deputati saqarTvelos
parlamentSi nacionaluri moZraobidan mixeil cqitiSvili, rogorc aqaurebi amboben, saarCevno kampaniis Seemdeg TvaliT aravis unaxavs.
erTaderTi sakiTxi mosaxleobaSi, rac
xelisuflebis mxridan mkacrad aris ,,mowesrigebuli” es aris Suqis gadasaxadi, principiT: ,,erTi yvelasaTvis, yvela erTisaTvis,”
raSic aseve piradad davrwmundi. sami dRe-Ramis ganmavlobaSi 60 ojaxi daisja da Suqi
ar miewodeboda imis gamo, rom orma ojaxma
davalianeba droze ver dafara.
walkis qarTveli mosaxleoba aramarto
ukmayofilebas gamoTqvamen xelisuflebis mimarT, aramed ufro did gakvirvebas Tu ra
xdeba: ,,Cven, vinc mzad varT Tundac sicocxlis fasad davicvaT Cveni saqarTvelos interesebi, Cveni xelisuflebisagan Tanadgomis
nacvlad, yovelgvar winaaRmdegobas vxedavT.
Cvens winaparTa mier Semoxiznul sxva erovnebis warmomadgenelT, ki visac araviTari pasuxismgebloba ar gaaCniaT qarTuli erovnu-
saydrionSi, sadac berZnuli
droSa ukve frialebs, xval SeiZleba
somxeTis droSac aRmarTon
li interesebisadmi, xels uwyoben Cveni,qarTvelebis Seviwroebasa da damcirebaSigulis tkiviliT aRniSnes CemTan saubarSi
aqaurebma.
mamuka kapanaZe, Tbilisis mkvidri, erTerTi pirvelTagania vinc sofel saydrionSi
2000 wlidan dasaxlda. rogorc is mogviTxrobs, araerTxel mimarTa aqaur berZnebs, Tu
ratom midian isini saqrTvelodan, saqrTvelo
xom maTi samSoblocaa, aq daibadnen da gaizardnen, rom qarTvelTagan aravis ukadrebia
maTTvis cudi ram, darCnen da icxovron qarTvelebTan erTad, rogorc maT samSobloSi.
isini ki aseT mimarTvaze Semdegnairad
Ppasuxoben: walka Cvenma winaprebma rusi generlisagan iyideso. rogorc gavige, isini saqarTvelos ar Tvlian TavianT qveynad, aramed
mxolod walkas miiCneven TavianT sakuTrebad_ aRniSna gulistkiviliT batonma mamukam.
Gmis gulwrfel msjelobaSi da qarTvelTa
tolerantobasTan erTad Cveni erisaTvis damaxasiaTebeli bavSvuri gulubryvilobac davinaxe_ vexvewebiT yvelas, rom ha, es saqrTvelo Senicaa, gqondes, maSinac ki roca is
Sens saxelmwifo enis codnas aucileblobad
ar miiCnvs, sxva TvaliT, zizRiT giyurebs da
amas arc malavs. swored amis Sesaxebaa brZenTa darigeba rom gvafrTxilebs: ,,nu iqnebi Zalian mware, Torem gadagafurTxeben, nurc Zalian tkbili, Torem gadagylapaveno.” _ swored aseT dReSi varT, sabolood gadasaylapavad gamzadebulebi.
walkis raionis qarTveli mosaxleobis
mZime socialuri da nacionaluri urTierTobebis paralelurad, aq arsebuli antierovnuli politikis fonze, vnaxoT Tu ra mdgomareobaa sulierebis mxriv, Mmeufe Ananias eparqiaSi, romelmac dauWira mxari garegin II –is
gegmas.
rogorc ukve vaxseneT didad mniSvnelovani movlenaa walkis raionis erT-erT patara sofelSi ,,aiazma”-Si mimdinare wlis ivlisis dasawyisSi somxeTis patriarqis stumroba. sof. saydrionis mkvidrni amis Sesaxeb
gviamboben: ,,rodesac gavigeT, rom somxur
sofelSi, romelic aqve erT kilometrSi
mdebareobs, somxeTis patriarqTan erTad misi uwmidesoba ilia II_e mobrZandebao, Cveni
soflis mkvidrni ganurCevlad aRmsareblobisa, yvela didi sixaruliT gaveSureT Cvens
sulier mamasTan da somxeTidan Zvirfas stumarTan Sesaxvedrad. samwuxarod, gawbilebulebi davrCiT. iq mxolod somxeTis patriarqi iyo mis Tanmxleb pirebTan erTad, saqarTvelos sapatriarqosagan ki aravin. iyo, mxolod somxuri misalmebebi, aravis gaxsenebia,
rom stumrebTan Sesaxvedrad qarTvelebic viyaviT misulni, amitom Cven, yvelam saswrafod
mivatoveT iqauroba da ukan gamovbrundiT.samwuxaroa is faqti, rom somexTa patriarqi saqarTveloSi somxebiT dasaxlebul sofelSi
ise Camodis, rogorc Tavis qveyanaSi, somxeTis sofelSi, Cvenive qveyanaSi, ki Cven aravis vaxsovarT, arc saero da arc sasuliero
xelmZRvanelebso _ aRniSnes soflis mcxovreblebma...
walkaSi mcxovreb qarTvelTa umravlesoba, rogorc ukve aRvniSneT aWaridan Casaxlebuli islamis mimdevrebi arian. amaTgan
ararerTma muslimanma qarTvelma winaprTa
ZirZvel sarwmunoebas, marTlmadideblur
qristianobas daubrunda. mag. sof. saydrionis
120 ojaxidan 30-mde ojaxi qristianulad
moinaTla. maTi ricxvi walkis raionSi miuxedavad mTeli xelisSemSleli winaaRmdegobebisa, rac vfiqrob miznmimarTulad xorcieldeba, mainc izrdeba. isini aq arsebul eklesiebsa da naeklesiarebSi damoukideblad
cdiloben aRasrulon RvTis msaxureba. sof.
saydrionSi gansakuTrebiT gamoirCeva samebis
eklesia, romelic ivaniSvilis fondis mier
iqna dafinansebuli da aRdgenili. sofeli,
sadac 5 mcire zomis da 2 saSualo zomis eklesiaa, risTvisac, am soflisaTvis TurqeTidan mosul berZnebs ,,iedi qilisa-“,,Svidi eklesia” SeurqmeviaT mRvdeli ar hyavT. aq sapatriarqosagan, manglisisa da walkis eparqiis winamZRolTagan qarTuli qristianuli sulis gansamtkiceblad aravin zrunavs, risTvisac soflis mkvidrni samarTlianad amboben,
rogorc Cans, RmerTmac dagviviwyao.
samebis eklesia, romlis movla-patronobac zaur futkaraZis ojaxma iTava, yoveldRiurad Riaa locvis msurvelTaTvis. Aaq salocavad modis aramarto qristiani mrevli,
aramed iseTebic vinc jer kidev muslimania,
magram rogorc qarTvels didi survili aqvs
qristes mier gzas daadges, maT ocnebad gaxdomiaT soflisaTvis erTi mRvdlis yofna,
romelic kviraSi Tundac erTxel mainc aRavlens wirva-locvas. walkis raioni aramarto
mdidaria mitovebuli, uyuradRebod darCenili eklesia-saydrebiT, aseve mdidaria moqmedi monstrebiT, sadac ber_monazvnebi gandegil cxovrebas ewevian, samwuxarod mrevlis
sulier mdgomareobze aravin zrunavs. mwyemsT
Tavisi cxvari aRar axsovT, aseTi ram normalur qveyanaSi ar xdeba.
samagierod, aqve vxedavT sruliad sawinaaRmdegos. brZenTagan naTqvamia: ,,wminda adgili upatronod ar darCebao.” is vinc qarTuli eklesiis mieraa mitovebuli, maT mimarT yoveldRiur yuradRebas iCens Turqebis
TanadgomiT aq movlenili xojebi, imamebi.
walkis raionul centrSi Seiqmna medrese,
,,yuran kursi,” sadac mozardebs aintereseben
aq Seqmnili pirobebiT. isini uzrunvelyofilni arian biniT, sakvebiT, momavalSi swavlis gagrZelebis perspeqtiviT, ra Tqmaunda
TurqeTisaTvis sasargeblo ideologiiT da
ara qarTuliT. calkeul soflebs aqvs meCeTi, medrese, imami yovelTviuri xelfasiT.
aqaurma ramdenime bavSvma, romlebic samebis eklesiis ezoSi mosuliyvnen, saubrisas
miTxres, rom maT qristianulad undaT monaTvla, magram mSoblebi jer ar SeTanxmebulan.
maSin rodesac mSoblebi sagonebelSi arian,
Tu bavSvi sad gauSvas, medreseSi Tu qristianulad monaTlos, rodesac adamiani aseT
friad mniSvnelovan sakiTxebze jer kidev
yoymanobs, xoja yovelTvis adgilzea da ,,darigebas” aZlevs, mRvdeli ki arsad Cans.
sofel saydrionis mcxovreblebma didi
madlierebiTa da didi gulistkiviliT aRniSnes mamuka kapanaZis Sesaxeb, romelic mTeli
mondomebiT zrunavda aqaur eklesiebSi
RvTimsaxurebis aRsadgenad, rom sofels hyoloda mRvdeli, moZRvari, magram uSedegod.
,,somxeTis patriarqis vizits Cvens mezobel
sofelSi ukve misi wasvlidan sul ori kviris manZilze, umokles droSi pirveli Sedegebic mohyva. A am sofels moevlina somexi
mRvdeli somxur eklesiaSi somxurad wirvalocvis aRsavlenad. Cven ki, Cvenive qveyanaSi
aRaravis vaxsovarT, miuxedavad Cemi mravalgzis Txovnisa. Aam mxriv eparqiis winamZRolTagan veraviTari Tanadgoma ver miviReT”_ aRniSna CemTan saubrisas batonma mamukam.
am erT-erTi da upirvelesi problemiT
dainteresebulma mivmarTe daba walkaSi mdebare RvTismSoblis saxelobis mamaTa monastris winamZRols mama daviTs(daviTaSvils).
didad kmayofili davrCi masTan SexvedriT, rogorc RvTismosav, erovnuli cnobierebis adamianTan. Cems mier dasmul kiTxvaze,
Tu ratom arian Cveni qarTuli soflebi, eklesiebi, mrevli sruliad mitovebulni Cveniv
eklesiis winamZRolTagan, ratom ar hyavT
moZRvari, maSin roca Cvens qveyanaSi sxva saxelmwifoebi ar iSureben Cveni mosaxleobis
sulierebis dasapatroneblad arafers. mama
daviTi gulwrfelad dameTanxma da Tavadac
didi gulistkivili gamoTqva, rom es sakiTxi
didi xania awuxebs. maT monasters sxva monastrebis msgavsad araviTari meurneoba, Semosavali ar gaaCnia. sofelSi mRvdlis samsaxurs ki mciredi Tanadgoma mainc sWirdeba,
trasportis xarji, saarsebo minimumi. Cveni
eparqiisagan ki saamiso Tanadgoma ar gagvaCnia, miuxedavad imisa rom araerTxel dasmula es sakiTxi...
gamomSvidobebisas mama daviTma damloca
da dasZina, rom is am didad mtkivneul, erisaTvis sasicocxlo mniSvnelobis sakiTxs
kvlav dasvams meufis winaSe.
samarTlianobis guliTvis, nebismieri
wesieri adamiani dameTanxmeba imaSi, rom imaze didi mkrexeloba da codva, Rlati sakuTari sarwmuneobisadmi, erisadmi araferia,
roca Seni qristiani mrevli, maT Soris qarTveli muslimanebi, romlebic cxovrebiseuli
qartexilis gamo dRes islamis mimdevarni
gamxdaran, gTxoven, rom meufem misces kurTxeva, mouvlinos moZRvari, aziaros qristinobas. Dda am dros isini sulier winamZRolTagan srul imedgacruebas grZnoben.
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warmomadgenelTaTvis didad wamaqezeblad
moqmedebs da uaryofiT fsiqologiur zegavlenas axdens. Aar aris gamoricxuli, rom sofel saydrionis msgavsad, sadac erTaderTi
mxolod saberZneTis droSa frialebs, xval
walkisa da javaxeTis mezobel somxur soflebSi somxeTis saxelmwifo droSebi afrialdes.
am saSineli magaliTis miuxedavad vfiqrob, rom is oci gamyidveli qarTveli meufe
verafriT sjobia erT meqrTame mRvdelsa da
or ,,cisfers”, romelTac erTi eklesia wabilwes, eseni ki mTeli qarTuli eklesiisa
da eris winaaRmdeg kanons uWeren mxars, rac
kidev ufro mZime danaSaulia, rameTu mrevlis gulwrfeli ndobiT sargebloben da
mxolod sakuTari intersebis sasargeblod,
uzneo cxovrebas ewvian. am yvlaferma ki qveyana ukidures mdgomareobaSi Caagdo, sinodis
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